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I don't believe this! >:(
The Bachmann deficit plan: Double-counting, ask schools to repay stimulus, and raise taxes
by Jed Lewison
Mon Jan 24, 2011
Okay, Michele Bachmann has a plan to slash the deficit. Without even spending more than 5 minutes looking at it, the following items jumped out at me:
1. She offers two options to cut education spending. Her second option, which she says will save $29 billion, would "stop payout of the balance of the stimulus incentive grants for Race to the Top." The problem is that those grants have already been awarded (in the springs of 2009 and 2010). The only way to get that money back would be to ask for a refund.
2. Bachmann also says we can save $60 billion with a "repeal" of "unspent stimulus funds." Uh, excuse me, but didn't she just call for that very same thing with the stimulus incentive grants? Can you say double-counting?
3. There's another problem with respect to Bachmann's "repeal" of "unspent stimulus funds." She's calling for $60 billion in savings, but as of January 14, there was only $39.5 billion in unspent stimulus funds left. The only way to get $60 billion of savings out of the stimulus at this point would be to raise taxes that were lowered by the stimulus. So Bachmann's plan either calls for tax increases or it is a complete mirage...or both.
4. Finally, even if you ignore these problems and don't look for any others, by her own numbers, Bachmann's plan would still keep the deficit at around $1 trillion.
So if even Michele Bachmann can't cut her way to a balanced budget, doesn't that pretty much settle the debate over whether we should be focusing on austerity or driving economic growth?
I think this is all a lib/commie conspiracy to make Michelle look bad! Bachmann is the person ready to fix America's problems!
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(http://americanelephant.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Bachmann2012.jpg)
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"eat shit"
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Lol.
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Lol.
It's a bizarre unknown language called benninese.... I'm trying to figure it out but it's very complex... from what I can understand there are two words in his language... "eat shit..." so you must always reply, "eat shit" or he just won't understand. :)
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Stop. I'm gonna bust a gut. Ha ha.
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Stop. I'm gonna bust a gut. Ha ha.
me too lololol......
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Off to the gym. Ill grunt out an "eat shit" while I'm squatting in memory of benny that I am unloading a steaming turd that is his stupid self. Maybe ill add a little squueze too for effect.
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Politicians doing what their paymasters tell them to do.
Spin and Spin and Spin until you convince yourself it is fact.
Then feed it to your base, ad nauseum.
Sandra
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she needs to run for Prez.
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she needs to run for Prez.
Bachmann Outshines Ryan and Obama
Creating Orwellian Worldview ^ | 1/26/11 | Alaphiah
I started out thinking that I would write how Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin stole the night away from a man who is supposed to out communicate the Great Communicator.
It is said that president Barry Hussein Soetoro studied Ronald Wilson Reagan before giving this State of the Union address. A lot of good that did him, President Soetoro address was like Taco Bell meat we don’t know how much of the president’s speech is real and how much of the speech is just filler.
Then I listened to Rep. Michele Bachmann make the case for Conservatives as represented by the Tea parties. Bachmann spoke as clearly and succinctly as anyone in politics today. Last night was clearly a night for Conservatives and Republicans because both Bachmann's and Ryan's response was better, more honest than the president’s bifurcated and Orwellian misuse of the language. The fact that both Republicans were truthful and forthright was in stark contrast against the president's abuse of the American people’s intelligence.
(Excerpt) Read more at creatingorwellianworld-view-alaphiah.blogspot.com ...
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This woman is a complete dork. Sorry, but I can't stomach her.
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Until 5:00 she was very articulate and promising then she startet with the kiss ass politician talk communicating like the viewers were little children. :-\
I could vote for but please stop the voter greasing she resortet to in the last minutes it makes me sick, reminds me of Obama and the lefts hope change bla bla talk..
When she stays with the politics she is great though
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This woman is a complete dork. Sorry, but I can't stomach her.
I tried.. it was bad.. i went to panera bread
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I tried.. it was bad.. i went to panera bread
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So you managed an hour of non-stop lies, ridiculous promises, hoaxes, hodge podge, disjointed drivel, and pie in the sky pap, yet could not manage her for 3 minutes as she sliced and diced the horrific performance of this admn?
Got it.
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So you managed an hour of non-stop lies, ridiculous promises, hoaxes, hodge podge, disjointed drivel, and pie in the sky pap, yet could not manage her for 3 minutes as she sliced and diced the horrific performance of this admn?
Got it.
I bet Mal didn't watch the SOTU either..... 8)
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SOTU is always just a pep rally...my highlights were
"Dosent make sense, It has to change"
And
When he talked about gays in the military, the generals had the mean faces on.. pretty funny.
Funny tho, when he talked about domestic spending freeze, the tan man didnt clap ?
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SOTU is always just a pep rally...my highlights were
"Dosent make sense, It has to change"
And
When he talked about gays in the military, the generals had the mean faces on.. pretty funny.
Funny tho, when he talked about domestic spending freeze, the tan man didnt clap ?
Because its utter horseshit.
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Because its utter horseshit.
um ok ::)
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um ok ::)
Hey genius - wehave a 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFCIT - Freezing spending at this level doesnt do shit but preserve the insanity. We need to chop, hack, slash, and butcher the budget with a machete.
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It looks like some people have bought into Obama's "spending freeze".
Freezing spending at current levels will not do anything to cut into the deficit.
Did you people hear him talk about building high speed rails and more research for alternative energy sources? Which is it? How can he call for a spending freeze yet mention programs that are going to result in additional expenses?
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Hey genius - wehave a 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFCIT - Freezing spending at this level doesnt do shit but preserve the insanity. We need to chop, hack, slash, and butcher the budget with a machete.
Social Security? Medicaid? Defense?
Tell me oh great one. Where do you start.
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Social Security? Medicaid? Defense?
Tell me oh great one. Where do you start.
Across the board. 5% a year every year. Get rid of the DEA, BATF, DHS, NEA, EPA, consolidate existing agencies. No more govt pensios, turn them into 401k's, sell off land, drill for oil, bring troops home, etc
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Across the board. 5% a year every year. Get rid of the DEA, BATF, DHS, NEA, EPA, consolidate existing agencies. No more govt pensios, turn them into 401k's, sell off land, drill for oil, bring troops home, etc
Sell off land? To foreign nations and multinational corps?
LOL at these prices, china might own a bigger chunk of NYC than we do, in a few years...
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Sell off land? To foreign nations and multinational corps?
LOL at these prices, china might own a bigger chunk of NYC than we do, in a few years...
Whoever, we are broke and there is no reason the govt needs to own so much land .
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Whoever, we are broke and there is no reason the govt needs to own so much land .
are you okay with foreign nations filling this land (in the heart of our cities) with tanks? Or even men with legally owned rifles? Or anything else?
IMo, it's dangerous to let our potential enemies set up camps here. Even if they're just filled with unarmed men... in times of trouble, they can walk to the streets and cause major messes.
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are you okay with foreign nations filling this land (in the heart of our cities) with tanks? Or even men with legally owned rifles? Or anything else?
IMo, it's dangerous to let our potential enemies set up camps here. Even if they're just filled with unarmed men... in times of trouble, they can walk to the streets and cause major messes.
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Please, put these things on the tax rolls and make them pay property taxes. more spin and bs from Team KP out today I see.
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Please, put these things on the tax rolls and make them pay property taxes. more spin and bs from Team KP out today I see.
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Um, you're kidding right?
I'm kneepadding for Obama - by saying it's an insane idea to sell american land to foreign nations and give them the right to put anything they want there?
jeebus... that's beyond insane. How much bargaining power do we have when China has 100,000 mini military bases in our cities? Zilch.
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Um, you're kidding right?
I'm kneepadding for Obama - by saying it's an insane idea to sell american land to foreign nations and give them the right to put anything they want there?
jeebus... that's beyond insane. How much bargaining power do we have when China has 100,000 mini military bases in our cities? Zilch.
Who says allowing them to put anything they want? They would be subject to all local laws an ordinances like anyone else.
Again - we are broke - the Hoax and Change bs is tailor made for obama morons
and idiots clueless to reality.
We have a 1.5 Trillion Dollar DEFICIT. I did not even bring up he debt as ObaMAO has already made bush look like scrooge on that.
Tellme how to et out of this in any meanuigful way? Even the GOP is acting like bitches on the margins. What they want to do is not nearly enough.
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Whoever, we are broke and there is no reason the govt needs to own so much land .
Most un -American thing i've ever read. PS no one is drilling for gas and oil on our land because it's not profitable even with basically zero regulation and adherence to laws and restrictions. You know when it will be profitable? When prices rise even higher. Dumbass.
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Most un -American thing i've ever read. PS no one is drilling for gas and oil on our land because it's not profitable even with basically zero regulation and adherence to laws and restrictions. You know when it will be profitable? When prices rise even higher. Dumbass.
Why is that jerkoff? You like the Fed govt owning u to 75% of the land in some states? Its ridiculous, weshould d homesteading again.
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Why is that jerkoff? You like the Fed govt owning u to 75% of the land in some states? Its ridiculous, weshould d homesteading again.
Great thinking 333 let's sell our country! ::)
Perhaps because you live in a concrete sh*thole you do not understand how beautiful and important American parks are. Perhaps because you ride a jetski up and down a polluted waterway your perception of the outdoors is skewed. Why don't we sell the waterways too and the ocean and the air and ourselves to China ::)
Idiot. go back to riding your 'jetski' around other peoples deuces and calling it a fun outing.
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Well, you need to take it up wih Obama since even he floated that idea last night.
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Who says allowing them to put anything they want? They would be subject to all local laws an ordinances like anyone else.
okay.
Are you okay with iran buying up a shitload of land in NYC and building "schools"? where they teach explosives or anger or anything else?
Are you okay with Russia buying up land and just plain loading it up with thousands of people, which can be turned loose for whatever nefarious purposes at any time?
Are you okay with mexico setting up "understanding centers" for their illegals to hide?
Are you okay with any other legal albeit potentially dangerous shit like this?
Are you okay with china hanging their flag all over your city - so the debt can be 9 tril instead of 13? I mean, really?
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okay.
Are you okay with iran buying up a shitload of land in NYC and building "schools"? where they teach explosives or anger or anything else?
Are you okay with Russia buying up land and just plain loading it up with thousands of people, which can be turned loose for whatever nefarious purposes at any time?
Are you okay with mexico setting up "understanding centers" for their illegals to hide?
Are you okay with any other legal albeit potentially dangerous shit like this?
Are you okay with china hanging their flag all over your city - so the debt can be 9 tril instead of 13? I mean, really?
Those things you listed are not legal.
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okay.
Are you okay with iran buying up a shitload of land in NYC and building "schools"? where they teach explosives or anger or anything else?
Saudi Arabia and Iran have been doing this for years. Nice of you to miss the boat.
Yours and kcballer's posts reek of the anti-Japanese rhetoric from a few decades ago when everyone thought they would own this country outright. Worked out well for them. ::)
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Most un -American thing i've ever read. PS no one is drilling for gas and oil on our land because it's not profitable even with basically zero regulation and adherence to laws and restrictions. You know when it will be profitable? When prices rise even higher. Dumbass.
Post a link.
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Post a link.
In 2005, the Bush/ Cheney Energy Bill exempted natural gas drilling from the Safe Drinking Water Act. It exempts companies from disclosing the chemicals used during hydraulic fracturing. Essentially, the provision took the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) off the job. It is now commonly referred to as the Halliburton Loophole.
Look it up. It's there.
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In 2005, the Bush/ Cheney Energy Bill exempted natural gas drilling from the Safe Drinking Water Act. It exempts companies from disclosing the chemicals used during hydraulic fracturing. Essentially, the provision took the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) off the job. It is now commonly referred to as the Halliburton Loophole.
Look it up. It's there.
Many states are getting in the way as well.
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Many states are getting in the way as well.
::) Yeah it's the governments fault shale oil and gas is not affordable. They've done everything but do it themselves. And yet it's still not profitable. So there goes your idea of cheap energy. Down the tubes.
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::) Yeah it's the governments fault shale oil and gas is not affordable. They've done everything but do it themselves. And yet it's still not profitable. So there goes your idea of cheap energy. Down the tubes.
The govt is the main problem in most of our nations' ills.