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incredible.
Why not fine him for the damanges and have him clean the shit up?
or one year if you REALLY wanna push it with parole after 8 months or something. Fucking hell.
Women shouldnt be judges angry ass girls. her house probably got "tagged" once upon a time.
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chances are he will come out a better person after he has been forced to traffic cigarettes and drugs in the pen so he
doesn't end up being sexually abused ::)
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incredible.
Why not fine him for the damanges and have him clean the shit up?
or one year if you REALLY wanna push it with parole after 8 months or something. Fucking hell.
Women shouldnt be judges angry ass girls. her house probably got "tagged" once upon a time.
especially lesbian women.
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chances are he will come out a better person after he has been forced to traffic cigarettes and drugs in the pen so he
doesn't end up being sexually abused ::)
Incredible.
I can understand how frustating it would be to get your workplace that you own or something tagged, but fucking hell.. as long as you dont loose money and you dont have to clean it off yourself, and as long as he leanr a lesson which he probably would MORE THEN ENOUGH with one year. Or a big ass fine.
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lol I have to comment on this again
I would love to see if the guy has a criminal record, if not this is incredbible stupid and overly excessive, the judge looks
like she has just found out she hit menapause ::)
But to be serious, what the fuck is the point of sending him to prison anyways? Let him pay the fine (lol at the 7k damage) and put him on probation, he is 18 years old ffs.
I mean by now we know for a fact that the wide majority of people don't get better in prison, also the way she said to him you will serve every day looks incredible cruel to me.
Hey Im the first to say, America is a great country but you guys have a straaange fucking culture.
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lol I have to comment on this again
I would love to see if the guy has a criminal record, if not this is incredbible stupid and overly excessive, the judge looks
like she has just found out she hit menapause ::)
But to be serious, what the fuck is the point of sending him to prison anyways? Let him pay the fine (lol at the 7k damage) and put him on probation, he is 18 years old ffs.
cue the americanos that doesnt see an issue at All in this. 18 yr olds do stupid shit, everyone does at one point ar another.. crazy. I would beat the shit out of the judge and her entire fucking family when I got out. Then hunt down the fuckler that bragged about the police doing a good job. what the hell.
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chances are he will come out a better person after he has been forced to traffic cigarettes and drugs in the pen so he
doesn't end up being sexually abused ::)
She needs a beating.
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She needs a beating.
hold her down and vcut her fucking tongue out. that would be a nice punishment for that controlling abusive c*nt. Not being able to speak again.
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cue the americanos that doesnt see an issue at All in this. 18 yr olds do stupid shit, everyone does at one point ar another.. crazy. I would beat the shit out of the judge and her entire fucking family when I got out.
OMFG I would have been locked up forever for shit I have done in the past, it is important to know that anybody has made mistakes and unless somebody is hurt really hurt, cut them some slack.
Haha but good thing is he probably will be out in 2 days like Paris Hilton who was a druggy and drove intoxicated... hang on.... no the guy has no money and isn't a celebrity so yeah shit he will serve his 8 years ::)
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OMFG I would have been locked up forever for shit I have done in the past, it is important to know that anybody has made mistakes and unless somebody is hurt really hurt, cut them some slack.
Haha but good thing is he probably will be out in 2 days like Paris Hilton who was a druggy and drove intoxicated... hang on.... no the guy has no money and isn't a celebrity so yeah shit he will serve his 8 years ::)
dont forget. NO probation. NO chance of early release.
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Wow that is crazy. 8 years as a slave for the prison and sexslave for his cellmate, oh well. Shit happens ??? :-X
you could kill someone in sweden, and throw in a few rapes just for good measure and still not serve 8 years lol.
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I think a week in prison, heavily guarded - in extra cells - is probably the best thing to scare teenagers, tell you what I got scared the fuck out when I went into prison for a very small streach, never
had any problems with the police nor have I ever broken the law again.
Let them feel the bordom and the helplessnes being locked up etc, that is I think a good thing.
But 8 years - dam - the guy will be out when he is 26 :o :o
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dont forget. NO probation. NO chance of early release.
I was making a point by being sarcastic - of the stupid and ridicules double standarts, Paris Hilton has commited a far worse crime (at least in my eyes) and has been warned so fucking many times.
But we cannot keep her in prison because daddy hired the best lawyers in the country to scare the shit out of the judge and everybody else as in...
Do you know what we will do if anything happens to her?
If there is one thing I dispise and hate its double standarts.
however good thing is, the video will go viral and maybe just maybe a big shot lawyer sees a chance to make cash or get his name in the news and picks up the case.
For the judge.... she needs to be raped with a broken bottle.
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however good thing is, the video will go viral and maybe just maybe a big shot lawyer sees a chance to make cash or get his name in the news and picks up the case.
For the judge.... she needs to be raped with a broken bottle.
hopefully. especially No chance of early release. so NO motivation to behave while locked up either..
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you could kill someone in sweden, and throw in a few rapes just for good measure and still not serve 8 years lol.
yeah but you see that is not neccesarily a good thing, I think as a judge you have to draw a clear line between a teenage who did stupid shit, and caused some damage and somebody
who went physical.
I mean ffs its only money - okay it must be a pain in the ass for anybody who has the shop to see the taggings since everybody is thinking of course - Gang tags I am staying the fuck away from here.
But seriously - 7k vs 8 years and possibly ruined life, doesn't add up.
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hopefully. especially No chance of early release. so NO motivation to behave while locked up either..
well... the fucked up thing is - in america they can add shit to your sentence, I just saw a docu about the only max security - solidary confinement prison in america, you cannot be send there
for your stretch but only when you are not controllable in prison.
Its incredible I couldn't believe my eyes, these guys (sure most are bad guys) are send there and start the program on level 1 - which means no books no tv nothing just a bare cell - 1h they get out per week or so but not outside but to a closed room for excersise - if you behave you get more good things like a TV and books etc.
The prison is build specifically so you have ZERO contact to other humans, they are making tests now to find out if this is legal since it is prooven that being lonely is in the same area in the brain as were you feel pain.
So here is the interesting part - there is this guy in there - he went to the pen (normal pen) for forgery (checks) got I dunno 3 years, but because he was picked on etc he got in fights and there was thijngs added to his sentence, he is now 7 years in his setence who was orginaly only 2-3 years, he got a total of 2 livetearms for attacking officers and he is mentally disturbed.
he has not seen sunlight or the wind or has been outside nor has he talked to anybody for six fucking years.!!!!!!
Imagine that.
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well... the fucked up thing is - in america they can add shit to your sentence, I just saw a docu about the only max security - solidary confinement prison in america, you cannot be send there
for your stretch but only when you are not controllable in prison.
Its incredible I couldn't believe my eyes, these guys (sure most are bad guys) are send there and start the program on level 1 - which means no books no tv nothing just a bare cell - 1h they get out per week or so but not outside but to a closed room for excersise - if you behave you get more good things like a TV and books etc.
The prison is build specifically so you have ZERO contact to other humans, they are making tests now to find out if this is legal since it is prooven that being lonely is in the same area in the brain as were you feel pain.
So here is the interesting part - there is this guy in there - he went to the pen (normal pen) for forgery (checks) got I dunno 3 years, but because he was picked on etc he got in fights and there was thijngs added to his sentence, he is now 7 years in his setence who was orginaly only 2-3 years, he got a total of 2 livetearms for attacking officers and he is mentally disturbed.
he has not seen sunlight or the wind or has been outside nor has he talked to anybody for six fucking years.!!!!!!
Imagine that.
welcome to the laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand of the freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eee and the hoooooooooooooooome of the braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave
A dude in sweden got sentenced last year for keeping s 14 yr old girl prisoner and selling her off to friends and keeping her locked in a box when he had to go to the store etc, when he couldnt keep a check on her, a little ass wodden box. this went on for 14-16 months or something like that.
he got 4 years and will be out way before that.
And ofc tv, books, internet, blankets and whatever. At times I wish it would be more like usa, but not when it comes to DUMB ass stuff like the grafitti dude.
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Land of the free.
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Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D
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Waiting for captain america "berzerkfury" to talk about eurotrash. :D
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Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D
just wait, there will be soon, ;D
and then it will someone be obvious this sentence isn't wrong at all, because america never makes misstakes, only everyone else ;D
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Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D
You see that is the problem with you fucking yanks, cannot take criticism, as soon as anybody criticize your oh so great country he is either a communist or just euro trash.
Nobody tells you fuckers how to run your own country (your government on the other hand does a fine job in dictating the whole world how to run their lives ::) ) ... we are just suggesting
that your legal system might be fucked beyond repair, that's called criticism.
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I'm pretty sure he got 8 years because his art work sucked.... LOL
And WOW, that judge is an even bigger brutish bitch dyke than Judge Judy.
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Incredible.
I can understand how frustating it would be to get your workplace that you own or something tagged, but fucking hell.. as long as you dont loose money and you dont have to clean it off yourself, and as long as he leanr a lesson which he probably would MORE THEN ENOUGH with one year. Or a big ass fine.
Grafitti like this is the same as theft, your causing massive loss of property 7 grand ain't a small number. and crime generally 95 percent of crimes go unpunished so if you get caught you are taking the blame for other crimes. That's only common fucking sense.
Anyhow I don't believe in prisons labour camps should be the way to go.
P.S. I'm right wing as hell.
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Grafitti like this is the same as theft, your causing massive loss of property 7 grand ain't a small number. and crime generally 95 percent of crimes go unpunished so if you get caught you are taking the blame for other crimes. That's only common fucking sense.
Anyhow I don't believe in prisons labour camps should be the way to go.
P.S. I'm right wing as hell.
Lets do the math here.
7K - 8 years = $875 per year.
Couple of the shops were vacant - come on man be as right wing as you want you have to agree the sentence is incredible stupid, given that she pretty much
destroyed his live.
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Lets do the math here.
7K - 8 years = $875 per year.
Couple of the shops were vacant - come on man be as right wing as you want you have to agree the sentence is incredible stupid, given that she pretty much
destroyed his live.
7k x20 since 95 percent of these crimes go unpunished is 140k, nore than this sack of shit can save in 8 years.
Not that I believe in prisons there a waste of money. You can't make it anything but pleasant as that would be torture, so basically people are sent to prison until they get bored with committing crimes. This has been proven to work of course if someone goes to prisons for years they do eventually get bored with the legal system and get good.
Labour camps/solitary confinement should be the only prison system.
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Labour camps/solitary confinement should be the only prison system.
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dude why should we spend like 100k a year per prisoner, let them pay there own fucking way, why the fuck should we be payind money out of our fucking pockets, just so a sack of shit can be rehabilitated( sit on there ass until they possible get bored of crime.)
They should atleast cover there own ass like everyone else.
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7k x20 since 95 percent of these crimes go unpunished is 140k, nore than this sack of shit can save in 8 years.
Not that I believe in prisons there a waste of money. You can't make it anything but pleasant as that would be torture, so basically people are sent to prison until they get bored with committing crimes. This has been proven to work of course if someone goes to prisons for years they do eventually get bored with the legal system and get good.
Labour camps/solitary confinement should be the only prison system.
I dont understand your calculation, so he is paying for all the other idiots that are not caught? even if he only created damages of 7k?
Lol thats as ridicules as your preventive detention (you can lock somebody up if its proven he was thinking to commit a crime)
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So if on average I can steal 20 times before getting caught, each time a theft of 7k, I can steel 140k several years salary, and my only fear is getting sent to 12 months in prison ??? Still making about 300 bucks a day to sit on my hands and do nothing.
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I dont understand your calculation, so he is paying for all the other idiots that are not caught? even if he only created damages of 7k?
Lol thats as ridicules as your preventive detention (you can lock somebody up if its proven he was thinking to commit a crime)
strongly against preventive detention.
If crime is a business you are liable for the damages your business have caused on the state.
This is the whole fucking problem if crimes pays which in many situations it does, there's absolutely no deterrent.
Basically as long you make more money than you would without the risk of incarceration.
The is the whole problem with the prison state crime does pay.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the taxpayers in the US pay for the prisoners expenses but the private prisons themselves make money on them?
look up industrial prison complex. or some shit like that.
Basically everyone makes money in the system, except for the person being robbed and the tax payer, prisons are a massive waste of fucking money, and serve no purpose and they dehabilitate more than opposite.
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chances are he will come out a better person after he has been forced to traffic cigarettes and drugs in the pen so he
doesn't end up being sexually abused ::)
LMAO !
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Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D
Yup. Swede sitting around searching the internet for more isolated incidents to project onto an entire country. Move along, nothing to see here.
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Disgusting. The punishment does not fit the crime. Make him clean it up, give him 30 days in jail and have him do something in the community. What a waste, this boy will come out hating the system and a hardened criminal all for 7k worth of damage.
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Disgusting. The punishment does not fit the crime. Make him clean it up, give him 30 days in jail and have him do something in the community. What a waste, this boy will come out hating the system and a hardened criminal all for 7k worth of damage.
So if he stole 7k worth of property would it make a difference?
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Ha,fantastic...not one American in this thread...just a bunch of Euro's telling us how to run our country ;D
As opposed to Americans telling everyone else how to run their countries?
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Settle down, homos.
No need to show your panties with your outrage. ::)
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incredible.
Why not fine him for the damanges and have him clean the shit up?
or one year if you REALLY wanna push it with parole after 8 months or something. Fucking hell.
Women shouldnt be judges angry ass girls. her house probably got "tagged" once upon a time.
If this happened in my country he would get a fine, do some community service or maybe just one of the two and thats it. 8 years for tagging, fucking hell thats some serious shit! I mean rapists in my country doesnt even serve that long, lol... Tragic system. Kid was stupid though. You NEVER EVER confess! Coming from a retired graffiti artist that almost got caught one too many times... ;D
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God bless America ::)
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They should have just shot him. cheaper.
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They should have just shot him. cheaper.
Or converted him to Islam first, so they could use stones and save a bullet ;D
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Or converted him to Islam first, so they could use stones and save a bullet ;D
LOL, you are on to something there.....plus stoning would have to be a lot more fun for the executioner..... PPV here we come !!
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my americana thread of the day tomorrow will include Why americans are so obsessed with what area code thery're from ans east coast vs west and this vs that and 0498509 vs 34094583 and 098 vs 0987 and whatever. ;D
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I rarely post on here but that is fckd up.
The fat officer at the end talking about the hard work they had done
TO CATCH A DAMN SPRAY PAINTER!
No damn compassion..8 years - there should be an outrage from the city.
He's a dumbass kid; but not a criminal.
I sometimes think some people in law enforcement/judges like that
are just as sociopathic as the people in prison.
Both of them didn't look like they had a empathatic bone in their body.
8 fckn years for graffiti.
No thought from those two about what this kid will suffer in prison.
Let the punishment fit the crime.
I'm not a violent person at all but if I did 8 years for that
I would be looking for revenge after that verdict.
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I'm not watching that shit, but did he have a prior record? I highly doubt that if it was his 1st offense he got 8 yrs for it.... oh well, he wasn't going to do anything of note in his life anyway....
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Sure,,that 8 years sounds hash but that tagging shit just ruins a town or city...Vegas is a prime example...its everywhere. Maybe the next fuck will think twice. I think the mayor had the right idea...a few years ago he suggested that convicted taggers have their index finger cut..sounds good to me. We could give them a choice...prison or the finger ;D
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cue the americanos that doesnt see an issue at All in this. 18 yr olds do stupid shit, everyone does at one point ar another.. crazy. I would beat the shit out of the judge and her entire fucking family when I got out. Then hunt down the fuckler that bragged about the police doing a good job. what the hell.
One, Its Corpus Christie, TX...Texas doesn't play. Two, he may have gang affiliations, both he and the Judge are Latino, she wants to come across hard. Three, dude can always appeal to a higher court. It ain't the end of the world. Four, you'd do no such thing Swede, chances are you'd be shot by the judge herself. As I said before, it's Texas, they don't play down there. And they have executed more deathrow inmates than any state. Five, we don't know what the max penalty and fine for tagging (graffiti) and for the amount of damages ($7,000) is. It could be for a certain amount over or under is X number of yrs. In the state of Maryland, a simple assault (like a fight) carries a max of 10 yrs or $2,500. I don't know how many get the 10 yrs, but I know it is a very, very, very small number.
With that being said, 8 yrs is a tad harsh, and he probably will appeal it.
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More proof the LAW in the U.S is one big fuckin joke.
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So if he stole 7k worth of property would it make a difference?
Dude you're an idiot troll with no life. GTFO.
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One, Its Corpus Christie, TX...Texas doesn't play. Two, he may have gang affiliations, both he and the Judge are Latino, she wants to come across hard. Three, dude can always appeal to a higher court. It ain't the end of the world. Four, you'd do no such thing Swede, chances are you'd be shot by the judge herself. As I said before, it's Texas, they don't play down there. And they have executed more deathrow inmates than any state. Five, we don't know what the max penalty and fine for tagging (graffiti) and for the amount of damages ($7,000) is. It could be for a certain amount over or under is X number of yrs. In the state of Maryland, a simple assault (like a fight) carries a max of 10 yrs or $2,500. I don't know how many get the 10 yrs, but I know it is a very, very, very small number.
With that being said, 8 yrs is a tad harsh, and he probably will appeal it.
a tad harsh?
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8 years for graffiti, what a joke.
I'd tell the judge next time its armed robbery that way 8 years will be justified.
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they should give Linsey lohan 8years not for stealing alone... but for stealing the chain even thou she has money to pay for it and stole for the thrill of it
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a tad harsh?
Yep harsh, but chances are very likely he appealed to a higher court--if he didn't then he is a idiot. I think he did have a attorney with him (Possibly a Public Defender).
Also, he is 18 yrs old, and may even have a juvi record. You have a situation here, where he knew what he was doing and the punishment for the crime. He possibly was doing for the rush, and many 18 yr oldsters don't think that now, "I'm an adult---for everything" and that they don't have to take responsibility for their crimes. Harsh yes, and that judge is probably known for being harsh...but, if dude appeals to higher court, and his attorney gets the case heard in front of more sympathetic judge and jury...his time will be lowered or he will recieve a fine.
There is a saying in the American Judicial system, "Justice is blind, and she is a bitch."
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Graffiti is serious business
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That is some fucked up shit.
A redneck judge throwing someone in prison for 8 years just for tagging. You can tell just by looking at that judge that she is a bitter and evil bitch.
Probably about 10% of the kids at my highschool tagged. I think almost everyone did it at least once as a teenager.
"The land of the free", the USA, can be a very cold and fucked up place.
That judge deserves to get her ass beat for ruining the life of a harmless man.
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http://abovegroundmagazine.com/news/12/22/8-year-graffiti-sentence-reduced/
2 years and 2 years probation.
BUT wtf?
"This comes as the second high-profile graffiti-related case to come from Texas in under a year. In early August of this year Ralph Mirabel, 19, was sentenced to serve three consecutive 8-year prison terms (24 years) for tagging upwards of 30 properties. "