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Building next cycle- Tren A , Test Prop , Masteron. Need help with mgs per week and frequency. Know I need prop eod but not sure about the others. Runnin cycle 16 wks.
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Building next cycle- Tren A , Test Prop , Masteron. Need help with mgs per week and frequency. Know I need prop eod but not sure about the others. Runnin cycle 16 wks.
Cycle experience, stats and previous doses used would be helpful.
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hahahaha...doubt you will last 16 weeks on tren.....and if your a newb, i doubt you will last a month on ED pinning...
Cycle experience, stats and previous doses used would be helpful.
agreed
bench
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First off the tren a will make tender injections and so will the test prop so I would go with test e 500 - 750mg a week and 200mg tren a do 50 mg shot intervals mix it with test so it takes the sting out and do 300mg mast. And as for doing tren the whole time might make u feel bad so do 6 weeks in beginningand 6 at end
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Building next cycle- Tren A , Test Prop , Masteron. Need help with mgs per week and frequency. Know I need prop eod but not sure about the others. Runnin cycle 16 wks.
do 1ml tren +1ml prop eod for the entire 16 weeks. since your using short esters you can "blast" every once in a while by doing injections 2 or 3 days in a row then going back to eod. utilize the "blast" when ever you are going to or just went super heavy. just my 2 cents..
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6'2", 270pounds, 17%bf, wear 36 waist pants, large wide build, 35 yrs. old.....3 cycles past year consisting of sus 250, deca, dbol, eq, test 50, test 200 .... several cycles in my mid 20s... took break due to making a bunch of kids! Thanks guys
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Thanks Shrek and tbombz, appreciate the advice ;D
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16wks on tren is a long ass time, 12wks should be tops IMO and 8 is more like it.
Dosage, minimum 50mg/eod. Even at that dose results will be fantastic. If you want a little more 75-100mg/eod is a very solid dose. Top dose, I wouldn't go over 100mg every day...that's a butt load of tren and can give you some unreal results but most can't handle the every day or that high of a dose.
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16wks on tren is a long ass time, 12wks should be tops IMO and 8 is more like it.
Dosage, minimum 50mg/eod. Even at that dose results will be fantastic. If you want a little more 75-100mg/eod is a very solid dose. Top dose, I wouldn't go over 100mg every day...that's a butt load of tren and can give you some unreal results but most can't handle the every day or that high of a dose.
your a pussy arnold :P
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your a pussy arnold :P
How so?
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your a pussy arnold :P
;D
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How so?
I guess because you don't want to have your testosterone suppressed heavily for over at least a year, which long Tren cycles can easily do...that makes you a pussy. It's ok, when I mentioned the idea of having your lipids monitored while on a cycle, I was called a Mega-fag or some nonsense. Apparently you are a pussy if you don't desire permanent low testosterone levels and have concern about your future cardiac functions. Gotta love the stupidity.
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I've used tren and heavy cycles for over 8 months at a time and never had my test suppressed for over a year
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I've used tren and heavy cycles for over 8 months at a time and never had my test suppressed for over a year
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM
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I totally agree with watching your cardiac functions and getting blood work checked frequently...as long as you post cycle with hcg and clomid your test levels should return to normal...the main thing to be concerned about is your blood pressure and lipid panel.
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And hemoglobin, creatine levels, and if you abuse orals you need to check your liver enzymes on and off cycle..
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I guess because you don't want to have your testosterone suppressed heavily for over at least a year, which long Tren cycles can easily do...that makes you a pussy. It's ok, when I mentioned the idea of having your lipids monitored while on a cycle, I was called a Mega-fag or some nonsense. Apparently you are a pussy if you don't desire permanent low testosterone levels and have concern about your future cardiac functions. Gotta love the stupidity.
Dude, you are drug free, not sure why you are concerned.
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Wow!!! Was just looking for some help and advice not a bunch of drama! Anyway, thanks to the guys who shared their knowledge. I'll keep you all posted. ;D
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16 weeks of hi blood pressure and screaming at people in traffic.....no thx, 6-8 is plenty for me.
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You'll get high blood pressure screaming at people regardles if your on or off
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You'll get high blood pressure screaming at people regardles if your on or off
The missus gives me high blood pressure constantly ;D
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Lmaoooo
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tren sides are overrated, used it 350mg ew in my first cycle and only side I had was night sweat and more sweating at the gym..thats it, good gains with almost no side..cant imagine the gains on 700mg :o must be crazy
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tren sides are overrated, used it 350mg ew in my first cycle and only side I had was night sweat and more sweating at the gym..thats it, good gains with almost no side..cant imagine the gains on 700mg :o must be crazy
"tren sides are overrated"...Agreed
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"tren sides are overrated"...Agreed
Depends on the guy. Like all AAS it can be very individually based. I've never had any problems with Tren but know many guys who have.
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I prefer tren enanthate tho, less injection
2 times a week is more than enough for my taste, shooting ED or EOD is a pain in the ass
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I prefer tren enanthate tho, less injection
2 times a week is more than enough for my taste, shooting ED or EOD is a pain in the ass
x2 fuck tren ace next time im running enanthate..i hate pinning, now i only pin 3 times a week, 2x3cc of test+1x3cc deca, works wonder
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Yea but if you run into unwanted sides its much faster to get it out of your system with acetate..
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Yea but if you run into unwanted sides its much faster to get it out of your system with acetate..
Plus milligram for milligram tren-a is more potent, further it's more efficient in terms of maintaining consistency.
Tren-E = a good steroid
Tren-A = an ass kicking steroid and blows everything else out of the water...it is IMO the perfect AAS.
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Plus milligram for milligram tren-a is more potent, further it's more efficient in terms of maintaining consistency.
Tren-E = a good steroid
Tren-A = an ass kicking steroid and blows everything else out of the water...it is IMO the perfect AAS.
How about Tri Tren or Parabolin?
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How about Tri Tren or Parabolin?
Tren-Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (Tren-Hex) or Parabolin are pretty much the same thing...is tren-hex what you're calling "Tri Tren?"
Anyway, as for Parabolin, it's not that popular anymore and legit Parabolin is rare...even so, Tren-a is still superior to Parabolin IMO.
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x2 fuck tren ace next time im running enanthate..i hate pinning, now i only pin 3 times a week, 2x3cc of test+1x3cc deca, works wonder
im with you....... i can never be arsed with ed injects, unless its realy needed, as in pre contest
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Tren-Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (Tren-Hex) or Parabolin are pretty much the same thing...is tren-hex what you're calling "Tri Tren?"
Anyway, as for Parabolin, it's not that popular anymore and legit Parabolin is rare...even so, Tren-a is still superior to Parabolin IMO.
No Tri Tren is a blend of 50mg Acetate 50mg Enanthate 50mg Hex
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Plus milligram for milligram tren-a is more potent, further it's more efficient in terms of maintaining consistency.
Tren-E = a good steroid
Tren-A = an ass kicking steroid and blows everything else out of the water...it is IMO the perfect AAS.
True..I prefer TA more so as it makes me want to fuck like a beast where as the Tren E gives me soft noodle :-\..
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How about Tri Tren or Parabolin?
Whats up with "tri-tren"? Seems to be the "trend" these days..
I know guys who have used it and have blown up.
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Whats up with "tri-tren"? Seems to be the "trend" these days..
I know guys who have used it and have blown up.
Same here that's why I'm interested in it
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Plus milligram for milligram tren-a is more potent, further it's more efficient in terms of maintaining consistency.
Tren-E = a good steroid
Tren-A = an ass kicking steroid and blows everything else out of the water...it is IMO the perfect AAS.
it's the same fucking thing, just take more of the enanthate to compensate for the esther and it's the same thing
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it's the same fucking thing, just take more of the enanthate to compensate for the esther and it's the same thing
Yes you're right but the Acetate still makes more sense IMO. I'm a fan of more frequent injections, not that I like it but most anabolic steroids seem to work more efficiently on a regular injection frequency.
True..I prefer TA more so as it makes me want to fuck like a beast where as the Tren E gives me soft noodle :-\..
That doesn't make a lot of sense....not calling you a liar at all but tren-e and tren-a are the same drug, makes me wonder if one is something else but you didn't know it.
No Tri Tren is a blend of 50mg Acetate 50mg Enanthate 50mg Hex
Sounds pointless to me.
Whats up with "tri-tren"? Seems to be the "trend" these days..
I know guys who have used it and have blown up.
To me that's like saying "I mixed test-e and Cyp together and blew up more than I would on Cyp alone." It makes no sense.
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That doesn't make a lot of sense....not calling you a liar at all but tren-e and tren-a are the same drug, makes me wonder if one is something else but you didn't know it.
On paper no it doesnt but the body plays a diff game at times , we all react diff to diff drugs.
I know others have this issue to , maybe the Enan ester being in the body longer opens some to more sides like this ? who knows :)
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To me that's like saying "I mixed test-e and Cyp together and blew up more than I would on Cyp alone." It makes no sense.
i blew up way quicker when i would add test p, to test e......not more, just faster...i think thats what most people mean...its a mental thing i think...
bench
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i blew up way quicker when i would add test p, to test e......not more, just faster...i think thats what most people mean...its a mental thing i think...
bench
I also think i look better on test p over E lol .. maybe its less "water"
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I also think i look better on test p over E lol .. maybe its less "water"
its not what i meant...i think a lot of guys just think they get bigger on short esters because the gains come fast, and they notice the results easier, instead of it gradually packing on...
..i always added p to e just to have a quicker ester added in..
bench
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shorter esters have more of a JOLT to them, you feel them much more. whether or not they are more effective.. most things are mental anyways so its possible
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Poorly brewed, oxidized tren is pretty harsh. Any decent tren isn't bad. I don't get why people are so quick to throw their hands on their hips and tell people "Listen squirt, you're gonna want at least a half dozen cycles under your belt before you ride the trenbologna pony. Don't forget your Nolvadex and Clomid PCT either!"
Buddy at my old gym has been running tren every other day for over a decade. Granted, his body has fallen apart from the 20 years of hardcore juicing and power lifting, but his blood work and everything else is pretty on par for someone who's abused his body like a pin cushion. I too realized that it's not so bad, but I've never run more than 50mg EOD for a short period of time, usually a bit less of a dose or more time in between. I had great results from 50ml of tren ace pinned like every two days, so fuck esters and blood levels. And fuck needing a decade of experience. Tren will give you great results but as always, look for the best product or brew it yourself if you're up for the challenge. I've only ever used whatever shit's been brewed up in Canada and saw fantastic results. Been thinking of brewing my own someday.
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Blood work won't show how much plaque is built up on his arteries