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Title: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Master Blaster on February 03, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
Some pain in weight lifting feels kind of orgasmic. dj181 had a thread about the hardest "isolation" exercise (what the hell is wrong with that guy?) Any way, it came down to leg extension vs. calf raise. Personally I would way rather do leg extension any day. THAT pain will get you fucking tripping on shrooms.  :o

Fuck it, maybe it releases drugs from stored body fat asswipe, don't be so judgmental.

Anyhoo, leg extensions are one of the most !!  leet
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Fallsview on February 03, 2011, 10:29:49 PM

Fuck it, maybe it releases drugs from stored body fat asswipe, don't be so judgmental.



I fully do beleive this...no joke. (remember Titus' hormone levels were high in prison?)


STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Wiggs on February 03, 2011, 11:14:58 PM
Leg extensions to failure burn like a sumbitch.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Alex23 on February 03, 2011, 11:19:19 PM
Agree.... great burn....

another great one is delts from lateral raises.... my delts have always been pretty receptive so when I get a pump, fells like two bowling balls strapped to my clavicles ;D
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: tbombz on February 03, 2011, 11:30:47 PM
leg extensions are a waste of time except to warm up the knees and if your going to failure on them than you dont know how to train properly or you must be training for some kind of marathon leg extensions competition.



on the issue ofdrugs being relesased from fat..  absolutely.


on a related note, 700lb hack squats all the way till the cart hit bottom for three doubles today. yea buddy
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: coltrane on February 04, 2011, 07:37:21 AM
leg extensions are a waste of time except to warm up the knees and if your going to failure on them than you dont know how to train properly or you must be training for some kind of marathon leg extensions competition.



on the issue ofdrugs being relesased from fat..  absolutely.


on a related note, 700lb hack squats all the way till the cart hit bottom for three doubles today. yea buddy

Wrong.  THey help carve definition between the different quad muscles.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: kevcat on February 04, 2011, 07:55:29 AM
Try doing squats pussy
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Stavios on February 04, 2011, 08:22:01 AM
Dizzle, try doing the Trevor Smith fella workout on the leg extension ;)

I guarentee you will love it and your quads will get drastically better (this is specially tru for fellas with long legs )
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Grape Ape on February 04, 2011, 08:29:54 AM
Wrong.  THey help carve definition between the different quad muscles.


How?
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: coltrane on February 04, 2011, 08:32:30 AM

How?

Biomechanically I can't answer that.  I just know why i've read and heard from pros etc.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Grape Ape on February 04, 2011, 08:53:29 AM
Biomechanically I can't answer that.  I just know why i've read and heard from pros etc.

I've heard it too.  I just don't understand how, so therefore I can't accept it as true.  I would think diet would be more important.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Tito24 on February 04, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Ursus on February 04, 2011, 09:49:45 AM
Leg extensions are a good exercise and will add good size.

Tbombz train 3x2 won't build any muscle.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: JasonH on February 04, 2011, 01:06:28 PM
leg extensions are a waste of time except to warm up the knees and if your going to failure on them than you dont know how to train properly or you must be training for some kind of marathon leg extensions competition.



on the issue ofdrugs being relesased from fat..  absolutely.


on a related note, 700lb hack squats all the way till the cart hit bottom for three doubles today. yea buddy

Sometimes I wonder how much you actually know about training.

Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: epic_alien on February 04, 2011, 01:41:56 PM
leg extensions are a waste of time except to warm up the knees and if your going to failure on them than you dont know how to train properly or you must be training for some kind of marathon leg extensions competition.



on the issue ofdrugs being relesased from fat..  absolutely.


on a related note, 700lb hack squats all the way till the cart hit bottom for three doubles today. yea buddy
quoted for truth,

only do them to warm up knees, if at all,
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: dj181 on February 04, 2011, 01:59:46 PM
During the last 15 degrees of the movement the vastus medialus and lateralus are called into play, so supposedly extensions are a requirement for completely and fully developed quads.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: kofo on February 05, 2011, 12:06:06 AM
Leg Extension = best way to create chronic knee pain

Unless you are a pro, never do leg extensions, the will lead to knee injury. I really thought this was common knowledge
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Figo on February 05, 2011, 12:58:10 AM



on a related note, 700lb hack squats all the way till the cart hit bottom for three doubles today. yea buddy
whats your feet positioning, forward, back? and stance; close or wide?

back on the pad or leaning forward?

any which way, thats heavy, not sure bout muscle building benefits, but its heavy
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Meso_z on February 05, 2011, 12:59:56 AM
Ive "heard" women get horny when they do leg extensions. So thats considered the best exercise for them  ;D
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Figo on February 05, 2011, 01:06:54 AM
Ive "heard" women get horny when they do leg extensions. So thats considered the best exercise for them  ;D
I get horny when women do leg curls
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: local hero on February 05, 2011, 04:48:26 AM
Leg Extension = best way to create chronic knee pain

Unless you are a pro, never do leg extensions, the will lead to knee injury. I really thought this was common knowledge

pretty funny how they rehab knee injuries on this very knee wrecker!!!!

dont be fucking stupid, best way to get the blood pumping, and to me aswell as countless other who actualy have leg development, are pretty much a vital tool
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Mr Anabolic on February 05, 2011, 05:30:48 AM
Yeah maybe there's a good burn involved with high rep leg extensions, but it's not very difficult.

For pain + difficulty, try this... take 30-40% of your one rep max and try to squat it 50 times.  I've seen it turn men into babies  :'( 
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: kofo on February 05, 2011, 07:15:24 AM
pretty funny how they rehab knee injuries on this very knee wrecker!!!!

dont be fucking stupid, best way to get the blood pumping, and to me aswell as countless other who actualy have leg development, are pretty much a vital tool

Yes but then they do like 50 reps, but by all means if you wanna do this 8 reps to total failure be my guest...
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Nirvana on February 05, 2011, 08:00:25 AM
I use a spotter during pushups.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: FREAKgeek on February 05, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
Some pain in weight lifting feels kind of orgasmic. dj181 had a thread about the hardest "isolation" exercise (what the hell is wrong with that guy?) Any way, it came down to leg extension vs. calf raise. Personally I would way rather do leg extension any day. THAT pain will get you fucking tripping on shrooms.  :o

Fuck it, maybe it releases drugs from stored body fat asswipe, don't be so judgmental.

Anyhoo, leg extensions are one of the most !!  leet

high rep wrist curls get an honorable mention
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: tbombz on February 05, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
Wrong.  THey help carve definition between the different quad muscles.
well, that is true. but you gotta have a big piece of granite before you can start thinking about carving a statue  ;)

Dizzle, try doing the Trevor Smith fella workout on the leg extension ;)

I guarentee you will love it and your quads will get drastically better (this is specially tru for fellas with long legs )
i can do the close to the full stack with one leg on just about any leg extension machine for sets of 10. its an ok exercise but ill get into specifics why i dont like it  down below

Leg extensions are a good exercise and will add good size.

Tbombz train 3x2 won't build any muscle.
training 3X2 might not add a whole bunch of size from one workout. but youll never add a whole bunch of size from one workout. training super hevay, low reps, low volume will boost strength considerable, so my next workout i can use that heavy ass weight again and get a cfew more reps.  if i add in more sets i will be breaking down my muscle, not stimulating growth. stimulate, dont annihilate! -lee haney (but he could have benefited from training heavy and focusing on size instead of trying to pump his muscles with lighter weights)




guys... big muscle=strong muscle. and that means you can not have a big muscle unless it is first a strong muscle. you want size? you gotta get strong first.  focus on lifting super heavy weights with good form, and dont train so much that your sore for days and dont gain strength. . just a few very heavy sets shy of failure. and hit it again in a couple days. once you are lifting 400-500 lbs on every major exercise, then focus on adding in reps, but only go as fast as your body will let you, dont try to force growth by destroying the muscle, going to failure, drop sets, etc. all this does is cause excess muscle damage and destroy your ability to make significant growth after your workout.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: dj181 on February 05, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
That was a great post tbombz, and you are completely correct with what you said. Low volume and heavy ass weight is the way to go, and focus that low volume and heavy ass weight upon the major compound moves (benches, rows/chins/pulldowns, and squats/leg presses). Yeah, yeah, I know that in my own particular case that I'll never have huge muscles, since I'm a lifetime natural, but in a naturals case this sort of training will cause one to have granite-like muscles once low bodyfat is achieved 8)
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Master Blaster on February 05, 2011, 01:38:56 PM
pretty funny how they rehab knee injuries on this very knee wrecker!!!!

dont be fucking stupid, best way to get the blood pumping, and to me aswell as countless other who actualy have leg development, are pretty much a vital tool

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what a fucking idiot
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Master Blaster on February 05, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
guys... big muscle=strong muscle. and that means you can not have a big muscle unless it is first a strong muscle. you want size? you gotta get strong first.  focus on lifting super heavy weights with good form, and dont train so much that your sore for days and dont gain strength. . just a few very heavy sets shy of failure. and hit it again in a couple days. once you are lifting 400-500 lbs on every major exercise, then focus on adding in reps, but only go as fast as your body will let you, dont try to force growth by destroying the muscle, going to failure, drop sets, etc. all this does is cause excess muscle damage and destroy your ability to make significant growth after your workout.

You wanto to get bigger? Just add more test.

Someone who tries to lift heavy weight but maintain low bodyfat while being drug free will allways look small, with a few exceptions.

And the exceptions generally prove the rule.  ;)
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: tbombz on February 05, 2011, 02:07:35 PM
You wanto to get bigger? Just add more test.

Someone who tries to lift heavy weight but maintain low bodyfat while being drug free will allways look small, with a few exceptions.

And the exceptions generally prove the rule.  ;)
someone who tries to lift naturally and remain lean will always look small, no exceptions. even when theyre fat.

your right about adding more steroids, but that only works to a point, and even then you still need to focus on getting stronger in order to get bigger. very few guys can get bigtger on juice without getting sronger. and even those guyw ould be better off focusing on getting stronger, theyd progress faster.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: kofo on February 05, 2011, 02:13:11 PM
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what a fucking idiot

Yes you are (and you have heard it all your life)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions)

Leg Extension Risks:

    1. Increased patellofemoral joint reaction force, knee movement, and joint stress in the most commonly used range of motion.

    2. Reduced hamstrings activity.

    3. Reduced VMO activity and late onset of firing.

    4. Non-existent hip adductor and abductor contribution.

    5. Increased rectus femoris firing.

    6. Constant ACL tension.

    7. Higher patellar ligament, quadriceps tendon, and patellofemoral and tibiofemoral forces with the most commonly utilized loading parameters.

    8. Increased lateral patellar deviation.

    9. Insufficient involvement of surrounding joints to ensure optimal functioning.

    10. Poor training economy (no carryover to closed-chain performance from open-chain exercises).

Leg Extension Benefits:

    1. Will give you a good pump, but not even close to the benefits you'll get from squatting and single-leg movements.

    2. Uh, wait, there's really only one benefit — and it's pretty weak.




Case closed

Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: FREAKgeek on February 05, 2011, 02:34:59 PM
I used to talk bad about the leg ext too, but used in moderation, I think it makes good contribution to your leg development. It's no substitute for squats, but it has its place. If all you do is squat, you won't be strong in this movement as you could be, and can probably put 50 or so lbs on it in a few weeks time. Why would that be a bad thing? Then so is a barbell curl or reverse curl as they focus on single joint movements too.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Master Blaster on February 05, 2011, 02:35:44 PM
Yes you are (and you have heard it all your life)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions)

Leg Extension Risks:

    1. Increased patellofemoral joint reaction force, knee movement, and joint stress in the most commonly used range of motion.

    2. Reduced hamstrings activity.

    3. Reduced VMO activity and late onset of firing.

    4. Non-existent hip adductor and abductor contribution.

    5. Increased rectus femoris firing.

    6. Constant ACL tension.

    7. Higher patellar ligament, quadriceps tendon, and patellofemoral and tibiofemoral forces with the most commonly utilized loading parameters.

    8. Increased lateral patellar deviation.

    9. Insufficient involvement of surrounding joints to ensure optimal functioning.

    10. Poor training economy (no carryover to closed-chain performance from open-chain exercises).

Leg Extension Benefits:

    1. Will give you a good pump, but not even close to the benefits you'll get from squatting and single-leg movements.

    2. Uh, wait, there's really only one benefit — and it's pretty weak.




Case closed



Oh wow...you quoted a free online article...thats fucking scientific

Here's some bro science for you. Dude by the name of "Tom Platz"

(http://img.youtube.com/vi/kJJZ5XhS17E/0.jpg)

You know what those articles are good for? Copy and pasting into message boards in a brilliant attempt to sound like a total fucking tool bag.

Oh yeah, and I totally fucked your mom and all that stuff.
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: local hero on February 05, 2011, 06:00:36 PM
Yes you are (and you have heard it all your life)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/the_truth_about_leg_extensions)

Leg Extension Risks:

    1. Increased patellofemoral joint reaction force, knee movement, and joint stress in the most commonly used range of motion.

    2. Reduced hamstrings activity.

    3. Reduced VMO activity and late onset of firing.

    4. Non-existent hip adductor and abductor contribution.

    5. Increased rectus femoris firing.

    6. Constant ACL tension.

    7. Higher patellar ligament, quadriceps tendon, and patellofemoral and tibiofemoral forces with the most commonly utilized loading parameters.

    8. Increased lateral patellar deviation.

    9. Insufficient involvement of surrounding joints to ensure optimal functioning.

    10. Poor training economy (no carryover to closed-chain performance from open-chain exercises).

Leg Extension Benefits:

    1. Will give you a good pump, but not even close to the benefits you'll get from squatting and single-leg movements.

    2. Uh, wait, there's really only one benefit — and it's pretty weak.




Case closed




show me anyone whos fucked there knees through leg extensions............. thatl be zero....

show me anyone whos fucked there knees heavy deep squating.... thatl be most whove trained 10 plus years, including me

get fucked skinny c.unt
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: Alex23 on February 05, 2011, 10:17:57 PM

show me anyone whos fucked there knees through leg extensions............. thatl be zero....

show me anyone whos fucked there knees heavy deep squating.... thatl be most whove trained 10 plus years, including me

get fucked skinny c.unt

localheroed for truth.

Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: D_1000 on February 05, 2011, 11:16:51 PM
Wrong.  THey help carve definition between the different quad muscles.

 ;D
Title: Re: best pain is Leg Extension pain
Post by: D_1000 on February 05, 2011, 11:18:13 PM
localheroed for truth.



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