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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: flinstones1 on February 04, 2011, 05:56:28 PM
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http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/vegetarians-age-faster-2/
According to this, fruit and veggies cause aging. Lol at all the women out there ...your husband smothered in steak and potatoes every night is healthier than you wth your tofu salad with side of brocolli and spinach :D
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probably because they are deficient in other nutrients.
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probably because they are deficient in other nutrients.
but the article makes sense no? he is an md I believe. I force myself to eat veggies but imagine how frustrated we would be if in actuality it is detrimental to health.
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It looks like the focus of the study pertains to vegetarians.
I don't think they're recommending you not eat vegetables, but rather, don't rely on vegetables as your only source of nutrition.
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Vegetables and fruits not good anymore? lol
Heart - attack - monger
Fuck this cat.
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http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/vegetarians-age-faster-2/
According to this, fruit and veggies cause aging. Lol at all the women out there ...your husband smothered in steak and potatoes every night is healthier than you wth your tofu salad with side of brocolli and spinach :D
You need to interpret this properly. Vegetarians usually consume large amounts of refined sugars in the form of candy and other junk food. Vegetarian is not a synonymous of "healthy", but rather someone who just doesen't eat meat. Most vegetarians eat large amounts of refined carbohydrates. Conversely, people who eat the Paleolithic diet eat meat, but they usually avoid refined sugars altogether. They get their carbs from whole grains, vegetables and low sugar fruits like blue berries.
What is confusing about this article is that glycation depends more on protein intake rather than carbohydrate intake. People who age the fastest are those who eat lots of protein and refined carbohydrates. Apes in the wild, who eat lots of fruits but very little meat show very little glycation-related ageing problems like hardening of the arteries and wrinkles. What this tells me is that those vegetarians are ageing because of all the refined carbs they eat and not because they don't eat meat, and that it would be much worse if they did eat meat. The people who eat a Paleolithic diet, conversely, show less glycation because there is very little carbs in their diet to glycate all the protein they eat. They would show even less glycation-related problems if they didn't eat meat at all...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I also do not agree with this. Because in this earth fruits and vegetables contain most number of nutrients. All the green vegetable, fruits like orange, salad most healthiest diet on earth.And these are said by experts. So, My friend this article is not correct.
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http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/sugar-and-sweeteners/vegetarians-age-faster-2/
According to this, fruit and veggies cause aging. Lol at all the women out there ...your husband smothered in steak and potatoes every night is healthier than you wth your tofu salad with side of brocolli and spinach :D
Very interesting!
It doesn't say that fruits and veggies cause aging. It says that eating meat may help suppress aging. Fruits and veggies are still good, and meat is great!
The paper also mentions diabetes in vegetarians. That may explain why India, where most of the population is vegetarian, is also the diabetes capital of the world. So much for a vegan diet being healthy!
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You need to interpret this properly. Vegetarians usually consume large amounts of refined sugars in the form of candy and other junk food. Vegetarian is not a synonymous of "healthy", but rather someone who just doesen't eat meat. Most vegetarians eat large amounts of refined carbohydrates. Conversely, people who eat the Paleolithic diet eat meat, but they usually avoid refined sugars altogether. They get their carbs from whole grains, vegetables and low sugar fruits like blue berries.
What is confusing about this article is that glycation depends more on protein intake rather than carbohydrate intake. People who age the fastest are those who eat lots of protein and refined carbohydrates. Apes in the wild, who eat lots of fruits but very little meat show very little glycation-related ageing problems like hardening of the arteries and wrinkles. What this tells me is that those vegetarians are ageing because of all the refined carbs they eat and not because they don't eat meat, and that it would be much worse if they did eat meat. The people who eat a Paleolithic diet, conversely, show less glycation because there is very little carbs in their diet to glycate all the protein they eat. They would show even less glycation-related problems if they didn't eat meat at all...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
The medical paper states clearly that it is "Carnosine (beta-alanyl-L-histidine)" "found exclusively in animal tissues" that appears to suppress aging.
Would carnosine or a carnivorous diet help suppress aging and associated pathologies?
Abstract
Carnosine (beta-alanyl-L-histidine) is found exclusively in animal tissues. Carnosine has the potential to suppress many of the biochemical changes (e.g., protein oxidation, glycation, AGE formation, and cross-linking) that accompany aging and associated pathologies. Glycation, generation of advanced glycosylation end-products (AGEs), and formation of protein carbonyl groups play important roles in aging, diabetes, its secondary complications, and neurodegenerative conditions. Due to carnosine's antiglycating activity, reactivity toward deleterious carbonyls, zinc- and copper-chelating activity and low toxicity, carnosine and related structures could be effective against age-related protein carbonyl stress. It is suggested that carnivorous diets could be beneficial because of their carnosine content, as the dipeptide has been shown to suppress some diabetic complications in mice. It is also suggested that carnosine's therapeutic potential should be explored with respect to neurodegeneration. Olfactory tissue is normally enriched in carnosine, but olfactory dysfunction is frequently associated with neurodegeneration. Olfactory administration of carnosine could provide a direct route to compromised tissue, avoiding serum carnosinases.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16804013?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
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The medical paper states clearly that it is "Carnosine (beta-alanyl-L-histidine)" "found exclusively in animal tissues" that appears to suppress aging.
Would carnosine or a carnivorous diet help suppress aging and associated pathologies?
Abstract
Carnosine (beta-alanyl-L-histidine) is found exclusively in animal tissues. Carnosine has the potential to suppress many of the biochemical changes (e.g., protein oxidation, glycation, AGE formation, and cross-linking) that accompany aging and associated pathologies. Glycation, generation of advanced glycosylation end-products (AGEs), and formation of protein carbonyl groups play important roles in aging, diabetes, its secondary complications, and neurodegenerative conditions. Due to carnosine's antiglycating activity, reactivity toward deleterious carbonyls, zinc- and copper-chelating activity and low toxicity, carnosine and related structures could be effective against age-related protein carbonyl stress. It is suggested that carnivorous diets could be beneficial because of their carnosine content, as the dipeptide has been shown to suppress some diabetic complications in mice. It is also suggested that carnosine's therapeutic potential should be explored with respect to neurodegeneration. Olfactory tissue is normally enriched in carnosine, but olfactory dysfunction is frequently associated with neurodegeneration. Olfactory administration of carnosine could provide a direct route to compromised tissue, avoiding serum carnosinases.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16804013?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
This seems like pseudo-science to me. It doesen't hold up to logical scrutiny. Meat eaters have a much higher incidence of age-related diseases like artherosclerosis and ostheoporosis and metabolic acidosis than vegetarians, so the claim made by this article is proven wrong by evidence.
SUCKMYMUSCLE