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Unreal.
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Branding a memorial service? Really?
And the crow jeering? Seemed like it was a second away rom Wellstone Funeral redux.
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Like clockwork - the media goes into jizz mode. Pathetic.
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NBC's Chuck Todd: I "Got Chills" Listening To Obama (video)
RealClearPolitics ^ | January 13, 2011 | RealClearPolitics
NBC News' Chuck Todd gives his reaction to President Obama's speech last night at the memorial.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
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Facing Challenge, Obama Returns to Unity Theme (Gov. Brewer Receives 'Boos' at Pep Rally)
NY Times ^ | 12 Jan 2011 | ADAM NAGOURNEY
TUCSON — When President Obama took the stage here Wednesday to address a community — and a nation — traumatized by Saturday’s killings, it invited comparisons to President George W. Bush’s speech to the nation after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the memorial service President Bill Clinton led after the bombing of a federal office building killed 168 people in Oklahoma City in 1995 . . .
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Even as it began, some conservative commentators were posting comments criticizing the memorial service for being overly partisan and more like a pep rally, and there were some boos in the hall when Gov. Jan Brewer, a Republican, spoke. Those reactions would have been hard to imagine, say, in the days after the Oklahoma City bombing.
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Nice - booing Jan Brewer.
Perfectly appropriate fr a memorial. ::) ::)
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what a terrible shirt ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Together, We Thrive how dare they put that on a shirt. what kind of message is that to send. may be they wanted it to say lock and load, :D :D
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what a terrible shirt ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Together, We Thrive how dare they put that on a shirt. what kind of message is that to send. may be they wanted it to say lock and load, :D :D
Well I guess the problem would be that it takes a bunch of people getting shot and killed before all of the sudden we need to work together. Never hear anything about working together when Dems are in control, only occurs when the reps get in power.
As to the end game, get everyone worked up, then the we need to work to together propaganda, so we take away more of your rights with your approval.
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BiPartisan only means the GOP has to give away the store.
When the Dems are in power the message is "STFU - we won"
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big to-do about nothing
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big to-do about nothing
That seems to be your answer to everything, and you wonder why America is so fucked up
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That seems to be your answer to everything, and you wonder why America is so fucked up
so tell me whats the big deal ???
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so tell me whats the big deal ???
To you apparently nothing
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i would like to know why the right wants to make a big deal of the shirts ???
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"I went to a memorial to remember six dead fellow citizens and all I got was this lousy Campaign T-Shirt" ;D ;D
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More tacky shit from the Astroturf Gang.
"Yes We Can"
"Organizing for America"
blah blah blah blah - its all empty slogans and pap.
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::) ::) ::) thats whats wrong with the faaar right
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::) ::) ::) thats whats wrong with the faaar right
It seems everything goes right over your head, you concentrate on the T-shirt. There is a bigger picture and end game with all of this.
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Sheep.
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i would like to know why the right wants to make a big deal of the shirts ???
I would like to know why the left wants to make a big deal of Palin's map.
Especially when in 2004 they did this:
We took screenshots in case Markos tries to hurriedly scrub his site if incriminating posts like he did yesterday (we have this saved page, too):
Also check out Kos’s “target” list (on which Giffords was listed). If we’re going to play the asinine game of metaphorical maps, we can go tit-for-tat all day.
Also check out the Democrat Leadership Committee target list, again, on which Giffords was listed.
(http://bigjournalism.com/files/2011/01/Picture-25.png)
So much for Palin being the only one with "targets" on her maps.
This online article was back in March of 2010. Showing how stupid Democrats were for criticizing Palin when they themselves did the following back in 2004:
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647
Democratic Leadership Committe TARGET list:
(http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010/03/DCCC-target-map.jpg)
Each one of those red targets represents a “Targeted Republican” like this one:
(http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010/03/DCCC-targeted-republican.jpg)
There’s even a helpful legend that makes it clear that’s precisely what the little red targets represent:
(http://www.verumserum.com/media/2010/03/DCCC-map-legend.jpg)
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It seems everything goes right over your head, you concentrate on the T-shirt. There is a bigger picture and end game with all of this.
it seems you like to make to much of things,but why don't you inform me of the bigger picture and end game ???
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Yeah I know this is going in SAMSON territory
" MARK PENN: Cabinets don’t really sell things. The President himself has to reconnect with the people. Remember, President Clinton reconnected through Oklahoma, right?…
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Yeah, because of the bombing down there…
MARK PENN: …And President right now, he seems removed. It wasn’t until that speech that he really clicked with the American public. Obama needs a similar kind of happening.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: You think words are enough for Obama at this point?
MARK PENN: No. He’s gotta get some results. But words will work, I think, if he finds that right moment."
Strange isn't it
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it seems you like to make to much of things,but why don't you inform me of the bigger picture and end game ???
Perhaps if you actually paid attention to things you would see all the knee jerk legislation that is being introduced. So whats the end game? Take away more of your rights while you stand there and say much ado about nothing.
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how did we get to that, the post was about the shirts might be stretching things a little
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how did we get to that, the post was about the shirts might be stretching things a little
I knew better than to respond to you, won't happen again
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::) Really 333 this is what you complain about? I think the t-shirts were fine it's not like it had re-elect Obama 2012 on it is it? I think it was a great idea to give somebody something to take home and remember it by i'm all for it if it helps these people heal and move forward aren't you?
Jeering is unnecessary and i'm glad it was only a minority of those in attendance, however i can't help but think you would take any opportunity to jeer obama so really those that jeered are the lefts version of you, crazy, unstable and unable to contain their emotions when needed.
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::) Really 333 this is what you complain about? I think the t-shirts were fine it's not like it had re-elect Obama 2012 on it is it? I think it was a great idea to give somebody something to take home and remember it by i'm all for it if it helps these people heal and move forward aren't you?
Jeering is unnecessary and i'm glad it was only a minority of those in attendance, however i can't help but think you would take any opportunity to jeer obama so really those that jeered are the lefts version of you, crazy, unstable and unable to contain their emotions when needed.
The T Shirts seem very creepy to me.
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The T Shirts seem very creepy to me.
But what if they help them move forward and heal? You can not say it does will not do that anymore than i can say it will so please leave the bullsh*t 'they are creepy and astrotruf' rubbish at the door. If it helps any one of them move on then it's a positive.
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I immediately thought of this vid when I saw the shirts.
I don't go for the group think and manipulation.
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::) So solidarity in a time of crisis means nothing? I guess you don't believe in pledging to the flag either or being American because you know that's 'group think'
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::) Once again you've proven you are little more than an angry little troll
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::) Once again you've proven you are little more than an angry little troll
No, I'm showing that obama's MO is to toss ignorant sheep into tacky t shirts for political reasons.
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I knew better than to respond to you, won't happen again
sorry but you have gone too far with this , the post was about t shirts
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Many good comments.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2011/01/13/together-we-thrive/?cxntfid=blogs_jamie_dupree_washington_insider
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I thought the university was in charge of the program not the President.
I would think it would have been the university that printed up and handed out the t-shirts.
Sandra
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This is excatly what I am talking about.
1. Messianic complex - check
2. Jeering - check
3. Self aggrandizement - check
4. Teleprompter bullshit - check
5. Getting suckers to fall for this bs - check
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It was sort of a partisan atmosphere. Unfortunate.
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I didn't watch it. Why were people jeering at a memorial service?
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dude is a woman,.
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I didn't watch it. Why were people jeering at a memorial service?
Because they got college kids infatuated with Obama t attend and gave them campaign style t shirts to wear.
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dude is a woman,.
Nah, I think Bama is just a guy whipped by his wifey. ;D
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Every Obama speech is a campaign speech. He never gets out of campaign mode.
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Because they got college kids infatuated with Obama t attend and gave them campaign style t shirts to wear.
::) You've truly fallen off the cliff now. Have you no shame at all? With each post it's like you get further and further into this anti-obama rage at the cost of all common sense.
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::) You've truly fallen off the cliff now. Have you no shame at all? With each post it's like you get further and further into this anti-obama rage at the cost of all common sense.
They were yelling to Obama "we love you" etc etc.
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BUSTED - I FOUND IT!
I KNEW THIS WAS ASTROTURF AND CAMPAIGN BS.
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Together We Thrive
By John Berry IV - Feb 11, 2008 12:49:37 AM ET
Also listed in: Collin County for Obama | Obama Dallas
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For too long Americans have been set one against the other, it is a side affect of a free market society. How can profits be maximized, how can I get the work done for the lowest possible costs. This continually sets one group against the other, especially in the blue collar sectors of America. It has become a part of the American Business model, whether it was indentured servants, slaves picking cotton, sharecroppers, the industrious people that built the railroads or todays migrant workers. As long as we remain divided, fighting for the scraps that America has to offer it will be one group against the other.
What I see in Obama is a chance for a revolution. A chance for every group to participate and be heard; A chance to live the American dream that has been denied to so many. Together we can and will change the world and return America to the shining beacon of Hope and Prosperity that we were and that we can be again. Only when we work together do we accomplish feats that rival any ever accomplished in the history of mankind. Diversity is our strength, that is what this campaign brings us a promise of. For many this is a scary prospect and thought, getting to know someone different from myself. We all want the same basic things for example a safe place to live, health and a quality education for our kids.
In a previous career, I was the global leader of Diversity for a global fortune 500 corporation, I have studied the affects of diverse groups working together and the results can not be denied. Together we Thrive!!!!!!!!!!!
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White House Says It Wasn't Responsible for Picking Rowdy Basketball Arena for Arizona Memorial..
CNSNews ^
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White House Says It Wasn't Responsible for Picking Rowdy Basketball Arena for Arizona Memorial Service Thursday, January 13, 2011 By Fred Lucas
Washington (CNSNews.com) – White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday that the White Houes was not responsible for choosing a basketball arena, as opposed to a church or a smaller auditorium that might be more conducive to a solemn event, for Wednesday's night's memorial service in Tucson, Ariz.
The McKale Memorial Center, an athletics facility at the University of Arizona, was packed with a reported 14,000 people, who repeatedly broke out in cheers and screams of a sort not ordinarily associated with a memorial service.
Last Sunday, the Arizona Wildcats basketball team played Stanford in the same arena, and this Saturday they will play Arizaon state there.
Gibbs said the White House did not play a role in choosing the venue for the memorial. A university spokesperson told CNSNews.com that the venue was picked after President Barack Obama confirmed he would be attending.
At Thursday's White House briefing, CNSNews.com asked, “What was the reason for choosing the arena as opposed to maybe a church or a smaller venue?”
Gibbs said the venue was chosen by the University of Arizona not the White House.
“Well, I would point you to the university on that, and I think it’s important to understand this was--we were invited to and accepted quite happily the invitation of the university,” Gibbs told CNSNews.com.
“I think having that many people there and being able to include people from the community was, again, was and is an important part of that healing process. But in terms of logistics and things like that, I’d point you to the university as they’d probably be better to answer your questions on those sorts of things,” he added.
Jennifer Fitzenberger, director of external communications for the university, confirmed the university began planning the event over the weekend, and invited President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama to attend.
“It was held at the university and coordinated with city and county officials,” Fitzenberger told CNSNews.com. “The venue was decided on after the president accepted.”
Earlier in the White House press briefing, Mark Knoller of CBS News asked Gibbs, “What did the president think about the pep rally aspect and tone of the event last night?”
Gibbs responded that it was part of the grieving process.
“Well, look, I’m not a Tucsonian, obviously, but I think that having been there for a day before the president got there, you could understandably feel the weight of what had happened,” Gibbs said.
“I think part of the grieving process is celebrating the lives of those that were lost and celebrating the miracles of those that survived. I think you’ve all probably by now read the transcript from the two members on the plane last night about their personal experience with the congresswoman in her hospital bed. It’s an emotional thing to read,” he added.
“Again, I think--I will say that the speech--I read the speech several times and thought that there wouldn’t be a lot of applause, if any,” Gibbs continued. “I think many of us thought that. But I think there was a celebration, again, of the lives of those that have been impacted, not just those that – not just at that grocery store but throughout the country. And I think that if that is part of the healing process, then that’s a good thing.”
Obama’s speech lasted 33 minutes 44 seconds and was interrupted for applause 51 times. The tone of the applause at times included shouts and whistles similar to a political rally.
The speech was compared to earlier speeches given by presidents during a time of national crisis, such as President Ronald Reagan’s speech after the Challenger space shuttle explosion in 1986 and President Bill Clinton’s speech after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.
Reagan’s speech was delivered from the Oval Office and lasted less than three minutes.
Clinton delivered his speech at the State Fair Grounds Arena. The Associated Press reported that 20,000 were in attendance. The speech went for 9 minutes and 10 seconds. The speech was interrupted for applause eight times, but was more subdued and typically involved clapping after certain lines in the speech.
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I think 240 and Gibbs are related.
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Bump
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BUSTED - I FOUND IT!
I KNEW THIS WAS ASTROTURF AND CAMPAIGN BS.
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Together We Thrive
By John Berry IV - Feb 11, 2008 12:49:37 AM ET
Also listed in: Collin County for Obama | Obama Dallas
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For too long Americans have been set one against the other, it is a side affect of a free market society. How can profits be maximized, how can I get the work done for the lowest possible costs. This continually sets one group against the other, especially in the blue collar sectors of America. It has become a part of the American Business model, whether it was indentured servants, slaves picking cotton, sharecroppers, the industrious people that built the railroads or todays migrant workers. As long as we remain divided, fighting for the scraps that America has to offer it will be one group against the other.
What I see in Obama is a chance for a revolution. A chance for every group to participate and be heard; A chance to live the American dream that has been denied to so many. Together we can and will change the world and return America to the shining beacon of Hope and Prosperity that we were and that we can be again. Only when we work together do we accomplish feats that rival any ever accomplished in the history of mankind. Diversity is our strength, that is what this campaign brings us a promise of. For many this is a scary prospect and thought, getting to know someone different from myself. We all want the same basic things for example a safe place to live, health and a quality education for our kids.
In a previous career, I was the global leader of Diversity for a global fortune 500 corporation, I have studied the affects of diverse groups working together and the results can not be denied. Together we Thrive!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn 33, even I wasn't thinking there was anything political about those shirts. Good job bringing down the hammer.
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BUSTED AGAIN - OBAMA IS USING THE MEMORIAL AS A KICK OFF TO HIS 2012 RE-ELECTION
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/14/12725/0526
Host a SOTU "Together We Thrive" PROGRESS PARTY! It's time to Network For Progress!
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We need to put the "working" into NETroots!
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LMAO.. Busted.. because that your opinion and the opinion of others... HAHAHAHAHAHA
Soooo GAY.. So youre gay because me and a few others think you are?..Epic Logic
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Come on Mal - even you have to be ashamed by this shameless politicking off the deaths of people.
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I'm sure someone could pull a 333 post and claim that because some words were the same Boehner has 333 campaigning for him.
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I'm sure someone could pull a 333 post and claim that because some words were the same Boehner has 333 campaigning for him.
Go ahead, try. The links I have provided from OFA ad Daily kos prove they are exploiting this tradgedy for political reasons.
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-january-13-2011-ron-howard
HAHAHAHA THIS IS 3333
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They cheered for Republican Governor Brewer too
I dont' see anything wrong with how the crowd reacted to her comments
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She actally gave a good speech and very heart felt. She held back crying a few times.
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She actally gave a good speech and very heart felt. She held back crying a few times.
Bad speech you know she had notes right? Obama had notes too so i guess if one is bad, the other must be too. ::)
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Bad speech you know she had notes right? Obama had notes too so i guess if one is bad, the other must be too. ::)
Notes are one thing - reading a script off a teleprompter like a robot is a whole other matter.
KC - can you name me one thing Obama has ever said from one of these speeches that is memorable to you?
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Notes are one thing - reading a script off a teleprompter like a robot is a whole other matter.
KC - can you name me one thing Obama has ever said from one of these speeches that is memorable to you?
All his speeches?
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All his speeches?
For example:
Reagan: "Govt is the problem", "Tear down this wall" , Evil Empire, etc
With George Bush: NWO, No New Taxes, Invasion of iraq, etc etc
Clinton: Did not have sex with that woman, "angry voices', era of big govt is over, etcetc
GWB: "I Can hear you, the rest of the world can hear you . . . ", "We will not tire, we will not fail" etc etc.
Obama: . . . . . . . . . .
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For example:
Reagan: "Govt is the problem", "Tear down this wall" , Evil Empire, etc
With George Bush: NWO, No New Taxes, Invasion of iraq, etc etc
Clinton: Did not have sex with that woman, "angry voices', era of big govt is over, etcetc
GWB: "I Can hear you, the rest of the world can hear you . . . ", "We will not tire, we will not fail" etc etc.
Obama: . . . . . . . . . .
I'm pretty sure that message of 'change you can believe in' resonated enough to draw hundreds of thousands to see him speak. So yeah.
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Again since he was elected I fant think of one memorable thing that stands out.
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Again since he was elected I fant think of one memorable thing that stands out.
Lets be honest here you're not exactly looking at Obama positives are you?
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I'm being dead serious. I can't think of anything at all. Even the so called leg tingles matthews got from a bama spEch - does anyone remember that?
To me - bamas best line still is from the 2004 convention about the united staes.
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Notes are one thing - reading a script off a teleprompter like a robot is a whole other matter.
KC - can you name me one thing Obama has ever said from one of these speeches that is memorable to you?
so your issue is how Obama reads his speaches?
you'd prefer he read from notes ?
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so your issue is how Obama reads his speaches?
you'd prefer he read from notes ?
Absolutely. I prefer notes than the teleprompter any day.