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Title: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: GWAR on January 11, 2011, 05:27:51 PM
any one heard about this or have links to video ?
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: benchmstr on January 11, 2011, 05:30:15 PM
there is a thread about it on the political board....havent clicked yet...


^^^^^^
but this is always good

bench
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: GWAR on January 11, 2011, 05:31:49 PM
there is a thread about it on the political board....havent clicked yet...


^^^^^^
but this is always good

bench
HAHAHAHAHAHAH   are those turks or arabs , either way the fuck heads deserve it
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 05:33:49 PM
Seeing this stuff is comical in a dark way. I like the people who are all for everyone carrying a hand gun. We would see much more of this kind of stuff if everyone had a hand gun. If anything crime and gun related incidents would increase. Im not for gun control or anything. I just think these guys are funny.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: benchmstr on January 11, 2011, 05:39:53 PM
Seeing this stuff is comical in a dark way. I like the people who are all for everyone carrying a hand gun. We would see much more of this kind of stuff if everyone had a hand gun. If anything crime and gun related incidents would increase. Im not for gun control or anything. I just think these guys are funny.
funny how it decreased here...

just because you can carry them doesnt mean you can do whatever the hell you want with them...and if everybody has one it makes a person think twice before using his/hers...

bench
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 05:41:18 PM
funny how it decreased here...

just because you can carry them doesnt mean you can do whatever the hell you want with them...and if everybody has one it makes a person think twice before using his/hers...

bench
The same people advocating everyone have a hand gun thought are against every country having a nuclear warhead... It is the same mindset... why not? Wouldn't you think that would stop the fear of nuclear holocaust?
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: GWAR on January 11, 2011, 05:42:57 PM
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: dogma5914 on January 11, 2011, 05:51:52 PM
Ok. What are you doing with the ooo-woop uzi at 8 years old in a gun club.

This guy is quite the clown for even letting his son touch a gun at that age.

Why do you even need a gun for anyway besides to kill someone. Really?

RIP to the son

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http://theync.com/index.php



Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Well, think about it. In the western days, where people carried guns to the local bar or anywhere for that matter, there was a lot less crime and murder. People were much more behaved. Yes, if you were to give guns to people today, they would probably just shoot each other due to lack of morals and improper upbringing. The world has become a scary, fuked up place. The human race is a disgrace, at an all-time low and will continue to decline.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: benchmstr on January 11, 2011, 06:03:57 PM
The same people advocating everyone have a hand gun thought are against every country having a nuclear warhead... It is the same mindset... why not? Wouldn't you think that would stop the fear of nuclear holocaust?
not even comparable....using a gun is a personal decision...using a nuclear weapon is a act of a whole government.....its common knowledge that any group of people can be influenced in a crowd...hence=politics...

that being said...i dont give a shit who has warheads..

bench
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: benchmstr on January 11, 2011, 06:05:41 PM
Well, think about it. In the western days, where people carried guns to the local bar or anywhere for that matter, there was a lot less crime and murder. People were much more behaved. Yes, if you were to give guns to people today, they would probably just shoot each other due to lack of morals and improper upbringing. The world has become a scary, fuked up place. The human race is a disgrace, at an all-time low and will continue to decline.
the people, and their actions have not changed.....its just now there is a lot more people, and a lot more media outlets covering the shit...thats it...people have always been this way...

bench
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 06:08:33 PM
Well, think about it. In the western days, where people carried guns to the local bar or anywhere for that matter, there was a lot less crime and murder. People were much more behaved. Yes, if you were to give guns to people today, they would probably just shoot each other due to lack of morals and improper upbringing. The world has become a scary, fuked up place. The human race is a disgrace, at an all-time low and will continue to decline.
WRONG: The world has become more moral if anything. People are less inclined to shoot each other. All you had to do was challenge someone to a duel to get away with murder in previous centuries. Some of the worst bank robberies in history occurred when people had guns. You had to approach every stranger with caution back then because you didn't know what they were capable of. Rape and thievery was more common. The fact of the matter is things have only gotten better. You just hear about it more as communication has improved. If you have ever seen movies set in earlier times like There Will Be Blood or others you notice people approach strangers very cautiously. This is an accurate depictions. This is why they have dating rules like having the gentleman face the door when taking a girl out to eat. Those rules were there for a reason. Thinking things were better in previous times is mere ignorance of the era.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 06:09:49 PM
not even comparable....using a gun is a personal decision...using a nuclear weapon is a act of a whole government.....its common knowledge that any group of people can be influenced in a crowd...hence=politics...

that being said...i dont give a shit who has warheads..

bench
It is the same concept though. We are arguing over collective security. You won't pull a gun on someone if you know they can pull a gun right back at you and kill you. Same with everyone having a nuke. You will be less likely to drop a nuke if everyone has one.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: johnnynoname on January 11, 2011, 06:12:44 PM
btw, the world hasn't been any increased "decline"


the only thing that has changed is that we are more aware (via the internet especially) of the bad stuff that is going on world wide
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Mr Anabolic on January 11, 2011, 06:17:16 PM
Lots of gun crimes/accidents all of the sudden.  This is just one more reason for our corrupt, tyrannical US government to clamp down on gun ownership.  

Whether you realize it or not, our individual freedoms and liberties are slowly eroding away.


                                                                                               "Never let a good crisis go to waste".  - Rahm Emanuel
 
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 06:27:34 PM
I'm really annoyed with people like you.  Your chance of being a victim of gun crime is about 1.5 percent.

The world is safer now than ever before in history.
Im agreeing with you... Read ^^
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 06:40:17 PM
btw, the world hasn't been any increased "decline"


the only thing that has changed is that we are more aware (via the internet especially) of the bad stuff that is going on world wide
Spot on.. as communication technology increases things will only get "worse". The best anecdote for this was when the Soviet Union experienced glastnost and everyone complained how things were better under Stalin and more stable. Ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: oldman on January 11, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
first of all, they are not guns, they are weapons...

you don't play with them!

you don't give them to kids!

you only take them out to practice hitting targets...in order to kill someone!

They are not toys.

Now can I finish watching Millionaire Matchmaker!
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: DK II on January 11, 2011, 06:43:22 PM
People are sick to give an 8 year old a gun....


This makes me sad.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 06:52:29 PM
the people, and their actions have not changed.....its just now there is a lot more people, and a lot more media outlets covering the shit...thats it...people have always been this way...

bench

People have changed. People do not have faith anymore and most don't believe in god, nor even know about the ten commandments. Kids aren't raised with the same beliefs and morals and obviously more apt to commit crimes. In the old days, a much greater percentage believed in a higher power and feared committing crimes and sin. A city that believes in doing the right things and following their faith compared to a city that has no beliefs, will be a city with less chaos, less crime and less sin.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 06:54:14 PM
WRONG: The world has become more moral if anything. People are less inclined to shoot each other. All you had to do was challenge someone to a duel to get away with murder in previous centuries. Some of the worst bank robberies in history occurred when people had guns. You had to approach every stranger with caution back then because you didn't know what they were capable of. Rape and thievery was more common. The fact of the matter is things have only gotten better. You just hear about it more as communication has improved. If you have ever seen movies set in earlier times like There Will Be Blood or others you notice people approach strangers very cautiously. This is an accurate depictions. This is why they have dating rules like having the gentleman face the door when taking a girl out to eat. Those rules were there for a reason. Thinking things were better in previous times is mere ignorance of the era.

You gotta be kidding.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:07:41 PM
the people, and their actions have not changed.....its just now there is a lot more people, and a lot more media outlets covering the shit...thats it...people have always been this way...

bench

Spot on.

This is what people don't understand. NOw there are so many mdeia outlets and the news gets reported almost instantly.

50 or so years ago there was no 24 news networks, twitter, internet...etc

Only radio and shitty black/white tv with 2 channels
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
People have changed. People do not have faith anymore and most don't believe in god, nor even know about the ten commandments. Kids aren't raised with the same beliefs and morals and obviously more apt to commit crimes. In the old days, a much greater percentage believed in a higher power and feared committing crimes and sin. A city that believes in doing the right things and following their faith compared to a city that has no beliefs, will be a city with less chaos, less crime and less sin.
Fear of god doesn't prevent crimes. If this was the case we wouldn't have people blowing themselves up in the name of God or starting wars for Christ
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:09:07 PM
People have changed. People do not have faith anymore and most don't believe in god, nor even know about the ten commandments. Kids aren't raised with the same beliefs and morals and obviously more apt to commit crimes. In the old days, a much greater percentage believed in a higher power and feared committing crimes and sin. A city that believes in doing the right things and following their faith compared to a city that has no beliefs, will be a city with less chaos, less crime and less sin.

Move to Indiana or the Bible belt...still plenty of believers.

A lot of people don't belive in god because they got smart and realized it's b.s. (this message brought you by a catholic turned atheist) !
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:11:03 PM
People have changed. People do not have faith anymore and most don't believe in god, nor even know about the ten commandments. Kids aren't raised with the same beliefs and morals and obviously more apt to commit crimes. In the old days, a much greater percentage believed in a higher power and feared committing crimes and sin. A city that believes in doing the right things and following their faith compared to a city that has no beliefs, will be a city with less chaos, less crime and less sin.

So you're saying X amount of years ago when people did belive in god ...there was no crime ? People didn't shoot each other? NO adultery or rape ? NO pedophiles or molesters ?

Come the fuck on...you're smarter than that.

Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:12:29 PM
God is not a deterent to anything.  ...technically everyone who has ever had sexual relations outside of marriage is going to burn in hell. DO you think billions of people who fuck are going to hell? HAHAHAH


Just like how the death penalty exists...and it doesn't deter murders/rapes/...etc from happening.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 07:15:53 PM
Interesting. When I was a kid, I never even heard of other kids shooting each other at school or  while trying to catch the bus. I hear about school shootings almost every week, just in Canada alone. Not to mention stabbings. That shit never happened when I was 15. What's the divorce rate at now? How young are kids having sex now and 15 year old girls having children. They even have a teen mom show for fuk sakes. People used to hold doors for each other and actually say "thanks." I remember driving a car and people cut you off and wave to say sorry, now they give you the finger and flip out. I remember escorting people of a club and they shake your hand, now they threaten to shoot you. I've seen the decline in the world first hand and I've heard senior citizens talk about how much the world has changed and how society is truly fuked. I agree, because I've seen it too.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 07:16:30 PM
So you're saying X amount of years ago when people did belive in god ...there was no crime ? People didn't shoot each other? NO adultery or rape ? NO pedophiles or molesters ?

Come the fuck on...you're smarter than that.



Did I say that?  ::)
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 07:19:01 PM
Move to Indiana or the Bible belt...still plenty of believers.

A lot of people don't belive in god because they got smart and realized it's b.s. (this message brought you by a catholic turned atheist) !

Yes, you've been jaded by the world and don't even know it. You think we're here by chance? That things happen by chance? That the human body, as extremely complex as it is, was made by some big bang? That's sad and it's the type of non belief that is dangerous. To each their own though.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: disco_stu on January 11, 2011, 07:24:46 PM
Lots of gun crimes/accidents all of the sudden.  This is just one more reason for our corrupt, tyrannical US government to clamp down on gun ownership.  

Whether you realize it or not, our individual freedoms and liberties are slowly eroding away.


                                                                                               "Never let a good crisis go to waste".  - Rahm Emanuel
 


the problem is that "your liberties" always impact on others.

blind faith in "being free" means that, for many people, it ignores the impact their actions have on others.

"why cant i fly my home built plane in my own property?"

"why cant i inject what i want into my body?- its my body?"

err, crash that sucker into another plane because you built it wrong and dont know how to fly, or kill someone else..

err, drugs implicate many people desperate to make ends meet.

social liberty is great, but freedom without consequence is not.

thats why people need to have less "liberties" so everyone, as a collective group, can be free.

its also why health care is fucked up in the US.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 07:24:55 PM
Yes, you've been jaded by the world and don't even know it. You think we're here by chance? That things happen by chance? That the human body, as extremely complex as it is, was made by some big bang? That's sad and it's the type of non belief that is dangerous. To each their own though.
Really? I found the centuries of murder in the name of an invisible man to be more horrifying and dangerous then rational thought and science. I found the bombing of an American icon in the name of invisble man and 72 virgins more dangerous then science or rational thought. What about the years of religious war. You will find in many writings during war periods that both sides had "god on their side". I think a man with his hand on the button to laugh a nuke because he believes the rapture is upon us to be more horrifying then anything science or logic could create.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 07:26:45 PM
Interesting. When I was a kid, I never even heard of other kids shooting each other at school or  while trying to catch the bus. I hear about school shootings almost every week, just in Canada alone. Not to mention stabbings. That shit never happened when I was 15. What's the divorce rate at now? How young are kids having sex now and 15 year old girls having children. They even have a teen mom show for fuk sakes. People used to hold doors for each other and actually say "thanks." I remember driving a car and people cut you off and wave to say sorry, now they give you the finger and flip out. I remember escorting people of a club and they shake your hand, now they threaten to shoot you. I've seen the decline in the world first hand and I've heard senior citizens talk about how much the world has changed and how society is truly fuked. I agree, because I've seen it too.
What does this have to do with your primitive jesus mindset? If anything American is more religious then it ever was due to mass communication and new mediums of communication.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: 225for70 on January 11, 2011, 07:30:09 PM
the problem is that "your liberties" always impact on others.

blind faith in "being free" means that, for many people, it ignores the impact their actions have on others.

"why cant i fly my home built plane in my own property?"

"why cant i inject what i want into my body?- its my body?"

err, crash that sucker into another plane because you built it wrong and dont know how to fly, or kill someone else..

err, drugs implicate many people desperate to make ends meet.

social liberty is great, but freedom without consequence is not.

thats why people need to have less "liberties" so everyone, as a collective group, can be free.

its also why health care is fucked up in the US.

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Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 11, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
Father is an absolute fucking retard, taking his son to a gun club to shoot a fucking fully automatic UZI at age 8...

dad should get 8 years for manslaughter, fucking idiot.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 11, 2011, 07:33:23 PM
Haha only in America does a fucking parent let their 8 year old son handle a fucking UZI and the kid ends up shooting himself in the head.  Fucking idiot parents.  I'm shocked how the fucking father can even go on t.v. like the kid was going to walk up to the camera or some shit.....not one tear, or show of emotion?  YOUR KID IS FUCKIND DEAD DUMBSHIT!  I probably wouldn't be able to come out of my house for years if my son killed himself thanks to my irresponsibility.  

Of all the guns the kid could have shot............     .410, .22 long rifle, maybe even a small handgun they give him a fucking UZI?  One of the most unpredictable weapons even in the hands of an adult.  
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 11, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
Father is an absolute fucking retard, taking his son to a gun club to shoot a fucking fully automatic UZI at age 8...

dad should get 8 years for manslaughter, fucking idiot.


Wait for it.....bitchmaster will come on here lauding this dad...........saying it's not guns that kill people it's......ooops...........
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Firemuscle on January 11, 2011, 07:34:45 PM
Haha only in America does a fucking parent let their 8 year old son handle a fucking UZI and the kid ends up shooting himself in the head.  Fucking idiot parents.  I'm shocked how the fucking father can even go on t.v. like the kid was going to walk up to the camera or some shit.....not one tear, or show of emotion?  YOUR KID IS FUCKIND DEAD DUMBSHIT!  I probably wouldn't be able to come out of my house for years if my son killed himself thanks to my irresponsibility.  

Of all the guns the kid could have shot............     .410, .22 long rifle, maybe even a small handgun they give him a fucking UZI?  One of the most unpredictable weapons even in the hands of an adult.  

 He probably wanted his son dead. That's why he let him handle the UZI. He probably told him exactly what to do....
 
 Just like John Travolta wanted his son dead and made it happen, this guy is the same story.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 07:35:49 PM
What does this have to do with your primitive jesus mindset? If anything American is more religious then it ever was due to mass communication and new mediums of communication.

 sure  :D
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 11, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
Haha only in America does a fucking parent let their 8 year old son handle a fucking UZI and the kid ends up shooting himself in the head.  Fucking idiot parents.  I'm shocked how the fucking father can even go on t.v. like the kid was going to walk up to the camera or some shit.....not one tear, or show of emotion?  YOUR KID IS FUCKIND DEAD DUMBSHIT!  I probably wouldn't be able to come out of my house for years if my son killed himself thanks to my irresponsibility.  

Of all the guns the kid could have shot............     .410, .22 long rifle, maybe even a small handgun they give him a fucking UZI?  One of the most unpredictable weapons even in the hands of an adult.  

Was thinking exactly the same... give the kid a .22 rimfire long gun, something stable not a gun that most adults can't control properly.. the father is clearly fucked in the head, he did that tv interview without even feeling bad like 'oh well, it happened..time to move on'
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
Did I say that?  ::)

Yes, you are saying that. Why bring up anyting about god to make your point how back in the day people were had better morals?
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:51:40 PM
Haha only in America does a fucking parent let their 8 year old son handle a fucking UZI and the kid ends up shooting himself in the head.  Fucking idiot parents.  I'm shocked how the fucking father can even go on t.v. like the kid was going to walk up to the camera or some shit.....not one tear, or show of emotion?  YOUR KID IS FUCKIND DEAD DUMBSHIT!  I probably wouldn't be able to come out of my house for years if my son killed himself thanks to my irresponsibility.  

Of all the guns the kid could have shot............     .410, .22 long rifle, maybe even a small handgun they give him a fucking UZI?  One of the most unpredictable weapons even in the hands of an adult.  

Uzis are illegal in united states. The parents are criminals for even having that shit.

SO what other guns does the rest of the world let their kids handle?

Dumbfuck.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
He probably wanted his son dead. That's why he let him handle the UZI. He probably told him exactly what to do....
 
 Just like John Travolta wanted his son dead and made it happen, this guy is the same story.

Hahahha .... don't you have other ways to get attention from people? You have to resort to baiting posts on the interent you pathetic fuck.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Firemuscle on January 11, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
Hahahha .... don't you have other ways to get attention from people? You have to resort to baiting posts on the interent you pathetic fuck.

 Nope. This is my only means of communication with other human beings. I'm a poor lonely man  :'(

 Actually I was being serious.

 He gave a kid an UZI. Sounds like he was hoping for an "accident" to happen. It's not that far-fetched.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: pluck on January 11, 2011, 07:55:06 PM
Yes, you've been jaded by the world and don't even know it. You think we're here by chance? That things happen by chance? That the human body, as extremely complex as it is, was made by some big bang? That's sad and it's the type of non belief that is dangerous. To each their own though.

Your grossssssssssly over simplified response just shows your ignorance and sheep mindset to accept answers without question. I'm not going to debate you anymore. You're set in your ways...that's fine.


200 years ago there were no gasoline engines....they are very complex. There's no way they could have come about by chance ?

Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Master Blaster on January 11, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
Your grossssssssssly over simplified response just shows your ignorance and sheep mindset to accept answers without question. I'm not going to debate you anymore. You're set in your ways...that's fine.


200 years ago there were no gasoline engines....they are very complex. There's no way they could have come about by chance ?



Maybe you are both wrong

Maybe its a basic principle of the universe that information tends towards increased complexity  (not chance or God)
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Yes, you are saying that. Why bring up anyting about god to make your point how back in the day people were had better morals?

If you don't see it, what can I say. I've seen drastic changes over the years with my own eyes. Kids carry guns to school. Kids fuk while they're still kids. parents rarely stay together and adultery is worse than ever. Kids grow up with one parent. Kids are dumb as fuk and completely lack direction. Why? Because people don't believe in anything nor give a fuk, just like most people here. You have to be blind not to see what is happening everyday before you own eyes.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
Your grossssssssssly over simplified response just shows your ignorance and sheep mindset to accept answers without question. I'm not going to debate you anymore. You're set in your ways...that's fine.


200 years ago there were no gasoline engines....they are very complex. There's no way they could have come about by chance ?



Your comparing the human body to a gasoline engine? And I'm simplified? :D
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 08:07:30 PM
If you don't see it, what can I say. I've seen drastic changes over the years with my own eyes. Kids carry guns to school. Kids fuk while they're still kids. parents rarely stay together and adultery is worse than ever. Kids grow up with one parent. Kids are dumb as fuk and completely lack direction. Why? Because people don't believe in anything nor give a fuk, just like most people here. You have to be blind not to see what is happening everyday before you own eyes.
We aren't saying the changes aren't there but people "not believing in anything" does not have anything to do with it. Look at the statistics of religion and criminals. What percentage of criminals do you think are atheists? I'll be your getbig account atheists make or those who have no belief in anything make up the smallest percentage of criminals in jail.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 08:08:34 PM
Your grossssssssssly over simplified response just shows your ignorance and sheep mindset to accept answers without question. I'm not going to debate you anymore. You're set in your ways...that's fine.


200 years ago there were no gasoline engines....they are very complex. There's no way they could have come about by chance ?


You are just justifying his argument with that one. :D
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 11, 2011, 08:25:15 PM
We aren't saying the changes aren't there but people "not believing in anything" does not have anything to do with it. Look at the statistics of religion and criminals. What percentage of criminals do you think are atheists? I'll be your getbig account atheists make or those who have no belief in anything make up the smallest percentage of criminals in jail.

I know what you're saying and yea, a lot of people that state they believe in god aren't good people, but that doesn't mean they are followers and practice their beliefs. Less and less people do. Less people actually attend church, less people pray. In this current world, with all the shit that's going on, it is tough to keep the faith. I don't go to church anymore nor am trying to convince people there is a god. I just believe people that keep that firm faith, keep their values and morals in check more often than not. Doing right by god was instilled in me at a very young age and believe that's why I'm not in jail today, mind you I'm far from perfect and probably further than you.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: dogma5914 on January 11, 2011, 08:33:22 PM
I guarantee if the parents told their kids that having sex was a sin and that it would send them to hell that they would be very quick to stop doing it. They do not do that unfortunately and with today's media opening supporting sin (yes i did notice the inverted star on the t shirt of one of the jersey shore actors pauly d in the first episode of this new season) its no wonder the guy shows no emotion to his son being shot.

I think that surprised me more than anything though. It really would not surprise me if there was a story about this guy killing himself over the grief. Just imagine the verbal lashing he is going to get from the kid's mom for having to come home and say, "yeah, timmy's not coming home tonight because I let him shoot himself in the head with an UZI"
 
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Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Parker on January 11, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
Well, think about it. In the western days, where people carried guns to the local bar or anywhere for that matter, there was a lot less crime and murder. People were much more behaved. Yes, if you were to give guns to people today, they would probably just shoot each other due to lack of morals and improper upbringing. The world has become a scary, fuked up place. The human race is a disgrace, at an all-time low and will continue to decline.
No, it was a hell of a lot more...gun shoot outs a plenty... forgot which town it was (now a city), but it held the record for most deaths in a year...The undertakers in most towns were the most prominant "businessmen" in town...steady business...
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 11, 2011, 08:45:23 PM
I guarantee if the parents told their kids that having sex was a sin and that it would send them to hell that they would be very quick to stop doing it. They do not do that unfortunately and with today's media opening supporting sin (yes i did notice the inverted star on the t shirt of one of the jersey shore actors pauly d in the first episode of this new season) its no wonder the guy shows no emotion to his son being shot.

I think that surprised me more than anything though. It really would not surprise me if there was a story about this guy killing himself over the grief. Just imagine the verbal lashing he is going to get from the kid's mom for having to come home and say, "yeah, timmy's not coming home tonight because I let him shoot himself in the head with an UZI"
 
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Yea... that'll do it. Santa got me to behave just as well as jesus did  ::)
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Flexb on January 12, 2011, 06:21:00 AM
No, it was a hell of a lot more...gun shoot outs a plenty... forgot which town it was (now a city), but it held the record for most deaths in a year...The undertakers in most towns were the most prominant "businessmen" in town...steady business...

I think 911 alone wiped out any records back then. Of course there was murder but most people believed in the law and those that didn't eventually were shot or hung. Put a gun in everyone's hands these days and you'll bet the population of your average city drops quickly by 10%.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 12, 2011, 06:40:47 AM
You can't force feed morals. Then they are no longer morals.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2011, 06:45:41 AM
Seeing this stuff is comical in a dark way. I like the people who are all for everyone carrying a hand gun. We would see much more of this kind of stuff if everyone had a hand gun. If anything crime and gun related incidents would increase. Im not for gun control or anything. I just think these guys are funny.

WRONG

Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2011, 06:47:21 AM
any one heard about this or have links to video ?

I heard about this when it happened , it happened in my state Massachusetts. the video is only being shown to the jury

tragic case
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Tom on January 12, 2011, 07:02:42 AM
quote: "you have to have a license to catch a fish, but they'll let any buttreaming asshole be a father"

father: hmm, he'll be sorely missed?! you fricking douchebag, your son is dead because of your unlimited and unchecked stupidity! sorely missed?! he acts like he lost his favorite shirt!!!!!!!!

and what the father and i used that word "extremely loosely" was 10 feet away getting his camera?!

what a kodak moment to take a photo of your son with a uzi! the epitome of douchebag irresponsibility!

charges better be underway el pronto for this man!
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 12, 2011, 07:28:27 AM
WRONG


Read the whole thread moron. Never said gun control reduces crime  ::)
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 12, 2011, 07:35:11 AM
quote: "you have to have a license to catch a fish, but they'll let any buttreaming asshole be a father"

Controlled reproduction = money loss. Money is more important than anything.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2011, 07:35:22 AM
Read the whole thread moron. Never said gun control reduces crime  ::)
We would see much more of this kind of stuff if everyone had a hand gun

you're claiming ' much more of this kind of stuff ' would take place if everyone had a gun , which is again patently wrong , more guns means decrease in violence , the states which have the toughest gun laws also had the highest gun related crimes and the most violence.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: mass243 on January 12, 2011, 07:37:26 AM
darwin award
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 12, 2011, 07:38:35 AM
We would see much more of this kind of stuff if everyone had a hand gun

you're claiming ' much more of this kind of stuff ' would take place if everyone had a gun , which is again patently wrong , more guns means decrease in violence , the states which have the toughest gun laws also had the highest gun related crimes and the most violence.
Im not advocating we do away with guns. You are taking my statement and twisting it a bit which i can see would be easy to do on the internet. If everyone walked around with a gun though and used it at will there would be my gun related crime and incidents.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: slaver on January 12, 2011, 07:40:12 AM
This is so funny on so many levels.

I will refrain from any racsit comments.

I really will.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Butterbean on January 12, 2011, 07:43:07 AM

you only take them out to practice hitting targets...in order to kill someone!

Not fully true.

Shooting at targets is fun :)
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2011, 07:45:36 AM
Im not advocating we do away with guns. You are taking my statement and twisting it a bit which i can see would be easy to do on the internet. If everyone walked around with a gun though and used it at will there would be my gun related crime and incidents.

Now you're amending your statement to if they used it at ' will ' what does that mean? they've interviewed criminals in prison and ask what their main concern was when perpetrating their crimes and their number one response? running into someone who carried a gun , so if more people carried concealed crime goes down because criminals don't want to run the risk.

 
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 12, 2011, 07:56:25 AM
Now you're amending your statement to if they used it at ' will ' what does that mean? they've interviewed criminals in prison and ask what their main concern was when perpetrating their crimes and their number one response? running into someone who carried a gun , so if more people carried concealed crime goes down because criminals don't want to run the risk.

 
Ok.... that's almost as good as saying if we forced everyone to read the bible and taught them the moral teachings of Christianity crime would go down. Not everyone who goes out with a gun is trying to rob someone. Let me put it this way... if 4% of the population has a gun and we have X amount of gun related incidents and then we change that number to 50% of the population having  a gun.... I don't know but to me it is kind of obvious that X would increase in number.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: spinnis on January 12, 2011, 08:57:16 AM
there is a thread about it on the political board....havent clicked yet...


^^^^^^
but this is always good

bench

lol.

kinda looked like it went straight into the heart..
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: spinnis on January 12, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
You cant drink until you're 21 but you can shoot an UZI when you're 8?

what the fuck are your goverment thinking with? lol
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 12, 2011, 09:45:18 AM
Uzis are illegal in united states. The parents are criminals for even having that shit.

SO what other guns does the rest of the world let their kids handle?

Dumbfuck.

Uzis are not illegal.  Meaning if you go through the proper channels and documents etc. class III license or are a dealer etc. they are most certainly legal.  Have you seen some of the shit some Americans own as far as guns?  Some of these hill billy gun club members are shooting M60s and shit like that.  It's fucking insane.  I'm all for being able to legally own a machine gun IF you are responsible.  But an 8 year old kid has no business being around weaponry like that.  It's fucking stupid.  But I can't say some kid sitting around playing COD all day is healthier. 
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: geneticmarvel on January 12, 2011, 09:45:55 AM
Lots of gun crimes/accidents all of the sudden.  This is just one more reason for our corrupt, tyrannical US government to clamp down on gun ownership.  

Whether you realize it or not, our individual freedoms and liberties are slowly eroding away.


                                                                                               "Never let a good crisis go to waste".  - Rahm Emanuel
 


Yep, baby steps. They"ll get you eventually it just takes time.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 12, 2011, 09:51:53 AM
Ok.... that's almost as good as saying if we forced everyone to read the bible and taught them the moral teachings of Christianity crime would go down. Not everyone who goes out with a gun is trying to rob someone. Let me put it this way... if 4% of the population has a gun and we have X amount of gun related incidents and then we change that number to 50% of the population having  a gun.... I don't know but to me it is kind of obvious that X would increase in number.

 not it isn't and why? it's a proven fact , more guns less crime. the cities that shall issue concealed carry permits compared to ones that don't have less gun crimes and gun violence.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: StickStickly on January 12, 2011, 10:16:22 AM
not it isn't and why? it's a proven fact , more guns less crime. the cities that shall issue concealed carry permits compared to ones that don't have less gun crimes and gun violence.
We aren't just talking about crime. I said gun related incidents... includes accidents etc. I have known many fools to blow their own heads off because of "accidents" or playing around just like this father and his son. It is ironic that all the "accidents" happen in house holds that have guns. Statistics do show that conceal guns deter crime. There is usually an initial dip in crime rate after a ban and then a few years later it rises. Im not saying we should ban guns. I have just always looked down on fools and their guns. I personally hate them. I hate shooting them. They piss me off but i fully support anyones right to own a full automatic gun to allow their 8 yr old son to use to blow his own head off with.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Natural Man on January 12, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
the only thing you have control over is your own life, and only if you were raised correctly, or if you reverse engeenered how you were conditionned to keep the good, and removed the bad soon enough. Very few people free themselves from the underlying subconscious unadaptated schemes inherited from their parents, family and are able to really take control over their own life. Even when you reach that point, you figure what you can do and what you cant is still... predeterminated. You can only be the sum of what precedes you and you have to sort what is suitable and what isnt.
 You can only have an influence on your woman or kids, but not even total control. And you better be smart and enjoy reading to have a GOOD influence on em and not fuck em up.

It means this thread is pointless.
Title: Re: 8 year old shoots self with uzi
Post by: Cableguy on January 12, 2011, 10:27:44 AM


This was from a year or 2 ago. I used to work in Western MA. My home office was in Westfield.