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Title: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 07:01:25 AM
just add one table spoon of butter, add some millet and legumes and extra celtic sea salt or some unprocessed sea salt.

the flavor is amazing and it is fully satisfying. has the same zing as meat flavors.....also drink plenty of fruit juices to keep your glyocen full when working out

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Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Spike on January 08, 2011, 07:09:40 AM
your a vegetarian and use butter?

humans have been eating meat since begginging of our existence

cows on the other hand have only been domesticated for 200yrs...give or take

you wont eat meat but you eat dairy products..........alot of people are allergic to gluten and diary and dont even know it, it can make your skin sweel thus rendering your leaness to nothing

butter is wrong move -- use "i cant belive its not butter"

get off the dairy and good luck beung a vegetarian - incomplete proteins and lack of b vitamins, esp b12, you'll feel like shit in 2 weeks but you dumps will stink and your skin will lack alot of 'glow'
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 07:14:57 AM
your a vegetarian and use butter?

humans have been eating meat since begginging of our existence

cows on the other hand have only been domesticated for 200yrs...give or take

you wont eat meat but you eat dairy products..........alot of people are allergic to gluten and diary and dont even know it, it can make your skin sweel thus rendering your leaness to nothing

butter is wrong move -- use "i cant belive its not butter"

get off the dairy and good luck beung a vegetarian - incomplete proteins and lack of b vitamins, esp b12, you'll feel like shit in 2 weeks but you dumps will stink and your skin will lack alot of 'glow'
alot of what you said is false

butter is a natural thing coming out of the cow, it does not harm the cow. You think its a proper proposal to kill an animal that gives you life?

dude two vegetable types can make a complete protien my friend (http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/images/complementary-protein-chart.gif)

there is a type of b-12 found in some algaes but you can always supplement b12 if you are worried about it. there is no lack of other b-vitamins in vegetable/bean/legume/grains foods
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 07:19:11 AM
the above is a small sample chart of the vast amount of incomplete protiens combining to make a complete protien my friend
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: clued-up on January 08, 2011, 07:20:52 AM
I just ate so much fucking rice I’m about to burst.   
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 07:24:14 AM
I just ate so much fucking rice I’m about to burst.   
your supposed to add beans or another grain to it. also drink juice, you will shit alot more and be more regular, much healthier to shit often like an animal

its more natural for a human to not kill. its natural to have desires when angry to kill people that make you mad but more natural to calm ones self down and exist in peace an harmony
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 07:34:49 AM
AND DONT FORGET theres ALWAYS been VEGETARIANS and ALWAYS been MEAT EATERS

back in the day you couldve had a real problem with a deficiency in amino acids if ones diet consited of only 2 grains. because they obviously didnt know amino acid combinations

but now in this day that is not a problem with all the variety we have

its like arguing saying "well weve always walked or road a horse(or always have ate meat..)" and ignoring the fact that now our knowledge has expanded that we have cars( or knowledge of food and proper amino combinations)

the difference is now we know
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 08, 2011, 08:02:46 AM
AND DONT FORGET theres ALWAYS been VEGETARIANS and ALWAYS been MEAT EATERS
I don't believe that. Imagine yourself in the wilderness during the winter. Everything is frozen, except the wildlife. In prehistory people couldn't afford to make principal decisions like modern mankind.

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back in the day you couldve had a real problem with a deficiency in amino acids if ones diet consited of only 2 grains. because they obviously didnt know amino acid combinations

but now in this day that is not a problem with all the variety we have

its like arguing saying "well weve always walked or road a horse(or always have ate meat..)" and ignoring the fact that now our knowledge has expanded that we have cars( or knowledge of food and proper amino combinations)

the difference is now we know
Your chart show that even 'smart' food combinations provide small amounts of certain essential(!) AA's.
If your train for GROWTH you should realize that your choice limits your potential.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: clued-up on January 08, 2011, 08:12:06 AM
your supposed to add beans or another grain to it.

I do add beans on occasion.

If I was eating clean.. rice, beans + protein (beef, chicken and eggs) would be the bulk of my diet.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 08:13:09 AM
I don't believe that. Imagine yourself in the wilderness during the winter. Everything is frozen, except the wildlife. In prehistory people couldn't afford to make principal decisions like modern mankind.
Your chart show that even 'smart' food combinations provide small amounts of certain essential(!) AA's.
If your train for GROWTH you should realize that your choice limits your potential.

weve had small towns , tribes, farmers for thousands of years. even in prehistory your gonna eat everything you can get your hands on even animals. if there is a present day famine then of course eat meat or just die

yes again you agree this is modern mankind so we can make better choices because we are not in a famine

just like if you were stuck in the woods homeless youd make a shelter out of shitty materials because you didnt have good building materials

this idea of "growth" only happens when excess work and excess calories happen.  if you train for "growth" post your pics and lets see if you have hair too no offense.

sure a meat diet works on young people but not as you get older
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 08, 2011, 08:26:04 AM
Add in some "conbread" to the recipe to experience excellent energy for repetitions such as pushups and squats.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 08:35:59 AM
Eating "clean" yeah man, that's the ticket ::) FYI, you can eat whatever the fuck you like, and still look like a studly Adonis, IF you train yo ass off 8)
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Spike on January 08, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
Eating "clean" yeah man, that's the ticket ::) FYI, you can eat whatever the fuck you like, and still look like a studly Adonis, IF you take gh like a beast

fixed ;)
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 08, 2011, 08:55:31 AM
weve had small towns , tribes, farmers for thousands of years. even in prehistory your gonna eat everything you can get your hands on even animals. if there is a present day famine then of course eat meat or just die

yes again you agree this is modern mankind so we can make better choices because we are not in a famine

just like if you were stuck in the woods homeless youd make a shelter out of shitty materials because you didnt have good building materials
So, in other words you admit your claim:
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AND DONT FORGET theres ALWAYS been VEGETARIANS and ALWAYS been MEAT EATERS
is utter bullshit. ::)

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this idea of "growth" only happens when excess work and excess calories happen.  if you train for "growth" post your pics and lets see if you have hair too no offense.

sure a meat diet works on young people but not as you get older
You seem offended by playing it personal.
If you think a calorie is a calorie your basic knowledge of nutrition is pretty low (no offense too)
BTW, isn't it gayish to ask pics of men just because you're curious if they have more or less hair than you?  ::)
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 09:04:38 AM
I like Falcon, but the dude is COMPLETELY CLUELESS when it comes to training and "diet" ;D
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Jack T. Cross on January 08, 2011, 12:00:17 PM
Yeah, there's proof of early vegetarian human groups wandering through warm climates.  Meat-eating is linked with freezing climates.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2011, 12:01:59 PM
I like Falcon, but the dude is COMPLETELY CLUELESS when it comes to training and "diet" ;D

He has found the key. Now just drink the Koolaid.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 12:05:14 PM
Yeah man, be sure to drink lots of juice and eat tons of starchy carbs, and you to can become RIPPED ::) BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 12:08:31 PM
Also, tons of calories are required to add any muscle to one's frame ::) Another COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT statement from da Falcon ;D
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Jack T. Cross on January 08, 2011, 12:14:42 PM
If you're using gear, you can build and maintain a shitload of muscle on a vegetarian diet.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
I'm not denying that one can't build muscle on a vegaterian diet, what I AM DENYING is that a surplus of calories is needed to gain lean muscle tissue.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2011, 02:07:44 PM
Yeah man, be sure to drink lots of juice and eat tons of starchy carbs, and you to can become RIPPED ::) BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I believe the term, in Falconian parlance, is "epic leans."
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
I'm not denying that one can't build muscle on a vegaterian diet, what I AM DENYING is that a surplus of calories is needed to gain lean muscle tissue.

Assuming fat stores are relatively low, aka "epic leans", where would those extra calories come from to build muscle? There is a metabolic costs to adding and maintaining muscle mass which is why bodybuilders have to eat so much. Even their "cutting" diet would made most people fat.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 02:35:17 PM
Well man, I know that you are a fan of Mr. Arthur Jones, and many times he talks about the FACT that he would add lean muscle tissue on near starvation diets of scrambled eggs, black coffee, and cigarettes ;D
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 08, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
Well man, I know that you are a fan of Mr. Arthur Jones, and many times he talks about the FACT that he would add lean muscle tissue on near starvation diets of scrambled eggs, black coffee, and cigarettes ;D
The Colorado experiment in way proved this, Casey which was a genetic freak made huge gains on a reduced diet quickily however muscle memory comes into play he had not trained in quite awhile so some of the gains were due to previous muscle size being stimulated again. He may have smoked cigarettes too I'm not clear on that... 8)
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 03:44:31 PM
not everyone can have HUGE cannon ball delts, BIG manly pecs and ripped abs like dj181
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Rami on January 08, 2011, 04:00:13 PM
the Hindus possess the ancient knowledge of concentrated beef flavor with their "Garam Masala" mixture.

(http://www.mccormickgourmet.com/~/media/Images/Sites/Gourmet/Product%20Pages/Product%20Details/Blends/Garam-Masala.ashx?w=345)


no joke, it gives everything you cook with it ultimate beef flavors

Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
the Hindus possess the ancient knowledge of concentrated beef flavor with their "Garam Masala" mixture.

(http://www.mccormickgourmet.com/~/media/Images/Sites/Gourmet/Product%20Pages/Product%20Details/Blends/Garam-Masala.ashx?w=345)


no joke, it gives everything you cook with it ultimate beef flavors



fuck yes i must try this is Garam Masala the name of the herb/spice or just the name of the product incase i cant find it?


yes the key to good rice is giving it that beefy flavor, once u got it you dont need to add any fat!
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Rami on January 08, 2011, 04:11:20 PM
fuck yes i must try this is Garam Masala the name of the herb/spice or just the name of the product incase i cant find it?


yes the key to good rice is giving it that beefy flavor, once u got it you dont need to add any fat!

I think long ago the Hindus almost went crazy when they banned beef and they had to come up with a solution to calm and satisfy the population, and this is it!

found the ingredients:    

* 4 tbsps coriander seeds
    * 1 tbsp cumin seeds
    * 1 tbsp black peppercorns
    * 1 ½ tsps black cumin seeds (shahjeera)
    * 1 ½ tsps dry ginger
    * ¾ tsp black cardamom (3-4 large pods approx)
    * ¾ tsp cloves
    * ¾ tsp cinnamon (2 X 1” pieces)
    * ¾ tsp crushed bay leaves

the mix is called  Garam Masala I found it at Walmart even
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: tonymctones on January 08, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
alot of what you said is false

butter is a natural thing coming out of the cow, it does not harm the cow. You think its a proper proposal to kill an animal that gives you life?

killing an animal to eat is very natural too, ever look at nature brain child?

I think its more than a proper proposal
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Rami on January 08, 2011, 04:17:44 PM
killing an animal to eat is very natural too, ever look at nature brain child?

I think its more than a proper proposal

yes, to kill is within our physical capabilities, but do you justify it or advice it, just because of that? and in the way it is done?

it would be a sad world if everything naturally within our capabilities would be carried out, we have been given a consciousness and a choice for a reason.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: tonymctones on January 08, 2011, 04:21:56 PM
yes, to kill is within our physical capabilities, but do you justify it or advice it, just because of that? and in the way it is done?

it would be a sad world if everything naturally within our capabilities would be carried out, we have been given a consciousness and a choice for a reason.
??? ::) there very much is a reason and conscious choice to kill an animal to EAT IT!!!!

im not advocating killing animals for the sake of killing but to kill an animal for food is reasonable....

and the same could be said for choosing not to kill animals for food  ::)

you psuedo philosphers should either study up on philosophy first or just leave that shit alone....
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Rami on January 08, 2011, 04:23:36 PM
??? ::) there very much is a reason and conscious choice to kill an animal to EAT IT!!!!

im not advocating killing animals for the sake of killing but to kill an animal for food is reasonable....

and the same could be said for choosing not to kill animals for food  ::)

you psuedo philosphers should either study up on philosophy first or just leave that shit alone....

I'm not a philosopher and I haven't' studied it, I rather just think sometimes
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
Actually Mr N, Viator ate a shitload of food during da Colorado Exp, in fact Arthur said that "Casey ate almost everything, including the kitchen sink" ;D So maybe Falcon can be another Viator, with his fruit juices, butter and rice, using bodyweight exercises with absolutely no PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ;D ROFL! And as far as the coffee, scrambled eggs, and cigarette diet is concerned, well dat was strictly AJ's diet, but he did do what he said. You see AJ was many things, but he certainly wasn't a liar, and dats fo damn sure, ma man 8)
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: tonymctones on January 08, 2011, 04:26:10 PM
I'm not a philosopher and I haven't' studied it, I rather just think sometimes
which is commendable, I would however encourage you to study past philosophers and use there work as jumping off points

Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Rami on January 08, 2011, 04:29:01 PM
which is commendable, I would however encourage you to study past philosophers and use there work as jumping off points



ok there could be a point.  I'm will commence studying
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: makaveli25 on January 08, 2011, 04:38:30 PM
Falcon your threads about your stupid diets suck ass. Vegetarians are the biggest pussys. Have you ever heard of the paleo diet? You should be eating meat as much as you can. What do you think the cave men use to eat? What do you think vikings and all of the other legendary warriors use to eat. Meat! Check out this article  http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2009_caveman_diet.shtml

Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 04:49:26 PM
Yeah, there's proof of early vegetarian human groups wandering through warm climates.  Meat-eating is linked with freezing climates.
x2

good post weegar (http://www.healthcentral.com/common/bloghoster/data/uploads/avatars/35150.gif?1261)
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
Don't worry man, da Falcon is gonna do tons of bodyweight squats and push-ups while eating tons of complex carbs and washing it down with fruit juice and come out of this all being a ripped and massive beast ::) He will defy the laws of science, for he IS da Falcon lol
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 08, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
Falcon your threads about your stupid diets suck ass. Vegetarians are the biggest pussys. Have you ever heard of the paleo diet? You should be eating meat as much as you can. What do you think the cave men use to eat? What do you think vikings and all of the other legendary warriors use to eat. Meat! Check out this article  http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2009_caveman_diet.shtml


I should give this regimen a serious try
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 05:13:20 PM
the diet best for gaining muscle isnt the best for health

when i ate meat i didnt have to put as much effort into working out as i do now
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: dj181 on January 08, 2011, 05:30:05 PM
First of all, if you are using this training protocol of bodyweight squats and push-ups to gain muscle, it ain't gonna do jack shit for you man! If you wanna gain muscle, then you gotta work harder not longer. This volume work WILL help you to get leaner, but... You could get leaner MUCH FASTER IF YOU CUT DOWN ON YOUR CALORIES, while doing these bodyweight exercises.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Marty Champions on January 08, 2011, 05:56:06 PM
First of all, if you are using this training protocol of bodyweight squats and push-ups to gain muscle, it ain't gonna do jack shit for you man! If you wanna gain muscle, then you gotta work harder not longer. This volume work WILL help you to get leaner, but... You could get leaner MUCH FASTER IF YOU CUT DOWN ON YOUR CALORIES, while doing these bodyweight exercises.
wow thanks for the advice yung /\/eega falcon
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 08, 2011, 08:50:36 PM

Whats you bench up to now BDB are you progressing?
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 08, 2011, 09:05:06 PM
Actually Mr N, Viator ate a shitload of food during da Colorado Exp, in fact Arthur said that "Casey ate almost everything, including the kitchen sink" ;D So maybe Falcon can be another Viator, with his fruit juices, butter and rice, using bodyweight exercises with absolutely no PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD ;D ROFL! And as far as the coffee, scrambled eggs, and cigarette diet is concerned, well dat was strictly AJ's diet, but he did do what he said. You see AJ was many things, but he certainly wasn't a liar, and dats fo damn sure, ma man 8)
I stand corrected, I like Arthur's diet better ... ;D
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 08, 2011, 09:42:50 PM
not progressing as fast as I'd like, I'm only benching a grand for four reps in skivies and a wifebeater.
;D stay the course bro 1100 is possible by next year this time.
Title: Re: Using rice starters are the key to being successful on a vegetarain diet
Post by: coltrane on January 14, 2011, 01:15:02 PM
Falcon your threads about your stupid diets suck ass. Vegetarians are the biggest pussys. Have you ever heard of the paleo diet? You should be eating meat as much as you can. What do you think the cave men use to eat? What do you think vikings and all of the other legendary warriors use to eat. Meat! Check out this article  http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2009_caveman_diet.shtml


::) ::)

Yeah, cause modern science says this is the healthy thing to do.

Retard