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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: cephissus on January 30, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
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guy is a trainer who posts his vids on youtube and proclaims his natural status loudly at every opportunity.
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Yea Natural ::) ::)
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Could be. If he were using hgh he'd have broken the 5ft barrier.
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Why not ?
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Maybe not ??? great physique
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seriously, how the fuck is it that the Natural guys are HUGER tools than the guys on the gas?!?!?!
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I would say very likely natural. Has that look. Dunno how else to describe it.
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On a fairly low dose.
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yeah he seems like the kind of guy that would never touch steroids ::)
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1.5-2 grams.
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best natural ever...
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yeah he seems like the kind of guy that would never touch steroids ::)
I'm not sure what the fuck that was but it certainly does not prove he uses anything. His physique is nothing special, no onion thin skin no bulging shoulders no vascularity not much of anything special. Your average guy with decent genes can achieve this in 4-5 years of consistent training and diet. And his form is just AWFUL I hope that is not how he usually trains...
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No he has used anabolic steroids..I say that with 100% certainty...HTH
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They dont do illegal drugs in Vietnam...
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Honestly, if you have to ask if someone is natural, then chances are that they are not natural.
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yeah he seems like the kind of guy that would never touch steroids ::)
Yeah, no help from the guy getting a tricep workout at the same time..... ::)
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No he has used anabolic steroids..I say that with 100% certainty...HTH
you can tell that just by tasting his semen?
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why do people compete Naturally?
I mean, is it a "moral" thing or is it because they are too poor to afford gear?
if it is because of "morals" then that person is a total fucking retard
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I think not.
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I think not.
epic chin up bar...
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That dude is a fuckin' bitch. Listen to his little hissy fit at the end of the video.
F@ggot isn't natural either.
Yeah, no help from the guy getting a tricep workout at the same time..... ::)
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guy is a trainer who posts his vids on youtube and proclaims his natural status loudly at every opportunity.
I don't see any reason to doubt him. He has a good build, but nothing WOW
I see naturals better than him everyday
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why do people compete Naturally?
I mean, is it a "moral" thing or is it because they are too poor to afford gear?
if it is because of "morals" then that person is a total fucking retard
It was a challenge. After a while I started seeing how much I was putting into doing the shows vs. getting back and said no more. Instead of spending all the money to compete...I took the girlfriend to jamaica for a week. Had a hell of a lot more fun, and wasnt miserable for 12 weeks.
JNN....who did ya talk to about getting your SN changed?
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It was a challenge. After a while I started seeing how much I was putting into doing the shows vs. getting back and said no more. Instead of spending all the money to compete...I took the girlfriend to jamaica for a week. Had a hell of a lot more fun, and wasnt miserable for 12 weeks.
JNN....who did ya talk to about getting your SN changed?
good to hear that you found life after competing
PM Ron to get your SN changed
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I don't see any reason to doubt him. He has a good build, but nothing WOW
I see naturals better than him everyday
where do you lift?!
guy looks way better than anyone at my test-filled gym!
:o
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the weird thing about natural guys is, they need to say how they don't use steroids 50 times a day. i don't do heroin, but i don't feel the need to tell everyone i meet that i don't use it.
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the weird thing about natural guys is, they need to say how they don't use steroids 50 times a day. i don't do heroin, but i don't feel the need to tell everyone i meet that i don't use it.
Exactly....just keep lifting, because in reality, no one cares.
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this Tran guy is not LIFETIME natural
NOT in a zillion years
im sure GH15 can confirm this
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anyone who even thinks this guys MIGHT be natural really doesn't know bodybuilding...
you know how there are some people who have really bad response to the juice? or just can't get big no matter what they use due to bad response or poor structure?
those are the guys that prance around like little fairies singing "i'm a natural! steroids are for losers!" all day long...
seems these days anyone who uses as much as the big guys but can't get big will just automatically say "i'm natural" to avoid being humiliated by saying "I use 3 grams of gear just to look like a big midget"...
i know this for a fact...
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Honestly, if you have to ask if someone is natural, then chances are that they are not natural.
That is true. If there were true naturals around, no-one would question their state of naturalism.
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anyone who even thinks this guys MIGHT be natural really doesn't know bodybuilding...
you know how there are some people who have really bad response to the juice?
Does this look like *bad response* to juice?
I’d say he's responding very well.
That’s what we’re looking at - a guy who's responding very well to a low dose of gear.
I think not.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=364668.0;attach=400553;image)
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why do people compete Naturally?
I mean, is it a "moral" thing or is it because they are too poor to afford gear?
if it is because of "morals" then that person is a total fucking retard
It gives you a better sense of accomplishment and makes you feel proud for some reason.
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This is 100% natural.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/u3sz3lit/1296344617407.jpg)
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Does this look like *bad response* to juice?
I’d say he's responding very well.
That’s what we’re looking at - a guy who's responding very well to a low dose of gear.
1- i didn't say this guy had bad response to juice... i said mainly guys who have bad response to juice, AND LOOK GOOD on a lot of juice, are the once who prance around saying they're natural.
2- how do you know he's on low dose? i have a friend that looks like a natural on 500-1000 mg... very flat... on around 3 grams, he looks big and full and looks like he has good response to gear until you hear his dose.
people see someone who is small, with good muscle fullness and say he's either natural, or using very little... i've seen these "naturals" and know their dealers (atleast in this country)... hell, one "natural" was taking 250 mg anadrol per day for 8 weeks straight. looked tall, lean, not so big... that's 1750 mg of juice per week... just to look like a male model.
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This is 100% natural.
(http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/u3sz3lit/1296344617407.jpg)
So what I know a couple crackheads with bodies like that too.
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friends,,i gave you rules already in past,,
you will always play around 190-230lb 5'10 if only on steroid and gh 7lb per inch ofcourse,,if want thicker larger,,fuller the use of insulin get in picture with the hgh,,you can not be german ronny with out the use of both hgh and insulin ,,he is very short and very large and thick,,imposible with out insulin and hgh put together,,and sadly it is must in pro bodybuild now day,,and also among top amatur is be a must eventhough it should not,,
so as said very simple rule
165lb 5'10 stage...natural
180lb 5;10 stage ...homonized with steroid only
200+ 5'10 stage ....homonized with both steroid and hgh,,
220-230 5'10 on stage ....homonized with steroid hgh and insulin
now thos are minimums...its not ont he dot there is deviation few poundage here and there,,but this is pretty much bodybuld for you friends,,if you cant get to be 197lb on stage without use of insulin then bodybuild is not for you,,
if you cant get 180 lb on stage with out use of gh ...then bodybuild is not for you,,
etc etc etc
gh15 approved
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where do you lift?!
guy looks way better than anyone at my test-filled gym!
:o
Bodyworks - North London.
The dude looks quite big in the pic, but in the vids, notthing spectacular. Sorry.
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friends,,i gave you rules already in past,,
you will always play around 190-230lb 5'10 if only on steroid and gh 7lb per inch ofcourse,,if want thicker larger,,fuller the use of insulin get in picture with the hgh,,you can not be german ronny with out the use of both hgh and insulin ,,he is very short and very large and thick,,imposible with out insulin and hgh put together,,and sadly it is must in pro bodybuild now day,,and also among top amatur is be a must eventhough it should not,,
so as said very simple rule
165lb 5'10 stage...natural
180lb 5;10 stage ...homonized with steroid only
200+ 5'10 stage ....homonized with both steroid and hgh,,
220-230 5'10 on stage ....homonized with steroid hgh and insulin
now thos are minimums...its not ont he dot there is deviation few poundage here and there,,but this is pretty much bodybuld for you friends,,if you cant get to be 197lb on stage without use of insulin then bodybuild is not for you,,
if you cant get 180 lb on stage with out use of gh ...then bodybuild is not for you,,
etc etc etc
gh15 approved
Gotta love your 'minimums',,,,fpor bodybuild....durrrrrr 5'9, 186lbs....no "harmonized", no slin, no gh, nothing.....last show in 2008 - 188 on stage....same criteria. ::)
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Gotta love your 'minimums',,,,fpor bodybuild....durrrrrr 5'9, 186lbs....no "harmonized", no slin, no gh, nothing.....last show in 2008 - 188 on stage....same criteria. ::)
1.5-2 grams.
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1.5-2 grams.
Way off.....I liked using 10 - 12 grams every 5 - 6 days. Plus, I would walk around with an IV bag of GH....gotta muate ya know ::)
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1- i didn't say this guy had bad response to juice... i said mainly guys who have bad response to juice, AND LOOK GOOD on a lot of juice, are the once who prance around saying they're natural.
2- how do you know he's on low dose? i have a friend that looks like a natural on 500-1000 mg... very flat... on around 3 grams, he looks big and full and looks like he has good response to gear until you hear his dose.
people see someone who is small, with good muscle fullness and say he's either natural, or using very little... i've seen these "naturals" and know their dealers (atleast in this country)... hell, one "natural" was taking 250 mg anadrol per day for 8 weeks straight. looked tall, lean, not so big... that's 1750 mg of juice per week... just to look like a male model.
Yes. You also get the converse of that.
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I dont know.
But defenetely attainable with being natural
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the weird thing about natural guys is, they need to say how they don't use steroids 50 times a day. i don't do heroin, but i don't feel the need to tell everyone i meet that i don't use it.
True.
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the weird thing about natural guys is, they need to say how they don't use steroids 50 times a day. i don't do heroin, but i don't feel the need to tell everyone i meet that i don't use it.
x3
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I think I had a pretty good response to anabolics. These pics are only 2 1/2 years apart and my doses were very low....due to being overly concerned about health. (My dad was a health freak and raised me to be that way.)I sometimes wonder what I would have looked like had I continued to compete and upped my doses considerably. I think I could have gotten fairly big.
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I think I had a pretty good response to anabolics. These pics are only 2 1/2 years apart and my doses were very low....due to being overly concerned about health. (My dad was a health freak and raised me to be that way.)I sometimes wonder what I would have looked like had I continued to compete and upped my doses considerably. I think I could have gotten fairly big.
Holy shit! That's a big change. Drugs were better back then.
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anyone who even thinks this guys MIGHT be natural really doesn't know bodybuilding...
you know how there are some people who have really bad response to the juice? or just can't get big no matter what they use due to bad response or poor structure?
those are the guys that prance around like little fairies singing "i'm a natural! steroids are for losers!" all day long...
seems these days anyone who uses as much as the big guys but can't get big will just automatically say "i'm natural" to avoid being humiliated by saying "I use 3 grams of gear just to look like a big midget"...
i know this for a fact...
somebody needs to reroute any thread that has 'natural' in it to this post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Lots of abusers with a shitty response to gear in this thread, who want to make out that everyone is mega dosing.
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somebody needs to reroute any thread that has 'natural' in it to this post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cant stop looking at your avatar
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my 3 yr old son looks taller then him :(
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I would say very likely natural. Has that look. Dunno how else to describe it.
that's one video. how about these pics?
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Gotta love your 'minimums',,,,fpor bodybuild....durrrrrr 5'9, 186lbs....no "harmonized", no slin, no gh, nothing.....last show in 2008 - 188 on stage....same criteria. ::)
sombody need to take the balls you dont have and feed them to shark,,you lieing piece of balonie,,atleast you should not tell height so people may think you 6'5 and can pass for clean,,this is HOMONIZED bodybuildr,,this is LIAR HORMONIZED BODYBUILDER,,this is nto natural by any means,,this is hormonized ! both pro hormone that were legal in americana until nto long ago but were steroid and ofcoure also on hormones ,,186 on stage natural 5'9 GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE,,someone bann this retard
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I think I had a pretty good response to anabolics. These pics are only 2 1/2 years apart and my doses were very low....due to being overly concerned about health. (My dad was a health freak and raised me to be that way.)I sometimes wonder what I would have looked like had I continued to compete and upped my doses considerably. I think I could have gotten fairly big.
now here,, first picture is natural! ,,this fella is in the first picture natural! ,,thats the diff my friends,,
this is a true honest person with first picture presenteed,,notice naturals can not get large and dry ,,they can chose either large and soft,,or ripped and small,,again thids fella still was kind of soft for being ripped,,that what biroing me to point you that true natural never go under 5.5 % bodyfat ,,in most cases 6% ,,5.5 uually of the asian genetic,,they can reach 5.5 natural but very small fellas
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sombody need to take the balls you dont have and feed them to shark,,you lieing piece of balonie,,atleast you should not tell height so people may think you 6'5 and can pass for clean,,this is HOMONIZED bodybuildr,,this is LIAR HORMONIZED BODYBUILDER,,this is nto natural by any means,,this is hormonized ! both pro hormone that were legal in americana until nto long ago but were steroid and ofcoure also on hormones ,,186 on stage natural 5'9 GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE,,someone bann this retard
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Take the balls I dont have??? Ha....my balls were in your moms mouth last night and all she had to say was "mmm...mm..mmmmmmmm" Then I blew my load on her face and said "say hello to your raisin nutted son of yours"
You are melting down in that response. Tell everyone how much you like sucking cock for your cycles. Why havent you come forth with that sort of inmorfation,,,durrr,,,,,,harmonized,.,e,,s,,s,s,,,,,,,, HA HA HA HA
your jealousy is epic and mountainous....let me know when you want some personal instruction on 'mutationa muscleona' from someone who has done it better than you.
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Take the balls I dont have??? Ha....my balls were in your moms mouth last night and all she had to say was "mmm...mm..mmmmmmmm" Then I blew my load on her face and said "say hello to your raisin nutted son of yours"
You are melting down in that response. Tell everyone how much you like sucking cock for your cycles. Why havent you come forth with that sort of inmorfation,,,durrr,,,,,,harmonized,.,e,,s,,s,s,,,,,,,, HA HA HA HA
your jealousy is epic and mountainous....let me know when you want some personal instruction on 'mutationa muscleona' from someone who has done it better than you.
if you dont it better you would stand on stage next to the best,,,you failed at that right my friend? so not important to just deny steroid usage since you are in americana and try to impress 10 fucktard kidos on board,,you need to be honest with them,,explain them the reailty rather than lie,,they go give your girlfriend a kiss and confess ,,the truth shall ....
set
you
free
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if you dont it better you would stand on stage next to the best,,,you failed at that right my friend? so not important to just deny steroid usage since you are in americana and try to impress 10 fucktard kidos on board,,you need to be honest with them,,explain them the reailty rather than lie,,they go give your girlfriend a kiss and confess ,,the truth shall ....
set
you
free
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this is how I gained acceptance here - you must be truthful and tell it like it is
bullshit gets reconized here more so than men in thongs :o
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yeah he seems like the kind of guy that would never touch steroids ::)
Nicely filmed so you can't see his 1-2" ROM. What a toolbox. ::)
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if you dont it better you would stand on stage next to the best,,,you failed at that right my friend? so not important to just deny steroid usage since you are in americana and try to impress 10 fucktard kidos on board,,you need to be honest with them,,explain them the reailty rather than lie,,they go give your girlfriend a kiss and confess ,,the truth shall ....
set
you
free
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What the fuck did you just say? I couldnt make out more than 50% of your dribble....but here goes. I dont have to deny anything...I havnt,,,,harmONized anything,,,,,IMrpessng anyone? Not this douche bag.,,,,,you are the one claimng to be GoD uf harmONing,,,,
Ugh....how do you type like that and not want to punch yourself in the face is beyond me. The reality is that I did the best I could with my 'genetics' and only ever managed 4th in WNBF event. There were guys that were in the shows I did that I would seriously doubt were natural/clean/etc. The last show I did was the final straw. 6'2 and 232lbs and looking like he was 4weeks out of show. No fucking way.
How about this....I will give my girlfriend a kiss....then eat her snatch....then pound that pussy.....this is what I want you to do....
Give your schmoe a nice reach around.....dont spill a drop....say thank you...take the money/drugs and let people know just what you have to do to get the drugs you do. Talk about the truth then....seriously...why dont you come clean about what deviant bullshit you do.
Telling me about truth ::)
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the weird thing about natural guys is, they need to say how they don't use steroids 50 times a day. i don't do heroin, but i don't feel the need to tell everyone i meet that i don't use it.
Actually, natural guys don't even talk about their natural status because they don't care.
they don't say they are not on tren, test, d-bol, primo or whatever because they don't know what it is.
Why don't they know what it is ? Because they don't give a fuck they are natural and don't need to use them so why research on the drugs ?
NATURALS do not say they are naturals ;)
just think about it for a second
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Actually, natural guys don't even talk about their natural status because they don't care.
they don't say they are not on tren, test, d-bol, primo or whatever because they don't know what it is.
Why don't they know what it is ? Because they don't give a fuck they are natural and don't need to use them so why research on the drugs ?
NATURALS do not say they are naturals ;)
just think about it for a second
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Good post
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Exactly....just keep lifting, because in reality, no one cares.
Spot on!
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Actually, natural guys don't even talk about their natural status because they don't care.
they don't say they are not on tren, test, d-bol, primo or whatever because they don't know what it is.
Why don't they know what it is ? Because they don't give a fuck they are natural and don't need to use them so why research on the drugs ?
NATURALS do not say they are naturals ;)
just think about it for a second
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my point exactly.
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God has made a pretty interesting point when he said that true naturals never go under 5.5%, and I must say that ma man che certainly came very close to that mark.
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God has made a pretty interesting point when he said that true naturals never go under 5.5%, and I must say that ma man che certainly came very close to that mark.
I think I was under 5.5%
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I think I had a pretty good response to anabolics. These pics are only 2 1/2 years apart and my doses were very low....due to being overly concerned about health. (My dad was a health freak and raised me to be that way.)I sometimes wonder what I would have looked like had I continued to compete and upped my doses considerably. I think I could have gotten fairly big.
you have a great physique there
your 1st pic adn 2nd pic: alot of ppl would claim theyre Natural looking liek that- thanks for your honesty!
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Good post
x2!
drug free for life = LIAR
exposed by GH 15!
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So I guess that we need God to deliver the final verdict ;D I think that you were under 5.5% as well, but I don't want to have to suffer from God's wrath 8)
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my point exactly.
x2!
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now here,, first picture is natural! ,,this fella is in the first picture natural! ,,thats the diff my friends,,
this is a true honest person with first picture presenteed,,notice naturals can not get large and dry ,,they can chose either large and soft,,or ripped and small,,again thids fella still was kind of soft for being ripped,,that what biroing me to point you that true natural never go under 5.5 % bodyfat ,,in most cases 6% ,,5.5 uually of the asian genetic,,they can reach 5.5 natural but very small fellas
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So you don't think that it is ever possible to get somebody outside of these guidelines? It happens. I agree with you for the most past in regards to weight, one mans 185lb is not the same as another mans 185lb, so you still get a lot of variance in look.
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Actually, natural guys don't even talk about their natural status because they don't care.
they don't say they are not on tren, test, d-bol, primo or whatever because they don't know what it is.
Why don't they know what it is ? Because they don't give a fuck they are natural and don't need to use them so why research on the drugs ?
NATURALS do not say they are naturals ;)
just think about it for a second
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Problem being is that if you do have good genetics, train natural and put the hard work in you get a very good build and then everyone says Roids. So then you have to start stating the fact that you are natural.
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x2!
drug free for life = LIAR
exposed by GH 15!
and who the fuck are you again? He exposed his moms penchant for anal....and even then it was like throwing a hot dog down a hallway
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Hey Tuan, you have a great physique for sure, props man..... but I remember you saying you get up to 200 off season and compete 175-180 at 2/3% bf. at that weight and condition and your height is relatively the same as Stan McQuay when he competed as a middleweight. And we all know he isn't natural ;)
Just saying man, great genetics either way, keep doing your thing 8)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/12049/fullsize/12049-PVW-mcquay-s-01.jpg)
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Hey Tuan, you have a great physique for sure, props man..... but I remember you saying you get up to 200 off season and compete 175-180 at 2/3% bf. at that weight and condition and your height is relatively the same as Stan McQuay when he competed as a middleweight. And we all know he isn't natural ;)
Just saying man, great genetics either way, keep doing your thing 8)
(http://www.repetrope.com/assets/content/Media02/galleries/12049/fullsize/12049-PVW-mcquay-s-01.jpg)
of course he's natural.
he just has better genetics than stan mcquay and 99% of pro bodybuilders.
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Natural = bad response to drugs
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Gotta love your 'minimums',,,,fpor bodybuild....durrrrrr 5'9, 186lbs....no "harmonized", no slin, no gh, nothing.....last show in 2008 - 188 on stage....same criteria. ::)
so its ok to use drugs....as long as you can stick to your lie forever?...good logic, and good luck sticking to that lie...
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of course he's natural.
he just has better genetics than stan mcquay and 99% of pro bodybuilders.
lmao ;D
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so its ok to use drugs....as long as you can stick to your lie forever?...good logic, and good luck sticking to that lie...
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360 was the (free test?). I know the ranges go from 300 - 1100...but I expected mine to be maybe near 500. I eat clean (save for sundays), workout, dont drink, minimize stress (unless its g/f related). Didnt make sense. So, she prescribed 100mg of compounded (whatever the fuck that means) cyp weekly.
He's only doing 100mg test week...That my friends is natural...
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He's only doing 100mg test week...That my friends is natural...
Lies coming slowly undone. But we have still some way to go.
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Lies coming slowly undone. But we have still some way to go.
Theres no lie...I am waiting for SN to be changed by Ron. I dont want it anymore. Just like I swore once I crossed over, I would not compete in the WNBF anymore. Tke it for what its worth.