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Erekat: ‘Obama has no credibility in the Middle East'
By HERB KEINON
27/01/2011
http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=205392
At least Mideast leaders ‘feared Bush,’ PLO negotiator says; Mitchell urges him not to let opportunities slip away.
US President Barack Obama has lost all credibility in the Middle East, PA negotiator Saeb Erekat told US envoy George Mitchell in October 2009, according to leaked Palestinian documents released by Al-Jazeera and the Guardian Wednesday night.
In an apparently heated exchange with Mitchell about a settlement freeze, Erekat said he would not be able to convince the Palestinians to negotiate without a full settlement freeze.
“It’s not up to me to decide your credibility in the Middle East,” Erekat said. “He [Obama] has lost it throughout the region.
When he got the Nobel Peace Prize, I was asked about it in the media and publicly congratulated him. I was attacked for it in the Arab media – just for congratulating like I would congratulate anyone who wins a prize... Believe me, there is no president in the Middle East who wants to help Obama as much as AM [PA President Mahmoud Abbas].”
Mitchell argued with Erekat that the Palestinians negotiated without a full freeze in the past.
“Now with the first president who wants to make an effort – he’s being penalized by you,” Mitchell said.
To which Erekat replied, “Not me. He has [Prime Minister Binyamin] Netanyahu. He came to Cairo and said, ‘full freeze.’ We will not convert to Judaism, so if Netanyahu’s charade of two states is followed, it’s going to be one state.”
Later in the meeting, Erekat said that “people in the Middle East are not taking Barack Obama seriously. They feared Bush, despite everything. This is important. BO [Obama] has lost it with the decision-makers, although not the street.”
In another meeting that month, Mitchell said Obama was “completely committed to achieving the objective you want.”
“President Obama is not like previous administrations. In US politics, there never was and there never will be a president as determined to resolve this conflict,” Mitchell said. “So you can argue over words and delay indefinitely, so you lose the most important thing – this opportunity: the presence of a US president completely committed to achieving the objective you want.”
After Erekat warned that this was a final opportunity for a two-state solution and that the best alternative to a negotiated settlement is a binational state, Mitchell replied, “That is your decision. But the fact is that you have a president committed to this issue. All that points to the need to begin negotiations as fast as possible.”
“We won’t have a perfect ToR [terms of reference], or perfect negotiations, or a perfect outcome. That’s life. I understand the frustration and the burden of history, but please, don’t let this opportunity slip by,” Mitchell said.
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"President Obama is not like previous administrations. In US politics, there never was and there never will be a president as determined to resolve this conflict,” Mitchell said.
So he is not feared but he is actually concerned with resolving the conflict ???
How is that a bad thing?
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Ha ha ha ha. Are you kidding?
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Ha ha ha ha. Are you kidding?
No.
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"President Obama is not like previous administrations. In US politics, there never was and there never will be a president as determined to resolve this conflict,” Mitchell said.
So he is not feared but he is actually concerned with resolving the conflict ???
How is that a bad thing?
This is a sterling example of why liberals shouldn't be allowed to vote or run for public office. Being committed doesn't mean jack shit if nobody respects you. When you are dealing with a bunch of animals that only understand fear, being a soft, accommodating fagg is only going to make the so called people you are committed to helping laugh at you. Its inexperience, delusion and a disconnect from reality that exposes you libs as completely out of your league in all economic and foreign policy matters. Nobody gives a fuck about having "good intentions". The world as we know it is result oriented. Your feelings don't matter.
Hope this helps.
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This is a sterling example of why liberals shouldn't be allowed to vote or elected to public office. Being committed doesn't mean jack shit if nobody respects you. When you are dealing with a bunch of animals that only understand fear, being a soft, accommodating fagg is only going to make the so called people you are committed to helping laugh at you. Its inexperience, delusion and a disconnect from reality that exposes you libs as completely out of your league in all economic and foreign policy matters. Nobody gives a fuck about having "good intentions". The world as we know it is result oriented. Your feelings don't matter.
Hope this helps.
Booom !
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You think the palestinians feared Bush?
These people grew up in a war zone, and have all lost friends and family in the conflict. They have never known peace.
You people have no idea how life is for these people yet you think they fear Bush or the US?
Stick to what you know you obviously has no idea whats going on outside your trailer park much less outside the US
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You think the palestinians feared Bush?
These people grew up in a war zone, and have all lost friends and family in the conflict. They have never known peace.
You people have no idea how life is for these people yet you think they fear Bush or the US?
Stick to what you know you obviously has no idea whats going on outside your trailer park much less outside the US
::)
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You think the palestinians feared Bush?
These people grew up in a war zone, and have all lost friends and family in the conflict. They have never known peace.
You people have no idea how life is for these people yet you think they fear Bush or the US?
Stick to what you know you obviously has no idea whats going on outside your trailer park much less outside the US
We don't think that. The Palestinians' rep JUST SAID SO.
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We don't think that. The Palestinians' rep JUST SAID SO.
LMAOOOOO what a fucking moron. Apparently, the exact words of the Palestinians aren't good enough to convince this shitbag that the Palestinians know how they feel. "Whork 25" from getbig.com knows better than the Palestinians themselves.
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LMAOOOOO what a fucking moron. Apparently, the exact words of the Palestinians aren't good enough to convince this shitbag that the Palestinians know how they feel. "Whork 25" from getbig.com knows better than the Palestinians themselves.
That is the far-left in a nutshell. They KNOW better than anyone else on all subject matters.
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Ok then amuse me why on earth should the palestinians fear Bush?
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That is the far-left in a nutshell. They KNOW better than anyone else on all subject matters.
Here we go again putting people in boxes because your primitive brain can only gasp 2 opposites, black/white, left/right etc..
A shame for you the world is a little more complex than that but why do i bother.. i might as well be speaking to a chimp
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Here we go again putting people in boxes because your primitive brain can only gasp 2 opposites, black/white, left/right etc..
A shame for you the world is a little more complex than that but why do i bother.. i might as well be speaking to a chimp
Can you not read? What you claimed was 100% the opposite of what the Palestinian said..... but as par for the course, FAR-left libs always know better.
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Ok then amuse me why on earth should the palestinians fear Bush?
Why the fuck would I care to answer a question that involves reading the minds of people that I have never met? The PALESTINANS said they feared Bush and don't respect Obama. What more evidence do you need than that?
Here's a parallel example. I am telling you that I think you are a braindead shit stain. I truly believe that. Now, do we need to ask random people who don't know me if I feel that way? No, because I just told you what I think.
Try to put it together. It's really quite simple.
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One palestinian said so retard.
You think a population that lives under the circumstances they do even have the slightest thought about Bush much less fear?
You should stick to trolling because your knowledge of the outside world is very limited
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Ok then amuse me why on earth should the palestinians fear Bush?
Ask the palestinians why. Whatever the reason, they feared Bush.
http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=205392
Later in the meeting, Erekat said that “people in the Middle East are not taking Barack Obama seriously. They feared Bush, despite everything. This is important. BO [Obama] has lost it with the decision-makers, although not the street.”
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One palestinian said so retard.
You think a population that lives under the circumstances they do even have the slightest thought about Bush much less fear?
You should stick to trolling because your knowledge of the outside world is very limited
Wow, you are dumb. It was a Palestinian negotiator that evidently Mitchell thought enough of to meet with. Not some random guy on the street. Then again, why bother with you troll.....you will just log in under 1 of your 5 gimmicks and move on to the next subject. ::)
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Feared Bush?... Boy please..
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Ok then amuse me why on earth should the palestinians fear Bush?
For the same reason that everyone in the Middle East feared Bush, because he did not hesitate to attack Afghanistan and invade Iraq almost simultaneously, not worrying one bit about what the UN or what the rest of the world said about him.
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One palestinian said so retard.
You think a population that lives under the circumstances they do even have the slightest thought about Bush much less fear?
You should stick to trolling because your knowledge of the outside world is very limited
One palestinian? He isn't just any random palestinian picked up from the street. I think I will take the words of someone who was given the responsibility of negotiating on behalf of the palestinians, who lives there, who has seen what his people have gone through and who knows his people, over your own personal belief.
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Feared Bush?... Boy please..
c'mon Mal.....you also think a Palestinian negotiator doesn't know what he's talking about? You're better than that....unless your photo was just a rib.....which would make a good one. ;D
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So why dont you believe Obama when he says the economy is recovering? He is the president and you dont believe him.
But one palestinian in an interview can apparently reflect the feelings of a whole nation?
No go to work my tax money is paying for your lazy ass
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Feared Bush?... Boy please..
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You do realize that the Palestinians don't live in Iraq right?
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So why dont you believe Obama when he says the economy is recovering? He is the president and you dont believe him.
But one palestinian in an interview can apparently reflect the feelings of a whole nation?
No go to work my tax money is paying for your lazy ass
Meltdown.
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So why dont you believe Obama when he says the economy is recovering? He is the president and you dont believe him.
But one palestinian in an interview can apparently reflect the feelings of a whole nation?
No go to work my tax money is paying for your lazy ass
Simpleton....what does the Palestinian negotiator possibly have to gain from stating this about Bush? Now what would a sitting president have to gain by stating the economy is recovering? See the difference, dullard?
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This applies to Muslim society as a whole. They only answer to fear and brutality. Sad, but true. Probably something to do with the fact that over 60% of them are inbred.
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Have you been in an warzone?
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This applies to Muslim society as a whole. They only answer to fear and brutality. Sad, but true. Probably something to do with the fact that over 60% of them are inbred.
But "whork" knows better than this common Palestinian negotiator.......pffffft tttttttttttt....... ::)
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Feared Bush?... Boy please..
That was funny, guy throws Bush two shoes and Bush dodges both with a smile on his face. The shoe thrower was probably angry that Bush invaded his country. And whork25 still asks why the Middle East feared Bush?
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c'mon Mal.....you also think a Palestinian negotiator doesn't know what he's talking about? You're better than that....unless your photo was just a rib.....which would make a good one. ;D
it was a joke..lol
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You do realize that the Palestinians don't live in Iraq right?
splittin hairs..
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So why dont you believe Obama when he says the economy is recovering? He is the president and you dont believe him.
Ah, because almost every economic indicator contradicts what he is saying. Because Obama lies about the economy doesn't mean this negotiator is lying about his people's view of Bush.
Weekly Jobless Benefits Claims Rise Amid Snow-Related Layoffs
Published January 27, 2011
| Associated Press
Print Email Share Comments (108) Text Size WASHINGTON -- The number of people applying for unemployment benefits rose sharply last week as snowstorms in some parts of the country forced companies to lay off workers.
Applications surged by a seasonally adjusted 51,000 to 454,000, the highest level since late October.
However, much of the increase was blamed on bad weather in four Southern states. That caused some companies to temporarily shut down, a government analyst says.
Snowstorms several weeks ago had kept people from filing claims. Requests for unemployment benefits fell sharply in the previous week to 403,000.
Applications below 425,000 tend to signal modest job growth. But they would need to dip consistently to 375,000 or below to indicate a significant decline in the unemployment rate.
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That was funny, guy throws Bush two shoes and Bush dodges both with a smile on his face. The shoe thrower was probably angry that Bush invaded his country. And you still ask why the Middle East feared Bush?
But how do you fear a person and chuck shoes at him. Just because it wasnt successful dosent mean he was feared.
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But "whork" knows better than this common Palestinian negotiator.......pffffft tttttttttttt....... ::)
Of course he does. The far-left knows everything about anything. Still, most people on this board perceive whork to be a fucking idiot.
It's cute how hard he tries to act like he's "in the know" on the vast range of topics he consistently embarrasses himself on. It's even funnier that he's tried to clean up his atrocious grammar and spelling in an attempt to deflect attention from the fact that he's also blacken007/MonsAnus/Neurotoxin/Snapple/etc/etc.
But how do you fear a person and chuck shoes at him. Just because it wasnt successful dosent mean he was feared.
It's one guy. It's been well documented that the extremists were terrified of Bush.
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Have you been in an warzone?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--- Who the fuck do you think you are? What warzones have you lived in? Playing "Call of Duty" on your Xbox doesn't count.
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Of course he does. The far-left knows everything about anything. Still, most people on this board perceive whork to be a fucking idiot.
It's cute how hard he tries to act like he's "in the know" on the vast range of topics he consistently embarrasses himself on. It's even funnier that he's tried to clean up his atrocious grammar and spelling in an attempt to deflect attention from the fact that he's also blacken007/MonsAnus/Neurotoxin/Snapple/etc/etc.
It's one guy. It's been well documented that the extremists were terrified of Bush.
LMAO of they were terrified of Bush.. they would have stopped for fear of his wrath.. correct?
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--- Who the fuck do you think you are? What warzones have you lived in? Playing "Call of Duty" on your Xbox doesn't count.
Whork25 = MonsVenus = fought in 3 wars, multi-millionaire business owner, fighter pilot, savant, theoretical physicist, all around God. ::)
LMAO of they were terrified of Bush.. they would have stopped for fear of his wrath.. correct?
You know, it's posts like these that make me laugh at the fact that you harp on 333 for his Obama hatred. Your Bush-hate and Obama-cocklust are definitely on par.
Stopped? No. Been deathly afraid of the after effects? Sure. Do some reading. Al Qaeda did not expect to be completely annihilated by Bush after 9/11. They had no idea the shitstorm they were bringing down on their heads. Or do you think they're appreciative of the fact that he drove them so far into the mountains they don't even have access to constant electricity?
I don't like Bush, but Obama is not respected by ANY NATION, not just the Palestinians. He's either burned bridges with all our allies or made a laughing stock of himself with the rest.
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Stim was supposed to drop UE to 8%. What is it now? Enough said.
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Mal still has failed to even attempt to post a rebutall in my Obama Job Killer thread.
Regardless, he is a good guy, deluded and blind to reality, but a good guy nonetheless.
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Jesus H Christ..
Its as simple as this..First off. I dont kneepad Obama. I have on numerous occasions stated my gripes..but ill do it again
1. Close GITMO like you said
2. Healthcare is a clusterfuck, shit or get off the pot.. cant have it both ways
3. Didnt stand firm on Bush Tax Cuts.. should have let them shits expire.. he didnt
4. Leave both Iraq and Afg.. like right now.. he didnt.
5. Ran as a Liberal, but is anything bu
Now.. for the fear thing. This one is easy. How the fuck do you quantify the level of fear one party has for another party.. one way to find out is, party A dont dont do shit to party B.
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Example:
I have beef Mal. Mal and i seek a mediator.
Do we feel more confident by going to Richard Simmons (Obama) or Tony Soprano (Bush) to help settle it?
Have you ever read "The Prince" by Nicolo Machiavelli?
Get a clue already - there is nothing new with this. Obama shows weakness since he would rather be loved than feared, but in the end, it always fails. History is crystal clear on this.
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CHAPTER XVII
CONCERNING CRUELTY AND CLEMENCY, AND WHETHER IT IS BETTER
TO BE LOVED THAN FEARED
Coming now to the other qualities mentioned above, I say that every
prince ought to desire to be considered clement and not cruel.
Nevertheless he ought to take care not to misuse this clemency. Cesare
Borgia was considered cruel; notwithstanding, his cruelty reconciled
the Romagna, unified it, and restored it to peace and loyalty. And if
this be rightly considered, he will be seen to have been much more
merciful than the Florentine people, who, to avoid a reputation for
cruelty, permitted Pistoia to be destroyed.
long as he keeps his subjects united and loyal, ought not to mind the
reproach of cruelty; because with a few examples he will be more
merciful than those who, through too much mercy, allow disorders to
arise, from which follow murders or robberies; for these are wont to
injure the whole people, whilst those executions which originate with
a prince offend the individual only.
- During the rioting between the Cancellieri and Panciatichi
factions in 1502 and 1503.
And of all princes, it is impossible for the new prince to avoid the
imputation of cruelty, owing to new states being full of dangers.
Hence Virgil, through the mouth of Dido, excuses the inhumanity of her
reign owing to its being new, saying:
"Res dura, et regni novitas me talia cogunt
Moliri, et late fines custode tueri."
Nevertheless he ought to be slow to believe and to act, nor should he
himself show fear, but proceed in a temperate manner with prudence and
humanity, so that too much confidence may not make him incautious and
too much distrust render him intolerable.
- . . . against my will, my fate
A throne unsettled, and an infant state,
Bid me defend my realms with all my pow'rs,
And guard with these severities my shores.
Christopher Pitt.
Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than
feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish
to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person,
it is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either
must be dispensed with. Because this is to be asserted in general of
men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and
as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you
their blood, property, life, and children, as is said above, when the
need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you. And
that prince who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected
other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are obtained by
payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be
earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied
upon; and men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than
one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation
which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity
for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment
which never fails.
Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he
does not win love, he avoids hatred; because he can endure very well
being feared whilst he is not hated, which will always be as long as
he abstains from the property of his citizens and subjects and from
their women. But when it is necessary for him to proceed against the
life of someone, he must do it on proper justification and for
manifest cause, but above all things he must keep his hands off the
property of others, because men more quickly forget the death of their
father than the loss of their patrimony. Besides, pretexts for taking
away the property are never wanting; for he who has once begun to live
by robbery will always find pretexts for seizing what belongs to
others; but reasons for taking life, on the contrary, are more
difficult to find and sooner lapse. But when a prince is with his
army, and has under control a multitude of soldiers, then it is quite
necessary for him to disregard the reputation of cruelty, for without
it he would never hold his army united or disposed to its duties.
Among the wonderful deeds of Hannibal this one is enumerated: that
having led an enormous army, composed of many various races of men, to
fight in foreign lands, no dissensions arose either among them or
against the prince, whether in his bad or in his good fortune. This
arose from nothing else than his inhuman cruelty, which, with his
boundless valour, made him revered and terrible in the sight of his
soldiers, but without that cruelty, his other virtues were not
sufficient to produce this effect. And short-sighted writers admire
his deeds from one point of view and from another condemn the
principal cause of them. That it is true his other virtues would not
have been sufficient for him may be proved by the case of Scipio, that
most excellent man, not only of his own times but within the memory of
man, against whom, nevertheless, his army rebelled in Spain; this
arose from nothing but his too great forbearance, which gave his
soldiers more license than is consistent with military discipline. For
this he was upbraided in the Senate by Fabius Maximus, and called the
corrupter of the Roman soldiery. The Locrians were laid waste by a
legate of Scipio, yet they were not avenged by him, nor was the
insolence of the legate punished, owing entirely to his easy nature.
Insomuch that someone in the Senate, wishing to excuse him, said there
were many men who knew much better how not to err than to correct the
errors of others. This disposition, if he had been continued in the
command, would have destroyed in time the fame and glory of Scipio;
but, he being under the control of the Senate, this injurious
characteristic not only concealed itself, but contributed to his
glory.
Returning to the question of being feared or loved, I come to the
conclusion that, men loving according to their own will and fearing
according to that of the prince, a wise prince should establish
himself on that which is in his own control and not in that of others;
he must endeavour only to avoid hatred, as is noted.
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Of course he does. The far-left knows everything about anything. Still, most people on this board perceive whork to be a fucking idiot.
It's cute how hard he tries to act like he's "in the know" on the vast range of topics he consistently embarrasses himself on. It's even funnier that he's tried to clean up his atrocious grammar and spelling in an attempt to deflect attention from the fact that he's also blacken007/MonsAnus/Neurotoxin/Snapple/etc/etc.
It's one guy. It's been well documented that the extremists were terrified of Bush.
You should now how the far-left feels. You ARE the far-left.
Nothing screams far-left more than a out of work loser like you to stupid to hold a real job and contribute to society so instead you create this fictive user with conservative values. Im sorry but you really are sad.
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Did you read that passage The Prince?
Probably not. Weakness in a leader creates a vacuum to where chaos ensues.
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Of course he does. The far-left knows everything about anything. Still, most people on this board perceive whork to be a fucking idiot.
It's cute how hard he tries to act like he's "in the know" on the vast range of topics he consistently embarrasses himself on. It's even funnier that he's tried to clean up his atrocious grammar and spelling in an attempt to deflect attention from the fact that he's also blacken007/MonsAnus/Neurotoxin/Snapple/etc/etc.
It's one guy. It's been well documented that the extremists were terrified of Bush.
"Still, most people on this board perceive whork to be a fucking idiot."
The "most people" you talk about is out of work losers with very limitid knowledge who have nothing better to do than post og GB all day so i take that as a compliment :)
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"Still, most people on this board perceive whork to be a fucking idiot."
The "most people" you talk about is out of work losers with very limitid knowledge who have nothing better to do than post og GB all day so i take that as a compliment :)
Well, one thing is for sure, you are not spending all day reading history or economics books.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--- Who the fuck do you think you are? What warzones have you lived in? Playing "Call of Duty" on your Xbox doesn't count.
I've been shot at by bikers. And i didnt think for one second who their leader was at the time.
I think the Palestinians in the mess they live in could care less who rules the US.
But forgive me i know its hard for a loser who spends his entire day in front of his computer screen to understand that there is a reality outside your house and outside the US
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I've been shot at by bikers. And i didnt think for one second who their leader was at the time.
I think the Palestinians in the mess they live in could care less who rules the US.
But forgive me i know its hard for a loser who spends his entire day in front of his computer screen to understand that there is a reality outside your house and outside the US
I would make fun of you, but the challenge is gone. I am honestly starting to feel sorry for you.
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I would make fun of you, but the challenge is gone. I am honestly starting to feel sorry for you.
You dont need to feel sorry for me but me working and paying taxes, pays your welfare check so a little gratitude would be nice
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Did your parents give you your medication this morning?
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I've been shot at by bikers.
Shot at by bikers? Say what? Are you in the ATF?
That still does not qualify you as being in a "warzone". Unless you are being shot at almost every day by the Hell's Angels, Bandidos, Mongols, etc...
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Shot at by bikers? Say what? Are you in the ATF?
That still does not qualify you as being in a "warzone". Unless you are being shot at almost every day by the Hell's Angels, Bandidos, Mongols, etc...
LMAOOOOOO @ SHOT AT BY BIKERS
Another tall tale in a long line of fictious nonsense.
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Did you read that passage The Prince?
Probably not. Weakness in a leader creates a vacuum to where chaos ensues.
First of, its your definition of weakness in this situation and with all due respect, your opinions of Obama should be taken with a grain of salt. You havent been the pillar of objectivity Re:The President...
But projection of artificial strength isnt helpful either. Also, incompentence is a form of weakness.
Bush amounts to what us blacks like to call a "fake thug"
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First of, its your definition of weakness in this situation and with all due respect, your opinions of Obama should be taken with a grain of salt. You havent been the pillar of objectivity Re:The President...
But projection of artificial strength isnt helpful either. Also, incompentence is a form of weakness.
Bush amounts to what us blacks like to call a "fake thug"
Not according to the Palistinian negotiator himself. :P :P
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Bush came in they started blowing up buildings and shit.. because they were scared of him
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I've been shot at by bikers. And i didnt think for one second who their leader was at the time.
LOL! This gimmick is hilarious. Hilariously pathetic. Living vicariously through an internet sub-forum that maybe 10 people post on.
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I've been shot at by bikers. And i didnt think for one second who their leader was at the time.
I think the Palestinians in the mess they live in could care less who rules the US.
But forgive me i know its hard for a loser who spends his entire day in front of his computer screen to understand that there is a reality outside your house and outside the US
Welll I've been shot at by Iraqi's and Afghani's...that doesn't make me qualified to talk about bikers. ::) This whole thread is retarded. They were all scared of Bush. The damm Kurds are scared that Barry will sell them out..and guess what...we are. Obama is a worthless idiot.
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Like trump says he is a joke and worldwide joke.
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Well I guess running around the world kissing everyone's rear end didn't work out too well.
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World kneepad tour did not work out too well.
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Welll I've been shot at by Iraqi's and Afghani's...that doesn't make me qualified to talk about bikers. ::) This whole thread is retarded. They were all scared of Bush. The damm Kurds are scared that Barry will sell them out..and guess what...we are. Obama is a worthless idiot.
My god you people.. read between the lines.. my point is when Israeli soldiers is shooting at you who cares who the leader of the US is?
Palestine is not Iran or Irak where they might fear being invaded by the US, they are already locked down tight my the Israeli military force with WAY heavier weaponry and technology than them.
Why would they care about the US leader? They have the Israelies to worry about.
I think you guys are mistaken Palestine for Iran or some other country. Israel/Palestine is a whole different matter
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So why dont you believe Obama when he says the economy is recovering? He is the president and you dont believe him.
But one palestinian in an interview can apparently reflect the feelings of a whole nation?
No go to work my tax money is paying for your lazy ass
Rule number one of getting out of a hole: When you're in one, don't dig deeper.
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I've been shot at by bikers. And i didnt think for one second who their leader was at the time.
What video game was this, dork? ??? ??? ??? ???
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What video game was this, dork? ??? ??? ??? ???
;D
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Grand theft auto had a few missions w bikers.
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Grand theft auto had a few missions w bikers.
Mystery solved. This guy reminds me of when Vanilla Ice talked about "being from the streets...." ::) Yeah, Sesame Street maybe...
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Mystery solved. This guy reminds me of when Vanilla Ice talked about "being from the streets...." ::) Yeah, Sesame Street maybe...
Hahahah!
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Mr Rogers neighborhood.
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El Baradaei is already throwing shots at obacarter.
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El Baradaei is already throwing shots at obacarter.
eh, for all we know it's political posturing (planned) to get the anti-american sentiment behind him, and assure potential supporters that he's no mubarrak.
the reality is he'll do what the fck we tell him to do. Period.
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Ha ha ha ha ha.
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Not to derail, but 240 I spent the weekend in raliegh for the nhl all star game, damn you southerners are slow as shit.
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Not to derail, but 240 I spent the weekend in raliegh for the nhl all star game, damn you southerners are slow as shit.
i move at about 1100 feet per second when it matters
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;)
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they feared bush so much that they blew themselves up all the damn time and send thousands of jihadists to iraq/afghanistan to fight us?
Yeah, fear.