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Title: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 01:59:36 PM
even if its free range or organic. the thing is living animal/mamal/human beings all produce hormones. Intelligent people know the side effects of hormones and steroids even in small dosages. That chunk of chicken breast or that slab of steak is a dosage of steroids wether you want to ignore truth or not its up to you. there is no telling how much steroids is equivelant to a dose of roids but one can be intellectual and take a wild guess that maybe you should become a vegetarian and save yourself from the effects of consuming steroids. If you ate a chunk of human you will be consuming some steroids, take great care in your choices from here on out folks, this is the true awakening
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: US MUSL on January 22, 2011, 02:00:45 PM
Cool, I'm eating two chicken breasts as a type!!
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:02:58 PM
Cool, I'm eating two chicken breasts as a type!!

yah take a look at branch warren you want to age super fast like him correct and bald faster than ever?
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 22, 2011, 02:04:58 PM
even if its free range or organic. the thing is living animal/mamal/human beings all produce hormones. Intelligent people know the side effects of hormones and steroids even in small dosages. That chunk of chicken breast or that slab of steak is a dosage of steroids wether you want to ignore truth or not its up to you. there is no telling how much steroids is equivelant to a dose of roids but one can be intellectual and take a wild guess that maybe you should become a vegetarian and save yourself from the effects of consuming steroids. If you ate a chunk of human you will be consuming some steroids, take great care in your choices from here on out folks, this is the true awakening
Good stuff right there now how do you feel about fish? They are cold blooded and probably no steroids involved in the flesh unless a bodybuilder injected them.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: G_Thang on January 22, 2011, 02:05:11 PM
is sniffing smelling salt equal to sniffing paint remover?

you high today  ;)
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
Good stuff right there now how do you feel about fish? They are cold blooded and probably no steroids involved in the flesh unless a bodybuilder injected them.

they still have sex hormones just like other creatures
Title: Eating a piece
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 02:08:48 PM
Smoking ages peeps Falcon. I will soon be 37, and when I hit da clubs and tell da 18 to 21 year old honey dat I'm 28, they by it with no questions asked ;)
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:10:02 PM
is sniffing smelling salt equal to sniffing paint remover?

you high today  ;)

teasing another man for the sole purpose of attention is very non falconesque
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 22, 2011, 02:11:06 PM
they still have sex hormones just like other creatures
So looks like fish are looking for fine ass hoes too.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
who thinks a small medium or large dose of hormones is healthy over a life time, assuming you eat meat everyday?
Title: Re: Eating a piece
Post by: mass 04 on January 22, 2011, 02:11:54 PM
Smoking ages peeps Falcon. I will soon be 37, and when I hit da clubs and tell da 18 to 21 year old honey dat I'm 28, they by it with no questions asked ;)
you got da mid life crisis.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: US MUSL on January 22, 2011, 02:13:27 PM
yah take a look at branch warren you want to age super fast like him correct and bald faster than ever?

I'm 47 and still have a full head of hair. Even though some including yourself are against eating meat, I have eaten a healthy diet for most of my life.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:13:39 PM
So looks like fish are looking for fine ass hoes too.

the thing is consuming hormones will shut down your natural production or make it less

this is why eating meat really sucks because it depletes our natural abilities to produce hormones
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Alexander D on January 22, 2011, 02:14:16 PM
yah take a look at branch warren you want to age super fast like him correct and bald faster than ever?


Yes Branch is unhealthy because of his diet... has nothing to do with the monster amount of drugs he takes LOL Incidentally, Branch is known to never eat vegetables... Falcon you should have a word with him about that bro!
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:14:38 PM
I'm 47 and still have a full head of hair. Even though some including yourself are against eating meat, I have eaten a healthy diet for most of my life.

you are definity a stud, the exception to the rule

but perhaps you would be healthier without a daily dose of hormones/steroids from meat
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:15:58 PM

Yes Branch is unhealthy because of his diet... has nothing to do with the monster amount of drugs he takes LOL Incidentally, Branch is known to never eat vegetables... Falcon you should have a word with him about that bro!

branch is steroids on top of steroids a true idiot nothing can help him, he has strayed too far
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Alexander D on January 22, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
Falcon- what do you think happens to these hormones when the chicken or meat is cooked?
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: US MUSL on January 22, 2011, 02:17:47 PM
you are definity a stud, the exception to the rule

but perhaps you would be healthier without a daily dose of hormones/steroids from meat

I have often thought of trying a vegetarian diet, maybe one of these days I will give it a try. But, who knows what have been sprayed on most veggies and fruit, and organic is hard to find and expensive. I plan to retire in 4 years, maybe I'll give a home garden a shot.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small dose of steroid hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:21:10 PM
I have often thought of trying a vegetarian diet, maybe one of these days I will give it a try. But, who knows what have been sprayed on most veggies and fruit, and organic is hard to find and expensive. I plan to retire in 4 years, maybe I'll give a home garden a shot.

there are some good things sprayed on vegetables and fruits like food grade h202 purifiying/sterilizing any topical diseases on contact
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
Falcon- what do you think happens to these hormones when the chicken or meat is cooked?

well the cholesterol from an egg is still intact. im sure that cooking might denature some into free radicals, its a no win situation
Title: Re: Eating a piece
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on January 22, 2011, 02:25:17 PM
you got da mid life crisis.
Soon he'll buy a corvette and a pair of airwalks to fir in.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:38:14 PM
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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Alexander D on January 22, 2011, 02:40:38 PM
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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 22, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:44:30 PM
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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:48:27 PM
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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: dr.chimps on January 22, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
Throw some blue cheese on top of my hormones, bro. And, I'll take it rare. Thanks much.  :)
Title: Eating a piece
Post by: dj181 on January 22, 2011, 02:50:47 PM
How's your training going Falcon? Are ya getting stronger?
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 02:51:37 PM
Throw some blue cheese on top of my hormones, bro. And, I'll take it rare. Thanks much.  :)

think about what your doing...personally i wouldnt recommend taking a dosage of steroids everyday, that is what you are essentially doing by consuming flesh
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: dr.chimps on January 22, 2011, 02:55:42 PM
think about what your doing...personally i wouldnt recommend taking a dosage of steroids everyday, that is what you are essentially doing by consuming flesh
Just walking down the street I'm ingesting contaminants. I'm just gonna make damn sure I enjoy myself before I'm eroded by it all.   :)
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: FREAKgeek on January 22, 2011, 02:58:09 PM
even if its free range or organic. the thing is living animal/mamal/human beings all produce hormones. Intelligent people know the side effects of hormones and steroids even in small dosages. That chunk of chicken breast or that slab of steak is a dosage of steroids wether you want to ignore truth or not its up to you. there is no telling how much steroids is equivelant to a dose of roids but one can be intellectual and take a wild guess that maybe you should become a vegetarian and save yourself from the effects of consuming steroids. If you ate a chunk of human you will be consuming some steroids, take great care in your choices from here on out folks, this is the true awakening

It's theorized why girls are hitting puberty earlier these days...
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 03:01:36 PM
Just walking down the street I'm ingesting contaminants. I'm just gonna make damn sure I enjoy myself before I'm eroded by it all.   :)

theres alot more joy gained out of being healthy wich adds up in years. the joy from chicken breast is minutes but hazardous to health. you can get joy from healthy food and be healthy

dont hold so dear to that food wich make you happy that poisin
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 03:09:16 PM
It's theorized why girls are hitting puberty earlier these days...

i know most all things my good friend

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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 22, 2011, 03:18:36 PM
Ascending to the universal surroundings will take on a great importance someday soon.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 03:26:42 PM
Ascending to the universal surroundings will take on a great importance someday soon.

damn right brother a song for you
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 22, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
NOTHING puts on muscle mass like a nice bloody steak.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 03:39:20 PM
NOTHING puts on muscle mass like a nice bloody steak.

yes steroids put on mass but at what cost to health?
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: dr.chimps on January 22, 2011, 03:44:02 PM
theres alot more joy gained out of being healthy wich adds up in years. the joy from chicken breast is minutes but hazardous to health. you can get joy from healthy food and be healthy

dont hold so dear to that food wich make you happy that poisin
Good point, johnny. But I don't want to live to 200 like you. I just want a good stretch here on earth and enjoy myself while doing so.  :)
Title: Re: Eating a piece
Post by: roccoginge on January 22, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
Smoking ages peeps Falcon. I will soon be 37, and when I hit da clubs and tell da 18 to 21 year old honey dat I'm 28, they by it with no questions asked ;)
Why lie?  I'll be 39 next week, my girl is 22.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2011, 06:21:08 PM
Good point, johnny. But I don't want to live to 200 like you. I just want a good stretch here on earth and enjoy myself while doing so.  :)

but i think it might take civilization 200 years to evolve into a perfect vegetarian society with animals revealing the direction to fine ass hoes in other galaxies. It will take time for the animal population to give clear signals to the destinations we wish

dont just sell yourself short livin on 80 years.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 22, 2011, 06:44:50 PM
damn right brother a song for you

A good tune from Atlantic Beach been there many times.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: SF1900 on January 22, 2011, 07:02:34 PM
A good way to get fishoil off of the fish is to squeegie the fish. Falcon, what do you think about this?
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Tapeworm on January 22, 2011, 10:00:11 PM
Hormones are destroyed by digestion and first pass metabolism.  That's why you have to inject testosterone instead of just drink it, and it's why they invented methyltestosterone for ingestion.  Modern beef can be bad for you because grain feeding yields a poor omega ratio.  This applies equally to 'organic' beef.  Grass fed is the way to go for health, although I prefer grass fed & grain finished for superior taste and marbling.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: che on January 22, 2011, 10:13:29 PM
think about what your doing...personally i wouldnt recommend taking a dosage of steroids everyday, that is what you are essentially doing by consuming flesh
Fuck I think I'm buying some fake UG beef.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 23, 2011, 12:06:37 AM
even if its free range or organic. the thing is living animal/mamal/human beings all produce hormones. Intelligent people know the side effects of hormones and steroids even in small dosages. That chunk of chicken breast or that slab of steak is a dosage of steroids wether you want to ignore truth or not its up to you. there is no telling how much steroids is equivelant to a dose of roids but one can be intellectual and take a wild guess that maybe you should become a vegetarian and save yourself from the effects of consuming steroids. If you ate a chunk of human you will be consuming some steroids, take great care in your choices from here on out folks, this is the true awakening

  "Sigh". Steroids are not present in muscle tissue. Once distributed through capillaries to the muscle cells and attaching to receptors, the steroids are hydrolized quickly and removed by blood. The only place where you would find active steroids is in the blood of the animal, which you won't be consuming. And even if steroids were present in the meat, they would get destroyed by the cooking of the meat. Steroid molecules do not resist cooking temperatures. And finally, even if some of the steroids resisted the cooking, you would still not get any of it because the hydrochloric acid in the stomach destroys most steroids with a few exceptions such as oxymetholone, methandrostenolone and stanozolol. With the exception of stanozolol, no steroid used on animals survive the hydrochloric acid in stomach. For instance, testosterone needs to be converted into methyltestosterone for oral ingestion because testosterone is destroyed in the stomach.

  You = imbecile

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: freespirit on January 23, 2011, 12:13:09 AM
  "Sigh". Steroids are not present in muscle tissue. Once distributed through capillaries to the muscle cells and attaching to receptors, the steroids are hydrolized quickly and removed by blood. The only place where you would find active steroids is in the blood of the animal, which you won't be consuming. And even if steroids were present in the meat, they would get destroyed by the cooking of the meat. Steroid molecules do not resist cooking temperatures. And finally, even if some of the steroids resisted the cooking, you would still not get any of it because the hydrochloric acid in the stomach destroys most steroids with a few exceptions such as oxymetholone, methandrostenolone and stanozolol. With the exception of stanozolol, no steroid used on animals survive the hydrochloric acid in stomach. For instance, testosterone needs to be converted into methyltestosterone for oral ingestion because testosterone is destroyed in the stomach.

  You = imbecile

SUCKMYMUSCLE

In other words, you don't accept the falcon as your getbig guru?  :D
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 23, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
i dont want to live to 80+ anyways i dont give a shit feed me more red meat.
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 23, 2011, 04:29:35 AM
so are you saying the cholesterol of an egg or chicken or beef doesnt get absorbed? you guys cant deny truth with your babble

eating meat is the same as consuming oral hormones
Title: Eating a piece
Post by: dj181 on January 23, 2011, 04:51:43 AM
If it's true about steroids being in all kinds of meat, then how's come 99% of the world's population have toady physiques? I thought dat steroids were supposed to greatly enhance one's physique.
Title: Re: Eating a piece
Post by: Marty Champions on January 23, 2011, 05:26:07 AM
If it's true about steroids being in all kinds of meat, then how's come 99% of the world's population have toady physiques? I thought dat steroids were supposed to greatly enhance one's physique.

these natural and non natural steroids in food cause growth initially but shut you down later in life
Title: Eating a piece
Post by: dj181 on January 23, 2011, 05:31:15 AM
So are you saying that it would be wise for one to implament some form of pct after eating a 16oz porterhouse steak?
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Marty Champions on January 23, 2011, 05:35:22 AM
this might be the wrong forum to get this message across.. if i wouldve had the intellect at a younger age when i was eating meat and realized that there are amounts of steroids natural or unnatural in meat i wouldnt consume it. i want my hormone levels NATURALLY produced i dont need meat nor does anyone, except in famine
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: Tito24 on January 23, 2011, 05:48:19 AM
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Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 23, 2011, 10:50:17 AM
so are you saying the cholesterol of an egg or chicken or beef doesnt get absorbed? you guys cant deny truth with your babble

eating meat is the same as consuming oral hormones

  Listen to me. First of all, there are no steroids inside meat. Once the hormone gets into the muscular cell, it is quickly hydrolized by enzymes and destroyed. You would need to eat the blood of the animal for you to get any steroid, and most steroids are destroyed by the heat of cooking and are not absorbed into the GI and bloodstream because they are destroyed by hydrochloric acid in the stomach.

  Secondly, steroid hormones and fats are two different things. Long fatty chains are broken down after ingestion into short fatty chains and then they are either stored as bodyfat or broken down into glucose by the liver. It makes no difference for the body's utilization of fat whether it survives digestion intact or not. Conversely, a steroid is only active if the molecule survives digestion and reaches the bloodstream intact. Fat raises cholesterol and wrecks your health because, even though the long fatty chains are broken down by the hydrochloric acid in stomach, short fatty chains reach the liver intact and that results in a higher cholesterol output by the liver. Cholesterol itself survives digestion and reaches your bloodstream.

  Please, go learn basic physiology and biochemistry before you start spewing your ridiculous absurd threads. It is very annoying to read a thread that is so wrong on all levels like your threads are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 24, 2011, 05:15:49 PM
 Listen to me. First of all, there are no steroids inside meat. Once the hormone gets into the muscular cell, it is quickly hydrolized by enzymes and destroyed. You would need to eat the blood of the animal for you to get any steroid, and most steroids are destroyed by the heat of cooking and are not absorbed into the GI and bloodstream because they are destroyed by hydrochloric acid in the stomach.

  Secondly, steroid hormones and fats are two different things. Long fatty chains are broken down after ingestion into short fatty chains and then they are either stored as bodyfat or broken down into glucose by the liver. It makes no difference for the body's utilization of fat whether it survives digestion intact or not. Conversely, a steroid is only active if the molecule survives digestion and reaches the bloodstream intact. Fat raises cholesterol and wrecks your health because, even though the long fatty chains are broken down by the hydrochloric acid in stomach, short fatty chains reach the liver intact and that results in a higher cholesterol output by the liver. Cholesterol itself survives digestion and reaches your bloodstream.

  Please, go learn basic physiology and biochemistry before you start spewing your ridiculous absurd threads. It is very annoying to read a thread that is so wrong on all levels like your threads are.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  I really want Johnny Falcon to read this, understand, and shut up about this once and for all.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Eating a peice of meat is the same as consuming a small/large dose of hormones
Post by: dyslexic on January 24, 2011, 05:41:53 PM
  "Sigh". Steroids are not present in muscle tissue. Once distributed through capillaries to the muscle cells and attaching to receptors, the steroids are hydrolized quickly and removed by blood. The only place where you would find active steroids is in the blood of the animal, which you won't be consuming. And even if steroids were present in the meat, they would get destroyed by the cooking of the meat. Steroid molecules do not resist cooking temperatures. And finally, even if some of the steroids resisted the cooking, you would still not get any of it because the hydrochloric acid in the stomach destroys most steroids with a few exceptions such as oxymetholone, methandrostenolone and stanozolol. With the exception of stanozolol, no steroid used on animals survive the hydrochloric acid in stomach. For instance, testosterone needs to be converted into methyltestosterone for oral ingestion because testosterone is destroyed in the stomach.

  You = imbecile

SUCKMYMUSCLE


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