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Suspect in Arizona shooting held without bail
PHOENIX – The nation got its first look on Monday at the 22-year-old loner accused of trying to assassinate Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Jared Loughner, head shaved, a cut above the right temple and his hands cuffed, scanned a packed courtroom and sat down.
His attorney, who defended Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski, whispered to him.
The judge asked Loughner if he understood that he could get life in prison — or the death penalty — for killing federal Judge John Roll, one of the six who died in the shooting rampage at Giffords' meeting with constituents on Saturday in Tucson.
"Yes," he said, standing at a lecturn in his beige prison jumpsuit. A U.S. marshal stood guard nearby.
The judge ordered Loughner held without bail.
Throngs of reporters and television news crews lined up outside the federal courthouse, where the hearing was moved from Tucson. The entire federal bench there recused itself because Roll was the chief judge.
Hours earlier, the nation observed a moment of silence for the victims of the rampage, from the South Lawn of the White House and the steps of the U.S. Capitol to legislature beyond Arizona and the International Space Station.
There, Giffords' brother-in-law, Scott, the commanding officer, spoke over the radio. Flight controllers in Houston fell silent.
"As I look out the window, I see a very beautiful planet that seems very inviting and peaceful," he said. "Unfortunately, it is not."
"These days, we are constantly reminded of the unspeakable acts of violence and damage we can inflict upon one another, not just with our actions, but also with our irresponsible words," he said.
"We're better than this," he said. "We must do better."
On a frigid morning outside the White House, President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama stood side by side, each with their hands clasped, heads bowed and eyes closed.
On the steps of the U.S. Capitol, congressional staff and other employees did the same.
At the Supreme Court, the justices paused for a moment of silence between the two cases they were hearing Monday morning. Arizona's chief federal judge, John Roll, was killed in the attack.
The president called for the country to come together in prayer or reflection for those killed and those fighting to recover.
"In the coming days we're going to have a lot of time to reflect," he said. "Right now the main thing we're doing is to offer our thoughts and prayers to those who've been impacted, making sure we're joining together and pulling together as a country."
In total, 19 people were shot in the rampage outside a supermarket where Giffords held here meeting. Giffords was shot in the head, and remains in intensive care.
Among the six people killed were a 9-year-old girl who was born on the day of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and was interested in public service, as well as one of Giffords' aides.
Loughner was tackled to the ground minutes after the shooting began, authorities said. He has been silent ever since.
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a friend of mine,,tackled this SOB he looks like that always from the secret video footage that was used to see where he came from to the shooting
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hears another pic of the guy
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if only more people in the crowd had weapons this guy would have been shot from all angles before he could empty his clip
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hears another pic of the guy
Looks a little like Sev
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Looks like your typical run of the mill fruit loop!
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
Amen Ronnie old boy!! I am 100% with you... i think its a joke that this kid even gets a trial.
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They say his father is just like him. :-\
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
I saw her father on the Today show, just absolutely heartwrenching. I cannot imagine a loss of a child and pray I never have to
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They say his father is just like him. :-\
Anyone have any info on his fathers back round?
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Surprise it's a white guy.... ::)
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
other countries will also stone a young woman to death for having pre-marital sex
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
I say rather give him life and let him getting beat up by inmates and wardens until nearly dead on a regular basis. Then let him heal up, then start again. For the rest of his fuckign life.
Because unbearable pain every single day, this is what the kid's parents will go through for the rest of their lives.
Shooting him dead would be way too nice.
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He's lost his mind, plain and simple.
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He's lost his mind, plain and simple.
That's a good excuse!!
He lost his mind!!
Now everything is good, go on, there's nothing to see here.
::) ::) ::)
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That's a good excuse!!
He lost his mind!!
Now everything is good, go on, there's nothing to see here.
::) ::) ::)
You have to look at the bigger picture, what creates these people and who is responsible for their irreversible social dysfunction?? With a population like the U.S.A. things like this are bound to happen and in these crazy urgent, media driven fear ridden times, especially since 9/11, theres mad pressure on peoples brains more than ever and subsequently making more and more people go bonkers and having these biblical mental meltdowns.
The US is doomed for a massive meltdown I can just feel it. Its a brave new world, boy.
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You have to look at the bigger picture, what creates these people and who is responsible for their irreversible social dysfunction?? With a population like the U.S.A. things like this are bound to happen and in these crazy urgent, media driven fear ridden times, especially since 9/11, theres mad pressure on peoples brains more than ever and subsequently making more and more people go bonkers and having these biblical mental meltdowns.
The US is doomed for a massive meltdown I can just feel it. Its a brave new world, boy.
You're right with the social part of the analysis, but the "meltdown" part cuts it short.
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Surprise it's a white guy.... ::)
racist pos.... wait, I totally agree with you lol :X
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Guy was deranged, crazy, mental.... he should have been in a mental ward a long time ago. I doubt he gets the death sentence.
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Surprise it's a white guy.... ::)
;D ;D
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hears another pic of the guy
isnt that seventese
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I'm not really a fan of capital punishment. This guy is def insane and he def needs to die and now not later.
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I think guys who do stuff like this should be given cruel punishment. Torture, all that shit.
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You're right with the social part of the analysis, but the "meltdown" part cuts it short.
Theres plenty more to it obviously but in a nutshell, it was urban dissonance that was the main culprit here.
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;D ;D
;D
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Surprise it's a white guy.... ::)
haha i was gonna post that
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that picture certainly doesn't do his defense any favors...
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that picture certainly doesn't do his defense any favors...
Ya think?
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that picture certainly doesn't do his defense any favors...
wrong , if any thing it helps
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torture his ass to death.
too bad the usa is too pussy to do that
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there will now be spent millions of dollars of tax payers money on trials/legal hoops not to mention long-term costs to keep him alive and provided for in jail for at least some time.
just take him out back and put one bullet in his head and call it a day.
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
100% agree....
but no...he's gonna get life...then get 3 meals a day and watch TV all day long...
the law now a days has nothing to do with justice
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You're right with the social part of the analysis, but the "meltdown" part cuts it short.
It's a collective meltdown---you have a country and a society where many of the young people have been used to having things given to them, and no real repercussions, you have the Baby Boomer who were never parents, yet still won't get the hell out of the way, and let the Gen X and Y forge a new path---yet never showed them how to forge a new path in the first place. Then there is the recession. Then the media, which subsides on rhetoric and entertainment---ratings, and a political climate that focuses on division rather than the topics at hand, and politicians who are more image over substance--which is a reflection of the today's American culture...Throw that all into a blender, and see what you get...
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It's a collective meltdown---you have a country and a society where many of the young people have been used to having things given to them, and no real repercussions, you have the Baby Boomer who were never parents, yet still won't get the hell out of the way, and let the Gen X and Y forge a new path---yet never showed them how to forge a new path in the first place. Then there is the recession. Then the media, which subsides on rhetoric and entertainment---ratings, and a political climate that focuses on division rather than the topics at hand, and politicians who are more image over substance--which is a reflection of the today's American culture...Throw that all into a blender, and see what you get...
Great post. Totally agree.
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if only more people in the crowd had weapons this guy would have been shot from all angles before he could empty his clip
yeah and no one else wouldve got hurt also..
great solution...to stop these shootings, lets arm more people!...the perfect solution!...
ever notice how many shootings happen in countries with strict gun laws?...hmmm?.... with populations on a par with the US?...
weapons breed violence...crap social structure breeds desperation... in other words- the united states of america.
its a fucking cesspit. the arsehole of the world.
then throw in religion, education and the stupid "constitution" ..lol. the funniest thing is that its residents actually believe that its great.
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yeah and no one else wouldve got hurt also..
great solution...to stop these shootings, lets arm more people!...the perfect solution!...
ever notice how many shootings happen in countries with strict gun laws?...hmmm?.... with populations on a par with the US?...
weapons breed violence...crap social structure breeds desperation... in other words- the united states of america.
its a fucking cesspit. the arsehole of the world.
then throw in religion, education and the stupid "constitution" ..lol. the funniest thing is that its residents actually believe that its great.
lots of truth in this post.
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yeah and no one else wouldve got hurt also..
great solution...to stop these shootings, lets arm more people!...the perfect solution!...
ever notice how many shootings happen in countries with strict gun laws?...hmmm?.... with populations on a par with the US?...
weapons breed violence...crap social structure breeds desperation... in other words- the united states of america.
its a fucking cesspit. the arsehole of the world.
then throw in religion, education and the stupid "constitution" ..lol. the funniest thing is that its residents actually believe that its great.
your not as stupid as goodrum looks
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It's a collective meltdown---you have a country and a society where many of the young people have been used to having things given to them, and no real repercussions, you have the Baby Boomer who were never parents, yet still won't get the hell out of the way, and let the Gen X and Y forge a new path---yet never showed them how to forge a new path in the first place. Then there is the recession. Then the media, which subsides on rhetoric and entertainment---ratings, and a political climate that focuses on division rather than the topics at hand, and politicians who are more image over substance--which is a reflection of the today's American culture...Throw that all into a blender, and see what you get...
That is correct. Things are going to get worse before they get better. We will see more and more things like this happen in the future due to the ridiculous social pressures that exist in the great U.S. of A.
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yeah and no one else wouldve got hurt also..
great solution...to stop these shootings, lets arm more people!...the perfect solution!...
ever notice how many shootings happen in countries with strict gun laws?...hmmm?.... with populations on a par with the US?...
weapons breed violence...crap social structure breeds desperation... in other words- the united states of america.
its a fucking cesspit. the arsehole of the world.
then throw in religion, education and the stupid "constitution" ..lol. the funniest thing is that its residents actually believe that its great.
Chicago has a weapons ban and we routinely have more killings each summer than most war zones. So your theory is shit.
As for the photo of the kid...anyone noticed he shaved his eyebrows? I bet he loves counting to purple!
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Chop his mother fucking head off twice.
maybe a exorcism will help but if doesnt work then yes X2.
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How about letting him stand there in front of the nine year old's parents and friends, and let them have a shot at justice. In other countries, this guy would of been shot dead right then and there.
yea the mossad would of shoved his balls down his throat and made him suffocate on his own nuts
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yea the mossad would of shoved his balls down his throat and made him suffocate on his own nuts
Ah cmon your being a little harsh dont ya think?
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Chicago has a weapons ban and we routinely have more killings each summer than most war zones. So your theory is shit.
China has a total guns ban. thats why you read about the 2 dozen or so mass school knifings each year...
people will always kill people. if you take away one tool, they will just use another one
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China has a total guns ban. thats why you read about the 2 dozen or so mass school knifings each year...
people will always kill people. if you take away one tool, they will just use another one
true in one sense, in Japan stabbings also occur.
BUT, stabbing someone with a knife is way harder to kill someone, let alone more than one person than taking your Micro-Uzi to a shopping mall.
Japan has a fairly low rate of this kind of killings, and i am sure it's because of the strict gun laws.
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i saw we take all these losers (this loser, manson, ramirez, etcetera) put them on a deserted island and let them have it out, the last living one dies alone and of starvation! end of story!
or use these losers for animal testing!
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Public hanging or drawn and quartered on PPV......donate the money generated to the victims and their families.
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yeah and no one else wouldve got hurt also..
great solution...to stop these shootings, lets arm more people!...the perfect solution!...
ever notice how many shootings happen in countries with strict gun laws?...hmmm?.... with populations on a par with the US?...
weapons breed violence...crap social structure breeds desperation... in other words- the united states of america.
its a fucking cesspit. the arsehole of the world.
then throw in religion, education and the stupid "constitution" ..lol. the funniest thing is that its residents actually believe that its great.
weapons don't breed anything , they are inanimate objects. a sword is nothing without a hand to wield it.
and it's been prove in this country states with the most strict restrictions on gun also have the highest crime rates and gun violence , restricting law abiding citizens from carrying legally owned firearms means only criminals carry guns.
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Public hanging or drawn and quartered on PPV......donate the money generated to the victims and their families.
LOL thats sooo American im surprised you dont do it already.
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I think guys who do stuff like this should be given cruel punishment. Torture, all that shit.
This guy could have been viewed by many as some kind of anti-hero if he just would have become some kind of serial killer against the system. Instead of just losing it and killing anyone and everyone in his way.
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he looks like a young fucked up uncle fester..festor.. whatever.. that fat dude from adams family