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From another site!!
Remember the Mike Tyson,Frank Warren jewellery incident?
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Well apparently the jewels were nt for Tyson they were for a guy called Gary Nelson, a convicted cop killer from South London who apparently grabbed Tyson by the throat and threatened him to get those jewels for him!!!!!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebr.../biography.php
This is an email i recived about it from someone who claims to be in the know-------------
As you probably know Nelson was called Tyson due to him looking like him. Nelson was also a boxer and fitness fanatic.
When Mike came to London to fight Lou Savarese sometime in 2000. Nelson was his minder and running partner. Tyson had specifically asked for him after hearing about his reputation which was similar to Mikes when he was growing up.
Anyway, do you remember when Frank Warren was assaulted by Mike Tyson when he came over for that fight. Well Nelson had made Mike get some expensive jewellery for him as a thank you for guarding him during a previous fight with Julius Francis earlier that same year in Manchester. I was told he was quite forceful with Mike,grabbing him by the throat and screaming at him. So Mike went to the shop with Warren and took the jewellery believing that Frank would pay for it. But Frank had no intention of paying for it as he felt that was between Tyson and Nelson. So when Mike came back for the Saverese fight the jewellery shop said they were going to sue Mike. He flipped and attacked Warren in a hotel room.
Nelson got to keep the jewellery.
(http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/resources/images/450860/?type=display)
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From another site!!
Remember the Mike Tyson,Frank Warren jewellery incident?
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Well apparently the jewels were nt for Tyson they were for a guy called Gary Nelson, a convicted cop killer from South London who apparently grabbed Tyson by the throat and threatened him to get those jewels for him!!!!!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebr.../biography.php
This is an email i recived about it from someone who claims to be in the know-------------
As you probably know Nelson was called Tyson due to him looking like him. Nelson was also a boxer and fitness fanatic.
When Mike came to London to fight Lou Savarese sometime in 2000. Nelson was his minder and running partner. Tyson had specifically asked for him after hearing about his reputation which was similar to Mikes when he was growing up.
Anyway, do you remember when Frank Warren was assaulted by Mike Tyson when he came over for that fight. Well Nelson had made Mike get some expensive jewellery for him as a thank you for guarding him during a previous fight with Julius Francis earlier that same year in Manchester. I was told he was quite forceful with Mike,grabbing him by the throat and screaming at him. So Mike went to the shop with Warren and took the jewellery believing that Frank would pay for it. But Frank had no intention of paying for it as he felt that was between Tyson and Nelson. So when Mike came back for the Saverese fight the jewellery shop said they were going to sue Mike. He flipped and attacked Warren in a hotel room.
Nelson got to keep the jewellery.
(http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/resources/images/450860/?type=display)
Looks like a bald version of "The Game".
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From another site!!
Remember the Mike Tyson,Frank Warren jewellery incident?
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Well apparently the jewels were nt for Tyson they were for a guy called Gary Nelson, a convicted cop killer from South London who apparently grabbed Tyson by the throat and threatened him to get those jewels for him!!!!!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebr.../biography.php
This is an email i recived about it from someone who claims to be in the know-------------
As you probably know Nelson was called Tyson due to him looking like him. Nelson was also a boxer and fitness fanatic.
When Mike came to London to fight Lou Savarese sometime in 2000. Nelson was his minder and running partner. Tyson had specifically asked for him after hearing about his reputation which was similar to Mikes when he was growing up.
Anyway, do you remember when Frank Warren was assaulted by Mike Tyson when he came over for that fight. Well Nelson had made Mike get some expensive jewellery for him as a thank you for guarding him during a previous fight with Julius Francis earlier that same year in Manchester. I was told he was quite forceful with Mike,grabbing him by the throat and screaming at him. So Mike went to the shop with Warren and took the jewellery believing that Frank would pay for it. But Frank had no intention of paying for it as he felt that was between Tyson and Nelson. So when Mike came back for the Saverese fight the jewellery shop said they were going to sue Mike. He flipped and attacked Warren in a hotel room.
Nelson got to keep the jewellery.
(http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/resources/images/450860/?type=display)
blah blah blah...if u say so Darren, loool
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Its not me me old china, its some geezer off eastsideboxing.com
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Its not me me old china, its some geezer off eastsideboxing.com
same place that claimed overreem said he would outbox tyson huh? ::)
lol.
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same place that claimed overreem said he would outbox tyson huh? ::)
lol.
Yeh!!
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This gun culture is a joke, kids can terrify the toughest men in the world by pulling out a gun and shooting at them. It doesnt take much to flash a piece, its the men that can handle their business unarmed that gather the greatest respect.
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Ive just been told this same story by a bloke at the gym. This Nelson must be a hell of a badass. When hes escorted round prison they use 12 guards!!!!!!!!!!! Even Bronson only has 8 guards!
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shot an unarmed cop, got 35 years
Yep, sounds a real bad ass.
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Gary doesn't take kindly to disrespect. not on the internet, not in person, not in a grocery store parking lot, not in like at walmart, not in a restaurant, not at the beach, not at the dry cleaners... anywhere.
ppl talk about the 'pussyfication' of America, yet they run their mouths thinking they won't get slapped and get their arm broken in front of their friends.
spent many yrs in a place where if you talk slick and say something out of line to somebody, you know that when you say it, you better be ready for what happens. most ppl here in the 'real world', aren't ready for what could happen.. and run their mouths like the world is a make believe cartoon. despite wearing nice slacks, polished shoes and a nice shirt, the guy you steal that parking spot from at the grocery store and proceed to flip off, may have just gotten out of prison and will have no problem identifying they bitch in you and proceed to teach you a lesson by taking you down to the ground and kicking out your teeth before you even know what happened.
the guy who's willing to go the furthest, wins. if you're not willing to go all the way, it's best you keep your mouth shut and move on, and make it to the next day.
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esfitness would take this guys bench in the slammer......
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esfitness would take this guys [cock] in the slammer......
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Gary this week hospitalised 4 prison guards. Makes you wonder why would anyone take a job like that dealing with animals like this.
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seriously doubt this, tyson, was a trained professional fighter, and had serious ko power
a trained professional would destroy any street thug in a fight.
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Gary this week hospitalised 4 prison guards. Makes you wonder why would anyone take a job like that dealing with animals like this.
Well it is the UK. He probably yelled at them too loud.
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Well it is the UK. He probably yelled at them too loud.
Hate it or love it, the underdog on top
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Well it is the UK. He probably yelled at them too loud.
hahah lol
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Why jewelry, just get cash ::)
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Why jewelry, just get cash ::)
The Story sounds better with the jewels 💎 element added.
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This is an email i recived about it from someone who claims to be in the know-------------
Rock solid reporting. This person should get a job at CNN.
::)
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seriously doubt this, tyson, was a trained professional fighter, and had serious ko power
a trained professional would destroy any street thug in a fight.
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Unless they came up against Cricketting bodybuilder Martyn Ford who is an unbeatable fighter.
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Cool story bro.
::)
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Tyson's a crazed Pitbull at the time.
This guy would be shitting teeth if he grabbed ole Iron Mike by the throat.
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Gary is appealing his sentence. This guy makes the hardest gangs shit them selves
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Thread info + very doubtful.
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Thread info + very doubtful.
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Agreed.
In his prime ( and probably now ) Tyson would have backed down from NO MAN.
J
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Agreed.
In his prime ( and probably now ) Tyson would have backed down from NO MAN.
J
tyson had alot to lose, gary nelson gave no fucks.Its like you picking a fight with the local hobo who is 140 pounds but always carries a knife and always holds a grudge.Never fuck with the man who has nothing to lose.
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tyson had alot to lose, gary nelson gave no fucks.Its like you picking a fight with the local hobo who is 140 pounds but always carries a knife and always holds a grudge.Never fuck with the man who has nothing to lose.
Gary & Hobo Both Had got their Faculties & Lives to Lose - Enough to be more than Concerned about.
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Gary & Hobo Both Had got their Faculties & Lives to Lose - Enough to be more than Concerned about.
not at all. if someone doesnt care about being hurt or killed, and will always come back at you, thats scary for everyone, best boxer in the world, mma, whatever.Im sure tyson could have beat the shit out of Al Capone but we all know he'd have done whatever al said.
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not at all. if someone doesnt care about being hurt or killed, and will always come back at you, thats scary for everyone, best boxer in the world, mma, whatever.Im sure tyson could have beat the shit out of Al Capone but we all know he'd have done whatever al said.
Aside from getting some one shot dead - Al Capone / Hobo / Gary would give a fuck
And if they got killed they’d not be able to do a thing about.
Every man & beast has fear inside him that’s what keeps us alive.
I think we’ve lead very very different lives as my experience tells me differently
To yours.
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Aside from getting some one shot dead - Al Capone / Hobo / Gary would give a fuck
And if they got killed they’d not be able to do a thing about.
Every man & beast has fear inside him that’s what keeps us alive.
I think we’ve lead very very different lives as my experience tells me differently
To yours.
I agree, I suspect you are American.Ive lived in both usa and uk, where im from.White Americans are largely separated from the majority of random violence of black urban america, your average white suburb never really sees any "gang" activity and they dont have much concept of anything but suing each other as the boldest they get.In the uk, every town has its local known "white dealers" and "hardmen" who would happily stab you or put you in a coma for giving them shit or a perceived sleight, and this is white suburbs here.Everyone, white, black, asian whatever knows of these types of people locally, and the best boxers, biggest guys etc know to steer clear of them.It doesnt surprise me at all that tyson was scared of a lunatic like nelson, who is suspected of murdering 4+ people on top of the 2 he was convicted for.Tyson might have been one of the best boxers on the planet at the time, but he is no match for a knife or a gun.
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Mike Tyson fought Mitch “Blood” Greene in the Harlem streets for no reason at all and kicked his ass.
You’d be crazy to think Tyson would be bothered by this clown in any way.
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Mike Tyson fought Mitch “Blood” Greene in the Harlem streets for no reason at all and kicked his ass.
You’d be crazy to think Tyson would be bothered by this clown in any way.
mitch green is\was just a boxer.Mike isnt afraid of getting punched in a brawl, he is afraid of getting murdered by a lunatic, just like any sane person.Mike tyson had a temper sure, but he knows his limits.
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I agree, I suspect you are American.Ive lived in both usa and uk, where im from.White Americans are largely separated from the majority of random violence of black urban america, your average white suburb never really sees any "gang" activity and they dont have much concept of anything but suing each other as the boldest they get.In the uk, every town has its local known "white dealers" and "hardmen" who would happily stab you or put you in a coma for giving them shit or a perceived sleight, and this is white suburbs here.Everyone, white, black, asian whatever knows of these types of people locally, and the best boxers, biggest guys etc know to steer clear of them.It doesnt surprise me at all that tyson was scared of a lunatic like nelson, who is suspected of murdering 4+ people on top of the 2 he was convicted for.Tyson might have been one of the best boxers on the planet at the time, but he is no match for a knife or a gun.
I live in the UK & Southern Spain
Daughter in San Francisco.
I’m very well aware of the Criminal & Gang life over Here.
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mitch green is\was just a boxer.Mike isnt afraid of getting punched in a brawl, he is afraid of getting murdered by a lunatic, just like any sane person.Mike tyson had a temper sure, but he knows his limits.
No.
That is a stupid statement.
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I live in the UK & Southern Spain
Daughter in San Francisco.
I’m very well aware of the Criminal & Gang life over Here.
then you know for all tysons fiery temper, as far we know he has never stabbed anyone or shot anyone to death.Nelson has murdered 2 people for "disrespecting him", and thats all we know of.I know which of the 2 id be more scared of.One might give you a beating, the other will end your life.
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No.
That is a stupid statement.
he's just a boxer, unless you can provide evidence to the contrary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Green
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he's just a boxer, unless you can provide evidence to the contrary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Green
He’s “just” a boxer.
6’-5” and 260 lb professional fighter
And the other clown is a overhyped street thug who shot an unarmed man.
You’re exposing your Darren Avey gimmick, dumbo.
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He’s “just” a boxer.
6’-5” and 260 lb professional fighter
And the other clown is a overhyped street thug who shot an unarmed man.
You’re exposing your Darren Avey gimmick, dumbo.
again, one is a sportsman, the other is classed as one of the most dangerous murderers in britain. The fact you think its a comparison of which on the streets is scarier really is troubling to me.
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then you know for all tysons fiery temper, as far we know he has never stabbed anyone or shot anyone to death.Nelson has murdered 2 people for "disrespecting him", and thats all we know of.I know which of the 2 id be more scared of.One might give you a beating, the other will end your life.
One might end your life if he’s got a knife or gun
The other could quite easily end your life with a punch to the head
If you’re not a trained pro heavyweight boxer.
I can name at least a couple of men that have stabbed or shot some one dead
And I’d willingly fight them before thinking of fighting Tyson.
Stabbing / Shooting someone is a completely different thing.
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One might end your life if he’s got a knife or gun
The other could quite easily end your life with a punch to the head
If you’re not a trained pro heavyweight boxer.
I can name at least a couple of men that have stabbed or shot some one dead
And I’d willingly fight them before thinking of fighting Tyson.
Stabbing / Shooting someone is a completely different thing.
which would you rather disrespect and owe money too?Gary Nelson or Mike Tyson?As thats what this thread is about.
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which would you rather disrespect and owe money too?Gary Nelson or Mike Tyson?As thats what this thread is about.
Neither of them Particularly
Though depends if it were on my Patch or theirs as That makes all the difference
And that goes for both of them also on how they behave on someone else’s manor it’s a different story.
Clearly Gary was a formidable gangster & thought nowt of shooting people.
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Neither of them Particularly
Though depends if it were on my Patch or theirs as That makes all the difference
And that goes for both of them also on how they behave on someone else’s manor it’s a different story.
Clearly Gary was a formidable gangster & thought nowt of shooting people.
one might get angry at you and scowl, the other would probably murder you
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2242129/The-day-I-Brad-Pitt-bed-wife-Mike-Tyson-reveals-mad-hell-discovering-bizarre-love-triangle.html
http://ballislife.com/mike-tyson-fight-michael-jordan-givens/
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one might get angry at you and scowl, the other would probably murder you
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2242129/The-day-I-Brad-Pitt-bed-wife-Mike-Tyson-reveals-mad-hell-discovering-bizarre-love-triangle.html
http://ballislife.com/mike-tyson-fight-michael-jordan-givens/
If you believe so. Good for you.
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If you believe so. Good for you.
I dont need to believe it, the brad pitt story is right there in his own words.One is a sportsman, the other is a career criminal and murderer.If tyson had a history of beating the shit out of regular people since he turned pro like nelson,he’d have been sued and thrown in jail for decades.As scary as tyson is he is largely able to reign in his actual killer instinct, whether its due to morality, fear or knowing he has too much to lose, who knows.One is a killer, the other one isnt.it certainly didnt put brad pitt and michael jordan off, and he didnt do anything about it either.The other murdered for way less.Nelson was known as the most dangerous man in london, and took over the drug trade from the yardies.Next youll be saying youd have feared mike tyson would take your life over john gotti if you owed them both money.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/gangster-jailed-for-pc-death-may-have-killed-four-others-a3293531.html
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again, one is a sportsman, the other is classed as one of the most dangerous murderers in britain. The fact you think its a comparison of which on the streets is scarier is really is troubling to me.
Larry Hoover could have Gary Nelson killed tomorrow before noon without even trying.
Doesn’t mean he’d walk up to Mike Tyson and threaten him.
Darren, you’ve pushed the gypsy and east-end tough guy schtick way too long.
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Larry Hoover could have Gary Nelson killed tomorrow before noon without even trying.
Doesn’t mean he’d walk up to Mike Tyson and threaten him.
Darren, you’ve pushed the gypsy and east-end tough guy schtick way too long.
Tyson would have shit his pants if either of them threatened him.Again, sportsman and killers, learn the difference.Next youll be saying tyson could take down armed marine units.
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Tyson would have shit his pants if either of them threatened him.Again, sportsman and killers, learn the difference.Next youll be saying tyson could take down armed marine units.
More stupidity.
At least you’re consistent.
Consistently stupid.
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I dont need to believe it, the brad pitt story is right there in his own words.One is a sportsman, the other is a career criminal and murderer.If tyson had a history of beating the shit out of regular people since he turned pro like nelson,he’d have been sued and thrown in jail for decades.As scary as tyson is he is largely able to reign in his actual killer instinct, whether its due to morality, fear or knowing he has too much to lose, who knows.One is a killer, the other one isnt.it certainly didnt put brad pitt and michael jordan off, and he didnt do anything about it either.The other murdered for way less.Nelson was known as the most dangerous man in london, and took over the drug trade from the yardies.Next youll be saying youd have feared mike tyson would take your life over john gotti if you owed them both money.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/gangster-jailed-for-pc-death-may-have-killed-four-others-a3293531.html
Carry on Boy.
In a fight - no weapons - Tyson would've obliterated him
Your quite entitled to your opinion though.
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Carry on Boy.
In a fight - no weapons - Tyson would've obliterated him
Your quite entitled to your opinion though.
Nobody sane ever denied in a fight with no weapons tyson would win.This is about some madman who is willing to murder people over less than what he threatened Tyson over.So tyson knocks him out, nelson wakes up and comes back with a gun, no more tyson.This whole thread was about if tyson would shit himself if some killer threatened him, that he could easily beat up bare knuckle but would murder him at a later point when he didnt see it coming.And for any normal person, muscled up, trained fighter etc, thats a yes.People involved in combat are more hyperaware of how fast your life can be taken with weapons.Dont forget tyson was hanging around with tupac like an hour before tupac was gunned down over some beef, you dont think shit like that plays on his mind?You do realise Tyson had a team of minders right?Ever question why he needed them?Would being the best fighter in the world have saved john lennon?robert kennedy?Lincoln?Notorious B.I.G?If some lunatic wants you dead badly enough, you will be dead.
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tyson had alot to lose, gary nelson gave no fucks.Its like you picking a fight with the local hobo who is 140 pounds but always carries a knife and always holds a grudge.Never fuck with the man who has nothing to lose.
The thing is, Tyson himself would have been very well connected with gangsters far more powerful and dangerous then Nelson. I highly doubt Tyson would have just meekly taken verbal and physical abuse directed towards him by a violent thug. Nelson would have been a wanted man had he tried anything on Tyson.
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The thing is, Tyson himself would have been very well connected with gangsters far more powerful and dangerous then Nelson. I highly doubt Tyson would have just meekly taken verbal and physical abuse directed towards him by a violent thug. Nelson would have been a wanted man had he tried anything on Tyson.
Its about taking the least chances.You can payup 600k when you still have access to millions and have it forgotten about in a day, or you can risk some gang war that might get you killed.People nearly always choose the soft option.Tyson was a sportsman, not a gangster.
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Nobody sane ever denied in a fight with no weapons tyson would win.This is about some madman who is willing to murder people over less than what he threatened Tyson over.So tyson knocks him out, nelson wakes up and comes back with a gun, no more tyson.This whole thread was about if tyson would shit himself if some killer threatened him, that he could easily beat up bare knuckle but would murder him at a later point when he didnt see it coming.And for any normal person, muscled up, trained fighter etc, thats a yes.People involved in combat are more hyperaware of how fast your life can be taken with weapons.Dont forget tyson was hanging around with tupac like an hour before tupac was gunned down over some beef, you dont think shit like that plays on his mind?You do realise Tyson had a team of minders right?Ever question why he needed them?Would being the best fighter in the world have saved john lennon?robert kennedy?Lincoln?Notorious B.I.G?If some lunatic wants you dead badly enough, you will be dead.
You've been around the criminal gangster scene Have you in London or anywhere else - Past or present ??
Know a few faces do you ??
Unfortunately I have ( And I do Mean Unfortunately - as its not A good way to lead your life )
Please don't try and Lecture Me / Tell Me How Things Are.
Thanks.
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Its about taking the least chances.You can payup 600k when you still have access to millions and have it forgotten about in a day, or you can risk some gang war that might get you killed.People nearly always choose the soft option.Tyson was a sportsman, not a gangster.
Boxing isn't a sport in the same way tennis or golf for instance is. Boxing is a violent sport that tends to attract unsavoury characters who are linked with the underworld. Many boxers have been ex-gangsters themselves or have served jail time.
Mayweather for example is a sportsman but I'm sure is far more connected with dangerous individuals compared to top athletes in other sports. I find it difficult to believe Tyson would have passively accepted being threatened by a thug and just let it go. It's not as if Tyson was a reasonable and thoughtful person too. He was known for his often volatile and erratic behaviour, even in the ring.
I think anyone who tried to get aggressive with Tyson would have paid a price. That's why I find the story difficult to believe.
Darren Avey tends to tell a lot of tall tales.
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You've been around the criminal gangster scene Have you in London or anywhere else - Past or present ??
Know a few faces do you ??
Unfortunately I have ( And I do Mean Unfortunately - as its not A good way to lead your life )
Please don't try and Lecture Me / Tell Me How Things Are.
Thanks.
im not lecturing you on anything, you completely misunderstood the point of the thread.Nobody ever said nelson would win in a fist fight, thats insane.The point was would tyson back down to nelson.You keep going off on irrelevant tangents.
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I’d rather owe Tyson money than the mafia.
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Who the hells Larry Hoover?
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im not lecturing you on anything, you completely misunderstood the point of the thread.Nobody ever said nelson would win in a fist fight, thats insane.The point was would tyson back down to nelson.You keep going off on irrelevant tangents.
You went off about owing Mr x/y/z £ - Mike didn’t owe Gary any £ - Either Mike or Hearn owed the jewellery Shop.
The Point of the thread was that Gary grabbed & intimidated Mike into Getting him that jewellery
No mention of a gun or other weapon - And You think it’s true - Good for you.
You’ve not answered any of my questions to you. ??
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The thing is, Tyson himself would have been very well connected with gangsters far more powerful and dangerous then Nelson. I highly doubt Tyson would have just meekly taken verbal and physical abuse directed towards him by a violent thug. Nelson would have been a wanted man had he tried anything on Tyson.
Not in London turf. Nelson was the top dog even the Adams and Hunts were wary of him as they knew how dangerous he was.