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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: NarcissisticDeity on February 06, 2011, 05:44:02 AM
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Some ' new ' pics
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That smile says it all :D
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You got any pics of Zane smashing his trophy ND? ;D
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A rare shot of Arnold's rear lat-spread
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Arnold's ab-thigh :-X
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You got any pics of Zane smashing his trophy ND? ;D
Oh boy I wish ;D
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You can see the bitterness building up inside of him
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365399.0;attach=401383;image)
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You can see the bitterness building up inside of him
nah I think at this point he thought he was actually winning lmao
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Haha - I can't believe Arnold won that contest. ;D
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Back in the day, circa the early 70s, Zane beat Arnold, and Arnold said this about Zane, "I got beat by a man with no body" or something to that effect. To which Zane replied, "Arnold has nothing below the chest" ;D
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ND has new bulbs for the scanners, good old pics no doubt. 8)
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i dont see anyone out right beating arnie in any of the above pics posted......
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Good shots, ND! ;)
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Arnold checking the sig on the check to make sure it doesn't say Mike Mentzer
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I think that's about it
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These 2 pics of Zane you posted are from 79, not 80.
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These 2 pics of Zane you posted are from 79, not 80.
I Wasn't sure but good catch
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i dont see Arnie beating anyone in any of the above pics posted......
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Good pics ND
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Hey che, who is more Zane-like in your opinion, me or you? I'm talking bout when we were both at our peaks of course ;)
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Hey che, who is more Zane-like in your opinion, me or you? I'm talking bout when we were both at our peaks of course ;)
You ma man .
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i dont see anyone out right beating arnie in any of the above pics posted......
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sick rear double bicep
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hater bigtime
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ROFL! Put yo arms on ma torso then we gots something ;D Legs? Well, that's better left unsaid, in my case at least lol
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365399.0;attach=401491;image)
That was the best part of the contest ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365399.0;attach=401491;image)
That was the best part of the contest ;D
Can someone spot a getbigger in that picture?
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great pics ND! Thx
arnold looks good considering he only decided to compete the day before and just caught 1 quick workout before the show ... ::)
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Dickerson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnold .
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great pics ND! Thx
arnold looks good considering he only decided to compete the day before and just caught 1 quick workout before the show ... ::)
No problem ;D
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ZANE>everyone else
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(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/rogerwalker_im.jpg)
Was this guy even that good? I see him in a lot of comparison pics... never thought much of him.
So, out of the 1980 lineup, how many of these guys are still alive and kickin'?
Arnold Schwarzakoff, Chris Dickerson, Frank Zane, Boyer Coe, Mike Mentzer, Roger Walker, Roy Callendar, Dennis Tinerino, Tom Platz, Danny Padilla, Ed Corney, Tony Emmot, Roy Duval, Casey Viator (?) Samir Banout and Ken Waller?
Is this lineup even close?
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(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/rogerwalker_im.jpg)
Was this guy even that good? I see him in a lot of comparison pics... never thought much of him.
So, out of the 1980 lineup, how many of these guys are still alive and kickin'?
Arnold Schwarzakoff, Chris Dickerson, Frank Zane, Boyer Coe, Mike Mentzer, Roger Walker, Roy Callendar, Dennis Tinerino, Tom Platz, Danny Padilla, Ed Corney, Tony Emmot, Roy Duval, Casey Viator (?) Samir Banout and Ken Waller?
Is this lineup even close?
His back was awesome
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Arnie has chicken legs no more 26 inches, all arms and chest....
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Mentzer looks like the winner, shit 3-4 other guys look like they are beating Arnold.
Arnolds ab and thigh is horrendous. all arms and chest. Makkaway is killing arnold.
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correcting myself, Dickerson looks to be killing Arnold.
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One thing for sure though, Arnolds calves made up for the lag in his quads and hams... your'e eyes just kind of zone in on them. They couldn't be over-looked...
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It amazes me how these guys can display a ripped back with a christmas tree but no ripped glutes. Samir in '83 had a back that was as ripped as the current crop of pros, but he too had no ripped glutes. I guess that's the last place the body will burn fat.
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Mentzer looks like the winner, shit 3-4 other guys look like they are beating Arnold.
Arnolds ab and thigh is horrendous. all arms and chest. Makkaway is killing arnold.
This.
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It amazes me how these guys can display a ripped back with a christmas tree but no ripped glutes. Samir in '83 had a back that was as ripped as the current crop of pros, but he too had no ripped glutes. I guess that's the last place the body will burn fat.
They didn't have the right kind of "dope" back then...
ripped glutes don't come from a certain type of diet.
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It is hard to decide whether Arnold won that contest based on his physique or due to the sheer strength of his charisma. He is a salesman at heart, and he was always outstanding when it comes to selling himself. Arnold was not at his best, but even not as his best he was still better than everybody else. Only at the 1998 Olympia Haney finally surpassed the Arnold of 1974 in muscularity. I think Arnold was good enough to win, but if he were unknown the judges would look at his huge pecs and biceps, and realize this is pretty much the only areas where Arnold was far above everyone else. There were guys with better backs, better abs, better quads, etc. Maybe having the biggest pecs and biceps wouldn't be enough for Arnold to win if he were unknown. So it is hard to tell if he really deserved to win.
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Arnold's twisting shots helped him a lot... Those arms!
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I wish somewhere... ANYWHERE... I could find/see footage of this exact moment. Odd that the 1980 Mr. Olympia DVD or The Comeback doesn't show it.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1146.jpg)
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Down from previous but still bigger and wider than the rest. The others all had their faults
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I just don't understand all the comparisons with Roger Walker.
I can see more BB's up there that look more deserving. I must be missing something.
Roger kind of reminds me of Teufel.
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Arnolds four pack kills his lines. Zane looks the clear winner to me.
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I just don't understand all the comparisons with Roger Walker.
I can see more BB's up there that look more deserving. I must be missing something.
Roger kind of reminds me of Teufel.
Walker was the home town boy . contest was in Sydney Aus. and Walker lived there. Vince Basille was front row taking photos.
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Of few of them look like they belong in the figure class by todays standards.
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Walker was the home town boy . contest was in Sydney Aus. and Walker lived there. Vince Basille was front row taking photos.
Now that is funny... and probably 100% true.
BTW, how are you lookin' these days? Still all shredded and swole?
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Mentzer should win. But we can't have that.
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Those pictures are kinda biased.
Standing relaxed Arnold got beat, but when he posed he was unbeatable. Same thing with Dorian Yates.
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dickerson crushing the shit outa ahnold in those pics
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Nice pics. I've seen every picture from that show- but there were many here I've never seen. Wait! That makes no sense.
Thanks OP.
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They didn't have the right kind of "dope" back then...
ripped glutes don't come from a certain type of diet.
yeah that's fucked up, I have striation on my glutes right now and my back is still soft as shit
seems like today it's the other way around
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Fuck Arnold and the horse he rode in on in 1980...scam bag.
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Wow...arnold wins shows he doesn't even win!
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Wow...arnold wins shows he doesn't even win!
Oh c'mon Arnie standing next to Mentzer made Mike look like a baby. Arnie was big, ripped and striated.
Mentzer had no chest, weak arms and delts in comparison.
Arnie had unbeatable calves just needed a bit more hamstrings and front quads.
And quads weren't exactly "in" 30+ years ago!
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ZANE>everyone else
too bad he injured his testicle, he wouldve made damage
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Coe & Dickerson look better than Arnold
Zane, due to the injury, disrupted training, over-dieted, and lost valuable muscle, otherwise best conditioning in show
The pics of Padilla are awesome, if the guy was 3 inches taller...
Mentzer, doesnt feature, he was a contender only in his mind
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I'm curious Figo, do you think that Zane looked better circa '78 @ 187 or circa '82 @ 205? I say '78
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Coe & Dickerson look better than Arnold
Zane, due to the injury, disrupted training, over-dieted, and lost valuable muscle, otherwise best conditioning in show
The pics of Padilla are awesome, if the guy was 3 inches taller...
Mentzer, doesnt feature, he was a contender only in his mind
Padilla looked awesome, bar height he brought the best package. Zane looked a bit flat but still had his lines and the best conditioning, I also agree about Coe and Dickerson.
Mentzer looked bad, also Arnold needed to come in heavier, the lighter he was the more his structural problems became apparent.
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I'm curious Figo, do you think that Zane looked better circa '78 @ 187 or circa '82 @ 205? I say '78
zane was a blend of flowing lines, perfect proportion and great conditioning, so a few pounds down or up made a a much more drastic difference than on someone like platz or franco
I think he looked his best at 190lb or under, I dont know what he weighed in 80, but it must've been closer to 180, looked flat like Jaime said, actually really small :-[
Dickerson was also either spot on, or not a contender (dickerson dominated almost all the early 80's shows he entered, except for francos gift in 81, and when bannout finally found diuretics in 83), but next to a bigger man, disappeared..
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never saw the fuss in Dickerson, conditioned yes, great calves and back yes.
Terrible fdb basically missing a pair of bi's, droopy lopsided right pec, wasn't it torn? and basically a funny shape overall
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never saw the fuss in Dickerson, conditioned yes, great calves and back yes.
Terrible fdb basically missing a pair of bi's, droopy lopsided right pec, wasn't it torn? and basically a funny shape overall
for the era, the most complete package, granted, a comparatively "weak" field
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Arnold killed everyone
Dickerson was good, but not enough for Arnold
Zane wasn't at his best
I never saw that pic of Danny Padilla in this contest, he was incredible...definitivel y overlooked.
Mentzer not even close to anything, 5th place and people still argue he should've won. ;D
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funny so many of those pics are blurred out of arnold...truth is arnold dwarfed these guys!!!! his back was all so much better than all of them in person......in the clear pics u can see this is true...he won this contest by a very wide margin..so he won arms,back,calves,chest .he was in better condition,separation and symetry which is what they judged on back then!!!! with so much more ripped muscle than everyone else.....the reason everyone was so mad he won is he always bragged since he retired that he could get in shape in 6 weeks and beat everyone anytime....then when he actually did it they were all pissed and cried foul,scam this and that,, but people who were there said arnold won hands down not close...
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funny so many of those pics are blurred out of arnold...truth is arnold dwarfed these guys!!!! his back was all so much better than all of them in person......in the clear pics u can see this is true...he won this contest by a very wide margin..so he won arms,back,calves,chest .he was in better condition,separation and symetry which is what they judged on back then!!!! with so much more ripped muscle than everyone else.....the reason everyone was so mad he won is he always bragged since he retired that he could get in shape in 6 weeks and beat everyone anytime....then when he actually did it they were all pissed and cried foul,scam this and that,, but people who were there said arnold won hands down not close...
Have you seen the Padilla and Zane pictures? He loses to both quite easily.
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the reason everyone was so mad he won is he always bragged since he retired that he could get in shape in 6 weeks and beat everyone anytime....then when he actually did it they were all pissed and cried foul,scam this and that,, but people who were there said arnold won hands down not close...
apparently he decided like half an hour before the show to enter and did some benches and curls, and boom!
typical arnold bs and self propaganda he excelled at
conan filming was delayed, he contemplated competing at least 6 months ahead of time, and he started training about 3 months before the show, its in the bio 'Fantastic', Im not making this up.
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Mentzer, doesnt feature, he was a contender only in his mind
Yeah but the guy was the loudest about it. Difference between Arnold and Mike was that Arnold could deliver.
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Yeah but the guy was the loudest about it. Difference between Arnold and Mike was that Arnold could deliver.
Mike was already trippin...
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well a couple months after he won muscle n fitness chronicaled his training from 6 weeks out he trained with joesph wilkoz or whatever his name is and he looked like he had just started at 6 weeks out....showed him gettin in shape week by week kinda thing, he killed those guys he dwarfed zane and padilla bigtime..so no zane or padila were not close..he really was much better than everyone.
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The day after.
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"I was the clear winner, but the CBS footage, of this 'FANTASTIC" contest wont air" .....Thanks for coming now, drive home safely"
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zane wasnt close
danny too small
dickerson had probably the best package(no homo) on the day, but next to an inferior bigger man, got lost
platz freaky, but not a contender
bannout off
boyer looked great, but it was never gonna happen
mentzer at best top 6
walker not a contender
dickerson was probably closest competition, realistically, but still couldnt beat "off" arnold + politics
imagine the uproar, arnold wouldve probably sued the ifbb and weider..
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"More likely to see me back on stage next year than Mentzer? yes, Next question "
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Arnold- Next time watch your mouth ..."current Mr.O"
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I've been searching for that pic, seriously Zanes looks like a stringy child next to Arnold with his hugeness and billowing muscle bellies. He literally looks half the width of an off Arnold.
Arnold- Next time watch your mouth ..."current Mr.O"
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Oh c'mon Arnie standing next to Mentzer made Mike look like a baby. Arnie was big, ripped and striated.
Mentzer had no chest, weak arms and delts in comparison.
Arnie had unbeatable calves just needed a bit more hamstrings and front quads.
And quads weren't exactly "in" 30+ years ago!
This^. Mentzer's no chest made it look like he had an Insulin/alcoholic belly
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LMAO !
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all these stills of a video, yet no one posts the video?
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ZANE>everyone else
yep. thats what im seeing also.
Zane looks just right in every way.
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this is just proof that GB members dont have a clue.
should i explain how BB is judged? it seems most of you dont actually know.
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I've been searching for that pic, seriously Zanes looks like a stringy child next to Arnold with his hugeness and billowing muscle bellies. He literally looks half the width of an off Arnold.
exactly, zane while really cut looks to have barely more mass than some naturals...arnold absolutely dwarfs him in every concievable way
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zane was dwarfed yes, but this was a very off zane, smaller than usual, cut but flat, he had a serious injury, entering the show was a toss up till late
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all these stills of a video, yet no one posts the video?
I posted it on ironage,heres part 1,part 2 is on the right hand side.
http://vimeo.com/16752010
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Arnold- Next time watch your mouth ..."current Mr.O"
Two things. Zane looks small there but Arnold's structure sucks, he looks as blocky as Jay, Zane has him on conditioning and flow but yeah Arnold is out massing him easily. He was injured coming in to the show apparently.
Fuck knows what Frank would weigh natural probably about 100lbs.
Oliva and Nubret would have sleepwalked through this lineup.
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Arnold killed everyone
Dickerson was good, but not enough for Arnold
Zane wasn't at his best
I never saw that pic of Danny Padilla in this contest, he was incredible...definitivel y overlooked.
Mentzer not even close to anything, 5th place and people still argue he should've won. ;D
QFT. WOOOOOSHHHHHH
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the softest mr olympia of all time=arnie=the most charismatic bodybuilder of all time
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all these guys were perfect.
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apparently he decided like half an hour before the show to enter and did some benches and curls, and boom!
typical arnold bs and self propaganda he excelled at
conan filming was delayed, he contemplated competing at least 6 months ahead of time, and he started training about 3 months before the show, its in the bio 'Fantastic', Im not making this up.
well a couple months after he won muscle n fitness chronicaled his training from 6 weeks out he trained with joesph wilkoz or whatever his name is and he looked like he had just started at 6 weeks out....showed him gettin in shape week by week kinda thing, he killed those guys he dwarfed zane and padilla bigtime..so no zane or padila were not close..he really was much better than everyone.
In Arnold's Encyclopedia, he mentions "I only started preparing 6wks out-half the time I would normally take to get ready." Don't remember exactly where it was, I want to say it was near where he talks about training with the younger guys that had more energy/strength than him, but he was smarter and showed them stuff they didn't know, an equal trade. Their energy for his knowledge.
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Bro, this is 79 Zane.
THE BEEF
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Great pics ND!!!
I plan to steal them. ;D
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the softest mr olympia of all time=arnie=the most charismatic bodybuilder of all time
have you seen the black and whites from 1980? He is actually way more ripped than most competitors, the blurry color shots don't show it
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have you seen the black and whites from 1980? He is actually way more ripped than most competitors, the blurry color shots don't show it
nah, everyone looks to be in shape in black white...it's called contrast my friend ;)
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King ZANE was at his peak is '78. P.S. My mom is gonna meet da King next week, when he comes to Columbus for da Arnold Classic, Big Louie will be there as well. This will occur within a privite party context. Yeah, yeah, here come da mom jokes. I'm just wondering if Big Louie will charge her to have a photo taken with her ;D
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I've always wondered if part of the reason Zane's side delts were so wide looking was because he had NO front delts. He wasn't much of a believer in bench presses and supposedly he only "sculpted" what he felt was needed.
In other words, he wouldn't do random exercises like so many "bodybuilders" do.
He really stands out in that lineup of 1/4 turns. His delts don't look like anyone else's.
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i dont see anyone out right beating arnie in any of the above pics posted......
Everyone in the top 5 beats his ab/thigh shot.
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Good question dys, I read an on-line article about him recently, and he said that nowadays he doesn't even directly train his delts, coz they grow enough just from doing chest and back work. Also, back in the day he posed to "Time" by Pink Floyd, cool dat 8) "And then one day you find 10 years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"
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I've always wondered if part of the reason Zane's side delts were so wide looking was because he had NO front delts. He wasn't much of a believer in bench presses and supposedly he only "sculpted" what he felt was needed.
In other words, he wouldn't do random exercises like so many "bodybuilders" do.
He really stands out in that lineup of 1/4 turns. His delts don't look like anyone else's.
also perfect tris, that outer head was very developed, great quad outer sweep
Bro, this is 79 Zane.
THE BEEF
big diff between the 2 yrs
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funny so many of those pics are blurred out of arnold...truth is arnold dwarfed these guys!!!! his back was all so much better than all of them in person......in the clear pics u can see this is true...he won this contest by a very wide margin..so he won arms,back,calves,chest .he was in better condition,separation and symetry which is what they judged on back then!!!! with so much more ripped muscle than everyone else.....the reason everyone was so mad he won is he always bragged since he retired that he could get in shape in 6 weeks and beat everyone anytime....then when he actually did it they were all pissed and cried foul,scam this and that,, but people who were there said arnold won hands down not close...
I agree with you, he looked incredible from any angle- but what has got to be the GREATEST mystery of all time has to be what the HELL did he do in terms of a gear schedule in 6 weeks of preparation... I have always wondered about that!
If you have any ideas on what he could have possibly taken to look that incredible that FAST please write!
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Good question dys, I read an on-line article about him recently, and he said that nowadays he doesn't even directly train his delts, coz they grow enough just from doing chest and back work. Also, back in the day he posed to "Time" by Pink Floyd, cool dat 8) "And then one day you find 10 years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"
I think he also said that if he had to do it all over again, he would have done less, and he would have gone lighter. He said his shoulders are both injured and that once the "aging process' sets in, you are screwed. He say's that they never stop hurting- no matter what he does, but at the same time, they stay nice and wide with no direct training (these days)
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also perfect tris, that outer head was very developed, great quad outer sweep
big diff between the 2 yrs
I never thought Zane got enough credit for his quads and calves. IMO he had the perfect balance. I don't like the trend now where the quads are so massive that you can't even walk normally. You waddle like a fat man.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365399.0;attach=401502;image)
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all these guys were perfect.
And they all had a great full head of hair.
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I never thought Zane got enough credit for his quads and calves. IMO he had the perfect balance. I don't like the trend now where the quads are so massive that you can't even walk normally. You waddle like a fat man.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=365399.0;attach=401502;image)
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FYI, Zane was able to squat 405 for 10 and he out squatted arnold back in the day when they used to train together. ZANE>arnold