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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on December 31, 2010, 02:45:05 PM
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hey gh15, this recent post interested me
what exactly are you talking about here? i know that you also believe in the importance of eating junk food, both when bulking and when cutting. you also believe in high protein. are you talking about too many meals, too often? but never any calorie dense meals(junk) so the body never feels "fed"? o?
im talking about the fact that you see bodybuilder walking around 260 6-7% on a regular basis and you see the bodybuilder eat his tuna and rice,, his beef and rice and his chiken and rice,,nothign complicated,,yet surprise surprize he maintain 260 6-7% and preping fro competition ,,he actually maintain all muscle and even gain muscle whiel dropping bodyfat down to 4 % ,,he sit there and doesnt eat all you can eat buffer,,yet he is large ,,his muscle is big,,and his skin is paper thin,,how come?
because hormones are the DETERMINE FACTOR for how large and how lean one will be,,hgh in particular,,infact when you take hgh off the blood you can feel weekly how the fat start climbing or you start shrinking or both ,,you feel it weekly little by little,,yes you have a window of 6 months to grow after gh usage but you would look 2 times better if the gh was there all the way along with the steroid,,
the all idea of over eating create disasters liek trey bower,,you need to know when to eat a lot and how much to eat when you eat a lot and you ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ON GH INORDER TO DO IT ,,go back to the 60s they never ate much,,they ate as much as they needed to maintain pecific lean muscle which was not very high caloric intake,,sergio used to eat 3 times a day and thats it ,,he was the biggest bodybuilder back then and he used to eat as much as he needed nto over feed himself,,
i will talk about it in detail coming new year
gh15 approved
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gh15,
give us the OPTIMAL arms routine!!!!
isolation on everything
there is no best arm routine,,there is what best for you,,if one has formarms the length of your legs he need diff exercise for bicep than you ,,well he dont need it but he will develop better from pecific exercise that for you wont work that well if your forarm is the length of a t-rex,,
you get the idea here,,
gh15 approved
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GH15, I used a high dose hgh blast for a few days and I couldn't even open a door or hold a fork 2 days ago
how the fuck do you guys tolerate the high doses :o
I couldn't even train chest properly, I had to do an all machine workout because I couldn't grip the bar
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im talking about the fact that you see bodybuilder walking around 260 6-7% on a regular basis and you see the bodybuilder eat his tuna and rice,, his beef and rice and his chiken and rice,,nothign complicated,,yet surprise surprize he maintain 260 6-7% and preping fro competition ,,he actually maintain all muscle and even gain muscle whiel dropping bodyfat down to 4 % ,,he sit there and doesnt eat all you can eat buffer,,yet he is large ,,his muscle is big,,and his skin is paper thin,,how come?
because hormones are the DETERMINE FACTOR for how large and how lean one will be,,hgh in particular,,infact when you take hgh off the blood you can feel weekly how the fat start climbing or you start shrinking or both ,,you feel it weekly little by little,,yes you have a window of 6 months to grow after gh usage but you would look 2 times better if the gh was there all the way along with the steroid,,
the all idea of over eating create disasters liek trey bower,,you need to know when to eat a lot and how much to eat when you eat a lot and you ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ON GH INORDER TO DO IT ,,go back to the 60s they never ate much,,they ate as much as they needed to maintain pecific lean muscle which was not very high caloric intake,,sergio used to eat 3 times a day and thats it ,,he was the biggest bodybuilder back then and he used to eat as much as he needed nto over feed himself,,
i will talk about it in detail coming new year
gh15 approved
cool answer. looking forward to your posts
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So before you said "you need to eat your mommmy and daddy in order to ever be called huge", and now you say bodybuilders overeat. How much is a bodybuilder supposed to eat then?
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So before you said "you need to eat your mommmy and daddy in order to ever be called huge", and now you say bodybuilders overeat. How much is a bodybuilder supposed to eat then?
depends on how much hgh he is on.... but if youre on no gh you dont need to eat as much as fella on gh ,,and if on low dose gh you dont need to eat as much as fella on higher doses of gh,, etc
you sure need to eat mommy and daddy when on 15iu of gh a day but again liek in anything else you do in life,,it depends wether preping or not,,offseason is offseaon it is when you want to stay 7-8% maybe little higher and get food in as much as you can with lots of gh ,,ofcourse you DO NOT WANT TO BE 15% thats when you dont look like bodybuilder..see trey brower when fat,,but when come prep you do not need to eat much ,,the purpose is to nto eat as much and make every calorie count and used more efficiently and effecively by the anabolics gh and other drugs you are on
gh15 approved
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GH15, I used a high dose hgh blast for a few days and I couldn't even open a door or hold a fork 2 days ago
how the fuck do you guys tolerate the high doses :o
I couldn't even train chest properly, I had to do an all machine workout because I couldn't grip the bar
numb hands?
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isolation on everything
there is no best arm routine,,there is what best for you,,if one has formarms the length of your legs he need diff exercise for bicep than you ,,well he dont need it but he will develop better from pecific exercise that for you wont work that well if your forarm is the length of a t-rex,,
you get the idea here,,
gh15 approved
God,
what about cable work for arms?
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GH15, I used a high dose hgh blast for a few days and I couldn't even open a door or hold a fork 2 days ago
how the fuck do you guys tolerate the high doses :o
I couldn't even train chest properly, I had to do an all machine workout because I couldn't grip the bar
i kept tellin you fellas to inject 3 iu every inject not more,,dont go inject 10 iu at once or even 5 iu at once,,remember the china gh i apprve here is LEGIT GH,,so yes you inject blue top or whatever top but it is real gh it will bloat the shit out of you if taken too high of dose on the first month,,be careful with it ,,remember its generics but its stil gh,,water subside startgin day 20-30
3 iu every inject spaced right,,and you need to get used to the bloat for sometime eventhough it shoudnt be bad when inject 2-3 iu in devided doses ,,american gh at 5 iu at once will bloat the shit out of you too,,its 3 where sweet spot is,,and it is 5 inject a day spaced right,,for most of you who take 5-10 iu 3 times a day 3 iu each time or 2 tims a day 3 iu each time ,,min i woudl go for size game is 3 iu morning and then 2 iu later during the evening but thats minimum and you better be loaded on aas,,anything under 5 and you only going to burn fat mostly and the growth will come slower and with time,,the fellas on boards say 6 months to see growth becuse all they can afford is 4-5 iu a day
gh15 approved
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fuck you
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God,
what about cable work for arms?
i switched primarily to cable work for my tris and they are growing way more than they ever did with free weight, and i have zero elbow issues.
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gh15 how much protein would you recommend per lb bodyweight for
A drug user?
a natural?
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depends on how much hgh he is on.... but if youre on no gh you dont need to eat as much as fella on gh ,,and if on low dose gh you dont need to eat as much as fella on higher doses of gh,, etc
you sure need to eat mommy and daddy when on 15iu of gh a day but again liek in anything else you do in life,,it depends wether preping or not,,offseason is offseaon it is when you want to stay 7-8% maybe little higher and get food in as much as you can with lots of gh ,,ofcourse you DO NOT WANT TO BE 15% thats when you dont look like bodybuilder..see trey brower when fat,,but when come prep you do not need to eat much ,,the purpose is to nto eat as much and make every calorie count and used more efficiently and effecively by the anabolics gh and other drugs you are on
gh15 approved
Ok sounds good. If i'm taking gh during the offseason or pre-contest what would you reccomend for a T3 dosage? I'm gonna be taking 5iu gh per day for now because it's all I can afford for the next few months stil i start my new job.
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another thing to remember,,legit gh will NOT bloat you as as much as underdoses filler type of gh ,,there are some gh come from china which is shit with fillers that is not dosed right ,,and not high purity ,,again use the brands i tell you here,,do not use anything i dont approve,,the ones i approve will bloat you but not gonna go crazy bloat ,,at 10 in one inject iu anything will bloat you even if gh is legit and pure,,keep it to 3 iu injects and then if you bloat crazy and it dont subside you are working with bad gh ,,mke sure you use the gh i approve,,ill have list here begginnig 2011 of american and china gh i approve
gh15 approved
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gh15 how much protein would you recommend per lb bodyweight for
A drug user?
a natural?
on hgh up to 60 grams protien a meal
on steroid up to 40
natural 25-30
gh15 approved
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on hgh up to 60 grams protien a meal
on steroid up to 40
natural 25-30
gh15 approved
thanks :) im gonna move your answer to my thread about protein rewuirements.
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also dont you take thew individuals bodyweight in consideration?
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hes right though about the opinion based exercises
my friend loves the machine preacher bench but i fucking hate it cuz i don't feel shit
he hates barbell preacher but i looove it
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fuck you
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isolation on everything
there is no best arm routine,,there is what best for you,,if one has formarms the length of your legs he need diff exercise for bicep than you ,,well he dont need it but he will develop better from pecific exercise that for you wont work that well if your forarm is the length of a t-rex,,
you get the idea here,,
gh15 approved
why just go ahead and give us the site to order good quality GH
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GH15, I used a high dose hgh blast for a few days and I couldn't even open a door or hold a fork 2 days ago
how the fuck do you guys tolerate the high doses :o
I couldn't even train chest properly, I had to do an all machine workout because I couldn't grip the bar
i think side are very much dependent on the person. i've been running 8iu ed split (2/3/3) for the past 5 weeks with no stiffness of hands etc. none of the 'bad sides' at all. just a little drowsiness.
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GH15 is the king.
In the past year i've learned a lot from reading his posts. Respect.
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GH15 is the king.
In the past year i've learned a lot from reading his posts. Respect.
Aren't you natural, dipshit?
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God's post about natural trainers only being able to take in 25 to 30 grams of protein per meal is quite interesting coz that means that a natural is all set with 75 to 90 protein grams daily if he is only eating 3 meals daily. Hell, lets make it more interesting and take Sergio's case, as God said he ate 3 meals daily, and with each meal could only use 40 protein grams per pop, so that equals out to only 120 grams daily, for a 233 pound beast 8)
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bump
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lol sergio ate more than 120 grams of protien a day,,this was estimation ,,,,and sergio atr sometimes 4 meal ,,sometime 50 gram protien a meal ,,sometime protien in between ,,but yes the need for very hgih protien is mainly when takin gh ,,other than that you dont need to abuse protien your body shits it ! or it gets to store it as fat and use it as energy but then you want carbs for that,,etc etc
you need to eat till yor body says enough ,,and your body shoudl learn how to say enough at the right time,,if not you cant be bodybuilder ,,atleast competetive
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So how does that apply to natural trainers? Also, what do you think about a natural trainer having 1 junk meal per day ie. Wendy's triple cheeseburger and a large coke? I did MUCH better when I ate a junk meal daily. More strength and more energy. In my experience, a natural trainer MUST diet rather severely to get ripped sub-7, but once the ripped status is achieved then it's possible to hold that condition while eating a much looser diet. Am I right?
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So how does that apply to natural trainers? Also, what do you think about a natural trainer having 1 junk meal per day ie. Wendy's triple cheeseburger and a large coke? I did MUCH better when I ate a junk meal daily. More strength and more energy. In my experience, a natural trainer MUST diet rather severely to get ripped sub-7, but once the ripped status is achieved then it's possible to hold that condition while eating a much looser diet. Am I right?
You don't get it, right??
There is NO "100% rule" to follow. One gets away with a cheat meal a day, one doesn't. It depends on your body, your routine, the rest of your diet and many many other factors when you are natural.
And, as much as i like gh15s posts, but he is not the right guy to ask about natural training IMO. When you are on juice, you can get away with a lot more than when you are natural.
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Ok man, so do you doubt his claim that the best condition that a natural at my height of 5'11" (180cm) can achieve is 165 to 170 (75 to 77kg) at 5-6% bodyfat? Also, yeah I know that many factors come into play with regards to achieveing and maintaining a lean and ripped status sub-7. But my point is that a cheat meal per day is MUCH better than a clean diet, AFTER ripped status is achieved.
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Ok man, so do you doubt his claim that the best condition that a natural at my height of 5'11" (180cm) can achieve is 165 to 170 (75 to 77kg) at 5-6% bodyfat? Also, yeah I know that many factors come into play with regards to achieveing and maintaining a lean and ripped status sub-7. But my point is that a cheat meal per day is MUCH better than a clean diet, AFTER ripped status is achieved.
And i say that one cheat meal per day is bullshit.
It will make you fat, you just may not realize it in the beginning because your bf levels are low. You will have much better results when you get the calories from clean food.
I suppose what you experienced is just the rise in calories from the junk food. Add some almond oil to one protein shake instead, will be much better in the long run.
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Allright man, point taken. And I see that you don't want to question God's all-knowing decree regarding max lean status for a natural ;D
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Allright man, point taken. And I see that you don't want to question God's all-knowing decree regarding max lean status for a natural ;D
one cheat meal per day = 10 i.u. HGH
hth. ;D
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ok so exercises are based on our opinions
what about sets, reps ?
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How could it not be possible to develop massive and outstanding triceps ONLY from dips and close-grip bench presses? In my humble opinion that is all that is needed for complete and fully developed triceps. But as far as biceps are concerned, I think that some direct isolation work is needed for complete and full development of the biceps.
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guys with great triceps usually only have to look at the weights to make them grow.
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guys with great triceps usually only have to look at the weights to make them grow.
Yup.....I only train my arms because it's fun and i like dominating the smaller, weaker members at the gym......if i don't train them at all there is absolutely no loss in size
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guys with great triceps usually only have to look at the weights to make them grow.
QFT
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yes groink thats why you were also part of The Squad, keeping tiny little tits under the thumb is your second nature.
my arm genetics suck ass, they are far behind the rest. but it is what it is i always say.
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yes groink thats why you were also part of The Squad, keeping tiny little tits under the thumb is your second nature.
my arm genetics suck ass, they are far behind the rest. but it is what it is i always say.
try doing the OPPOSITE of everything you do now
like for instance on tricep pushdowns....instead of keeping your elbows tight to your sides, put them way the fuck out and do 'em like that. really hits the long head
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yes thanks good tip i will try that
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So in other words, you are mimicing a close-grip bp on a pulley machine. FYI, look up JM Blakely on google, you'll find some pics of him there. Massive arms, particularly MASSIVE TRICEPS, and with ABSOLTELY NO CABLE OR "ISOLATION" TRICEP EXERCISES. Yeah, I know him very well, and yeah, what I said about his tricep training is very true.
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guys with great triceps usually only have to look at the weights to make them grow.
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ive never seen a guy who had arms as a weak body part bring it up to where its the strongest body part (not using synthol) even with juice.
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ive never seen a guy who had arms as a weak body part bring it up to where its the strongest body part (not using synthol) even with juice.
Yep, arms are weird like that.
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Look all the dumbasses who think that GH15 is a pro bodybuilder eagerly waiting for his advice and sucking on his dick like there is no tomorrow. So sad.
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