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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: gh15 on January 30, 2011, 02:38:35 AM
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avoid advice,,avoide comunication ,,avoid dealing with,,avoid anythnig to do with them ,,stay far,,red alert should come in your head moment you hear from them,,anything they say should be taken with big grain of salt,,anythign come out of their mouth is usually twisted to fit specific reality of thier choise
liar priest
skip lacour
ron heris
rodrigez brothers
jeff willet
kyoshi moody
christopher faildo
neil norton
david palumbo (this is for keith)
gh15 approved
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avoid advice,,avoide comunication ,,avoid dealing with,,avoid anythnig to do with them ,,stay far,,red alert should come in your head moment you hear from them,,anything they say should be taken with big grain of salt,,anythign come out of their mouth is usually twisted to fit specific reality of thier choise
liar priest
skip lacour
ron heris
rodrigez brothers
jeff willet
kyoshi moody
christopher faildo
neil norton
david palumbo (this is for keith)
gh15 approved
What, no Phil Heath? I guess because he hasn't said anything...
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What, no Phil Heath? I guess because he hasn't said anything...
not big liar enough,,not talk much,,keep to himelf,,the other are blunt liars of the worst kind in modern bodybuild,,
gh15 approved
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Milos has never had sex outside his marriage and has never suffered from delusions...
DJ does not use chemicals and does not know what day he was born....'
And what would a liar list with out Priest and Yates on it? On second thought name a pro BD that does not lie....good luck
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I really dislike Ron Herris - GH15 could you drop a crate of sustanona on his distorted head?
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10 worst liars in 'curent' modern bodybuilding
Translation: 10 Guys who've farked my lady.
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Dont forget that lying bastard Big Ach.
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avoid advice,,avoide comunication ,,avoid dealing with,,avoid anythnig to do with them ,,stay far,,red alert should come in your head moment you hear from them,,anything they say should be taken with big grain of salt,,anythign come out of their mouth is usually twisted to fit specific reality of thier choise
david palumbo
gh15 approved
then what is your opinion of the posts in this thread ?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=364572.0
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then what is your opinion of the posts in this thread ?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=364572.0
And what does Dave lie about?
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liar priest
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We are truly blessed here to have gh15 looking over our shoulders.
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GH15, avoid that lying bastard God
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I only count 9, counting is not a strong point of god of hormones
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GH15 Have u a cut off liar priests supply yet?
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keith was not a liar
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And what does Dave lie about?
2iu insulin "only for those who produce too little"
2iu GH is all you ever need at any level
10mcg IGF-1 max dose
1 gram of test... no one should take more or benefits from more. Dave never tried much more, about 1200mg
Lies or truth? :D
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I only count 9, counting is not a strong point of god of hormones
Nor is it yours....
read it again
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And what does Dave lie about?
More like what does he tell the truth about?
He keeps going on and on about how his website is growing bigger and bigger, yet he has no trainingor lifestyle videos and resorts to interviewing strippers and nobodies in his neighborhood for content.
The truth is that rx has been blackballed by the npc and ifbb
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Your mom tells lies
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What, no Phil Heath? I guess because he hasn't said anything...
His friends, Dante and Skip pancake, among others, are honest though. ::)
"Magnum" mentioned here is Disgusted/Jim from Getbig. "Killerstack" = me.
Thank you, Phil. Very good points.
However, I have to say clearly that I wouldn't have said a WORD about Phil in that thread with Magnum if Phil were using insulin whether a friend or not because I gain nothing by defending him if he were using insulin. As most will agree here on this board, there is a LOT of insulin use in the pros and so it wouldn't seem odd to me that he would be using it. I responded to that thread for two reasons:
1. Magnum lies and pretends to know way more than he does.
2. Phil doesn't use insulin and hasn't.
It doesn't matter if it is too hard to believe by the people that are not truly in the know - those same people guess and pretend to know what a LOT of people are taking. It happens everyday on a lot of boards. I called Magnum on it because he has a lot of people that for some reason want to listen to the guy and his crap. I am careful with what I say online because I know that what I say can influence a lot of people so I feel a responsibility to be careful with what I say and weigh my words. Magnum should do the same and he doesn't. He is constantly trying to post like he is getting massive PMs about training and nutrition, that he knows what all of the pros are doing including Phil because, well, he has spoken with so and so on occasion and should know, etc.. I mean, really, how many pros are there in Ohio? Who does Magnum REALLY train? He has asked a lot of questions pretending to not have a clue who I am so let's turn the tables and let's see who, outside of Kamali on one or two occasions, has Magnum trained? I will go out on a limb and say the resume is less than impressive.
As for Dante's statements: I don't need to go after Dante because he has credibility. He doesn't pretend to know people and he doesn't pretend to be someone that he isn't. I loathe people that are fake and people that lie and Dante is far from fake and far from being known as a liar. I also consider Dante a friend as I have known him for several years. I think Dante would be the first to admit that when I don't agree with him I don't keep it to myself. We argue far more than anyone here will ever know but I respect him even if I disagree with him on occasion. If I had to go into business with one of them I wouldn't hesitate to go with Dante because he has character.
In response to KillerStack directly: You say it is ridiculous that I say he isn't on insulin and you say that as your only defense to not having a fucking clue. Your other statement is lame and predictable, as well, when you say that people don't know who is taking what unless it is witnessed while they are administering it. That is an argument that I would hear on a playground. While you are guessing about what everyone is taking, I and others that actually ARE in the know are discussing these things with the people that you don't have the privilege of knowing or talking to on such a level to gain this information. Also, you should keep in mind that I have known Phil since he won the Colorado State in 2003.
I am going to stop there so that I don't say too much as I have too much respect for Phil to let something slip that shouldn't. Imagine the trust that Phil must have in me for him to discuss such things with me, all the while knowing that I own IntenseMuscle.com and could blow the lid off of things that he has openly discussed with me? Even personal things that have nothing to do with gear. Can you try to understand that for just a second? THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT KNOW THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
Or, you guys could just get together and go to getbig and photoshop cocks in the mouthes of my children. That is the mentality we are dealing with here, after all, yet I am the one that is accused of being juvenile.
When I post things on a board like PM or IM or RX, people believe me because I have credibility and a reputation for telling the truth. My name is no secret and I openly discuss where I train and have pictures of my wife and family online all over the place and alot of people know exactly where I live. I was convicted of possession of a counterfeit steroid (yes, that was the charge) in 97 in Michigan. So, if some douchebag wants to post my criminal record on another board thinking I will be embarrassed, it won't bother me in the least.
I really don't need to argue this anymore than it has already been argued because most everyone that will read this thread or the one that I posted about Magnum being a liar, they believe it. They all saw that he wasn't big enough to recant his statement and they all watched him try to lie his way out of it. It was pathetic, actually, and yet funny to witness at the same time. Yeah, things just sort of having a way of working themselves out over time.
Props to the prep guys with character here at PM:
Phil - I have been on the boards for a while with you and even though we are technically competitors in the industry, I don't recall a bad word from you, ever. In fact, I have seen things that you do with your clients that I do, as well.
MountainDog - No one has a bad word to say about you and you carry yourself with humility and are always postive and supportive. Some of the things I have read about (your theories and ideas) are refreshing as they aren't considered terribly normal or orthodox. I love that.
Shelby - You have always carried yourself well and you always are careful with your words, as well. Always respectful even when I have busted on your balls at IM a few times for advertising. lol You are a PR workhorse. I have privately applauded your abilities for the work that you do with your clients and publicly congratulated you with sincerity on your condition when you compete .... all 42 shows worth, last year.
Magnum - You're just a shit talker. No idea what you look like, what you have ever done on stage (if anything, at all), who you have worked with, who you REALLY know, what your real name is, etc.. Just a guy behind a computer from Ohio (so I hear).
If you don't rank at the top of the pecking order here at PM, how in the hell could you possibly rank at the top of the pecking order in the industry?
Ken "Skip" Hill
On top of a hill just up the canyon from Denver, Colorado
TEAMSKIP.net
Of course, after these posts I kept getting PM's from people who said they heard directly from Hany's camp/his trainees, Phil's mouth etc how Heath uses insulin, e.g. 20iu post workout. They just didn't want to get involved in the debate publicly. :D ::)
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More like what does he tell the truth about?
He keeps going on and on about how his website is growing bigger and bigger, yet he has no trainingor lifestyle videos and resorts to interviewing strippers and nobodies in his neighborhood for content.
The truth is that rx has been blackballed by the npc and ifbb
I find it interesting that you know this considering I saw Dave have a long pleasant conversation with an NPC promoter just yesterday.
I would say that my eyes saw and ears heard what you are saying they shouldnt have.
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I find it interesting that you know this considering I saw Dave have a long pleasant conversation with an NPC promoter just yesterday.
I would say that my eyes saw and ears heard what you are saying they shouldnt have.
I didn't say he couldn't talk to promotors or athletes, but how many have you seen him interview or video recently?
rx was already in hot water with robin chang over the olympia and the bullshit stories that erin singerman spread didn't do them any favors. My prediction for the no. of post contest interviews they get at the upcoming flex show = 0. Ditto for the arnold.
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I didn't say he couldn't talk to promotors or athletes, but how many have you seen him interview or video recently?
rx was already in hot water with robin chang over the olympia and the bullshit stories that erin singerman spread didn't do them any favors. My prediction for the no. of post contest interviews they get at the upcoming flex show = 0. Ditto for the arnold.
You could be correct.
We will know by March right?
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You could be correct.
We will know by March right?
yup. ;)
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I didn't say he couldn't talk to promotors or athletes, but how many have you seen him interview or video recently?
rx was already in hot water with robin chang over the olympia and the bullshit stories that erin singerman spread didn't do them any favors. My prediction for the no. of post contest interviews they get at the upcoming flex show = 0. Ditto for the arnold.
Dave Palumbo is already blacklisted all over New York for his little fake GH stint a while back. Bodybuilders (NPC and Pros alike) can not stand him and purposely dodge him whenever possible. He still has his followers that swear that his unconventional diet methods work, but most have jumped off that wagon a long time ago.
From the few times I've interacted with him, he does seem like a nice guy, but I can't imagine how those guys injecting fake GH felt after they found out they just gave their money away.
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Dave Palumbo is already blacklisted all over New York for his little fake GH stint a while back. Bodybuilders (NPC and Pros alike) can not stand him and purposely dodge him whenever possible. He still has his followers that swear that his unconventional diet methods work, but most have jumped off that wagon a long time ago.
From the few times I've interacted with him, he does seem like a nice guy, but I can't imagine how those guys injecting fake GH felt after they found out they just gave their money away.
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I'd guess like drug users who got jilted by a dealer.
I guess that's the difference in GH and coke. You know coke by how fucked up you get immediately. GH just takes awhile. Plus you can play the 'drug sensitivity' card.
I'm shocked that the weiders aren't on the list with their training and supplementation schpeel when clearly it's steroids.
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Dave Palumbo is already blacklisted all over New York for his little fake GH stint a while back. Bodybuilders (NPC and Pros alike) can not stand him and purposely dodge him whenever possible. He still has his followers that swear that his unconventional diet methods work, but most have jumped off that wagon a long time ago.
From the few times I've interacted with him, he does seem like a nice guy, but I can't imagine how those guys injecting fake GH felt after they found out they just gave their money away.
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they're all drug addicts. who cares if his supply was partially tainted? i'm sure GH15 is giving out BS so he can widen his profit margins...just didnt get busted yet. just sling snow on the side but don't let your mom get caught with the shit in the trunk.
peace.
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I'd say Chris Faildo since he has posted fairly frequently on Getbig. That guy is full of so much bullshit he doesn't even need a tanning booth.
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what about 'groink'?
lol
a nice enough guy, but i cant believe he expects people to believe he's clean.
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not big liar enough,,not talk much,,keep to himelf,,the other are blunt liars of the worst kind in modern bodybuild,,
gh15 approved
A liar is a liar anyway you cut it.
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As an Honorable Mention, let's not forget Paul Dillett claiming that he landed a $4.2 million contract a few years back.
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His friends, Dante and Skip pancake, among others, are honest though. ::)
"Magnum" mentioned here is Disgusted/Jim from Getbig. "Killerstack" = me.
Of course, after these posts I kept getting PM's from people who said they heard directly from Hany's camp/his trainees, Phil's mouth etc how Heath uses insulin, e.g. 20iu post workout. They just didn't want to get involved in the debate publicly. :D ::)
TWENTY IU'S POSTWORKOUT???? ARE YOU OR IS HE FUCKING INSANE????
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faildo and adrain is my favorite.
adrain posted on bodybuilding.com, all these claims of being natural, with big ol gyno. never made sense to me
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TWENTY IU'S POSTWORKOUT???? ARE YOU OR IS HE FUCKING INSANE????
I take it you're being sarcastic. That's "nothing" of course, a piss in the ocean. But it's still something, it's not nothing. But I guess stuff like this doesn't count since it's so little. Like with juice under a gram being natural, insulin under 60iu means "never used it".
what about 'groink'?
lol
a nice enough guy, but i cant believe he expects people to believe he's clean.
It's strange. Admit to doing coke and hillbilly heroin but never ever admit to juice. ???
The mighty falcon admits to smoking crack and heroin (ffs) but juice or even clenbuterol... that shit will give you prostate cancer... never did it never will. ::)
Then you have Matt C, Alex, Swede...
Very strange. :D
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I take it you're being sarcastic. That's "nothing" of course, a piss in the ocean. But it's still something, it's not nothing. But I guess stuff like this doesn't count since it's so little. Like with juice under a gram being natural, insulin under 60iu means "never used it".
It's strange. Admit to doing coke and hillbilly heroin but never ever admit to juice. ???
The mighty falcon admits to smoking crack and heroin (ffs) but juice or even clenbuterol... that shit will give you prostate cancer... never did it never will. ::)
Then you have Matt C, Alex, Swede...
Very strange. :D
I have never used slin but from what I remember when I used to read up on it bbers were using UP TO 10iu's pwo with 10 grams simple sugars per IU. I thought most start with 5-6 IU's and slowly build up, 20 would be Ronnie-esque. I would be shocked Heath was using that much at once. That's crazy.
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I have never used slin but from what I remember when I used to read up on it bbers were using UP TO 10iu's pwo with 10 grams simple sugars per IU. I thought most start with 5-6 IU's and slowly build up, 20 would be Ronnie-esque. I would be shocked Heath was using that much at once. That's crazy.
It ain't shit. Considering the amount of GH many of these guys take they could shoot 20iu and not eat at all and be fine. Some guys have to use slin all day long on account of the GH, or they go hyperglycemic (bad for organs). 20iu isn't much in these circumstances.
I don't recommend anyone take it but even a guy not on GH can handle 20iu if he knows how to time the carbs. No problem.
Shit, some in my area recommended 20iu before workout and another 30iu after... this to a guy who isn't a heavy GH user and only used 6-8iu previously. Overkill and reckless.
Milos says he did 40-60iu day and he was no Ronnie.
Ask Disgusted, some pros use up to 100iu a day (and I know a few Kamikazes have used waaay more than that).
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what about 'groink'?
lol
a nice enough guy, but i cant believe he expects people to believe he's clean.
of course groink is on the sauce, there is no need to even argue about it. It is that obvious 8)
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It ain't shit. Considering the amount of GH many of these guys take they could shoot 20iu and not eat at all and be fine. Some guys have to use slin all day long on account of the GH, or they go hyperglycemic (bad for organs). 20iu isn't much in these circumstances.
I don't recommend anyone take it but even a guy not on GH can handle 20iu if he knows how to time the carbs. No problem.
Shit, some in my area recommended 20iu before workout and another 30iu after... this to a guy who isn't a heavy GH user and only used 6-8iu previously. Overkill and reckless.
Milos says he did 40-60iu day and he was no Ronnie.
Ask Disgusted, some pros use up to 100iu a day (and I know a few Kamikazes have used waaay more than that).
remember van, your talking to methyl mike, who thinks he can go pro naturally. ;D
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remember van, your talking to methyl mike, who thinks he can go pro naturally. ;D
This is a weird place, so much trolling. He's just fucking with us, isn't he. ???
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TWENTY IU'S POSTWORKOUT???? ARE YOU OR IS HE FUCKING INSANE????
I have done it very often, I think I even did 40iu a day last year.
or maybe it was 20iu ?
I trained 2 times a day and would shoot it before every workout for a month or so.
weight increased but not as much as expected
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of course groink is on the sauce, there is no need to even argue about it. It is that obvious 8)
hey dont fuck with prime cuts,
he knows a guy who works the door at barcelona, and devils
fake cock power!!
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Then you have Matt C, Alex, Swede...
Ah, Van, you're nearly right, vis a vis, you're above list of scumbags keen to paint themselves as natural.
But, I have to remind you, that your above inclusion of Matt C requires soemwhat of a refresher.
Yes, at one point, Canning was keen to paint himself as a natural; a total scumbag, nonchalantly pulling the wool over the eyes of all and sundry with his "I'm clean" bullshit.
However, if you recall, the great Dan D posted a few screen dumps from Twat C's secret forum, wherein Mister Canning had previously confessed, of not only his MASSIVE use of steroids (a usage that covered several years, and cycles) but also, of his [Matt C's] immense fondness for the products of Axio Labs.
LOL, it does make one wonder why Canning didn't shut his shit website down after the Axio bust? I mean, given the way he was posting here shitting bricks, vis a vis, his father and Youtube, surely an international bust of a steroid lab - OF WHOM COULD COUNT MATTHEW CANNING AS A CUSTOMER - would have had Mister Canning running for the hills?
Only the most cynical would ever suggest Canning to be completely full of shit.
If you also note, all Canning could cough by way of a rebuttle to the above happening, was his charge that Duchaine was a subscriber to the fayre of transexuals; a rather weak charge given Duchaines epic, entertaining, not to mention, ejaculate inducing, Cute Transvestites Thread.
Hope things are well in Sweden.
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His friends, Dante and Skip pancake, among others, are honest though. ::)
"Magnum" mentioned here is Disgusted/Jim from Getbig. "Killerstack" = me.
Of course, after these posts I kept getting PM's from people who said they heard directly from Hany's camp/his trainees, Phil's mouth etc how Heath uses insulin, e.g. 20iu post workout. They just didn't want to get involved in the debate publicly. :D ::)
Yep I got a message on my facebook from from a guy who is on the boards who is trained by Hany and he mentioned in his email to me that Hany makes direct mention that the slin protocol was pretty similar to what Phil was doing. He said it wasn't really anything special. To be honest I couldn't care less how any of them take their slin. Skip claims to know exactly what Phil takes or doesn't take and I am at a loss as to how he would know this, but I'm sure Phil reads Getbig so I'm sure he could comment on anything that is written here if he chose to. I have nothing at all against Phil. He seems like a good guy.
It's funny how "some people" try to discredit me when they have no idea who I have trained or talked to. I have spoke to Milos on the phone a few times and in person. I have spoke to Chad Nichols while in King's room. I have spoke to Joe McNeil a few times on the phone. I have spoke to many pros one on one too. Now, we certainly weren't talking about the weather. It was shop talk and some of it was about what certain people were doing. A lot of people would probably like to know what was said, but believe me it was nothing exciting. There are only so many different ways to take steroids. My point is and not to brag believe me, but I've been around and when someone tries to piss down my back and tells me it's raining well you get my point.
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Ah, Van, you're nearly right, vis a vis, you're above list of scumbags keen to paint themselves as natural.
But, I have to remind you, that your above inclusion of Matt C requires soemwhat of a refresher.
Yes, at one point, Canning was keen to paint himself as a natural; a total scumbag, nonchalantly pulling the wool over the eyes of all and sundry with his "I'm clean" bullshit.
However, if you recall, the great Dan D posted a few screen dumps from Twat C's secret forum, wherein Mister Canning had previously confessed, of not only his MASSIVE use of steroids (a usage that covered several years, and cycles) but also, of his [Matt C's] immense fondness for the products of Axio Labs.
LOL, it does make one wonder why Canning didn't shut his shit website down after the Axio bust? I mean, given the way he was posting here shitting bricks, vis a vis, his father and Youtube, surely an international bust of a steroid lab - OF WHOM COULD COUNT MATTHEW CANNING AS A CUSTOMER - would have had Mister Canning running for the hills?
Only the most cynical would ever suggest Canning to be completely full of shit.
If you also note, all Canning could cough by way of a rebuttle to the above happening, was his charge that Duchaine was a subscriber to the fayre of transexuals; a rather weak charge given Duchaines epic, entertaining, not to mention, ejaculate inducing, Cute Transvestites Thread.
Hope things are well in Sweden.
It's hard to believe that Matt C could muster up enough courage to do something illegal, and use steriods...
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penis envy...
bench
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Yep I got a message on my facebook from from a guy who is on the boards who is trained by Hany and he mentioned in his email to me that Hany makes direct mention that the slin protocol was pretty similar to what Phil was doing. He said it wasn't really anything special. To be honest I couldn't care less how any of them take their slin. Skip claims to know exactly what Phil takes or doesn't take and I am at a loss as to how he would know this, but I'm sure Phil reads Getbig so I'm sure he could comment on anything that is written here if he chose to. I have nothing at all against Phil. He seems like a good guy.
It's funny how "some people" try to discredit me when they have no idea who I have trained or talked to. I have spoke to Milos on the phone a few times and in person. I have spoke to Chad Nichols while in King's room. I have spoke to Joe McNeil a few times on the phone. I have spoke to many pros one on one too. Now, we certainly weren't talking about the weather. It was shop talk and some of it was about what certain people were doing. A lot of people would probably like to know what was said, but believe me it was nothing exciting. There are only so many different ways to take steroids. My point is and not to brag believe me, but I've been around and when someone tries to piss down my back and tells me it's raining well you get my point.
and anyway Skip is the one I think who said: I train a lot of pro's but can't say they name because of their contractual obligations ? ::)
or was it Dante ?
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yup, Dave Palumbo
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and anyway Skip is the one I think who said: I train a lot of pro's but can't say they name because of their contractual obligations ? ::)
or was it Dante ?
I believe that was "Dante".
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Ah, Van, you're nearly right, vis a vis, you're above list of scumbags keen to paint themselves as natural.
But, I have to remind you, that your above inclusion of Matt C requires soemwhat of a refresher.
Yes, at one point, Canning was keen to paint himself as a natural; a total scumbag, nonchalantly pulling the wool over the eyes of all and sundry with his "I'm clean" bullshit.
However, if you recall, the great Dan D posted a few screen dumps from Twat C's secret forum, wherein Mister Canning had previously confessed, of not only his MASSIVE use of steroids (a usage that covered several years, and cycles) but also, of his [Matt C's] immense fondness for the products of Axio Labs.
LOL, it does make one wonder why Canning didn't shut his shit website down after the Axio bust? I mean, given the way he was posting here shitting bricks, vis a vis, his father and Youtube, surely an international bust of a steroid lab - OF WHOM COULD COUNT MATTHEW CANNING AS A CUSTOMER - would have had Mister Canning running for the hills?
Only the most cynical would ever suggest Canning to be completely full of shit.
If you also note, all Canning could cough by way of a rebuttle to the above happening, was his charge that Duchaine was a subscriber to the fayre of transexuals; a rather weak charge given Duchaines epic, entertaining, not to mention, ejaculate inducing, Cute Transvestites Thread.
Hope things are well in Sweden.
Matt C juiced? Would have never guessed.
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Yep I got a message on my facebook from from a guy who is on the boards who is trained by Hany and he mentioned in his email to me that Hany makes direct mention that the slin protocol was pretty similar to what Phil was doing. He said it wasn't really anything special. To be honest I couldn't care less how any of them take their slin. Skip claims to know exactly what Phil takes or doesn't take and I am at a loss as to how he would know this, but I'm sure Phil reads Getbig so I'm sure he could comment on anything that is written here if he chose to. I have nothing at all against Phil. He seems like a good guy.
It's funny how "some people" try to discredit me when they have no idea who I have trained or talked to. I have spoke to Milos on the phone a few times and in person. I have spoke to Chad Nichols while in King's room. I have spoke to Joe McNeil a few times on the phone. I have spoke to many pros one on one too. Now, we certainly weren't talking about the weather. It was shop talk and some of it was about what certain people were doing. A lot of people would probably like to know what was said, but believe me it was nothing exciting. There are only so many different ways to take steroids. My point is and not to brag believe me, but I've been around and when someone tries to piss down my back and tells me it's raining well you get my point.
The day Phil Heath comes on here and honestly talks about any of his gear usage shall be the day I wake up with Eva Mendez lying naked in bed waiting for round two. SOOOOOO, that would be a 0.00000000000000000000----------------->.00000000 chance.
He would have literally nothing to gain and could lose sponsorship/credibility. Would be nice to know though, if only to satiate one's own curiosity. I'm actually more interested in knowing what he achieved clean before hitting the sauce, I think that would be very interesting actually. Would show just how big a gap there is between average joe and ifbb pro ya dig?
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gh15- What about Tom Princess- "Steroids are just a finishing touch..." etc?! Come on broseph, you are slacking on this one.
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It's hard to believe that Matt C could muster up enough courage to do something illegal, and use steriods...
Matt C juiced? Would have never guessed.
Matt C is one of the biggest frauds .. self inflated entrepreneurs ... and closeted queers that this bodybuilding industry has spawned
His "secrets" are his demons ... and if anyone who visits his "popular" high rated forum can't tell how mentally deranged he is .. well .. I guess he has succeeded in keeping his "cloaked" homosexuality and gear infatuation "under cover" .. mind you .. when people use gear they eat .. he's borderline anorexic .. so he can shoot his ass till the cows come home and unless he eats all it does is give him the satisfaction of saying ..
" I am simply stating the factual claim that no human being exists in my city of 100,000+ who is both stronger and smarter than I am."
(http://i54.tinypic.com/ouba1h.jpg)
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he can shoot his ass till the cows come home
bad mental image first thing this morning, thanks alot
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It's strange. Admit to doing coke and hillbilly heroin but never ever admit to juice. ???
The mighty falcon admits to smoking crack and heroin (ffs) but juice or even clenbuterol... that shit will give you prostate cancer... never did it never will. ::)
Very strange. :D
the truth can be strange
i even researched insulin and dnp... insulin seemed the most tempting since so many people use it for all kinds of reasons but again like other roids they seemed to have permenant effects that i didnt want, mainly of the cosmetic type. dnp seemed like it would kill me as well
but the time i hit up some crizack rocks, i figured hey its out of your system in one day it cant hurt
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bad mental image first thing this morning, thanks alot
LOL :D
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LOL :D
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the truth can be strange
i even researched insulin and dnp... insulin seemed the most tempting since so many people use it for all kinds of reasons but again like other roids they seemed to have permenant effects that i didnt want, mainly of the cosmetic type. dnp seemed like it would kill me as well
but the time i hit up some crizack rocks, i figured hey its out of your system in one day it cant hurt
Asscoiate Falcon Scientist approved.
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I agree Priest, Willet and Skip are amongst the biggest bullshitters around.
And this guy Faildo is claiming natural over at the MD forums and most of the people there believe him. ::) I was this naive once, but its sickening how they lie and then people support them and say we're "haters" for not doing the same.
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the truth can be strange
i even researched insulin and dnp... insulin seemed the most tempting since so many people use it for all kinds of reasons but again like other roids they seemed to have permenant effects that i didnt want, mainly of the cosmetic type. dnp seemed like it would kill me as well
but the time i hit up some crizack rocks, i figured hey its out of your system in one day it cant hurt
it makes absolutely no sense
no offence
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it makes absolutely no sense
no offence
steroids always beleived to be dangerous and have permenant effects
drugs are much more widespread thus beleived less harmful but more addictive
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faildo and adrain is my favorite.
adrain posted on bodybuilding.com, all these claims of being natural, with big ol gyno. never made sense to me
HATER'
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I'd say Chris Faildo since he has posted fairly frequently on Getbig. That guy is full of so much bullshit he doesn't even need a tanning booth.
Why be a HATER?
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of course groink is on the sauce, there is no need to even argue about it. It is that obvious 8)
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::) right back at you 8)
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::) right back at you 8)
If a person has ANY muscle or atleast Two abs showing this board screams ALL DRUGS! Its a very sad BOARD
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I'm not sure if that is true man, this drug call usually comes up when someone is relatively lean while carrying a decent amount of muscle. You see, a truly lifetime natural fella just CAN NOT carry a decent amount of muscle while being relatively lean (sub-7)
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If a person has ANY muscle or atleast Two abs showing this board screams ALL DRUGS! Its a very sad BOARD
Then leave and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way back to MD......
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" I am simply stating the factual claim that no human being exists in my city of 100,000+ who is both stronger and smarter than I am."
Stronger and smarter, Mattzi may be, but 'constructing' a proper sentence eludes him.
"I am stating that no one in my city is stronger or smarter than me."
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Aquiles >:(
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Stronger and smarter, Mattzi may be, but 'constructing' a proper sentence eludes him.
"I am stating that no one in my city is stronger or smarter than me."
LOL
I love it
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The day Phil Heath comes on here and honestly talks about any of his gear usage shall be the day I wake up with Eva Mendez lying naked in bed waiting for round two. SOOOOOO, that would be a 0.00000000000000000000----------------->.00000000 chance.
He would have literally nothing to gain and could lose sponsorship/credibility. Would be nice to know though, if only to satiate one's own curiosity. I'm actually more interested in knowing what he achieved clean before hitting the sauce, I think that would be very interesting actually. Would show just how big a gap there is between average joe and ifbb pro ya dig?
Below is what he achieved without the sauce:
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and anyway Skip is the one I think who said: I train a lot of pro's but can't say they name because of their contractual obligations ? ::)
or was it Dante ?
Skip is the one who has said he trains pros in europe but cant mention who they are because of "contractual" reasons.
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It ain't shit. Considering the amount of GH many of these guys take they could shoot 20iu and not eat at all and be fine. Some guys have to use slin all day long on account of the GH, or they go hyperglycemic (bad for organs). 20iu isn't much in these circumstances.
I don't recommend anyone take it but even a guy not on GH can handle 20iu if he knows how to time the carbs. No problem.
Shit, some in my area recommended 20iu before workout and another 30iu after... this to a guy who isn't a heavy GH user and only used 6-8iu previously. Overkill and reckless.
Milos says he did 40-60iu day and he was no Ronnie.
Ask Disgusted, some pros use up to 100iu a day (and I know a few Kamikazes have used waaay more than that).
No wonder why Milos looks 60 years old. Love Van's posts though
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Matt C is one of the biggest frauds .. self inflated entrepreneurs ... and closeted queers that this bodybuilding industry has spawned
His "secrets" are his demons ... and if anyone who visits his "popular" high rated forum can't tell how mentally deranged he is .. well .. I guess he has succeeded in keeping his "cloaked" homosexuality and gear infatuation "under cover" .. mind you .. when people use gear they eat .. he's borderline anorexic .. so he can shoot his ass till the cows come home and unless he eats all it does is give him the satisfaction of saying ..
" I am simply stating the factual claim that no human being exists in my city of 100,000+ who is both stronger and smarter than I am."
(http://i54.tinypic.com/ouba1h.jpg)
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Lmao! Matt has made three threads titled "who is the most handsome pro" some quotes from matty
on various bbers...start with frank mcgath
"hes a good looking guy to boot"
"can you really deny that Frank is a good looking guy"
on Dennis Newman
"Is this picture of Dennis Newman the perfect man?"
Gunter Schlerkamp
"the most handsome pro is gunter- was there ever any doubt? tall blonde and handsome"
rest my case
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The day Phil Heath comes on here and honestly talks about any of his gear usage shall be the day I wake up with Eva Mendez lying naked in bed waiting for round two. SOOOOOO, that would be a 0.00000000000000000000----------------->.00000000 chance.
He would have literally nothing to gain and could lose sponsorship/credibility. Would be nice to know though, if only to satiate one's own curiosity. I'm actually more interested in knowing what he achieved clean before hitting the sauce, I think that would be very interesting actually. Would show just how big a gap there is between average joe and ifbb pro ya dig?
Would rather know what Phil looked like on average gym rat doses.
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You guys should see me now.....I'm fucking gigantic
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You guys should see me now.....I'm fucking gigantic
raising my hand saying " I need a new groinkster or groinkanater picture" ;D ;)
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You guys should see me now.....I'm fucking gigantic
I am sure you are man 8)
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I agree Priest, Willet and Skip are amongst the biggest bullshitters around.
And this guy Faildo is claiming natural over at the MD forums and most of the people there believe him. ::) I was this naive once, but its sickening how they lie and then people support them and say we're "haters" for not doing the same.
Well, If the guy took an IOC test, it would just garner him more publicity. I feel he will plead the fif, like Bonds and Clemens have. One, two, three, four, fif!!
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You guys should see me now.....I'm fucking gigantic
bcause a fella lifting for three decades can still make dramatic improovements in the physique...drug free too :D ::)
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His friends, Dante and Skip pancake, among others, are honest though. ::)
"Magnum" mentioned here is Disgusted/Jim from Getbig. "Killerstack" = me.
Of course, after these posts I kept getting PM's from people who said they heard directly from Hany's camp/his trainees, Phil's mouth etc how Heath uses insulin, e.g. 20iu post workout. They just didn't want to get involved in the debate publicly. :D ::)
Even if Phil said he didn't use insulin...hips lips may say, but his moon face when in contest shape, tells a diff story...
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Would rather know what Phil looked like on average gym rat doses.
I would like to know as well.
Phil since you read this forum, what up? I train in San Jose. Get the hell over here and let me own you on back and in between sets we can discuss the dirty dirty. I will even sign a promissory note stating I will not divulge your secrets online. Just curious. If you cannot row more than 315, please do not waste my time.
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bcause a fella lifting for three decades can still make dramatic improovements in the physique...drug free too :D ::)
How would you know?...you probably haven't made it to the gym 4 times in a row your whole life :)
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How would you know?...you probably haven't made it to the gym 4 times in a row your whole life :)
Perhaps his weekly membership at Curves keeps lapsing.....
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Perhaps his weekly membership at Curves keeps lapsing.....
Yes i think you may be on to something there :D
or perhaps his boyfriend doesn't like "muscley" boys, and won't let him go to the gym ?
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Groink, you mentioned adding 30lbs over 10 years, so "only" 3lbs a year.
Thing is, it never happens like that. No one adds an even amount of muscle tissue on a yearly basis, or even close. Never happens. Never. Ever. :D
This is a common argument by the natural though. "Hey I only added 1-2lbs a year on average, that's possible all natural". The reality is that they added 95% of that when they hopped on the drugs 15 years ago. Now they're still on the same drugs and maybe another 2lbs heavier - if lucky.
Look at Faildo. All juiced up and no great gains (looking at scale). Average gain per year is miniscule. Still a long term drug addict, nothing natural about him. :D
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Groink, you mentioned adding 30lbs over 10 years, so "only" 3lbs a year.
Thing is, it never happens like that. No one adds an even amount of muscle tissue on a yearly basis, or even close. Never happens. Never. Ever. :D
This is a common argument by the natural though. "Hey I only added 1-2lbs a year on average, that's possible all natural". The reality is that they added 95% of that when they hopped on the drugs 15 years ago. Now they're still on the same drugs and maybe another 2lbs heavier - if lucky.
Look at Faildo. All juiced up and no great gains (looking at scale). Average gain per year is miniscule. Still a long term drug addict, nothing natural about him. :D
absolutely.....I really haven't gotten "bigger" in years. I just look more muscular as time goes on.
except about a year an a half ago......I ate like a fucking PIG and got up to 265, smooth as shit though.
right now i weigh 246 lbs and i look the best i have in over 5 years. in those pics everyone says i am "tiny" in i weighed 215-220 lbs and that was 15 fucking years ago and I WAS DOING REC DRUGS LIKE A MADMAN.
I was high as fuck in both those pics....the guy to my left was my best friend (still is) and he used to lecture me constantly about pissing my life away with the coke
.I finally listened and when i stopped getting high I put 15 lbs of muscle on in 7 months...It was freaky.
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Muscle growth isn't a gradual process, it occurs in spurts. My best "spurt" was 13 pounds in 6 weeks, all natural I might add.
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Muscle growth isn't a gradual process, it occurs in spurts. My best "spurt" was 13 pounds in 6 weeks, all natural I might add.
you forgot to add that you were a true 6% and that your pics are here somewhere to confirm it.
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you forgot to add that you were a true 6% and that your pics are here somewhere to confirm it.
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