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Title: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 01, 2011, 10:17:32 PM
Reading about aliens and all that other bullshit made me question, if we're at the top of the food chain, then who fills the spot at #2?

I'm not even sure how to rate the 'top' species other than ours has the ability to destroy all others easily and effectively (with use of tools of course). 

...my guess is it's probably not even an animal, but most likely an insect.  I dunno, cockroaches?

What about dogs?  I mean, due to being "man's best friend" they get a leg up on other species due to the close ties with man, but then again dogs are just wolves that have been fucked up beyond all recognition, after all, by US...the number one life form on earth!

Any guesses?  I'm going to say the domesticated dog.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Emmortal on February 01, 2011, 10:19:18 PM
Great white sharks.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:20:11 PM
ligers

lion and tiger mix - rules everything on land

or bears maybe

black bears
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 10:21:48 PM
Without a doubt dogs/wolves, there next in line to take over, they have higher social intelligence scores than chimps. White folk it appears are already giving up on having child, and are adopting dogs instead, Ironically this is causing a dogs fertility rate to be growing while ours is dropping like a turd.

Anyhow this shit is stupid, were hardly on top, a little bacteria could fuck us out of existance in a year.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Master Blaster on February 01, 2011, 10:26:02 PM
your mom
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: kiwiol on February 01, 2011, 10:26:58 PM
Depends on the environment, since no other organism can dominate other species in more than one ecosystem.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:33:51 PM
dominant as far as what tho - inteligence

cause strength wise a fckn silverback would smash magnus ver magnuson str8 up

a gddamn hippopatamus is one of the most aggressive animals in the wild

humans are just smart, puts us at top

but when the world turns to shit only thg left will be cockroaches - la cucaracha
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: HTexan on February 01, 2011, 10:35:29 PM
Insects are the most abundant animal. But i think #2 should go to the animal that would be on the food top of the food chain if humans were removed from the planet. And fuck mosquitoes so I say mutant cats.  ;D
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 10:36:11 PM
Alright I've changed my mind, one fucking organism tomorrow could end humanity, in a fucking month. Rice something like 80 percent of the worlds calories come from it, we'd be fucked if it dissapeared.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:37:42 PM
Alright I've changed my mind, one fucking organism tomorrow could end humanity, in a fucking month. Rice something like 80 percent of the worlds calories come from it, we'd be fucked if it dissapeared.

what I have been sayin


drinkin water is becoming a fckn commodity - this shit is vital to our survival and its gettin a price put on it
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
what I have been sayin


drinkin water is becoming a fckn commodity - this shit is vital to our survival and its gettin a price put on it
water isn't a species, and rice has billions of organism dependant on it, and unlike other plants it don't need us to keep it going.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: MB_722 on February 01, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
2 dog
3 dolphin
4 elephant
5 women
6 eagle
7 crocodile

??
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 01, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
2 dog
3 dolphin
4 elephant
5 women
6 eagle
7 crocodile

??

An eagle or a crocodile would own a woman.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:42:50 PM
water isn't a species, and rice has billions of organism dependant on it, and unlike other plants it don't need us to keep it going.

but all plant life is dependent upon water - if no water NOTHING would exist

70% of earth is water

water is more than species it is species god of hormona
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: HTexan on February 01, 2011, 10:43:23 PM
but all plant life is dependent upon water - if no water NOTHING would exist

70% of earth is water

water is more than species it is species god of hormona
sun?
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 10:45:46 PM
but all plant life is dependent upon water - if no water NOTHING would exist

70% of earth is water

water is more than species it is species god of hormona
Water is a molecule if your looking at it that way, Hydrogen makes up like 90 percent of the universe so it trumps all.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 01, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
I was thinking perhaps moquitoes, but they're pretty fragile.

I suppose because we have the intelligence, that's what secures us at the top.  And since nature, by its 'nature' (har!), doesn't allow for 'dominant' species..at least one that crosses environments like mentioned earlier.  Dinosaurs, I guess.  And we know how that turned out.

So I suppose there might not be a #2, at least not in the manner that 'we' are #1.  

IT'S GOOD TO BE KING! ;D

That is all.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 01, 2011, 10:51:52 PM
Viruses. They can fuck everything up, and they are not even alive, they're like zombies.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:53:25 PM
Water is a molecule if your looking at it that way, Hydrogen makes up like 90 percent of the universe so it trumps all.

nice lundgren

i like your styles  8)
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: clownbaby on February 01, 2011, 11:10:56 PM
OBVIOUSLY TARANTULAS
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: cephissus on February 01, 2011, 11:28:00 PM
woman.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Meso_z on February 01, 2011, 11:56:41 PM
ANTS.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Parker on February 02, 2011, 12:29:02 AM
Dolphins, Killer Whales. Alll have complicated and complex social structures and languages that we can't figure out. Plus they have sonar, they can figure out if a person has a tumor or a child

Chimps and Bonobos, both have high intelligence, and social structures, and use tools, unlike dogs, who basically act like 3 yr olds. And dogs stay that way. Lots of couple Lundred get dogs as "practice children", not because they can't have kids, but because they unconsciously are practicing with the dogs or because they don't want to be alone.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Figo on February 02, 2011, 02:30:12 AM
tasmanian devil

in any environment, fuck anything up. doesnt need sunlight, water or oxygen. fierce, fierce creature.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TyUhukNHMVE/TOUtIg0lyeI/AAAAAAAABeY/aSEG5nqCiyM/s1600/tasmanian%2Bdevil.jpg)
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Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 02, 2011, 02:35:30 AM
doesnt need sunlight, water or oxygen.

just needs a regular supply of guano to survive.  impressive, impressive recycler.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 02, 2011, 03:16:58 AM
Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?

  The dominant species are insects. There are ten times more insects than all other species combined and their biomass is five times greater. Just ants have a combined biomass equivalent of Humans, and they are only one genus! We are not as dominant as insects. We cannot eliminate them no matter what we do, and even nuclear weapons cannot wipe them out but can exterminate all vertebrates.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Hulkotron on February 02, 2011, 05:06:45 AM
dominant as far as what tho - inteligence

cause strength wise a fckn silverback would smash magnus ver magnuson str8 up

a gddamn hippopatamus is one of the most aggressive animals in the wild

humans are just smart, puts us at top

but when the world turns to shit only thg left will be cockroaches - la cucaracha

I read somewhere that hippos cause the most animal-related death per year in Africa.

My vote is for the dinosaurs.  There's still some in China and Australia and Antarctica I think.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Meso_z on February 02, 2011, 05:58:33 AM
"Dorian Yates".  :)
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: no one on February 02, 2011, 06:25:56 AM
  The dominant species are insects. There are ten times more insects than all other species combined and their biomass is five times greater. Just ants have a combined biomass equivalent of Humans, and they are only one genus! We are not as dominant as insects. We cannot eliminate them no matter what we do, and even nuclear weapons cannot wipe them out but can exterminate all vertebrates.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

shut up, stupid.

#2 has to be polar bears- the only animal that will hunt and track a human to kill for food.

i really liked dolphins as someone said. if this list was based in intelligence rather than top of the food chain id say great answer.

Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 06:39:21 AM
With humans being #1, I'd probably say muslims are #2.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: mass243 on February 02, 2011, 06:43:14 AM
"Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?"


I think woman comes second... although it's a tight competition with chimpanzees...



 ;D

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Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 06:45:46 AM
Hahaha ouch  ;D

 ;D  Note, I didn't say Arabs or Persians, who I have NO problem with, my friend....
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 02, 2011, 07:16:38 AM
in before someone says "what persians? persia doesn't exist anymore, brutal people living in the past, I am italian, do I call myself roman? lolol"

Touche.... although "huge Aryan bastards" might take offense....  ;D
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 02, 2011, 08:42:17 AM
shut up, stupid.

#2 has to be polar bears- the only animal that will hunt and track a human to kill for food.

i really liked dolphins as someone said. if this list was based in intelligence rather than top of the food chain id say great answer.



  Your username suits you. You truly are "no one" literally as well as metaphorically.

  And polar bears are not as dominant as insects. How do you define "dominant"? Biggest and strongest? An insect couldn't kill a polar bear, but the biomass of insects is thousands of times greater. A swarm of locusts could eat a polar bear alive and a Nile river mosquito could kill the polar bear with a single bite by infecting it with Nile River sickness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on February 02, 2011, 08:48:11 AM
Were all screwed  ;D
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: no one on February 02, 2011, 01:58:06 PM
  Your username suits you. You truly are "no one" literally as well as metaphorically.

  And polar bears are not as dominant as insects. How do you define "dominant"? Biggest and strongest? An insect couldn't kill a polar bear, but the biomass of insects is thousands of times greater. A swarm of locusts could eat a polar bear alive and a Nile river mosquito could kill the polar bear with a single bite by infecting it with Nile River sickness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE



shut up, stupid.


Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 02, 2011, 02:00:54 PM


  You have no arguments, hence your "shut up, stupid" reply. Want to see stupid? Grab a mirror...

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 02, 2011, 03:21:42 PM
Albino chimps hands down
All corn fed.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Natural Man on February 02, 2011, 03:29:43 PM
there are wars inside the human specie.... gender war and race war. The real question is how are they going to end, and what specie is going to reign over earth if these wars inside the human specie end with our total eradication. I d say chimps, orang outan, gorillas would evolve into humans again after millions of years.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 02, 2011, 04:28:45 PM
So I'm kinda surprised there's no conclusion on what #2 is.  I think a recurring issue is the definition of what makes man the dominant species.  I sure as fuck don't know, other than our self awareness and intelligence.  Perhaps that's what makes it possible for only one creature to be on top, but that's kind of an unfair advantage.

If all humans disappeared tomorrow, what species would rise to the top as the most abundant and dominant species?  Dolphins...nah, sharks keep them in check.  Sharks?  They're ok but only in water.  Lions, tigers, bears...ditto.

I'm thinking mosquitoes.  Those fucking things can spread disease and are impossible to eradicate...better than roaches, in that respect.  But they can't survive in the cold.

How bout gorillas?

I'm still thinking dogs.  Without humans, they'll just breed into the nastiest of the nasty and their pack mentality will allow them to hunt effectively.  Probably better than actual wolves, since they don't need as much food.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 02, 2011, 10:36:12 PM
Alright I've changed my mind, one fucking organism tomorrow could end humanity, in a fucking month. Rice something like 80 percent of the worlds calories come from it, we'd be fucked if it dissapeared.

There's underground small cities that house thousands of brilliant minds and  live in clean room type environments that will keep the human DNA moving forward.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: dragonfist on February 02, 2011, 11:13:49 PM
  The dominant species are insects. There are ten times more insects than all other species combined and their biomass is five times greater. Just ants have a combined biomass equivalent of Humans, and they are only one genus! We are not as dominant as insects. We cannot eliminate them no matter what we do, and even nuclear weapons cannot wipe them out but can exterminate all vertebrates.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Insect is not a species.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Alex23 on February 02, 2011, 11:23:53 PM
Reading about aliens and all that other bullshit made me question, if we're at the top of the food chain, then who fills the spot at #2?
I'm not even sure how to rate the 'top' species other than ours has the ability to destroy all others easily and effectively (with use of tools of course). 
...my guess is it's probably not even an animal, but most likely an insect.  I dunno, cockroaches?
What about dogs?  I mean, due to being "man's best friend" they get a leg up on other species due to the close ties with man, but then again dogs are just wolves that have been fucked up beyond all recognition, after all, by US...the number one life form on earth!
Any guesses?  I'm going to say the domesticated dog.

"reading" about aliens hey... you started questioning after you realized how big the gap is between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom...

The short answer is there isn't a #2 "spot"...


The evolutionary gap cannot be explained; it's much wider than the delta  of DNA between us and any other species.

How is it that NO OTHER SPECIES is remotely close to us in evolutionary terms... it took human kind roughly 13000 years to go from nomads douche to micro electronics and space exploration.. Darwin would suggest that there is a continuity and flow of evolutionary patterns between different species...

well there isn't... it's "them" then a 10 000 foot cliff, then us...

Only explanation is genetic manipulation by ancient aliens...
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Fallsview on February 02, 2011, 11:38:40 PM
Very easy answer.  People in NorCal should understand this.  Last time I was in Bluff Creek, the vocalizations were enough to scare the crap out of you.

Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 03, 2011, 03:00:23 AM
Insect is not a species.

  Yes, they are a class of arthropods. I meant "the combined biomass of the species" when talking about insects. I used the plural.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Rome on February 03, 2011, 05:55:37 AM
(http://helablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/upright_gorilla.jpg) He's taken a good look at people and sees that it's his time. He's getting ready.
Colemanesque back development. :o
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: dragonfist on February 03, 2011, 06:25:26 AM
  Yes, they are a class of arthropods. I meant "the combined biomass of the species" when talking about insects. I used the plural.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

The question was which species takes the number two spot.  Insects are are not a single species.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Parker on February 03, 2011, 06:39:49 AM
So I'm kinda surprised there's no conclusion on what #2 is.  I think a recurring issue is the definition of what makes man the dominant species.  I sure as fuck don't know, other than our self awareness and intelligence.  Perhaps that's what makes it possible for only one creature to be on top, but that's kind of an unfair advantage.

If all humans disappeared tomorrow, what species would rise to the top as the most abundant and dominant species?  Dolphins...nah, sharks keep them in check.  Sharks?  They're ok but only in water.  Lions, tigers, bears...ditto.

I'm thinking mosquitoes.  Those fucking things can spread disease and are impossible to eradicate...better than roaches, in that respect.  But they can't survive in the cold.

How bout gorillas?

I'm still thinking dogs.  Without humans, they'll just breed into the nastiest of the nasty and their pack

mentality will allow them to hunt effectively.  Probably better than actual wolves, since they don't need as much food.
People give dogs way too much credit. Because they are gentic mutants made by man for man's specific purposes, they have too many genetic defects. Hip issues, skull issues, deafness, eye issues, blindness, kidney issues, leg issues, back issues, and many are breed specific or family specific. Even the mutts have issues, but not as much as the pure breed dogs.
It is due to man's breeding habits, creating dogs for narrow specialities that often resemble in nature niche predators like Smilodon, often called the Sabre tooth tiger. Smilodon came on scene in the era of megafauna, where the predators were big to take on the even bigger prey.
Smilodon had a stout body, with huge forelimb and chest muscles, exceptional back legs muscles, and a huge neck muscles. It had a mouth that could open wider than any big cat, yet it's teeth, were fragile from side blows. Thus, the thinkig it was a abuse predator that stab it's prey...analysis of it's skeleton showed emmense wear and tear on it's back and rear, meaning there was a lot of torque involved in what they were doing.

What happened? Well, when it's food supply, the mega-herbivores like Mammoths, started dying out, it could not adapt, due to it being a niche predator.

So, taking this knowledge, if dogs were to be successful in the wild, they would probably interbreed until you get something like the Dingo or African Wild dog. Dogs that have a mid range snout and are of medium build. All other dogs like the toy breeds and Giant breeds would have to disappear, as they really serve no purpose. This leaves, the hounds, sight hounds, working dogs like the German Shepard and Doberman, and the terriers and Molosser terriers...these are the dogs that would make up the genetic material for a dog that could be great in the wild...

But, to be number 2, one needs language, the ability to think especially forethought and use tools, and  development of culture---Which chmps in the wild have shown the ability for all these.  
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: CalvinH on February 03, 2011, 06:40:02 AM
Vagina.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: Parker on February 03, 2011, 06:50:05 AM
Vagina.
I agree, if in fact it is actually #1, but we have fooled ourselves with our own egos and hubris...that everything we do is for...vagina.
Title: Re: Man is the dominant species...what's the #2 spot?
Post by: tom joad on February 03, 2011, 06:59:05 AM
those creatures that were representing species nutrition at one of the expos.