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Seems odd that Obama called Lurie this week after Vick's outstanding season. Why didn't he call last year when the Eagles signed Vick? And why do I get the feeling this call would never have been made if this were a white player?
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Barry obviously has nothing better to do. I bet he couldn't pick Vick out of a line-up.
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Barry obviously has nothing better to do. I bet he couldn't pick Vick out of a line-up.
Probably right - remember when he could not name a single white sox player despite sayng he was a White Sox fan?
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Seems odd that Obama called Lurie this week after Vick's outstanding season. Why didn't he call last year when the Eagles signed Vick? And why do I get the feeling this call would never have been made if this were a white player?
The main reason for the call was to discuss the clean energy plans at Lincoln Field, and they were only unveiled last a few weeks ago. Besides, waiting until Vick's return was deemed successful before handing out congratulations isn't unusual.
Probably right - remember when he could not name a single white sox player despite sayng he was a White Sox fan?
Lurie said he was impressed with the Prez's knowledge of the game. The Big O might be a big football fan but not really into baseball too much (like myself.)
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His knowledge of the game????...whatever. There is nothing this guy will ever do that I will approve of..nothing, unless he quits. Its Barry's fault on everything for the next 40 years. He sucks worse then anybody could ever suck.
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This president has lost ALL respect in so many's eyes now. How do you seperate the torture, mutilatation and starvation of these innocent animals from the monster who DID IT??? He only stopped, because he was caught red handed---pun intended, and lied and lied and lied again about his murderous acts...
IT has been said that the "measure of a man's character can be seen in how he treats animals and small children--
Vick is nothing but a great ACTOR---and you Mr. President have been DUPED.
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vick's a piece of shit, no doubt about it.
but ray lewis showed up covered in a murder victims blood - he was there when the killing occured - and didn't say a word.
kobe bryant assraped a teenage girl ten years younger and 130 pounds lighter.
one of those miami dolphins pulled a DUI and killed someone last year.
Snoop dog's security shot a man in the back - and he's on Nickelodeon shows this week.
our society is pretty damn forgiving. I personally think vick is a POS... but a whole lotta people shoot and hook animals for food they don't need - I mean, Palin could have ordered a Fish Filet sandwich. She only clubbed a fish because it made for good tv. And we all eat beef and chicken - animals live thru shitty condition to be brained for our lunch.
So we're all some % of Vick in this manner. Palin kills animals for ratings. Ray Lewis killed someone for what, again? We all kill animals for lunch. Vick killed them for sport. He's a POS, but unless you're a vegan who doesn't use bug spray in your home, you kill shit too.
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LMFAO kudos on working palin into the 10 line post there dumb ass
first off ray lewis wasnt convicted of shit, either was bryant...
VICK was convicted and PLEAD guilty of the shitty stuff he did...
not that I care to be honest he served his time and deserves what he earns
whats funny if you ask me is that obama keeps track of this shit, why would he call Vick of all ppl to talk about green energy for the linc? seriously if you think that was the reason youre a moron...
kayne west bashed bush for 2 years yet bush didnt even know who he was a year after he left office...
things that make you go, hmmmm
thats right I worked in a bush comment ;)
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stop blaming bush for everything, tony.
Convicted? LMAO.... Kobe dicked her ass, and held her against will. Period. His jizz dripped right out, dude. It didn't put itself there.
And Lewis? LOL At the very least, he didn't cooperate with police for a murder he witnessed.
And the drunk drivers in sports who KILLED? And the athletes who smack their women up? They keep their jobs.
Vicks a bag of shit - but i shake my head at how fast Kobe is everyone's hero... how all the wifebeating athletes are heroes.... They suck too. When an NFL player put A PERSON in the dirt, and nobody cares... but everyone is screaming because he killed a dog... they should STFU. COmplain about dead people before you bring up dogs.
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stop blaming bush for everything, tony.
Convicted? LMAO.... Kobe dicked her ass, and held her against will. Period. His jizz dripped right out, dude. It didn't put itself there.
And Lewis? LOL At the very least, he didn't cooperate with police for a murder he witnessed.
And the drunk drivers in sports who KILLED? And the athletes who smack their women up? They keep their jobs.
Vicks a bag of shit - but i shake my head at how fast Kobe is everyone's hero... how all the wifebeating athletes are heroes.... They suck too. When an NFL player put A PERSON in the dirt, and nobody cares... but everyone is screaming because he killed a dog... they should STFU. COmplain about dead people before you bring up dogs.
LOL FACT OF THE MATTER IS LEWIS AND BRYANT WERENT CONVICTED OF ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
its very american of you to want to punish someone for something they were cleared of ;) ;D :D
prove that lewis had a hand in the murder and ill convict him of it too, shit you could make millions...
but until the Vick plead guilty and lewis is innocent
back to what really matters though
supposedly obama called this dumb ass to discuss green energy at the linc, really?
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So Obama has enough time to call up the Eagles and thank them for hiring Vick but he doesn't have enough time to get on the phone and tell the president of the terrorist state of Pakistan to pardon Asia Bibi, the Christian Pakistani mother who sits on death row after being charged with blasphemy when she had the audacity to carry water out to her Muslim neighbors working in the field. Pakistan, a country that we ship billions of dollars in money, aid and training to every year.
Good to see Obama has his priorities straight.
I'm sure 240 can spin that for his hero, though.
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really bro..youre really gonna go wit tis one...wow...nice
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LMFAO kudos on working palin into the 10 line post there dumb ass
first off ray lewis wasnt convicted of shit, either was bryant...
VICK was convicted and PLEAD guilty of the shitty stuff he did...
not that I care to be honest he served his time and deserves what he earns
whats funny if you ask me is that obama keeps track of this shit, why would he call Vick of all ppl to talk about green energy for the linc? seriously if you think that was the reason youre a moron...
kayne west bashed bush for 2 years yet bush didnt even know who he was a year after he left office...
things that make you go, hmmmm
thats right I worked in a bush comment ;)
The real question is why did Donte Stallworth serve 60 days for killing someone while DUI?
Why did vince neil get to NOT SERVE A DAY after being DUI and killing a person in his car?
Does anyone hate Motley Crue because of that?
Nooooooooo... But kill a dog and you're an asshole who should be hung by his balls and shot.
While I think it's crazy to mention any certain political figure in this, let's be honest... LOTS of people kill animals that they don't need to eat, but they do it anyway.
Sooooo... why does Vick get such a fucking hard time?
WTF ever.
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While I think it's crazy to mention any certain political figure in this, let's be honest... LOTS of people kill animals that they don't need to eat, but they do it anyway.
Sooooo... why does Vick get such a fucking hard time?
WTF ever.
You don't seem to understand. Vick didn't just kill a couple dogs, he owned and operated a dog fighting ring which is a federal felony.
vick's a piece of shit, no doubt about it.
but ray lewis showed up covered in a murder victims blood - he was there when the killing occured - and didn't say a word.
Ray Lewis is as guilty as OJ. Watching him go on with his life after being involved in stabbing two men to death is really a travesty.
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"Thug Life"
And people sit there and call me racist for pointing out that it is the glorification of the thug ghetto culture and the sports "heros" that are adding to an already bad situation.
Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Star Parker, Thomas Sowell, get mocked while Vick, Lewis, TU Pac, etc get glorified.
Yeah, fucking brilliant culture you got there.
::) ::)
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"Thug Life"
And people sit there and call me racist for pointing out that it is the glorification of the thug ghetto culture and the sports "heros" that are adding to an already bad situation.
Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Star Parker, Thomas Sowell, get mocked while Vick, Lewis, TU Pac, etc get glorified.
Yeah, fucking brilliant culture you got there.
::) ::)
But the people you praised are also part of that culture.. so what is your bottom line statement.. or are you just throwing shit agaist the wall to see if it sticks.. again
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But the people you praised are also part of that culture.. so what is your bottom line statement.. or are you just throwing shit agaist the wall to see if it sticks.. again
Clarence Thomas and Condi are "Thug Culture" - wow - never knew that. ::) ::)
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Clarence Thomas and Condi are "Thug Culture" - wow - never knew that. ::) ::)
i didnt say they are Thug culture..neither did you
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The real question is why did Donte Stallworth serve 60 days for killing someone while DUI?
Why did vince neil get to NOT SERVE A DAY after being DUI and killing a person in his car?
Does anyone hate Motley Crue because of that?
Nooooooooo... But kill a dog and you're an asshole who should be hung by his balls and shot.
While I think it's crazy to mention any certain political figure in this, let's be honest... LOTS of people kill animals that they don't need to eat, but they do it anyway.
Sooooo... why does Vick get such a fucking hard time?
WTF ever.
I agree with you on stallworth
I think vick gets alot of shit b/c what he did took alot of fore thought and he did some cold blooded shit bro
dogs especially with their owners really want nothing more than to be loved vick not only killed dogs he drowned them, electricuted them, body slammed them...
thats some serious sociopathic shit right there, it shows a very distinct disconnect between his view of right and wrong and our cultures so i think that plays a big role in him getting more shit.
Like I said i think he deserves another chance, he served his time and should not be held back from a football career.
but that doesnt mean the horrible shit he did should be forgotten, I dont think he should ever be allowed to own a dog again.
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The real question is why did Donte Stallworth serve 60 days for killing someone while DUI?
Why did vince neil get to NOT SERVE A DAY after being DUI and killing a person in his car?
Does anyone hate Motley Crue because of that?
Nooooooooo... But kill a dog and you're an asshole who should be hung by his balls and shot.
While I think it's crazy to mention any certain political figure in this, let's be honest... LOTS of people kill animals that they don't need to eat, but they do it anyway.
Sooooo... why does Vick get such a fucking hard time?
WTF ever.
I think Stallworth only served 30 days? And he reportedly was drunk AND high.
I think Vick should be left alone. He committed a crime. Received probably harshest punishment in American history for animal cruelty. He appears to have gotten his act together. Good for him.
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But the people you praised are also part of that culture.. so what is your bottom line statement.. or are you just throwing shit agaist the wall to see if it sticks.. again
I'll answer for him. Any black today that attempts to succeed by studying or has conservative values is ostracized by the majority of his (or her) fellow blacks. Terms such as house nig..r, Uncle Tom and sellout are used to describe blacks that choose to succeed through hard work and studying. Instead, the majority hold thugs, gangsta rappers and dope dealers in higher esteem than a man like Colin Powell. When an intelligent entertainer like Bill Cosby points out some of the pathologies in the black community, he is castigated by a multitude of blacks. Get it now?
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I'll answer for him. Any black today that attempts to succeed by studying or has conservative values is ostracized by the majority of his (or her) fellow blacks. Terms such as house nig..r, Uncle Tom and sellout are used to describe blacks that choose to succeed through hard work and studying. Instead, the majority hold thugs, gangsta rappers and dope dealers in higher esteem than a man like Colin Powell. When an intelligent entertainer like Bill Cosby points out some of the pathologies in the black community, he is castigated by a multitude of blacks. Get it now?
But how do you quantify the backlash, how do you know how many people agree and disagree with Bill. Because it might be an article that disagrees or media whore Jessie Jackson will say something and folks think he is the voice of all blacks.. and it is to the contrary. So to say "Bill Cosby is XYZ and blacks dont like him for it" is like a blanket statement that dosent really represent the totality of the situation.
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But how do you quantify the backlash, how do you know how many people agree and disagree with Bill. Because it might be an article that disagrees or media whore Jessie Jackson will say something and folks think he is the voice of all blacks.. and it is to the contrary. So to say "Bill Cosby is XYZ and blacks dont like him for it" is like a blanket statement that dosent really represent the totality of the situation.
It was not just Jesse who attacked cobsy for speaking the truth, there were many others.
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I think Stallworth only served 30 days? And he reportedly was drunk AND high.
I think Vick should be left alone. He committed a crime. Received probably harshest punishment in American history for animal cruelty. He appears to have gotten his act together. Good for him.
Great points here. Stallworth should have been banned FOR LIFE for putting another living human being in the dirt.
Vick lost more than $100 million and went bankrupt, and the whole country hated him. You can't name many people killers that got shit that bad.
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Great points here. Stallworth should have been banned FOR LIFE for putting another living human being in the dirt.
Vick lost more than $100 million and went bankrupt, and the whole country hated him. You can't name many people killers that got shit that bad.
OJ actually got cheered.
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im not defending stallworth or condeming vick but what stallworth did was idiotic and he should be punished more so than he has been however it wasnt intentional
what vick did was intentional and he not only did it once but multiple times and in multiple ways.
stallworth should have got more and vick should have got less no doubt but as far as public opinion of their crimes go, vick showed forethought and still killed
I bet if you asked stallworth if he had thought about killing someone before driving would he have, he would say no
vick would say hell yea i thought about killing those dogs before i did it, and he still did it
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im not defending stallworth or condeming vick but what stallworth did was idiotic and he should be punished more so than he has been however it wasnt intentional
what vick did was intentional and he not only did it once but multiple times and in multiple ways.
stallworth should have got more and vick should have got less no doubt but as far as public opinion of their crimes go, vick showed forethought and still killed
I bet if you asked stallworth if he had thought about killing someone before driving would he have, he would say no
vick would say hell yea i thought about killing those dogs before i did it, and he still did it
I don't think running over a pedestrian while getting drunk and high is unintentional. He knew he was putting people's lives in danger. Everyone with a driver's license knows what drugs and alcohol does to your driving ability.
Plus he killed a person, and people > than animals.
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So Obama has enough time to call up the Eagles and thank them for hiring Vick but he doesn't have enough time to get on the phone and tell the president of the terrorist state of Pakistan to pardon Asia Bibi, the Christian Pakistani mother who sits on death row after being charged with blasphemy when she had the audacity to carry water out to her Muslim neighbors working in the field. Pakistan, a country that we ship billions of dollars in money, aid and training to every year.
Good to see Obama has his priorities straight.
I'm sure 240 can spin that for his hero, though.
Michael Vick's success > the life of a mother.
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I don't think running over a pedestrian while getting drunk and high is unintentional. He knew he was putting people's lives in danger. Everyone with a driver's license knows what drugs and alcohol does to your driving ability.
Plus he killed a person, and people > than animals.
I agree with you but he didnt see the person and say im going to run this guy down...
vick saw the dogs he killed, knew what he was doing and did it with intent
I totally agree with you on ppl and animals, my point was to give a possible reason why some may be able to forgive stallworth while holding a grudge against vick.
you have to be a cold blooded son of a bitch to kill a dog that isnt trying to hurt you, no imagine that the dog is your dog who loves you, who wants nothing more than to please its owner...imagine that owner drowning the dog, electricuting him, body slamming him repeatedly
thats some sick ass shit bro
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Michael Vick's success > the life of a mother.
BF - he is too busy wolfing down deserts.
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BF - he is too busy wolfing down deserts.
I bet he'd be on the horn within 30 seconds of a Christian court condemning a Muslim mother to death for "blasphemy". ;)
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It was not just Jesse who attacked cobsy for speaking the truth, there were many others.
Just as many agreed with Bill.
That's why the Black community is so divided... Is there a group that just wants a handout? Sure.
But there's a large group that also wants to be rewarded equally for hard work.
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Just as many agreed with Bill.
That's why the Black community is so divided... Is there a group that just wants a handout? Sure.
But there's a large group that also wants to be rewarded equally for hard work.
The fact that anyone attacked him speaks volumes.
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The fact that anyone attacked him speaks volumes.
It speaks volumes about those people... yes.
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I agree with you but he didnt see the person and say im going to run this guy down...
vick saw the dogs he killed, knew what he was doing and did it with intent
I totally agree with you on ppl and animals, my point was to give a possible reason why some may be able to forgive stallworth while holding a grudge against vick.
you have to be a cold blooded son of a bitch to kill a dog that isnt trying to hurt you, no imagine that the dog is your dog who loves you, who wants nothing more than to please its owner...imagine that owner drowning the dog, electricuting him, body slamming him repeatedly
thats some sick ass shit bro
I agree about Vick. What he did was terrible. But I don't think he should never be forgiven.
I had a long discussion with Earl (?) about Stallworth on the Sports board. Reckless behavior is not accidental behavior. Big difference between not seeing someone crossing a street and running them over (accident) and not seeing someone because you were drunk and high (not an accident). That's why one is a crime and one isn't.
Keep in mind a car is essentially a weapon.
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I agree about Vick. What he did was terrible. But I don't think he should never be forgiven.
I had a long discussion with Earl (?) about Stallworth on the Sports board. Reckless behavior is not accidental behavior. Big difference between not seeing someone crossing a street and running them over (accident) and not seeing someone because you were drunk and high (not an accident). That's why one is a crime and one isn't.
Keep in mind a car is essentially a weapon.
I agree but again you dont make the conscious decision to kill that person, which is why there is manslaughter and muder charges
I see what youre saying that when you get behind the wheel of a car you made the decision to drive and whatever happens after that you assume responsibility for but there is still a difference between intentionally taking a life and doing so unintentionally by making a bad decision.
humans are more important than animals so i agree stallworth should have done a couple years in jail
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I agree but again you dont make the conscious decision to kill that person, which is why there is manslaughter and muder charges
I see what youre saying that when you get behind the wheel of a car you made the decision to drive and whatever happens after that you assume responsibility for but there is still a difference between intentionally taking a life and doing so unintentionally by making a bad decision.
humans are more important than animals so i agree stallworth should have done a couple years in jail
No, you make a conscious decision to drive while intoxicated though... That's a choice.
If you shoot someone with a gun because you've been drinking, you're still convicted of manslaughter, even if it's an accident.
If you rob someone while intoxicated, your use of alcohol does not give you a pass.
You are aware of the actions you're taking prior, and if those actions cause you to spiral into worse actions, then you are still responsible.
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No, you make a conscious decision to drive while intoxicated though... That's a choice.
If you shoot someone with a gun because you've been drinking, you're still convicted of manslaughter, even if it's an accident.
If you rob someone while intoxicated, your use of alcohol does not give you a pass.
You are aware of the actions you're taking prior, and if those actions cause you to spiral into worse actions, then you are still responsible.
I agree with this.
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It was not just Jesse who attacked cobsy for speaking the truth, there were many others.
But how do you quantify it accuratley enough to say "this" represents the majority of this group of people..
Further more can you name the "many others" that attacked Bill Cosby?
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But how do you quantify it accuratley enough to say "this" represents the majority of this group of people..
Further more can you name the "many others" that attacked Bill Cosby?
Please - stop playing games - we all know there were many commentators and pundits attacking him. Ill dig out some examples later.
Cosby told the truth and those with their head in the sand are are the ones looking foolish. No wonder "the community" is so fucked up when people can't even speak the truth without being attacked.
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Please - stop playing games - we all know there were many commentators and pundits attacking him. Ill dig out some examples later.
Cosby told the truth and those with their head in the sand are are the ones looking foolish. No wonder "the community" is so fucked up when people can't even speak the truth without being attacked.
In all honesty... I never heard and pundits attack him.
Just Jesse... Maybe some asshat from the NAACP, but that's it.
I personally knew many many many more people who agreed with Bill.
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No, you make a conscious decision to drive while intoxicated though... That's a choice.
If you shoot someone with a gun because you've been drinking, you're still convicted of manslaughter, even if it's an accident.
If you rob someone while intoxicated, your use of alcohol does not give you a pass.
You are aware of the actions you're taking prior, and if those actions cause you to spiral into worse actions, then you are still responsible.
if you shot someone you made the conscious choice to shoot someone
if you rob someone you made the conscious choice to rob them
stallworth did not make the conscious choice to kill that man
I agree with your statement, my point is in regards to INTENT, stallworth did not intend to kill that man
VICK very much so intended to kill a dog and did it multiple times
Intent is the difference, did stallworth get behind the wheel with the sole purpose of finding someone to run over? NOOOOO
did vick hold a dog under water, electricute them, body slam them repeatedly with the sole intent of killing those dogs, YESSSSSSSSSSS
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if you shot someone you made the conscious choice to shoot someone
if you rob someone you made the conscious choice to rob them
stallworth did not make the conscious choice to kill that man
I agree with your statement, my point is in regards to INTENT, stallworth did not intend to kill that man
VICK very much so intended to kill a dog and did it multiple times
Intent is the difference, did stallworth get behind the wheel with the sole purpose of finding someone to run over? NOOOOO
did vick hold a dog under water, electricute them, body slam them repeatedly with the sole intent of killing those dogs, YESSSSSSSSSSS
Your intent is to not care about other people while you're behind the wheel.
There is no difference... You either care or you don't... Stallworth didn't care about the well-being of people, Vick didn't care about the well-being of dogs.
I find your concept highly simplistic and you have to take it to it's base component of "caring about an external entity".
That's just my opinion of course.
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Your intent is to not care about other people while you're behind the wheel.
There is no difference... You either care or you don't... Stallworth didn't care about the well-being of people, Vick didn't care about the well-being of dogs.
I find your concept highly simplistic and you have to take it to it's base component of "caring about an external entity".
That's just my opinion of course.
lol if that was the case he would have been charged with murder not manslaughter sorry holmes the law disagrees with you, intent in the action of killing someone is very much a big deal
i understand what youre saying but sorry no stallworth did not intend to kill that man he intended to drive but he didnt look for a guy to run down...
vick looked for a dog to kill and found them multiple times
this is like saying that by speeding you dont care and if you get in an accident you intended to kill someone ::)
sorry not the case broham
intent in the action of killing is the difference
stallworth no intent to kill
vick intent to kill
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lol if that was the case he would have been charged with murder not manslaughter sorry holmes the law disagrees with you, intent in the action of killing someone is very much a big deal
i understand what youre saying but sorry no stallworth did not intend to kill that man he intended to drive but he didnt look for a guy to run down...
vick looked for a dog to kill and found them multiple times
this is like saying that by speeding you dont care and if you get in an accident you intended to kill someone ::)
sorry not the case broham
intent in the action of killing is the difference
stallworth no intent to kill
vick intent to kill
That's not even what he was guilty of man... You have no idea.
Vick pleaded guilty to one count of "conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture" in a plea agreement filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond.
Absolutely nothing to do with killing a dog.
So he got 2 years for interstate commerce and sponsorship and Stallworth got 30 days for accidentally killing a person.
Yeah man... That still makes sense.
You either care about others or you don't.
Neither did.
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That's not even what he was guilty of man... You have no idea.
Vick pleaded guilty to one count of "conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture" in a plea agreement filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond.
Absolutely nothing to do with killing a dog.
So he got 2 years for interstate commerce and sponsorship and Stallworth got 30 days for accidentally killing a person.
Yeah man... That still makes sense.
You either care about others or you don't.
Neither did.
Vick took a plea bargin to avoid a whole laundry list of other charges...
I agree with you about not caring but again intent is crucial in both law and public opinion...
stallworths is viewed as an accident, a VERY PREVENTABLE accident
vicks is viewed as an INTENTIONAL ACTION
again im not defending stallworth or condemning vick to me they are both pieces of shit, but stallworth didnt intend to kill that man, vick very much so intended to kill those dogs
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Vick took a plea bargin to avoid a whole laundry list of other charges...
I agree with you about not caring but again intent is crucial in both law and public opinion...
stallworths is viewed as an accident, a VERY PREVENTABLE accident
vicks is viewed as an INTENTIONAL ACTION
again im not defending stallworth or condemning vick to me they are both pieces of shit, but stallworth didnt intend to kill that man, vick very much so intended to kill those dogs
So then dog life > human life either way?
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So then dog life > human life either way?
to me no sir AS IVE ALREADY SAID, to most no sir
but to some without a doubt
i agreed that stallworth should have got more time and vick less...the thing here is public opinion
stallworth while extremely heinous was an accident
vick to be honest is only slightly less heinous b/c he did it multiple time in multiple different way and he did it intentionally
i think that is the heart of why ppl have overlooked stallworth and continue to focus on vick
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Please - stop playing games - we all know there were many commentators and pundits attacking him. Ill dig out some examples later.
Cosby told the truth and those with their head in the sand are are the ones looking foolish. No wonder "the community" is so fucked up when people can't even speak the truth without being attacked.
Alright chief.. couple of things..
One...if there are many commentators attacking him.. its very easy to post a few.. of you cant.. shut the fuck up.. if you cant site many articles or writings condemning his statements.. shut the fuck up.
And i asked how do you quantify the feeling in enough usable data to say "overwhelmingly, this group of people feels this way about a certian topic" you cant..and you are so dumb you let the statements of one guy represent the whole...an that good enough for you.. thats hy you=Faux news.. you are all soundbite and emotion...
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Just type into google: "bill cosby is wrong" and see what you get. Tons of leftists ad apologists attacking him.
Its a disgrace that anyone from the so called "community" is attacking him. Disgraceful. And you wonder why most people dont give a rats ass anymore? People are sick of the excuses, sick of the rationalization of horrible behavior, sick of the wasted money, etc.
At a certain point, people just don't care anymore. If the so called "community" is intent on destroying itself and refusing to see the error of its ways, fuck em.
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Just type into google: "bill cosby is wrong" and see what you get. Tons of leftists ad apologists attacking him.
Its a disgrace that anyone from the so called "community" is attacking him. Disgraceful. And you wonder why most people dont give a rats ass anymore? People are sick of the excuses, sick of the rationalization of horrible behavior, sick of the wasted money, etc.
At a certain point, people just don't care anymore. If the so called "community" is intent on destroying itself and refusing to see the error of its ways, fuck em.
Thats why me.. Malcolm the beast that i am.. take action and dont whine on the sidelines.. i do.. some talk.. some bitch.. some whine.. i do.. becasuse im a do'er.. just how i was hardwired.. youtube that
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Just type into google: "bill cosby is wrong" and see what you get. Tons of leftists ad apologists attacking him.
Its a disgrace that anyone from the so called "community" is attacking him. Disgraceful. And you wonder why most people dont give a rats ass anymore? People are sick of the excuses, sick of the rationalization of horrible behavior, sick of the wasted money, etc.
At a certain point, people just don't care anymore. If the so called "community" is intent on destroying itself and refusing to see the error of its ways, fuck em.
and still if you were in the so called community, you would see that many agree with him.. just type in bill cosby is right.. so its kind of a moot point right. ..fuckin idiot
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Fair enough - but that is rarely what you see in public.
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Fair enough - but that is rarely what you see in public.
"Fair enough" ok
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"Fair enough" ok
I'm just going by my memory of when he was speaking out.
Actually - i remeber obama catching shit too when he complained about the unwed pregnancy situation.
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Mr. President, You're Wrong on Michael Vick
www.huffingtonpost.com
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Mo'Kelly supports his president and is a diehard Democrat...but let's be clear; Mr. President, you're wrong on Michael Vick.
"NBC's Peter King reports that Barack Obama called Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie earlier this week to congratulate him for giving Vick a second chance after his release from prison. According to King, the president said that released prisoners rarely receive a level playing field and that Vick's story could begin to change that."
Story HERE.
Mr. President...no it didn't and no it won't.
If President Obama wanted to praise the Eagles for giving Vick a second chance, the phone call would have been more appropriate when they originally signed him, not many months later amid great success. It begs the question whether the phone call would have ever come if Vick weren't balling and had failed miserably.
It would seem the phone call was inextricably linked to Vick's success, not the moral conscience of the Philadelphia Eagles organization.
Moreover, the call wrongly attributes altruistic motives to the Philadelphia Eagles, suggesting the organization wanted to affect the perception of convicted felons more than they wanted to pad their bottom line or win a Super Bowl.
Mo'Kelly's not buying that or any supposed beachfront property in Nebraska either.
Just FYI, there are dozens of convicted felons in the NFL and none is on any roster as a social rehabilitation experiment or statement on the viability of ex-cons as productive citizens.
See HERE.
Each and every one, (Vick included) is on an NFL roster because he gives his team the best chance to succeed...period.
Michael Vick on an NFL roster was never a case of charity. He may be a lightning rod for controversy amongst PETA members and dog-lovers worldwide, but he's still a world-class athlete and only originally asked to back up former starters Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb. (Translation: minimal investment by the Eagles which later generated tremendous returns.)
Other questions it prompts...
Does the Trojan corporation get a phone call from President Obama if it gives Tiger Woods "a second chance" with an exclusive multimillion-dollar condom endorsement deal? Would Trojan then be about the business of changing the perception of/leveling the playing field for philandering professional athletes? Imagine the campaign slogan...
"Unleash the Tiger in your pants! Got Wood?"
Mo'Kelly is just spitballing here...
Does President Obama call (x) team if/when former NFL receiver Rae Carruth gets out of jail for conspiring to kill his girlfriend and unborn child and is hired as a stadium peanut vendor in 2018 (his expected release date)?
Did the NBA's Washington Wizards earn a smiley face magnet for the staff refrigerator in allowing Gilbert Arenas back into the locker room after bringing his cache of guns to work? Because we all know that the Washington Wizards (formerly the Washington Bullets) are all about "leveling the playing field" for idiots and the guns they bring to the workplace.
OSHA would be proud to be sure.
Or not...
Professional sports is a meritocracy, not a charitable organization about the business of garnering presidential voicemails. If Michael Vick were to unfortunately suffer a career-ending injury in his next game; he would be cut, his career disappear and his non-guaranteed contract money right along with it.
President Obama's phone call (and subsequent spotlight) would have been better served highlighting individuals and entities truly about the business of helping everyday African-American men reintegrate themselves into society after prison; not offering more inappropriate idolatry of athletes.
Michael Vick is an exceptionally talented football player who presently has value to the Philadelphia Eagles; no more, no less. The Philadelphia Eagles franchise is about the business of winning football games and maximizing revenue. The franchise took Vick on a flyer and it panned out.
Bully for them.
Let's not rewrite history and attribute altruistic motives where they do not belong or exist.
Praise Michael Vick for his football prowess. Applaud the Philadelphia Eagles for the shrewd construction of its present team. But never should any president be heaping praises of morality on an organization for simply attempting to sell more tickets, win more games and ultimately make more money. Eventually, President Obama will concern himself with the issues most important to African-Americans, as in the multitude. It just won't be today as this clearly is not one of them.
No, you can be sure Mo'Kelly won't be receiving a cabinet-level appointment or the Presidential Medal of Freedom from this administration; but that's ok. It's about telling the truth.
The truth is that this was a poor choice by our president, yet one consistent with his support of Wall Street and big business.
Congratulating the Philadelphia Eagles for doing "the capitalism thing" under the pretense of it being "the right thing" is wrong and the wrong message to send young African-American males.
Somebody has to say it...might as well be Mo'Kelly.
"Mr. President, you are wrong on Michael Vick."
Morris W. O'Kelly (Mo'Kelly) is author of the syndicated entertainment and socio-political column The Mo'Kelly Report. For more Mo'Kelly, go to his site. Mo'Kelly can be reached at mrmokelly@gmail.com and he welcomes all commentary.
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Obama: "I can do the right thing and ask the President of a country that we ship billions of dollars to every year to pardon a Christian mother who was sentenced to death for bringing water out to her Muslim neighbors in the field. I can condemn the bombings carried out by Muslims targeting Christians in the last week seeing as I was quick to condemn a Muslim bombing Muslims in Pakistan. Or I can call up the Eagles and applaud them hiring a convicted felon for pennies of his true value. Derp, I wonder what I should go with?"
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People are gonna bitch about EVERYTHING.
If obama said in an interview that vick was a POS who belonged out of the league, you'd have people bitching about how he's trying to impede the ability of a man who paid his debt to society to earn a living.
Obama likes sports, and vick is an electrifying player. He did some call about energy with a billionaire to improve the environment, and at the end of the call, mentioned it was nice to see the guy play again.
And people who didn't write editorials about Bush trivialized 4400 dead american soldiers by looking for WMD in couch cushions suddenly have to write about how mad they are that Obama is happy an ex-convict found work. Blah.
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Please - stop playing games - we all know there were many commentators and pundits attacking him. Ill dig out some examples later.
Cosby told the truth and those with their head in the sand are are the ones looking foolish. No wonder "the community" is so fucked up when people can't even speak the truth without being attacked.
There actually weren't a lot of pundits or credits who criticized him. When he made his initial comments, it got huge media coverage, but there were virtually no prominent blacks who came out against him. Even the highly pointed phrase you suggested- "bill cosby is wrong"- only lead to a small handful of articles reposted on several different links. Of those, one of the authors actually said he agreed with a large part of what Cosby said and the second provided a pretty compelling statistical argument of why Cosby was incorrect.(And there is no debate that Cosby was being almost entirely anecdotal in his comments.)
Cosby made some good points. Not all of them were good or accurate, and virtually all of the opposition he received was because of that.
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Tucker Carlson addresses Vick role
Associated Press
Fox analyst Tucker Carlson says Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick "should have been executed" for his role in a dogfighting ring.
Carlson was guest hosting for Sean Hannity's show Tuesday night on Fox News Channel when he made the remarks. He led a panel discussion about President Barack Obama commending the owner of the Eagles for giving Vick a second chance after his release from prison.
Vick served 18 months in federal prison for running a dogfighting ring.
Carlson says, "Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did [it] in a heartless and cruel way."
Carlson added, "I think personally he should have been executed for that."
Carlson, a conservative commentator, is angry that Obama told Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie he believes people who have paid for their crimes should have the opportunity to contribute to society again.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5967015
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Tucker Carlson addresses Vick role
Carlson, a conservative commentator, is angry that Obama told Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie he believes people who have paid for their crimes should have the opportunity to contribute to society again.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5967015
So basically Carlson is saying he dosent agree with the US legal system huh
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So basically Carlson is saying he dosent agree with the US legal system huh
i think what he is saying is that he didnt agree with the punishment...
quit reaching malcom
and yes he is a retard ::)
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tucker sounds like quite the sniveling little b. no doubt about it.