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Title: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 05:50:33 PM
Ok fellas, I hate to admit this, but I have to swallow my pride and admit that I was wrong when I said that "diet means FUCK ALL" and so I would like to ask for protein guidelines for my fat-loss diet. I plan on eating 1500 cals per day and a minimum of 100 carb grams a day, so my question is, how many protein grams do I need daily? I weigh about a buck 75
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: DK II on January 21, 2011, 05:52:30 PM
Ok fellas, I hate to admit this, but I have to swallow my pride and admit that I was wrong when I said that "diet means FUCK ALL" and so I would like to ask for protein guidelines for my fat-loss diet. I plan on eating 1500 cals per day and a minimum of 100 carb grams a day, so my question is, how many protein grams do I need daily? I weigh about a buck 75

Thanks god you have come to reason.

As much protein as possible, simply aim for maximum 60g of fat, 100g carbs and fill up the rest of the calories left with protein.

Read this:

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/proprejudice.htm

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supplementation/prosuper.htm
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Schmoe Buster on January 21, 2011, 05:53:06 PM
at least 200g, but get most of it from whole foods not just shakes ;)
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 06:12:22 PM
Thanks fellas ;) And DK, I should make sure that I get at least 100 carb grams daily, right? If I get 100 carbs grams, and 200 pro grams daily, that will leave me with about 35 fat grams daily. And I agree that the protein should come from food not shakes.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: wes on January 21, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
HIP HIP HOORAY !!!!!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: DK II on January 22, 2011, 02:41:58 AM
Thanks fellas ;) And DK, I should make sure that I get at least 100 carb grams daily, right? If I get 100 carbs grams, and 200 pro grams daily, that will leave me with about 35 fat grams daily. And I agree that the protein should come from food not shakes.

personally, i would go even lower with the carbs for 4 days (~50g) with more fat, then have a high carb day every four days.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: _bruce_ on January 22, 2011, 02:51:51 AM
Coach may chime in soon.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 03:48:30 AM
Shit DK! You can handle 4 days in a row at 50 grams? After the 3rd day, I'm near catotonic-like lol But I make 3 days in a row at 50, so maybe I will try to work it in my diet schedule.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: splank on January 22, 2011, 04:24:15 AM
Thanks god you have come to reason.

As much protein as possible, simply aim for maximum 60g of fat, 100g carbs and fill up the rest of the calories left with protein.

Read this:

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/proprejudice.htm

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supplementation/prosuper.htm


 I love me some carbs....way to much!! I couldn't imagine dieting and only eating sub 2k calories with max 100 carbs.....makes me cringe to even think about. If I would do that,  would lose weight so damn fast my head would spin. I have to eat a lot...I mean alot of food to maintain my weight.

 Maybe someday I will do the diet thing just to try to burn some of the extra body fat I am carrying, but right now, I am thankful that I can get away without worrying too much about my diet.

 good luck DJ!
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: DK II on January 22, 2011, 04:25:11 AM
Shit DK! You can handle 4 days in a row at 50 grams? After the 3rd day, I'm near catotonic-like lol But I make 3 days in a row at 50, so maybe I will try to work it in my diet schedule.

Lots of green tea and coffee definitely help a lot.  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: wes on January 22, 2011, 04:37:43 AM
Go back and read my carb cycling article dj.....all you need to know is in there!!
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 04:39:37 AM
Yeah, my good friend and ally black coffee, which makes me even more manical and obsessive than I normally am lol
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: devilsmile on January 22, 2011, 04:45:28 AM
yeah dj, it's good you came back to reality. Even if one has a good meatbolism, diet DOES mean fuck all  8)

medium carbs, low/med calories and high protein

i don't care what everyone sayes, but cutting down carbs fucking WORKS... it just plain works, period. Lose carbs = get fucking ripped  8), sure you'll be hungry but it means the shits working, it's like a guarantee card.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: DK II on January 22, 2011, 04:48:23 AM
If carb craving get too bad, i eat a handful of almonds, chew them as long as you can.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 05:09:13 AM
If carb craving get too bad, i eat a handful of almonds, chew them as long as you can.
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Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: newmom on January 22, 2011, 05:19:05 AM
HIP HIP HOORAY !!!!!!!!!   ;D

LMAO
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 05:25:24 AM
Honestly devil, I can handle the hunger on lo carb/lo cal diet, but what I can't handle is the braindead/catatonic feeling it brings to me.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: newmom on January 22, 2011, 05:27:22 AM
Honestly devil, I can handle the hunger on lo carb/lo cal diet, but what I can't handle is the braindead/catatonic feeling it brings to me.

you get used to it
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Bam-bam on January 22, 2011, 06:21:46 AM
Thanks god you have come to reason.

As much protein as possible, simply aim for maximum 60g of fat, 100g carbs and fill up the rest of the calories left with protein.

Read this:

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/proprejudice.htm

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supplementation/prosuper.htm

good articles, homo  ;D
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Meso_z on January 22, 2011, 06:30:20 AM
If carb craving get too bad, i eat a handful of almonds, chew them as long as you can.
I cant think of anything gayer than that...  ;D
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: JP_RC on January 22, 2011, 11:20:37 AM
Listen to what no patience told you before, 1 gr/lb of bodyweight. You don't need more than that.

Carbs depend on your metabolism and how much you can tolerate, if you can get results with 200 gr a day or more then why cut them off?
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dyslexic on January 22, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
I can't beleive the incessant repetition on here...


Same fucking questions over and over and over and over. Damn.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 11:39:25 AM
1 gram per lean pound of bodyweight, or per pound of total bodyweight? Also, wouldn't protein needs go up on a lo-carb diet since carbs have a protein sparing effect?
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Disgusted on January 22, 2011, 11:41:33 AM
at least 200g, but get most of it from whole foods not just shakes ;)

Yip yip.  :)
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: che on January 22, 2011, 11:42:25 AM
500g of protein a day , 0 fat, 0 carbs  don't brush your teeth
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: JP_RC on January 22, 2011, 11:44:15 AM
1 gram per lean pound of bodyweight, or per pound of total bodyweight? Also, wouldn't protein needs go up on a lo-carb diet since carbs have a protein sparing effect?

Yes 1 gr per lean lb of bodyweight. Why are you going to do a low carb diet? Is your response not very good to them?

Remember what No Patience posted, carbs actually preserve muscle better than excess protein for a lot of people, its true.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 11:51:12 AM
Ok JP_RC, you make a good point. I'm basically trying to figure out how many cals to eat per day, and how much protein that I need (minimum). I remember Bill Phillips said to consume not less that bodyweight times 12 if one is cutting cals, so maybe I should use that figure as my baseline instead of 1500 cals?
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Master Blaster on January 22, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
500g of protein a day , 0 fat, 0 carbs  don't brush your teeth

 ;D
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: JP_RC on January 22, 2011, 11:55:18 AM
That's a good idea.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: MCWAY on January 23, 2011, 08:17:50 AM
Ok fellas, I hate to admit this, but I have to swallow my pride and admit that I was wrong when I said that "diet means FUCK ALL" and so I would like to ask for protein guidelines for my fat-loss diet. I plan on eating 1500 cals per day and a minimum of 100 carb grams a day, so my question is, how many protein grams do I need daily? I weigh about a buck 75

If you plan on eating 1500 calories per day, plan on remaining 175 lbs. But your bodyfat may remain the same or increase.

As far as protein goes, shoot for about 200 grams of protein. Taken over 6 meals, that's rougly 34 grams per meal.

Carbs? Go about 200 grams of carbs. Try six meals: Three regular meals and three shakes, with the third shake to be consumed post-workout (assuming you train late-afternoon/early-evening).

If you eat too little food, your body will munch up your muscle and leave the fat in place.

Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: Bobby on January 23, 2011, 10:36:19 AM
If you plan on eating 1500 calories per day, plan on remaining 175 lbs. But your bodyfat may remain the same or increase.

As far as protein goes, shoot for about 200 grams of protein. Taken over 6 meals, that's rougly 34 grams per meal.

Carbs? Go about 200 grams of carbs. Try six meals: Three regular meals and three shakes, with the third shake to be consumed post-workout (assuming you train late-afternoon/early-evening).

If you eat too little food, your body will munch up your muscle and leave the fat in place.



This

how many women have you heard that eat 3 sammiches a day, and can't get rid of their bellyfat...
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: dj181 on January 23, 2011, 10:48:29 AM
Ok, so how about calorie cycling? For example, 3 days at 1500 cals, and the next 2 days at 2500 cals, as an example. I know that I'm gonna catch alot heat for this, but back in the day I did the cybergenics thing, and that diet they planned out was actually somewhat effective, 3 days with calories at BMR, and then 4 days with calories at BMR*2 FYI, BMR=lean bodyweight in kilos times 24
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: wes on January 23, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
Ok, so how about calorie cycling? For example, 3 days at 1500 cals, and the next 2 days at 2500 cals, as an example. I know that I'm gonna catch alot heat for this, but back in the day I did the cybergenics thing, and that diet they planned out was actually somewhat effective, 3 days with calories at BMR, and then 4 days with calories at BMR*2 FYI, BMR=lean bodyweight in kilos times 24
Christ,you`re overanalyzing things in a big way.

Just do it..... and be consistant as hell.
Title: Re: Protein help
Post by: johnnynoname on January 23, 2011, 10:51:30 AM
Christ,you`re overanalyzing things in a big way.

Just do it..... and be consistant as hell.


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