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Title: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Meso_z on February 01, 2011, 11:28:41 PM
In about 2 months in going to diet just for myself, to look good for the summer.

Im gonna use test (norma)
sdrol (for the first time)

AND i was thinking either eq or deca...what would be the best choice? I have access to legit norma deca....while for eq...i dont have any strong connections and its a 50-50 to find good brands.

Now, deca ia considered as a "bulking" drug...lol...but if you eat like a pig you will look like one....

Does anyone have any experiences with deca while dieting?
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Arnold jr on February 02, 2011, 12:51:08 AM
Eat clean and you'll be fine. You might hold a little more water with deca but if you're diets good it won't be a big deal. And by hold more water I don't mean you'll be bloated and puffy, it just means a little more water and if your diets clean it won't be noticed by an untrained eye, which is all you really care about. Plus, you'll be fuller and stronger with deca. I say go deca. I'd never use anything if I was 50/50 on it.
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Meso_z on February 02, 2011, 02:27:11 AM
Eat clean and you'll be fine. You might hold a little more water with deca but if you're diets good it won't be a big deal. And by hold more water I don't mean you'll be bloated and puffy, it just means a little more water and if your diets clean it won't be noticed by an untrained eye, which is all you really care about. Plus, you'll be fuller and stronger with deca. I say go deca. I'd never use anything if I was 50/50 on it.
sounds good...i have access to legit deca..so i guess better use hg than ugl..

Antiestrogen? is proviron any good?

Its not for a contest so i wont go "all out" with diet, anti e's and such.
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 02, 2011, 04:17:52 AM
Stick with Deca and follow what Arnold posted, i used to avoid Deca but im using it now and its giving great results and im using it without Test :D
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Meso_z on February 02, 2011, 05:29:55 AM
Stick with Deca and follow what Arnold posted, i used to avoid Deca but im using it now and its giving great results and im using it without Test :D
:)

Deca is the "hg" Eq...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Luolamies on February 02, 2011, 08:53:14 AM
:)

Deca is the "hg" Eq...


Kind of, except it doesn't shoot your hemoglobin sky high and it stays longer in the system. If your not going "all out" do nolvadex for estrogen "control" also superdrol kicks ass (in a good way) and dries out you some...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Stavios on February 02, 2011, 09:19:10 AM
In about 2 months in going to diet just for myself, to look good for the summer.

Im gonna use test (norma)
sdrol (for the first time)

AND i was thinking either eq or deca...what would be the best choice? I have access to legit norma deca....while for eq...i dont have any strong connections and its a 50-50 to find good brands.

Now, deca ia considered as a "bulking" drug...lol...but if you eat like a pig you will look like one....

Does anyone have any experiences with deca while dieting?

on this picture I was taking 600mg of deca

didn'T "bloat" me
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: local hero on February 02, 2011, 09:24:42 AM
nice chunky chest right there,,,,

decca seems to get a bad rep these days, but its one of the best drugs out there for training with, as its already been said, if your diets good doesnt matter what your taking.....
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Meso_z on February 02, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
thanks guys.  :)
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Arnold jr on February 02, 2011, 03:58:11 PM
sounds good...i have access to legit deca..so i guess better use hg than ugl..

Antiestrogen? is proviron any good?

Its not for a contest so i wont go "all out" with diet, anti e's and such.

I'm not a proviron fan. I'd go with a low dose of adex...0.5mg/eod.

:)

Deca is the "hg" Eq...

Actually they're very different. That was a rumor started years ago when EQ first came out but has been shot down to death. Even Duchaine recanted that one and he was the one who started the rumor.
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 02, 2011, 05:14:51 PM
keep things basic and simple bro!! deca=APPROVED FOR HUMANS USAGE. so is dbol, so is TEST. eq= for horse.
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: g101 on February 03, 2011, 01:09:55 AM
nooooooooo

no test esti! tu va jamais comprendre  :P

my ultimate cycle will be deca eq tren masteron gh  8)
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: benchmstr on February 03, 2011, 01:18:32 PM
depends on how long you are running it..

under 16 weeks...dont use eq...as it wont do much for you

over 16 weeks...eq all the way..

bench
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: abijahmaniaco on February 03, 2011, 01:59:46 PM
if you're concerned about bloating, from what i've read, proviron is the way to go. from what they say it's a "dryer and harder look". it prevents the conversion to estrogen while others seem to just minimize the effects of estrogen by competing at the estrogen receptor. but i have yet to get my hands on the stuff.
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Meso_z on February 04, 2011, 12:35:06 AM
depends on how long you are running it..

under 16 weeks...dont use eq...as it wont do much for you

over 16 weeks...eq all the way..

bench
14-16 weeks deca....600-400 is it ok?
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: tbombz on February 04, 2011, 11:06:40 AM
depends on how long you are running it..

under 16 weeks...dont use eq...as it wont do much for you

over 16 weeks...eq all the way..

bench
bro science
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: tstmaniac on February 04, 2011, 02:26:08 PM
I started to see gains around 5 to 6 weeks from EQ
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 04, 2011, 04:40:46 PM
nooooooooo

no test esti! tu va jamais comprendre  :P

my ultimate cycle will be deca eq tren masteron gh  8)

no test? bhahaha you girly man
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: benchmstr on February 04, 2011, 05:17:57 PM
bro science
all AAS use for BB, and strength purposes is bro science...and trial and error..

bench
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: local hero on February 05, 2011, 04:17:01 AM
yeh nothing is cut and dry,,,,, some speak like there are proven actual fact,,,,

then you see a few poles who use only decca and dwarf anything youve seen in your gym, who dont know a thing about cycling or pct, the same big fuckers knocking out babies for fun...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 05, 2011, 05:14:17 AM
yeh nothing is cut and dry,,,,, some speak like there are proven actual fact,,,,

then you see a few poles who use only decca and dwarf anything youve seen in your gym, who dont know a thing about cycling or pct, the same big fuckers knocking out babies for fun...

X2, just take what you have and train

Local whats the popular cycles in the UK? some real big guys there
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: mcluvin on February 05, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
keep things basic and simple bro!! deca=APPROVED FOR HUMANS USAGE. so is dbol, so is TEST. eq= for horse.

What about Tren?  It's only approved for cattle and it's probably #2 in use rate behind Test?
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: local hero on February 05, 2011, 06:09:24 PM
X2, just take what you have and train

Local whats the popular cycles in the UK? some real big guys there


well if you beleived them, they take a few ml here and there,, touch of slin and maybe a teeny bit growth..... ive had one water bag swear blind he didnt use slin or growth and he went up 20lbs in contest weight in one year!

in uk short heavy cycles used to be the way everyone went, with the internet now, i think most people are more or less doing the same things
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: spude on February 06, 2011, 01:14:50 AM
Don't know 'bout uk but can give you guys some info of finland...
the holy triangel here seems to be sustanon-deca-dbol...75+% of juiceheads uses these simply 'cos they are easiest ones to get hold of
i, on the other hand, am not a huge fan of those...i prefer single-ester test, ena and/or prop depending on the situation, eq over deca for me, dbol i like to blast with every once in a while but in general i like keeping my oral use as low as possible, i agree there's special occasions when they are better than injects but otherwise i stick with injectables
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Luolamies on February 06, 2011, 03:08:58 AM
Don't know 'bout uk but can give you guys some info of finland...
the holy triangel here seems to be sustanon-deca-dbol...75+% of juiceheads uses these simply 'cos they are easiest ones to get hold of

I think it's allmost the same way in most of the Europe, guys use test, deca, dianabol the tried and true and there's nothing wrong with that, few if any i've met in different European countries use any "exotics" i think it's because of lack of knowledge and access, but of course some must use them, at least the guys who compete seriously. But for the average gym rat those three "old" drugs are more than enough...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: local hero on February 06, 2011, 04:08:15 AM
to be fair, you cant go wrong on them.. if youd dont grow on them 3, your doomed
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Luolamies on February 06, 2011, 05:16:21 AM
to be fair, you cant go wrong on them.. if youd dont grow on them 3, your doomed

Exactly.

Couple of guys that i've known have done legit sustanon 750 mg per week, 400 mg deca per week and 50 mg dianabol per day and only gained very very little if anything, then they ask what i take and it's usually 250-500 mg sustanon and maybe a little t-bol or d-bol and i still get what i want out of those so then they ask me what should they do? And few times i've said: "this game isn't for you!" Also many tend to "forget the importance" of food and training while on...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 06, 2011, 09:34:33 AM
2 months on 1500 test+900 deca and up 30lbs so far lol ridiculous. of course some water weight but can still see abs very well and zero moonface. .50 adex twice a week+ 1mg prami once a week do the job well zero sides  8)    when its over im ditching the deca, lower test to 500 and add tren at 500+dbol and maybe insulin. TEAM BLOW UP APPROVED
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Luolamies on February 06, 2011, 10:03:51 AM
2 months on 1500 test+900 deca and up 30lbs so far lol ridiculous. of course some water weight but can still see abs very well and zero moonface. .50 adex twice a week+ 1mg prami once a week do the job well zero sides  8)    when its over im ditching the deca, lower test to 500 and add tren at 500+dbol and maybe insulin. TEAM BLOW UP APPROVED

Good progress, props...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: local hero on February 06, 2011, 11:24:42 AM
how you spacing your shots out for that mate?
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 06, 2011, 11:42:22 AM
how you spacing your shots out for that mate?

very easy, monday= 3cc of test in one cheek, 3cc of deca in the other. and 3cc of test into one quad on thursday. I hate pinning
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 06, 2011, 11:43:32 AM
Good progress, props...

thanks
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Stavios on February 06, 2011, 09:22:51 PM
2 months on 1500 test+900 deca and up 30lbs so far lol ridiculous. of course some water weight but can still see abs very well and zero moonface. .50 adex twice a week+ 1mg prami once a week do the job well zero sides  8)    when its over im ditching the deca, lower test to 500 and add tren at 500+dbol and maybe insulin. TEAM BLOW UP APPROVED

I fucking hope for you that is works, that's almost 2.5g of gear  ;D

good job bro !!
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: spude on February 06, 2011, 10:47:20 PM
2 months on 1500 test+900 deca and up 30lbs so far lol ridiculous. of course some water weight but can still see abs very well and zero moonface. .50 adex twice a week+ 1mg prami once a week do the job well zero sides  8)    when its over im ditching the deca, lower test to 500 and add tren at 500+dbol and maybe insulin. TEAM BLOW UP APPROVED

you take any gh, mate?
'cos, in my opinion, that's already such a high dose that hgh would make you get more out of it...
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 07, 2011, 08:46:22 AM
you take any gh, mate?
'cos, in my opinion, that's already such a high dose that hgh would make you get more out of it...

I wish i had the money for gh but im just a poor ass student
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: abijahmaniaco on February 07, 2011, 11:03:15 AM
so your test is concentrated at 500mg/cc? wow. mine is 250mg/cc.
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: spude on February 07, 2011, 11:39:17 AM
I wish i had the money for gh but im just a poor ass student

nah..buy your "friends" as well and charge them double price...bb'ing is selfish  ;D
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: local hero on February 07, 2011, 01:18:57 PM
so your test is concentrated at 500mg/cc? wow. mine is 250mg/cc.


nope, that would be 750mg monday and 750mg fri if my maths is correct......
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 07, 2011, 05:13:32 PM
I fucking hope for you that is works, that's almost 2.5g of gear  ;D

good job bro !!

dont count the esters bro! lol
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: lesaucer on February 07, 2011, 05:14:22 PM
nah..buy your "friends" as well and charge them double price...bb'ing is selfish  ;D

I wish i was in the states
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: no one on February 08, 2011, 08:22:55 PM


see if you can find yourself some nandrolone phenylpropionate- NPP.

its a fast acting deca. no water retention. a lot of the same sides as tren, especially the nervous energy in the gym. gives you a nice full round look. this shit is the bomb.

Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: g101 on February 09, 2011, 12:26:06 AM
my jelfa dbol + hg deca + vet grade EQ will destroy you all  8) 8)

and GH  ;D
Title: Re: Big dilema. 2 choices...eq or deca.
Post by: Meso_z on February 09, 2011, 02:06:30 AM

see if you can find yourself some nandrolone phenylpropionate- NPP.

its a fast acting deca. no water retention. a lot of the same sides as tren, especially the nervous energy in the gym. gives you a nice full round look. this shit is the bomb.


im gonna try with the "regular" deca...im gonna start in 1.5month superdrol test and deca.

4th month off!! i cant believe i managed to go that "far" off.. :-X ::)

superdrol is from prim performance...norma test and deca. "clean" diet.

I will basically try to "grow while loosing bf%".

as for cardio i ride my bike to and from the gym (20+20 mins) 5 days a week.