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Made 315 look easy went waaay past failure
I think he can do 405
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/in-the-trenches/3280-ifbb-pro-evan-centopani-trains-shoulders-.html
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i'm more impressed with his views on crop rotation in the 17th century
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stronger than branch i think
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I wonder how he will look at Arnold Classic..
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stronger than branch i think
Yes, but Branch uses chains :D
"No chains - no gains" is motto of Branch 8)
If you use no chains you are not hardcore.
This is Branch doing cable cross overs:
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6976/branchuseschains.jpg)
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He's also strong on Bench Press.
Lee Priest was very strong on Dumbell press.
Yet they both have weak chests.
Evan will never have a good chest. All genetics.
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i hope good
he seems a cool guy
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Made 315 look easy went waaay past failure
I think he can do 405
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/in-the-trenches/3280-ifbb-pro-evan-centopani-trains-shoulders-.html
based on thT VIDEO HE WOULD NOT COME CLOE to move 405 for 1 inch
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Yes, but Branch uses chains :D
"No chains - no gains" is motto of Branch 8)
If you use no chains you are not hardcore.
This is Branch doing cable cross overs:
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6976/branchuseschains.jpg)
hahahahahahaha
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He's also strong on Bench Press.
Lee Priest was very strong on Dumbell press.
Yet they both have weak chests.
Evan will never have a good chest. All genetics.
More or less because both let their triceps take over. Prolly because both have concentrated on arms. Notice that bbers who concentrate on arms more tend to have weaker chests...and those that focus on chest tend to have either chest that over power or match their arms.
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Made 315 look easy went waaay past failure
I think he can do 405
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/in-the-trenches/3280-ifbb-pro-evan-centopani-trains-shoulders-.html
Doubt if he can do 405 for even a single. Ronnie did 12 clean reps a lot easier on the same exercise in 'The Unbelievable' and he could just barely manage 1 rep with 405 in a FLEX photoshoot with Cormier a year or so later.
Good to see a pro lifting heavy with free weights and decent form, though.
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More or less because both let their triceps take over. Prolly because both have concentrated on arms. Notice that bbers who concentrate on arms more tend to have weaker chests...and those that focus on chest tend to have either chest that over power or match their arms.
And they both posess stellar triceps...
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Doubt if he can do 405 for even a single. Ronnie did 12 clean reps a lot easier on the same exercise in 'The Unbelievable' and he could just barely manage 1 rep with 405 in a FLEX photoshoot with Cormier a year or so later.
Good to see a pro lifting heavy with free weights and decent form, though.
I think he could..
either way i think hes stronger than branch way better form
branch actually stands halfway while doing seated military presses
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Branch is 75% momentum. I really wonder how many time he could press 315 sitting still with strict form.
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Branch is 75% momentum. I really wonder how many time he could press 315 sitting still with strict form.
very true i mean look this video
branch was standing while doing seated military presses
Johnnie is actually 100 times worse
how is he the strongest bber in the world he couldnt even press 15
while centopani presses it like its nothing with better form and more reps
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Who is stronger Eric or Evan?
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;D
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How much did Flex do on Mass Construction? Pimpin weight---
Branch And Joj seemed to rush thru that---Which shows in their physiques.
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Dunno if it shows in their physiques but that was very bad form
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very true i mean look this video
branch was standing while doing seated military presses
Johnnie is actually 100 times worse
how is he the strongest bber in the world he couldnt even press 15
while centopani presses it like its nothing with better form and more reps
Jackson is strong on the deadlift for sure, squat and bench not so much. Seems like there are all kinda of bodybuilders out there who are stronger than him though. Not only does he claim to be strong, but the "strongest in the world" which is a balsy statement considering Branch Warren and Matt Kroc are always out lifting him from what I see.
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Dunno if it shows in their physiques but that was very bad form
Branch has poor seperation in his delts, arms, traps, just mass of muscle. JOJ is getting that way, but both have had better seperation back when they first got their pro cards.
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Branch has poor seperation in his delts, arms, traps, just mass of muscle. JOJ is getting that way, but both have had better seperation back when they first got their pro cards.
Branch has poor separations because he claims lifting light weights and concentrating on muscle control is a waste of time and won't get you in shape. He said "its diet and cardio that get you in shape", which is true but he thinks lifting heavy all year round with ballistic form is gonna create a great physique. You need to lift in the 12-15 rep range with decent form to create rounder muscles- something he dont have.
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Jackson is strong on the deadlift for sure, squat and bench not so much. Seems like there are all kinda of bodybuilders out there who are stronger than him though. Not only does he claim to be strong, but the "strongest in the world" which is a balsy statement considering Branch Warren and Matt Kroc are always out lifting him from what I see.
imo johnnie is not even in the top 15 strongest bbers of all time
i mean look at that vid branch made him look weak
of the top of my head a list of bbers stronger than johnnie
coleman
levrone
shawn
cormier
branch
efferding
bertil
centopani
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More or less because both let their triceps take over. Prolly because both have concentrated on arms. Notice that bbers who concentrate on arms more tend to have weaker chests...and those that focus on chest tend to have either chest that over power or match their arms.
priests chest is crappy because he simply does not have tghe geneitcs,,
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i watched the video with cempofami for a little bit and he talks alot of nonsense,, he forgot to mention what really built the muscle for all those guys,, drugs...free weight or machine it doesnt matter its all about tension on the muscle
ohh..and the beyond failure thing cempiofami did,, just unnecessary risk
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imo johnnie is not even in the top 15 strongest bbers of all time
i mean look at that vid branch made him look weak
of the top of my head a list of bbers stronger than johnnie
coleman
levrone
shawn
cormier
branch
efferding
bertil
centopani
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No doubt man. Now I know Levrone had a crazy strong chest for his size, but dont know if he was super strong overall like alot of the other strength greats. I bet there are plenty of guys from the old days that are stronger than Jackson too so I wouldnt call him anywhere near the strongest, ever. Honestly, what was he thinking calling himself that?
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imo johnnie is not even in the top 15 strongest bbers of all time
i mean look at that vid branch made him look weak
of the top of my head a list of bbers stronger than johnnie
coleman
levrone
shawn
cormier
branch
efferding
bertil
centopani
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many MANY bodybuilders you dont kow the name of can lift as much or more than those ;)
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Doubt if he can do 405 for even a single. Ronnie did 12 clean reps a lot easier on the same exercise in 'The Unbelievable' and he could just barely manage 1 rep with 405 in a FLEX photoshoot with Cormier a year or so later.
Good to see a pro lifting heavy with free weights and decent form, though.
THIS.
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Centopani pissed me off with the "stabiliser muscles" BS, broscience at its best.
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I think franco columbo was the strongest ever! especially pound for pound
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many MANY bodybuilders you dont kow the name of can lift as much or more than those ;)
agree with you
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I think franco columbo was the strongest ever! especially pound for pound
Strongest bodybuilder to ever live. And he proved it in the gym and on the Worlds Strongest Man circuit.
At a 190lb bodyweight!
520lb bench press
750lb+ deadlift
670lb squat.
Spent his spare time bending quarters and 1" thick steel rods with his teeth.
Johnnie Jackson who?
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Evan is strong as hell, but he sure like to yawn.
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Strongest bodybuilder to ever live. And he proved it in the gym and on the Worlds Strongest Man circuit.
At a 190lb bodyweight!
520lb bench press
750lb+ deadlift
670lb squat.
Spent his spare time bending quarters and 1" thick steel rods with his teeth.
Johnnie Jackson who?
Yeah columbo was strong very strong
I think lectins had great strength particularly in the pushing movements
Johnnie is strOng in deads. But strongest bber no way ... Worst form in bbing yes
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Like I said franco hands down! he could bench 400pds for reps laughing. Franco also has the best widdest pull-up form I have ever seen anybody do
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Franco also had a strong deadlift ... I'd definetley have him in my top10 strongest
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thats a glorified incline bench ::)
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Evan is strong as hell, but he sure like to yawn.
Haha, I noticed that - looks like he needs more quality sleep.
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Centopani pissed me off with the "stabiliser muscles" BS, broscience at its best.
I've always wondered, what exactly are the names of some of these stabilizer muscles? Everyone always talks about them, yet no one seems to know what they really are.
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Evan went nice and deep on the front presses. I thought he was going to use loose form with short, choppy reps.
Instead of doing too many forced reps, I think he shouldve had his spotter peel a 45lb plate off each side of the bar so he could bust out with 225 after hitting failure with 315. (but i can see why he wanted those negatives with 315 though)
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thats a glorified incline bench ::)
That is the main reason I don't give a shit about overhead presses of bodybuilders.
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thats a glorified incline bench ::)
Don't agree there .. Looks like a legit military press to me
... He just kept his head back ... I tried that yesterday and it targets the delta better
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Don't agree there .. Looks like a legit military press to me
... He just kept his head back ... I tried that yesterday and it targets the delta better
nobody gives a fuck what you think
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He's also strong on Bench Press.
Lee Priest was very strong on Dumbell press.
Yet they both have weak chests.
Evan will never have a good chest. All genetics.
Because strength = tendons
Bench press = shoulders and triceps
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Don't agree there .. Looks like a legit military press to me
... He just kept his head back ... I tried that yesterday and it targets the delta better
I did it a few hours ago (trained delts and triceops today) except I did it on the smith machine but brought the bar down to just below the chin with the head back - nice controlled slow smooth reps - couldn't use as much weight of course but my shoulders were pumped like hell. Good exercise.
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I did it a few hours ago (trained delts and triceops today) except I did it on the smith machine but brought the bar down to just below the chin with the head back - nice controlled slow smooth reps - couldn't use as much weight of course but my shoulders were pumped like hell. Good exercise.
totally fried my delts on monday way better than keeping your head foward felt it all through the delts
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evan is the man. i do wonder.. would his chest improve if he stopped going heavy on military press, focused on the laterals and upright rows instead. i bet the reason why his chest lags behind his shoulders and arms is because both play a big role in his chest movements. if he could weaken his front delts it might allow him to use more pecs, and possibly once he figures out how to hit chest without too much delt involvement he can start going heavy on presses and keep the chest up. thats what im currently trying to do, and its working albeit slowly.
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hmm dunno about that tbombz... it comes down to genetics and how each individual is built .. i think no matter how evan presses his arms and delts will always over power his chest
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you fuckers are all wrong. The strongest bbers in history
Ronnie
Columbo
FRANK SEPE
kevin levrone
and to the idiot who said Sean Ray...ahaaha that guy barely smith pressed 275 in vids I saw
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hmm dunno about that tbombz... it comes down to genetics and how each individual is built .. i think no matter how evan presses his arms and delts will always over power his chest
i dont know, my delts always overpowered my chest on chest exercises. stopped doing presses for shoulders and started going heavy on bench.. and im starting to get solid contractions thorughout my entire pec now.
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...and btw Steve Kuclo is stronger than Evan. I witnessed Steve benching 5 plates raw Evan barely did 405 few times and/ squated 405 for 30 kuclo did
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dunno ive seen a vid of evan benching and he repped 405 easily
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you fuckers are all wrong. The strongest bbers in history
Ronnie
Columbo
FRANK SEPE
kevin levrone
and to the idiot who said Sean Ray...ahaaha that guy barely smith pressed 275 in vids I saw
Levrone? elaborate please...
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Levrone? elaborate please...
repping five plates on bench aint enough?
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also forgot 405 behind the neck presses on the smith machine for reps....100 pound dumbell curls...315 close grip benches with his hands literally 4 inches apart for 10 easy reps. Never have I seen a bber lift such big weights so effortless..
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also forgot 405 behind the neck presses on the smith machine for reps....100 pound dumbell curls...315 close grip benches with his hands literally 4 inches apart for 10 easy reps. Never have I seen a bber lift such big weights so effortless..
on top of the that kevin doesn't even look like the "strong body builder" type he looks more like the pretty boy type who doesnt work very hard ie (chick,milos,cormier,jay) which in turn makes it that much more impressive
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you fuckers are all wrong. The strongest bbers in history
Ronnie
Columbo
FRANK SEPE
kevin levrone
and to the idiot who said Sean Ray...ahaaha that guy barely smith pressed 275 in vids I saw
Frank Sepe? Seriously????? (I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but was he elite strong???)
And yes I laughed at Shawn Ray too, he has even admitted that some chicks at the gym would lift heavier weights than him.
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ShWn is strong YouTube him there is a clip of him doing 160 or 180 dumbells close to a competion for paper reps
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kevin (any pressing movement looked real easy) levrone
perfect form, all the way strong poo pusher
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I think Kai is stronger on bench than Levrone, at least from the videos I remember seeing.
But yeah Kevin's BTN press is insane.
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on top of the that kevin doesn't even look like the "strong body builder" type he looks more like the pretty boy type who doesnt work very hard ie (chick,milos,cormier,jay) which in turn makes it that much more impressive
Sorry but Cormeir was one of the strongest bodybuilders around in his prime.
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ShWn is strong YouTube him there is a clip of him doing 160 or 180 dumbells close to a competion for paper reps
And when you think of it, around that time he would compete at 205....people don't give Shawn credit, he moved weight
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I think Kai is stronger on bench than Levrone, at least from the videos I remember seeing.
But yeah Kevin's BTN press is insane.
No way is Kai even close... On presses he put five plTes on the bar oscars hand was on the bar from rep one... So he didn't really press it...
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Sorry but Cormeir was one of the strongest bodybuilders around in his prime.
got any links ?
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No links needed,I know what I`m talking about.
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No way is Kai even close... On presses he put five plTes on the bar oscars hand was on the bar from rep one... So he didn't really press it...
::)..Here we go with this shit again.
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got any links ?
there are no real links, just mag articles and other bodybuilders co-signing that he was a strong mofo on pushing movements
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Made 315 look easy went waaay past failure
I think he can do 405
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/in-the-trenches/3280-ifbb-pro-evan-centopani-trains-shoulders-.html
you shoudl do 315 military press when you are 220-230lb no problemos if you are strong bodybuilder,,all gh and slin ,,slin RUINED ABSOLITRLY RUINED BODYBUILDING FORO EVER
gh15 approved
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there are no real links, just mag articles and other bodybuilders co-signing that he was a strong mofo on pushing movements
BFTO 2001 he reps 405 on flat and incline easy
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BFTO 2001 he reps 405 on flat and incline easy
I think there are some other BFTOs as well with Chris Cormier in them...
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No way is Kai even close... On presses he put five plTes on the bar oscars hand was on the bar from rep one... So he didn't really press it...
Agreed. If you can move the weight, why does the spotter need to spot u from the first to the last rep...especially since KG "benched 500lbs as an 18yr old natural"
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Exactly if a bench requires help from the first rep
A. Your ego training
B. You can't bench it
C. Help is supposed to come at failure so if your gettinghelp from rep one you failed before you started simple.
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imo johnnie is not even in the top 15 strongest bbers of all time
i mean look at that vid branch made him look weak
of the top of my head a list of bbers stronger than johnnie
coleman
levrone
shawn
cormier
branch
efferding
bertil
centopani
fatpanda
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I agree with that list 100%.
"1"
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someone on this thread that kai was stronger than levrone ::)
kai green supposedly repping 5 plates
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Kevin levrone really benching 5 plates
also bear in mind according to MD kai benched 500 before he was 18 and
squatted 800lb before he was 18 yet here he is in the video below in awe of ronnie squatting 800lbs
something he did when he was 18
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i'm more impressed with his views on cock rotation in the 17th century
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kettle bells are the true measure of strength
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someone on this thread that kai was stronger than levrone ::)
kai green supposedly repping 5 plates
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Kevin levrone really benching 5 plates
also bear in mind according to MD kai benched 500 before he was 18 and
squatted 800lb before he was 18 yet here he is in the video below in awe of ronnie squatting 800lbs
something he did when he was 18
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No links needed,I know what I`m talking about.
okay spaghetti arms , what ever you say
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also forgot 405 behind the neck presses on the smith machine for reps....100 pound dumbell curls...315 close grip benches with his hands literally 4 inches apart for 10 easy reps. Never have I seen a bber lift such big weights so effortless..
I know his chest and upper body was ridiculously strong for a guy his size. Never seen him squat or deadlift though. I know he could grind out some curls with 75lb dumbbells, but never the 100s.
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yeah he did the 100s fairly easily in his vid
very strong presser too
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Wiggs, JOJ is very strong on the reads and squats, that is where he makes up most in his totals in meets. He is good on bench, odd how Branch is stronger than JOJ on the bench, but JOJ has probably the best chest in the pros today.
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whats johhnys squat
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yeah he did the 100s fairly easily in his vid
very strong presser too
He did? I remember him doing the 75s and then complaining about how heavy they were lol. Maybe hammer curls with 100s i guess...?
Very few bodybuilders can curl 100bls+
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no not hammer curls 100lb regular curls... good form no problem
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100 dumbell curls
there you go
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100 dumbell curls
there you go
Wow never seen that video thanx. Didn't know he could do that its crazy heavy for a guy with such a small frame.
And I dont think ive ever seen any other IFBB pro do that either that kind of weight is usually handled by the bigger sized men and power athletes.
Pretty sure Kevin was more drugs than anything though but pushed the limits of his genetic potential doing it. What makes him even better is that hes a decent athlete with awesome speed and agility so props to him.
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Wow never seen that video thanx. Didn't know he could do that its crazy heavy for a guy with such a small frame.
And I dont think ive ever seen any other IFBB pro do that either that kind of weight is usually handled by the bigger sized men and power athletes.
Pretty sure Kevin was more drugs than anything though but pushed the limits of his genetic potential doing it. What makes him even better is that hes a decent athlete with awesome speed and agility so props to him.
I remember in BFTO 01 or so -- when he had his own gym - he was shruggin like 8 plates a side then did behind the neck press with like 315
ghey music srry
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I remember in BFTO 01 or so -- when he had his own gym - he was shruggin like 8 plates a side then did behind the neck press with like 315
M3 video, he was doing the roll shrug, I've seen that blonde dude thar was yelling at Kev in the bench video---I think he competed in the Mr. Maryland contest
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M3 video, he was doing the roll shrug, I've seen that blonde dude thar was yelling at Kev in the bench video---I think he competed in the Mr. Maryland contest
does kev still have that gym
it was in some weird town by baltimore or somethg? no? glen burnie?
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does kev still have that gym
it was in some weird town by baltimore or somethg? no? glen burnie?
Not that I know of, it's in a location of Millersville/ Glen Burnie, MD---near a Super Walmart. Yes, it is outside of Baltimore...
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Not that I know of, it's in a location of Millersville/ Glen Burnie, MD---near a Super Walmart. Yes, it is outside of Baltimore...
I remember he had that NSX and they went and ate italian food BEFORE he worked out
the gym was all huge and had his name on it
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That's complete bs about Shawn saying girls in the gym lifted more than him ::) ...I've seen Shawn Ray's video the final countdown and the dude trains hard... he went up to 150lb db's on the incline for i think about 8-10 perfect reps... at a bodyweight of 215lbs... he said when he's heavier in the offseason he would work with the 180's. He's not the strongest but he does train hard and is fairly strong.
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That's complete bs about Shawn saying girls in the gym lifted more than him ::) ...I've seen Shawn Ray's video the final countdown and the dude trains hard... he went up to 150lb db's on the incline for i think about 8-10 perfect reps... at a bodyweight of 215lbs... he said when he's heavier in the offseason he would work with the 180's. He's not the strongest but he does train hard and is fairly strong.
Can he bend quarters in half and throw an anvil across a room too?
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bump
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I remember he had that NSX and they went and ate italian food BEFORE he worked out
the gym was all huge and had his name on it
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His training partner was quite amusing.
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strength also go up and down depending on how much painkillers and stimulant the bodybuilder uses,, many bodybuuilders they have painkiller years and lift tremendous poundage during this limited time but thsi can not be maintained for so long because body start to self destructr,, many many get hooked,,
some can do it in very planned way and stop and then at certain age lift lighter but still intense,,
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strength also go up and down depending on how much painkillers and stimulant the bodybuilder uses,, many bodybuuilders they have painkiller years and lift tremendous poundage during this limited time but thsi can not be maintained for so long because body start to self destructr,, many many get hooked,,
some can do it in very planned way and stop and then at certain age lift lighter but still intense,,
The guys who always have been strong through hard work and genetics, usually stay that way. Hardcore juiceheads dont maintain strength when they go off the gear.
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The guys who always have been strong through hard work and genetics, usually stay that way. Hardcore juiceheads dont maintain strength when they go off the gear.
no,, it is not that simple my friend,, there is strong and then there is very very strong,, many guys they will only do a certain poundage if using certain painkiller and stimulant,, even if solid foundation and strong tendon
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no,, it is not that simple my friend,, there is strong and then there is very very strong,, many guys they will only do a certain poundage if using certain painkiller and stimulant,, even if solid foundation and strong tendon
I guess drugs do wonders if used incorrectly lol
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I guess drugs do wonders if used incorrectly lol
natural and strong with strong tendon amd and muscle,, this is real strength,, but in bodybuilding,, the drugs will weaken your tendon and muscle even as muscle get stronger,, the more muscle you get the weaker you get in certain ways,, even ronnie with super tendon paid the price,, most will pay much much earlier,, painkiller years are very specific years and let you lift tremendous poundages for a couple or a few years then it go downhill,, sadly many continue with painkillers afterwards too