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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bam-bam on January 15, 2011, 01:46:15 PM
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Dicuss.
Also, if you haver never taken any of those, please state it clearely before your comment.
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Shit, pretty even down the line.. also depends heavily on dosage.. if I had to pick one I would say deca more water..
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Back in the day I used to train mu thay and also almost became a rockstar between bouncing at clubs
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Dicuss.
Also, if you haver never taken any of those, please state it clearely before your comment.
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taken both many times,i would say test cyp,deca just flat out sucks in my opinion,id much rather do eq.
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Shit, pretty even down the line.. also depends heavily on dosage.. if I had to pick one I would say deca more water..
this is what I found from another board, the dude was taking 400mg/week
anyways update:
week 11. did my last injection
weight: 209 lbs (from 184, difference 25 lbs)
bench press: 315 lbs x 6 (from 225 lbs x 10)
squat: 405 lbs x 5 (from 315 lbs x 10)
definatly look noticably different. many comments from friends and accquaintances at the gym.
i can't wait to get dipped to find out exactly how much of the weight was muscle and fat.
sides: minimal to none. little acne on chest (1 or 2 zits, nothing much),
great pumps in the gym.
no rage, decrease in anxiety; however, no euphoric feelings either
but i think my favorite thing about the cycle was hope restful sleep is! i feel so refreshed.
The numbers are impressive. He didnt post pics so its impossible to know how much of his weight gain came from water and fat, but his lifts got a lot heavier so I would bet at least half of those 20lbs or so gain in weight was from rock solid muscle.
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no shit, the board is full of those wikipedia gurus with posts in the thousands leaving their 2 cents in every single thread created, talking like they know their shit 100%. Then they posts their pics and you go ::) ::) ::) dude doesnt even lift weights
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why in the hell would you take deca without test?....retarded...
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no shit, the board is full of those wikipedia gurus with posts in the thousands leaving their 2 cents in every single thread created, talking like they know their shit 100%. Then they posts their pics and you go ::) ::) ::) dude doesnt even lift weights
I agree
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I agree
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thats why we have guys asking about deca only cycles ;D
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Dicuss.
Also, if you haver never taken any of those, please state it clearely before your comment.
run NPP if you want deca like gains w/o the water.
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why in the hell would you take deca without test?....retarded...
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test was the base of all my cycles. I planning to do a stand alone one this year, and some local bber told me to take deca instead of cyp, so thats why I am asking.
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test was the base of all my cycles. I planning to do a stand alone one this year, and some local bber told me to take deca instead of cyp, so thats why I am asking.
dont do it....the only thing you will gain is water, and a mushy hard on...
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dont do it....the only thing you will gain is water, and a mushy hard on...
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may I ask, you talking from experience?
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may I ask, you talking from experience?
yes...everyone who runs enough makes the mistake of running a bullshit deca only cycle...worthless...
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Back in the day I used to train mu thay and also almost became a rockstar between bouncing at clubs
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Im happy to hear that since I was already inclined to use cyp. Back in the day I used SHITLOADS of test and it always made me feel great in all aspects even with no PCT bs at all, and as bonus it gave me epic woods everyday waking up. Test to put it simply made me feel like superman
always use a foundation...which is test...and is a must...no way around it..
anabolics such as deca, eq, tren....all optional but not needed
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always use a foundation...which is test...and is a must...no way around it..
anabolics such as deca, eq, tren....all optional but not needed
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but lets say I wanted to be big and dry, test+eq better than just eq still valid? Can I avoid the test bloat drasticly reducing carbs, for example?
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but lets say I wanted to be big and dry, test+eq better than just eq still valid? Can I avoid the test bloat drasticly reducing carbs, for example?
test prop and tren will get you big and dry,thats coming from experience,i used to run prop at 100 mgs a day and tren ace at 50 mgs a day and those were my biggest and dryest days,but if youre worried about water take some armidex.
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may I ask, you talking from experience?
Dude, I had the same mishap early on in one of my cycles, did more deca then test.. well that absolutely torpedoed my chances of getting laid for about a month, deca dick is real and you don't want it.
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in terms of test I have acess only to cyp and sustanon. But isnt it the truth that test is test once it is kicking in into the body?
somewhat but prop is known to carry less bloat and being that its a short acting test you can adjust it accordingly,i personally would do sust over cyp thats just me i used to do sust at 1500 a week shooting 2 on m,w, and friday and 400 mgs of eq a week and i was the strongest and biggest i have ever been.myself i like prop the best then sust then cyp,but actually i like suspension the best hahahah,i could talk about this allday.
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some solid responses in this thread
I am a big fan of sustanon too, but because of its fast acting esters it is best to inject it 2-3x week and that is something I am not willing to to. One shot every sunday evening and I am not feeling like a junkie with needles everywhere and injecting drugs EOD...
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some solid responses in this thread
I am a big fan of sustanon too, but because of its fast acting esters it is best to inject it 2-3x week and that is something I am not willing to to. One shot every sunday evening and I am not feeling like a junkie with needles everywhere and injecting drugs EOD...
i hear ya bro,ya shooting all time is a pain in the ass.so just hit eq and cyp once a week that will yield good results.
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Tempted to try Eq but injecting vet grade gear is a big no-no for me
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Tempted to try Eq but injecting vet grade gear is a big no-no for me
Vet grade is about 10 times safer and more sterile then underground, heh
it goes through most of the same protocol's human grade does.
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but lets say I wanted to be big and dry, test+eq better than just eq still valid? Can I avoid the test bloat drasticly reducing carbs, for example?
eq by itself is going to lower test,and=bloat...
bloat while on test=not enough test, or your injection timing is wrong for that ester...
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Vet grade is about 10 times safer and more sterile then underground, heh
it goes through most of the same protocol's human grade does.
my test cyp is Deposteron, have never gone the underground route.
What are the common Equipoise gains and side effects?
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The first thing I ever used was cyp. I was on one 10cc bottle spread out over I believe 7 or 8 weeks. After about 3-4 weeks I went back to my friend that sold it and told him he was an asshole cuz I thought it was fake and nothing was happening. He told me to stfu and just keep usiing it. Assured me it was real, and he was a "big time" player so I took his word and stayed on. Week 4 or 5 my strength shot up out of nowhere on every lift. I was getting pumps I'd never felt before and in those last 3-4 weeks I gained a little over 20 lbs. Downside I was way bigger, but holding water like a mofo. My cheeks were soooo huge that when I would come to work (at the gym) one of my bosses used to sing "puff the magic dragon" as I would walk by. lol
Personally, I've always like enanthate waaaaayyyyyy better for my test. I get strength gains off very little dosage wise, and I don't bloat up like on cyp. The best I've ever used is Testoviron by schering out of Europe at 250 per amp. Amazing stufff! Weird side note....I once was on testovirons and growing awesome with no sides. A friend decided he didn't want to use juice no more and gave me like 5 amps of primo teston also 250 mg per amp, also by schering, but from mexico.....within a week and a half i was getting the feeling of gyno starting and broke out all over the place. Never could figure that one out.
I have used deca (whatever that shit from mexico was called in the 50 ml bottle) with test, and without. I agree with everyone else. Don't think deca adds much with test, and it sucks ass without it and kills your wood. It did not make me hold water anywhere near what cyp did though. Nothing ever has come close to that
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my test cyp is Deposteron, have never gone the underground route.
What are the common Equipoise gains and side effects?
for me gains on eq were becoming very strong and vascular and hungry,side effects none that i know of,alot of people say it gives them anxiety but i never got that.
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The first thing I ever used was cyp. I was on one 10cc bottle spread out over I believe 7 or 8 weeks. After about 3-4 weeks I went back to my friend that sold it and told him he was an asshole cuz I thought it was fake and nothing was happening. He told me to stfu and just keep usiing it. Assured me it was real, and he was a "big time" player so I took his word and stayed on. Week 4 or 5 my strength shot up out of nowhere on every lift. I was getting pumps I'd never felt before and in those last 3-4 weeks I gained a little over 20 lbs. Downside I was way bigger, but holding water like a mofo. My cheeks were soooo huge that when I would come to work (at the gym) one of my bosses used to sing "puff the magic dragon" as I would walk by. lol
Personally, I've always like enanthate waaaaayyyyyy better for my test. I get strength gains off very little dosage wise, and I don't bloat up like on cyp. The best I've ever used is Testoviron by schering out of Europe at 250 per amp. Amazing stufff! Weird side note....I once was on testovirons and growing awesome with no sides. A friend decided he didn't want to use juice no more and gave me like 5 amps of primo teston also 250 mg per amp, also by schering, but from mexico.....within a week and a half i was getting the feeling of gyno starting and broke out all over the place. Never could figure that one out.
I have used deca (whatever that shit from mexico was called in the 50 ml bottle) with test, and without. I agree with everyone else. Don't think deca adds much with test, and it sucks ass without it and kills your wood. It did not make me hold water anywhere near what cyp did though. Nothing ever has come close to that
were you in a bulking diet also? ho was your daily carb intake?
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my test cyp is Deposteron, have never gone the underground route.
What are the common Equipoise gains and side effects?
Gains? lean, pumped muscle, increased vascularity, increased appetite, amazing thickness and fulness
side effects? none that I've noticed, not just off EQ anyways, I'm sure there are some mild ones but very mild at that
I still think it is the absolute best one steroid to use for what it offers.