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Anyone?
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Anybodys taxes have gone up?
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Obama has taxed peple in ObamaCare. But that is not what the real tax is that Obama is delivering to us.
Instead of direct taxes, Obama is being far more coy about it and doig something Far Far far Far worse, that is, driving up the cost of the basic living for the middle class via forced inflation which is an indirect tax.
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Obama has taxed peple in ObamaCare. But that is not what the real tax is that Obama is delivering to us.
Instead of direct taxes, Obama is being far more coy about it and doig something Far Far far Far worse, that is, driving up the cost of the basic living for the middle class via forced inflation which is an indirect tax.
EXACTLY!! He is taxing industries, which in turn pay for those taxes by JACKING UP PRICES on food and services. You think it's a coincidence that a dozen eggs costs nearly $2 these days?
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Okay how much did a dozen eggs cost 2 years ago?
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If i want economic advice i would listen to Peter Schiff and if possible i would vote for someone like Christie or Ron Paul so im def not a liberal guy.
What i despise though are stupid people who say stuff they heard from others like its the absolute truth. But in reality they just howl along with the pack afraid to be different. Cowards.
Watching Fox news and then come on here screaming like you actually have any knowledge. Pathetic
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
- Oscar Wilde
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If i want economic advice i would listen to Peter Schiff and if possible i would vote for someone like Christie or Ron Paul so im def not a liberal guy.
What i despise though are stupid people who say stuff they heard from others like its the absolute truth. But in reality they just howl along with the pack afraid to be different. Cowards.
Watching Fox news and then come on here screaming like you actually have any knowledge. Pathetic
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
- Oscar Wilde
::) ::) ::)
Just chalk this up to you not knowing what the hell you are talking about.
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Watch this and listen.
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Tell me one thing in the piece i just wrote that is not true and back it up
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Watch this and listen.
You are not listening. Im not talking about Obamas economic policies witch i think suck. We agree on this.
I hear people on this board all the time claiming their taxes have gone up but not one has responded with a figure. How can that be?
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Okay how much did a dozen eggs cost 2 years ago?
Where I live, it was anywhere from $0.99 to a little over a dollar (and at some stores, you can get JUMBO eggs for that price).
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So the prices of eggs have almost doubled in the past 2 years?
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So the prices of eggs have almost doubled in the past 2 years?
Depends on where you live? On average, it's gone from $1.34 to $1.65
http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/pricebasket.html
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Milk eggs and bread doubled. As for many other things, the amount you get now compared to 2 years ago has gone down, but the price is the same or slightly higher.
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Milk eggs and bread doubled. As for many other things, the amount you get now compared to 2 years ago has gone down, but the price is the same or slightly higher.
Obama is enacting policies INTENDED TO SKYROCKET the basic costs of living. That is the same as a tax since you are left with less in your pocket.
HealthCare - check
Oil and Energy - check
Food - check
AND YES, ITS INTENTIONAL
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Health Care - check
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Even this Demo admits here is ZERO cost control in BamaCare which will cost people more $ $ $ $ .
So whether you call it a tax or not, the end result of AssBama's polices are the same - more money to the gov, less money for thse who work.
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'bamas fault
Retail food prices, however, have risen by 5.5 percent in the first 10 months of 2007, according to the Labor Department, and energy has increased by 12.3 percent over the same period. Continuing the upward trend since early 2002, petroleum-based energy costs increased at a 20.6 percent annual rate in 2007.
Prices of certain goods have risen drastically. Milk prices have risen nearly 20 percent so far this year; the price of eggs has jumped by more than 42 percent since October 2006. Likewise, a study published December 5 from the University of Washington found fresh fruit and vegetable prices have risen by 20 percent in the past two years.
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EXACTLY!! He is taxing industries, which in turn pay for those taxes by JACKING UP PRICES on food and services. You think it's a coincidence that a dozen eggs costs nearly $2 these days?
feel free to show us how the price of eggs went up because of the health care legislation
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/S4Gk2OW8lQI/AAAAAAAAHjk/aRWUnKKYj6U/s1600/InflationJan2010.jpg)
Core CPI definition:A method for measuring core inflation. It is the consumer price index (CPI) excluding energy and food prices. There are many other methods for calculating core inflation, but this is the most popular measurement. This method has become the most widely used because food and energy prices can be very volatile, and this wide amount of movement would unfairly bias the measure of inflation.
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EXCLUDING FOOD AD ENERGY!!!!!!
ha ha ha ha you moron!
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Some basic facts:
* Obama has passed 25 separate tax cuts.
* Obama’s stimulus package included $300 billion in middle class tax cuts — one of the largest in history.
* The recent healthcare reform law includes tax credits and savings for small businesses and working people.
* Unlike President Bush’s 2001 tax cuts, which went to the wealthiest 2.2%, President Obama’s tax cuts overwhelmingly benefit working and middle class families — 95% of all Americans.
Here are some of the new tax credits available through the Recovery Act alone that you may be eligible for:
* The Making Work Pay tax credit – Ninety-five percent of working families are already receiving the Recovery Act’s Making Work Pay tax credit of $400 for an individual or $800 for married couples filing jointly in their 2009 paychecks – and will continue to see these benefits in 2010.
* Tax credits for college expenses – Families and students are eligible for up to $2,500 in tax savings under the American Opportunity Credit as well as enhanced benefits under 529 college savings plans, which help families and students pay for college expenses.
* The Homebuyers tax credit – Homebuyers can get a credit – up to $8,000 for first-time home buyers and up to $6,500 for upgrade homebuyers – for homes under contract by April 30, 2010 and purchased by June 30, 2010 under the Homebuyer tax credit. Over 1.7 million households have already taken advantage of the First Time Homebuyers tax credit.
* Tax credits for energy efficient renovations – Taxpayers are eligible for up to $1,500 in tax credits for making energy-efficient improvements to their homes, such as adding insulation and installing energy efficient windows.
* The vehicle sales tax deduction – Taxpayers can deduct the state and local sales taxes they paid for new vehicles purchased from Feb. 17, 2009 through Dec. 31, 2009 under the vehicle sales tax deduction.
* Expanded family tax credits – Moderate income families with children may be eligible for an increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit and the additional Child Tax Credit.
* Tax-free unemployment benefits – Thanks to the Recovery Act, individuals who received unemployment insurance in 2009 do not have to pay taxes on the first $2,400 of such earnings.
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Problem is that the regulatory uncertainty as well as th skyrocketing costs of health care due to bamacare offset any of those cuts
Just sayin.
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EXCLUDING FOOD AD ENERGY!!!!!!
ha ha ha ha you moron!
I put that definition there for a reason, not by accident, dipshit. The only moron is YOU, PEA BRAIN. ::) You spend all day posting on getbig and masturbating, I analyze economic data for a living.
There is a reason economists utilize Core CPI when evaluating real inflation:
This method has become the most widely used because food and energy prices can be very volatile, and this wide amount of movement would unfairly bias the measure of inflation.
Are you going to blame Obama for the fluctuation in the price of oil and corn? If so, what executive order can a president enact to immediately alleviate this problem?
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Yes, Obama is greatly contributing to oil price inflaton. He is not the ol cause, but he is definately making the situation worse ON PURPOSE!
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I put that definition there for a reason, not by accident, dipshit. The only moron is YOU, PEA BRAIN. ::) You spend all day posting on getbig and masturbating, I analyze economic data for a living.
There is a reason economists utilize Core CPI when evaluating real inflation:
This method has become the most widely used because food and energy prices can be very volatile, and this wide amount of movement would unfairly bias the measure of inflation.
Are you going to blame Obama for the fluctuation in the price of oil and corn? If so, what executive order can a president enact to immediately alleviate this problem?
You said Gold would tank a year ago. Ha ha ha ha ha what bullshit data are you reviewing? www.whitehouse.gov?
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Problem is that the regulatory uncertainty as well as th skyrocketing costs of health care due to bamacare offset any of those cuts
Just sayin.
Looks to me like healthcare costs have been skyrocketing for some time, prior to any so-called "Obamacare."
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Health_care_cost_rise.PNG)
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Yes, Obama is greatly contributing to oil price inflaton. He is not the ol cause, but he is definately making the situation worse ON PURPOSE!
How so, PEA BRAIN?
You said Gold would tank a year ago. Ha ha ha ha ha what bullshit data are you reviewing? www.whitehouse.gov?
Show me exactly what I stated about gold a year ago, PEA BRAIN.
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Looks to me like healthcare costs have been skyrocketing for some time, prior to any so-called "Obamacare."
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Health_care_cost_rise.PNG)
Yes they have, and instead of dealing with the economy, bama and the dems did health care, which did nothing to ring down the premiuims and costs to businesses.
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Yes they have, and instead of dealing with the economy, bama and the dems did health care, which did nothing to ring down the premiuims and costs to businesses.
I thought what helps the economy are tax cuts, ala Reaganomics and the "trickle down" theory. ???
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I thought what helps the economy are tax cuts, ala Reaganomics and the "trickle down" theory. ???
What tax cuts? All they did is extend what was already in place.
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I thought what helps the economy are tax cuts, ala Reaganomics and the "trickle down" theory. ???
Did i say that?
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What tax cuts? All they did is extend what was already in place.
::)
Some basic facts:
* Obama has passed 25 separate tax cuts.
* Obama’s stimulus package included $300 billion in middle class tax cuts — one of the largest in history.
* The recent healthcare reform law includes tax credits and savings for small businesses and working people.
* Unlike President Bush’s 2001 tax cuts, which went to the wealthiest 2.2%, President Obama’s tax cuts overwhelmingly benefit working and middle class families — 95% of all Americans.
Here are some of the new tax credits available through the Recovery Act alone that you may be eligible for:
* The Making Work Pay tax credit – Ninety-five percent of working families are already receiving the Recovery Act’s Making Work Pay tax credit of $400 for an individual or $800 for married couples filing jointly in their 2009 paychecks – and will continue to see these benefits in 2010.
* Tax credits for college expenses – Families and students are eligible for up to $2,500 in tax savings under the American Opportunity Credit as well as enhanced benefits under 529 college savings plans, which help families and students pay for college expenses.
* The Homebuyers tax credit – Homebuyers can get a credit – up to $8,000 for first-time home buyers and up to $6,500 for upgrade homebuyers – for homes under contract by April 30, 2010 and purchased by June 30, 2010 under the Homebuyer tax credit. Over 1.7 million households have already taken advantage of the First Time Homebuyers tax credit.
* Tax credits for energy efficient renovations – Taxpayers are eligible for up to $1,500 in tax credits for making energy-efficient improvements to their homes, such as adding insulation and installing energy efficient windows.
* The vehicle sales tax deduction – Taxpayers can deduct the state and local sales taxes they paid for new vehicles purchased from Feb. 17, 2009 through Dec. 31, 2009 under the vehicle sales tax deduction.
* Expanded family tax credits – Moderate income families with children may be eligible for an increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit and the additional Child Tax Credit.
* Tax-free unemployment benefits – Thanks to the Recovery Act, individuals who received unemployment insurance in 2009 do not have to pay taxes on the first $2,400 of such earnings.
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Did i say that?
You don't agree? ???
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You don't agree? ???
No completely.
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Looks like a bunch of "credits" to me, but hey it only cost us 700 + billion ::)
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Looks like a bunch of "credits" to me, but hey it only cost us 700 + billion ::)
$300 billion of which were middle class TAX CUTS, not "credits." Sorry this hurts your feelings and does not fit the FOX News narrative.
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No completely.
Interesting. I guess Reagan wasn't so great for the economy in your eyes. :o
What is the best way to stimulate the economy in an economic downturn according to you, PB?
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$300 billion of which were middle class TAX CUTS, not "credits." Sorry this hurts your feelings and does not fit the FOX News narrative.
Bullshit, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Those of us that actually have to work to earn a living know the real deal, not societal leaches like like yourself. How's that section 8 housing working out for you?
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Interesting. I guess Reagan wasn't so great for the economy in your eyes. :o
What is the best way to stimulate the economy in an economic downturn according to you, PB?
He was great - but the theory of trickle down is not all that perfect. hoever, compared to the crap from the left, its far better.
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fed. taxes; not at all.
didn't have to pay these last two years.
and tx doesn't have a state income tax.
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Bullshit, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Those of us that actually have to work to earn a living know the real deal, not societal leaches like like yourself. How's that section 8 housing working out for you?
So how much have your taxes gone up then?
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So how much have your taxes gone up then?
They haven't. Thanks to BUSH'S tax legislation.
Now, how about the rising cost of food, gasoline, insurance premiums and that 8% UE, I mean 9.5% UE (which in reality is about 20%)?
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According to the posted transcript from Benny Obama wants to cut taxes for the middle/lower class even more than Bush?
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So how much have your taxes gone up then?
Federal? they haven't, but only because the tax cuts that were already in place didn't sunset. State - 67% thanks to the lame duck fucking democrats. Cost of living well that is kinda hard to calculate, but I would say food on the average is costing about $45 more per visit to the grocery store, gas prices up........
So lets go through the list:
Making work pay : $400.00 - $7.70 a week, wow in a month I might be able to afford to take the family to a movie, no popcorn of course.
Tax Credit for college expenses: Already graduated college, kinds in middle school, not to mention the fact that the government took over the student loan program - wash
Home buyers tax credit : Hmmm already bough my house, guess I would have to buy another and take on another mortgage to benefit from that ::) Oh wait its only for first time home buyers
Tax credit for energy efficient renovations : So I would have to go out and spend an assload of money to get a $1500 tax credit? No thanks.
Cash for clunkers : Well hell lets just go out and buy anther car ::) Oh damn that expired
Earned income tax credit expansion : Giving more tax breaks to those who get all the tax they pay in at the end of the year, so how is that going to work, they get more back than the tax they pay in? Sounds logical to me ::)
Tax free unemployment "benefits" : Its at what 99 weeks now, how long can we afford to pay people not to work?
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According to the posted transcript from Benny Obama wants to cut taxes for the middle/lower class even more than Bush?
Really? Where is the tax cut? It is a bunch of credits that you may or may not qualify for, most of which involve the person having to spend 10x what the tax credit is.
What are you a 240 gimmick?
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I put that definition there for a reason, not by accident, dipshit. The only moron is YOU, PEA BRAIN. ::) You spend all day posting on getbig and masturbating, I analyze economic data for a living.
There is a reason economists utilize Core CPI when evaluating real inflation:
This method has become the most widely used because food and energy prices can be very volatile, and this wide amount of movement would unfairly bias the measure of inflation.
Are you going to blame Obama for the fluctuation in the price of oil and corn? If so, what executive order can a president enact to immediately alleviate this problem?
LOL i call bull shit on that, you might be yet another gimmick of mons anus and NT if you want to go that route...
alot of the shit ive seen you spout off on here tell me you have no idea about the majority of things economic of finance related
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Looks like a bunch of "credits" to me, but hey it only cost us 700 + billion ::)
What cost 700 billion.. give me the pie chart breakdown.. please
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What cost 700 billion.. give me the pie chart breakdown.. please
The Stimulus, and if you want a pie chart break down find it yourself
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The Stimulus, and if you want a pie chart break down find it yourself
lmao.. the stimulus..LMAO!!!!!!!!
That was a good one.. na for real... do you know what the breakdown is?
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Stim bill cost 868 billion.
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lets see
gas 3.50
big mac meal 6$
health care up
real estate not guna go down as it should have
wars going on
no brake on deficit spending
raising debt ceiling
no brake on fed fannie freddy that caused 2008
yep i will take sweet revenge on obama in 2012
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none...
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