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http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/02/10/spiderman.ff.go/
(CNN) -- When Marvel Comics Executive Editor Tom Brevoort told CNN in December that "something new" would come out of the recent death of the Fantastic Four's Human Torch, he wasn't kidding.
For starters, they won't even be using the name Fantastic Four. On Wednesday, Marvel announced that the team is now going to be called the Future Foundation, debuting in "FF" No. 1 in March.
Gone are the traditional blue costumes. The team will now be wearing white-and-black costumes (with three hexagons replacing the trademark letter "4," as well).
And then there's the cherry on top: Reed "Mr. Fantastic" Richards, Sue "Invisible Woman" Richards and Ben "The Thing" Grimm will now be joined by the superstar of the Marvel Universe, none other than Spider-Man (also wearing a new white-and-black costume).
Reaction to the news from comic book fans has run the gamut. Here's a sample:
Spider-Man joining "FF" makes perfect sense!
"I think it's a great idea," said Bob Bretall of the ComicBookPage podcast. "The association between Spidey and the FF goes all the way back to 'Amazing Spider-Man' No. 1 in 1962."
One of the most memorable examples of this on-again, off-again partnership with the FF involved a very different kind of costume change. In a 1984 issue of "Amazing Spider-Man," the webhead ended up putting on the iconic original Fantastic Four costume ... and they got around the problem of his mask by having him wear a brown paper bag on his head.
Bretall thinks that Spidey joining the team makes sense on another level: "Given that Johnny (Storm, the Human Torch) has long been Spider-Man's best friend as a superhero, it just feels right for him to step in and round out the roster to four."
Comics blogger Alan Kistler agreed: "Spider-Man is a scientist with a different perspective than Mr. Fantastic, and he specializes in different fields, so it could be very interesting to see how his own expertise rounds out this new Future Foundation. And from another angle, it could be interesting to see how Spidey feels about essentially replacing a person he considered a friend and what kind of pressure this will place on him."
On Twitter, @solidcolt put it this way: " 'Amazing Spider-Man' is possibly better then it's ever been. And now he's joining (writer Jonathan) Hickman's FF so that third movie is totally forgiven."
Too much Spidey?
"That's enough Spidey! You are everywhere already!" wrote @kodok_biroe on Twitter.
He might be the most recognizable character from Marvel Comics, and it's not hard to imagine why Spider-Man is so ubiquitous. He was even a member of the Avengers for a short time recently.
There's a lot of buzz around the new "Spider-Man" film reboot starring Andrew Garfield. And then there's that Broadway musical that made so many headlines before it even officially opened.
Still, some fans might be left to wonder: Why Spider-Man? Why not a new character for the team?
"Injecting Spider-Man into the Fantastic Four will probably boost sales, but it feels like Marvel is kind of pimping out the character and spreading him too thin," Sean Fallon wrote at Nerdapproved.com.
"Normally, the addition of Spider-Man to a 'team' comic might worry me a bit. Spidey is -- along with Wolverine -- one of the most oversaturated characters in the Marvel Universe," G4 TV's comic book guru Blair Butler said. "But this new version of the Fantastic Four comes to us from Hickman -- one of the most innovative voices working in comics today -- so I'm actually really looking forward to it, white suits and all. And if you've read Hickman's other work, the new title and costumes seem to fit his science-based vision of the Fantastic Four perfectly."
Yes, about those new costumes ...
FF's new costumes are true to its roots
ComicBookPage podcaster John Mayo is a fan of the team's new look: "The new costumes look great."
Kistler, who often blogs about superhero fashion, looked at what makes the FF special in his assessment of the costumes: "(The FF) spend their spare time looking for other planets and dimensions to explore rather than patrolling for criminals to stop. So the new FF suits work for me as a compromise between customized NASA flight suits and 'Star Trek' uniforms."
White costumes ... really? (And what about Spidey?)
"I'm not too thrilled about the move away from traditional blue, but I'm sure ill get over it," Bretall said. "The new costumes are sleek, if not colorful."
And even though Kistler liked the FF costumes, he is not as thrilled about Spider-Man's look. "It's off-putting at first. Spider-Man has such a unique costume design, with interesting line work and shape, and now most of that's been removed. Black and white works for the rest of the FF, because it's supposed to symbolize their stark look on reality following the Human Torch's death, but Spidey's faced personal death and tragedy many times and has maintained a colorful sense of humor and the belief that eventually things will get better," he said.
"On the other hand, it would be boring to have him wear his classic costume and just add the hexagons to his shirt, so I can accept this as his FF outfit that he wears when he's representing their interests. If he were wearing this in his own comics as well, I'd have a bigger problem with it."
Is this really a permanent change?
As Kistler noted not too long ago on Newsarama.com, the FF have had a lot of costume changes over the years, though this one may be the most drastic.
There have also been a number of changes with the Fantastic Four over the years, particularly the "Heroes Reborn" storyline in the '90s. Which begs the question, how long will these changes last?
"While I am sure I'll continue to enjoy the title as it becomes 'The Future Foundation' for the next year, I fully expect that a year from now, the big news around the title will be that it is reverting to Fantastic Four just in time for issue No. 600," speculated Mayo. "Moreover, there is a strong possibility that issue will feature the heroic return of the Human Torch."
Permanent or not, it will be interesting to see whether these radical changes will ultimately be accepted. Brevoort promises a "unique, powerful new series that's going to surprise a lot of fans with its combination of mind-blowing ideas and visuals."
If it lives up to that promise, you'll be sure to hear explanations of "Excelsior!" from readers.
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Future Foundation!? Sounds like a shitty wrestling team. Bad move. :-X
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FF suck. i haven't watched one of their movies. spiderman will be a breath of fresh air.
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Future Foundation!? Sounds like a shitty wrestling team. Bad move. :-X
I agree. I like Spiderman as standalone character. He doesn't need to be on a team. I've never been a big fan of fantastic 4 one of the weakest groups out there. Thing is hulks bitch. Reed and sue have weak powers in Marvel Universe.
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Future Foundation!? Sounds like a shitty wrestling team. Bad move. :-X
yep...marvel should have taken time on renaming the group.
3 of the best
Acolytes
Alpha Flight
Mutant Liberation Front
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Interesting...
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Interesting...
if you're 5 years old it is
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comics are all fucked up now huh
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what happened to human torch?
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what happened to human torch?
dead...killed off.
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I used to like Superhero comics but some people take them way to fucking seriously. It's not real life.
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The Defenders (Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, and The Incredible Hulk) pwn da fuck out of FF. By da way... Spider-man=dj181 same stats 5'11" 165 sub-7. There's me 8)
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Speaking of which, if anyone wants a great laugh check out http://superdickery.com/ for the old Superhero covers it's fucking awesome
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dead...killed off.
how did he die? did they submerge him in water or was it fire extinguisher?
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white spidey looks awesome.
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Spidey has been broskis with the FF since forever.
How long till they bring back Torch? ::)
I give them 12 months tops. ::)
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how did human torch die?
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how did human torch die?
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how did human torch die?
x2. Anyone have a digital copy of that issue/storyline or a link to it? ???
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The Fantastic 3? The (temporary) death of The Human Torch
Marvel Comics has killed off Johnny Storm, a.k.a. The Human Torch, in the current issue of "The Fantastic Four" comic book. But will his candle remain snuffed out for long?
Johnny Storm (The Human Torch) went down in a blaze of heroic glory after sacrificing himself for fellow superhero The Thing.
The Fantastic Four is now a trio. Marvel Comics this week killed off Johnny Storm, also known as The Human Torch, in a blaze of publicity. How did the beloved comic-book character meet his maker — and will he remain dead for long?
What happened to The Human Torch? Johnny Storm sacrifices himself so that his fellow superhero, The Thing, can escape the Negative Zone, a parallel universe discovered by his Fantastic Four cohort Rex Reed. In issue #587, currently on newsstands, Storm is shown being overcome by monstrous bug people from the alternate world.
Will he stay dead? Almost certainly not, says Bob Gough at ComicBookMovie.com. "No matter how nasty a comic book character's death may seem... no one stays dead for long." Each of the Fantastic Four has, in fact, "died" before, only to be resurrected by "timeline tricks" and "other deus ex machinas." Add to them Captain America, Batman, and Superman, says Scott Thill at Wired, who all died before making "inevitable" comebacks. Marvel is "currently looking to smoke Spider-Man as well."
So why is everyone making such a big deal out of this? Simply because "there's nothing like a dead superhero to dredge up press and sales," says Thill. To prove it, Fantastic Four #587 sold out "before officially hitting the stands," says Joey Esposito at IGN. "Looks like the hype machine paid off." Yes, but next time it decides to kill off a character, Marvel should let fans find out from the comic book itself, says David Uzumeri at Comics Alliance, rather than "blasting it from the mainstream media" before the issue is even published. Do they even know the meaning of the words "spoiler alert"?
Sources: ComicBookMovie.com, Wired, Comics Alliance
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Spider-torch: power of a flying fire spider. :o
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Twig arms.
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Taking his talents to the Baxter building
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What happened to The Human Torch?
Johnny Storm sacrifices himself so that his fellow superhero, The Thing, can escape the Negative Zone, a parallel universe discovered by his Fantastic Four cohort Rex Reed. In issue #587, currently on newsstands, Storm is shown being overcome by monstrous bug people from the alternate world.
haha what a gay way to off him, thats the best thing they could think of?
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Twig arms.
Morgan Freeman and I forgot the others...I always like the Electric Company Spiderman...
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Looks cool, why not give it a shot?
Spiderman was fucked up after the whole clone/not clone/clone/maybe clone-bullshit anyways, why not have him dress up like a stormtrooper and be on a team? He was a member of the Avengers dressed up by Iron-man before.
It's hard economical times, even superheroes have to take every job they get, i bet Reed Richards pays well.
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lol How is his hat staying on underwater?
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What happened to The Human Torch? Johnny Storm sacrifices himself so that his fellow superhero, The Thing, can escape the Negative Zone, a parallel universe discovered by his Fantastic Four cohort Rex Reed. In issue #587, currently on newsstands, Storm is shown being overcome by monstrous bug people from the alternate world.
Must be getting desperate if they are resorting to bad bad plots from the 60's.
Has anyone ever read some of those Superman titles from the 60's? Those guys were on so much acid they just made shit up panel to panel that made no fucking sense whatsoever.
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This one is only gay if you want it to be
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Last time I read a comic, Joker beat "Robin" with a crowbar......and then he died.....it was great.
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Figured this den of manchildren would be into comic books well into middle age. ::)
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Figured this den of manchildren would be into comic books well into middle age. ::)
Are there things, bodyofstool?
Men in capes > Men in thongs
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Figured this den of manchildren would be into comic books well into middle age. ::)
your mom is middle age and into manchildren