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Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 10, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
I know you have mentioned that a lot of the pro's are huge liars!! You get guys like Dex and more recently Ben White say in a mag that half of his meals are protein shakes!! Why the hell do they say that shit if everyone knows the're full of shit and embaressing themselves??

Sec question regarding gh.. Does it help with any joiny repair (knees, shoulders, etc) or is it more of a masking agent??

Thanks

you lie because you pay to sell ilusion,,but the gh15 hatret is to liars who lie to other bodybuilders,,meaining bodybuild lie to other bodybuild thinking he make a fool out of him and thinking the bodybuilder dont know he is lied to,,thats what gh15 dont like,,there is place to lie intrder to make money,,but on this kind of boarding,,when all are bodybuilders and many competetive,,and they all do same thing,,there is no reason to lie,,


gh is also reparing everythign,,but it mainly is for lean grow,,what gh does to you is let you get down to low single digit bodyfat wether you like it or not ,,no matter what you eat as long as it is total ratios neededfor your body ,,with out losing even one lb of muscle,,gh will drop the fat with OUT droping even a lb of muscle off your body ,,infact it will grow you lean via 2 mechanizm ,,1 is new fiber aka lean muscle mass if used with steroid which by itself will reduce body fat % and then burning fat with out conection to muscle,,this make gh superior to any other hormone or fat burner to ever introduce to a bodybuilder,,this is the ONLY REAON for mutation ,,legit gh ,,now it is important that gh be legit becaue oNLY legit gh will do it ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: mossel on February 10, 2011, 11:17:46 PM
you called yourself a lier in a recent post... what's your point?

Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 10, 2011, 11:19:17 PM
you called yourself a lier in a recent post... what's your point?



not under gh15,,and even with out gh15 i limited my lies as much as posible,,but on gh15 never lie,,always truth,,it important to me to live legacy of truth inregarding bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: GWAR on February 10, 2011, 11:27:49 PM
gh15 you say never buy off internet but you have endorsed a certain  internet site in the past , whats up with that ?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: mossel on February 10, 2011, 11:29:02 PM
affirmative!

Question: Is this available in the cult? http://www.pnas.org/content/105/11/4318 (http://www.pnas.org/content/105/11/4318)
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 10, 2011, 11:33:20 PM
gh15 you say never buy off internet but you have endorsed a certain  internet site in the past , whats up with that ?

what site gh15 approved? only approve site if it belong to solid long term supplier,,even then not all are approved

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: derek_the_natural on February 10, 2011, 11:37:35 PM
what site gh15 approved? only approve site if it belong to solid long term supplier,,even then not all are approved

gh15 approved

try spacing out your posts bro...it will ensure your internet-character will have longevity....and start addressing the claims that you are alex/nasser....it will help create a further and enduring mystique.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: GWAR on February 10, 2011, 11:42:25 PM
what site gh15 approved? only approve site if it belong to solid long term supplier,,even then not all are approved

gh15 approved
euro king
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 10, 2011, 11:44:49 PM
euro king is approved suplier,,with many years around,,so its ok to get from site,,still much better from suplier himself ,,but he may chose not to talk with you ,,depends how he wake up that day ,,what side of the pillow

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: efanhowz on February 10, 2011, 11:58:29 PM
Rocky river is the only guy I found with kigtropina. Is RR gh15 list approved?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: g101 on February 11, 2011, 12:25:38 AM
Rocky river is the only guy I found with kigtropina. Is RR gh15 list approved?

bump for this
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: dyslexic on February 11, 2011, 05:49:42 AM
Higher Activity, Faster Reaction, No need to dissolve, Convenient, More potent than the powdered version, Easier to ship.

 

"The Amino acid sequence in Kigtropin AQ is identical to that of naturally occurring growth hormone produced in the human body. As a liquid growth hormone (hGH or GH) formulation, Kigtropin AQ is ready for immediate injection; nomixing is necessary. Kigtropin AQ makes hGH therapy easier by offering these advantages:

Less time is needed to prepare and administer the medication. Kigtropin AQ eliminates about half the steps required to prepare the lyophilized (powdered) version and fewer supplies are needed.

Less time is required to learn how to give injections compared to powdered Kigtropin."



I always thought the powder mix was the only way to go...

Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: spinnis on February 11, 2011, 05:51:36 AM
try spacing out your posts bro...it will ensure your internet-character will have longevity....and start addressing the claims that you are alex/nasser....it will help create a further and enduring mystique.

TJING

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/BLACKLACBLACK/gahhhhhh.gif)
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Stavios on February 11, 2011, 06:15:59 AM
Yeah rocky is a good dude apparently

haven't tried since not in the US
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Krankenstein on February 11, 2011, 06:28:44 AM
euro king is approved suplier,,with many years around,,so its ok to get from site,,still much better from suplier himself ,,but he may chose not to talk with you ,,depends how he wake up that day ,,what side of the pillow

gh15 approved

So the guy on Euroking knows you is what you are saying....yes?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: jaejonna on February 11, 2011, 06:30:33 AM
hahahaha gh doesnt help joint injuries....
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 11, 2011, 06:36:46 AM
hahahaha gh doesnt help joint injuries....

Is that what you get trying to fire one up while walking down the stairs and falling?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Secret Stack on February 11, 2011, 08:36:15 AM
gh15, i was going to pm you this question but thought it would be on topic here...

regarding hgh dosage and mutation...
you have only spoke of maximum dosages of 30-40iu. you stop here with mutation of pros of today.

serious question and only a "what if" question here, if money was no problem and the finest gh was used, what would happen if one went to 100iu a day? is this a new breed of mutation?
double a ron coleman, jason cutler, kai greene mass wise?

just curious as you have only spoke of limits of 40iu.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Stavios on February 11, 2011, 08:46:08 AM
gh15, i was going to pm you this question but thought it would be on topic here...

regarding hgh dosage and mutation...
you have only spoke of maximum dosages of 30-40iu. you stop here with mutation of pros of today.

serious question and only a "what if" question here, if money was no problem and the finest gh was used, what would happen if one went to 100iu a day? is this a new breed of mutation?
double a ron coleman, jason cutler, kai greene mass wise?

just curious as you have only spoke of limits of 40iu.

at 100iu he wouldn't even be able to type on the keyboard
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 11, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
gh15, i was going to pm you this question but thought it would be on topic here...

regarding hgh dosage and mutation...
you have only spoke of maximum dosages of 30-40iu. you stop here with mutation of pros of today.

serious question and only a "what if" question here, if money was no problem and the finest gh was used, what would happen if one went to 100iu a day? is this a new breed of mutation?
double a ron coleman, jason cutler, kai greene mass wise?

just curious as you have only spoke of limits of 40iu.

Thats a great question, it would be interesting to know what would happen on such high doses, is there a cut off point for gains vs sides
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 12, 2011, 01:53:02 AM
Dear God, what is the absolute lowest level of bodyfat that a lifetime natural trainer can possibly achieve? Is it sub-5 or maybe even sub-4? Thank you for your time

5.5 to 6 ,,6 for most whites,,asian go down to 5.5 or so black can too go to 5.5  ,,from frotn it may look 5 but from back you will see that its 5.5 to 6 depending on race usualy and also personal skin tone etc

gh15 approved
Title: pm question answered
Post by: gh15 on February 12, 2011, 01:59:54 AM
I'm at 18ui serono a day / 9ui am , 9ui pm / cost plenty , it sure work , built mass, every week , gain , visible to my own eyes ,  very happy despite the expense , 1000$ a week in canada / I'm sure lower genetic like me who try make it top 5 national , abuse of it , but how ? 18ui in one shot since it' Half life last 12 hours / or 9ui evry 6 hours ?
I'm a amateur who reveal this on rx , reaction was diverse , for me , it's th sport n th way to go , costly n fun , you need that financial investment passion

Thk u

Sorry for th french-glish

get kigropin ,,much cheapr and smae quality,, use 3-5 iu every time inject inject every few hours,,if you have 18 iu or more do 4-5 iu  4-5 times a day every few hour ,, every 4 hour 4 iu or 5 iu for your level,,i nto recomend 18 iu one injection because body will not know what to do with all of it and sides will be too strong,,body need it in smaller doses ,,4 to 6 iu will be good dose then few time a day

gh15 approved
Title: pm question answerd
Post by: gh15 on February 12, 2011, 02:08:30 AM
Hey gh15, am i lean/big enough to use gh or should i try to get leaner and bigger first? I got a source from one of your pupil not long ago. I'm 5'8 240lbs here super bloofy

(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/Jack_Nicholson_2009/mj-1.jpg)

this is no blofy,,this is very thick physiqe it is good physiqe to start gh with,,you are 21 like you mention in the other pm and your natural gh is very good acording to this picture,,if you use gh you need 6 iu no less every single day preferably,,at your age the naturla gh can be very good like it is in your case eventhiough you hold fat and water it is far from bloofy and actualy thick and muscular thick ,,on 6 iu or over of legit gh you will be very defined,,3 dimntion,,and depending on dose a mutant will be created,,you already exteely large,,this is huge 5;8 240 is huge at the bodyfat level you present ,,i would add gh if i want to be competetive,,if i didnt want to compete id wait until 25 and then add gh,,if you just want to look like mutant with out competing then add gh now,,all depending on what you want,,gh = quality single digit 3 d of what you are now,,meaning you dont lose a lb of muscle and get as lean as possible with lines visible


gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on February 12, 2011, 02:22:36 AM
How does a normal person with a job inject 5 times a day? Imagine being in a meeting where a bunch of ass clowns that keep asking lame questions, or being in the middle of something on the computer, or even just having a conversation with another worker and then suddenly you have to pin yourself. Hell, sometimes I get stuck in traffic and my eating schedule gets throw off -- and I only eat 4 times a day (and one of those meals is just a shake). Do you have to pull over and fumble through your cooler for your slin pin?

Serious bodybuilding is a royal pain in the ass.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: DK II on February 12, 2011, 02:28:15 AM
How does a normal person with a job inject 5 times a day? Imagine being in a meeting where a bunch of ass clowns that keep asking lame questions, or being in the middle of something on the computer, or even just having a conversation with another worker and then suddenly you have to pin yourself. Hell, sometimes I get stuck in traffic and my eating schedule gets throw off -- and I only eat 4 times a day (and one of those meals is just a shake). Do you have to pull over and fumble through your cooler for your slin pin?

Serious bodybuilding is a royal pain in the ass.

You think your co-workers will not appreciate it if you shoot HGH during a meeting?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: dj181 on February 12, 2011, 02:31:17 AM
Thanks for da answer ma man. So I guess dat I gots to be happy wit achieving a sub-6 status 8) It would be kinda cool to see if a sub-5 was achievible, but if it ain't achievible then it ain't achievible
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on February 12, 2011, 02:32:38 AM
You think your co-workers will not appreciate it if you shoot HGH during a meeting?

I guess you can pass yourself off as a Type 1 diabetic.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Stavios on February 12, 2011, 02:36:32 AM
haha that's the BLP fella on rxmuscle

he should post more often on getbig
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: DK II on February 12, 2011, 02:44:02 AM
I guess you can pass yourself off as a Type 1 diabetic.

I don't even think it would be a problem to do so. Seriously, i think people would behave much more advert if you would bring a tub of protein and creatine with you and mix a shake in the lunch break.

Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on February 12, 2011, 02:52:31 AM
I don't even think it would be a problem to do so. Seriously, i think people would behave much more advert if you would bring a tub of protein and creatine with you and mix a shake in the lunch break.



LOL, I see tools like that in the gym locker room all the time. They put the powder in a plastic bag and then dump in their GNC shaker cup and head to the faucet. I always have mine with the powder already in the cup and I use an empty Gatorade bottle so no eye brows are raised followed by the lame questions. "What's that?" "Is it good for you?" "Do you like it?" "What is it for?" "Does it work?"

In a way it's good that Hawaii doesn't allow concealed carry permits.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: DK II on February 12, 2011, 03:43:49 AM
LOL, I see tools like that in the gym locker room all the time. They put the powder in a plastic bag and then dump in their GNC shaker cup and head to the faucet. I always have mine with the powder already in the cup and I use an empty Gatorade bottle so no eye brows are raised followed by the lame questions. "What's that?" "Is it good for you?" "Do you like it?" "What is it for?" "Does it work?"

In a way it's good that Hawaii doesn't allow concealed carry permits.


Well, and that's in a gym...

Don't even try to bring any kind of supplement to the company. I once made the mistake and brought a re-fillable bottle with some sports drink to work, everybody was asking me if that was "PROTEIN", i told them it was just a sports drink, which only comes in 500ml bottles and i didn't want to carry two bottles with me, so i put it into a re-fillable 1l bottle....
Since that day, WHATEVER i drank was "PROTEIN"....  ::) ::)

fucking idiots.

I bet if i had put out a syringe, say i have diabetes and shoot right in front of everybody into the delts, they would have pitied me and never speak about it again.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: WillGrant on February 12, 2011, 04:03:39 AM
How does a normal person with a job inject 5 times a day? Imagine being in a meeting where a bunch of ass clowns that keep asking lame questions, or being in the middle of something on the computer, or even just having a conversation with another worker and then suddenly you have to pin yourself. Hell, sometimes I get stuck in traffic and my eating schedule gets throw off -- and I only eat 4 times a day (and one of those meals is just a shake). Do you have to pull over and fumble through your cooler for your slin pin?

Serious bodybuilding is a royal pain in the ass.
use bathroom
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 12, 2011, 05:15:27 AM
use bathroom

lolo yup!

i take mine in my gym bag with an ice pack. the minute im done training, into the change room, grab my g and my pin and into the stall i go.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 12, 2011, 05:17:32 AM
lolo yup!

i take mine in my gym bag with an ice pack. the minute im done training, into the change room, grab my g and my pin and into the stall i go.

Ive done the same thing ;)
Title: Re: pm question answerd
Post by: no one on February 12, 2011, 05:19:30 AM
this is no blofy,,this is very thick physiqe it is good physiqe to start gh with,,you are 21 like you mention in the other pm and your natural gh is very good acording to this picture,,if you use gh you need 6 iu no less every single day preferably,,at your age the naturla gh can be very good like it is in your case eventhiough you hold fat and water it is far from bloofy and actualy thick and muscular thick ,,on 6 iu or over of legit gh you will be very defined,,3 dimntion,,and depending on dose a mutant will be created,,you already exteely large,,this is huge 5;8 240 is huge at the bodyfat level you present ,,i would add gh if i want to be competetive,,if i didnt want to compete id wait until 25 and then add gh,,if you just want to look like mutant with out competing then add gh now,,all depending on what you want,,gh = quality single digit 3 d of what you are now,,meaning you dont lose a lb of muscle and get as lean as possible with lines visible


gh15 approved

yup. this guy has great density for a young guy. tonnes of potential. depends on what he wants to do with it. the embolded part says it perfectly.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 12, 2011, 05:22:27 AM
Ive done the same thing ;)

yeah you've almost got to. you gotta space your igf and gh an hour apart, plus ideally you want your g on an empty stomach right after training. so if you dont pin right after your workout your first meal after training could be like 2 hours away. fuck that.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: RJ DRIVER on February 12, 2011, 05:24:22 AM
haha that's the BLP fella on rxmuscle

he should post more often on getbig
Why? So we can hear about this buffoon fucking trannies?
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: _bruce_ on February 12, 2011, 05:50:36 AM
Just work for Scott Alexander - no meeting without a healthy GH shootout.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on February 12, 2011, 08:29:34 AM
Thanks for da answer ma man. So I guess dat I gots to be happy wit achieving a sub-6 status 8) It would be kinda cool to see if a sub-5 was achievible, but if it ain't achievible then it ain't achievible

You're such a fucking clown it's fucking embarrasing.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: chaos on February 12, 2011, 08:32:14 AM
You're such a fucking clown it's fucking embarrasing.
X2
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: no one on February 12, 2011, 08:32:34 AM
Thanks for da answer ma man. So I guess dat I gots to be happy wit achieving a sub-6 status 8) It would be kinda cool to see if a sub-5 was achievible, but if it ain't achievible then it ain't achievible

what the fuck is wrong with your ability to use proper english- you sound like a fucking retard.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Stavios on February 12, 2011, 10:07:14 AM
yeah you've almost got to. you gotta space your igf and gh an hour apart, plus ideally you want your g on an empty stomach right after training. so if you dont pin right after your workout your first meal after training could be like 2 hours away. fuck that.

did you like IGF ?

tried it once at 50mcg post workout and I didn't see any changes
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 12, 2011, 10:51:43 AM
did you like IGF ?

tried it once at 50mcg post workout and I didn't see any changes

the first time i used it was about 3 years ago, around the time of the olympics. i didnt get fuck all out of it- nothing. and i was meticulous about it too.

what i didnt know was at that time there was a shit load of fake igf around- around the time leading up to the olympics it was hard to get anything.

i am just trying it for the second time now. i am pinning it only in my outer head of my bicep, and the long and medial heads of my tricep. i've been doing this for 2 weeks now, 80mcg bi laterally (40 each side).

this is where it gets tricky- all im taking is 200mg test blend eod, 100mg NPP eod, 4iu gh 6 on one off, and 80mcg igf 5 on 2 off- im being completely honest about my dosages here. my training right now is going the best it ever has. im literally growing like a weed. i honestly cannot believe what is going on. i have put on 8.5 pounds in the past 2 weeks just adjusting my macros (upped my fats 40grms a day) cause im dieting pretty hard. that weight gain is lean weight as my carbs are only 80 grams of starch so i know im not holding water from them.

coincidentally, i started the igf and upped my fats around the same time- and thats when things really started to come together.

its so hard to say stav- lol. my training routine is new to me and only 5 weeks old- ive trained the same way for almost a decade and just changed it for a higher volume workout. the igf is new to me. the npp im running is new to me. the diet im using is new to me. the hyge pinwheels are new to me. so i cant narrow it down to one thing and say 'hey- its this!' but i do know that everything is working the way is should, if not better than it should, you know? if the kits were junk id know it. if the diet wasnt working id know it. if the npp was no good id know it. etc etc.

so i cant point a finger and say 'this fucking igf rocks', but i dont think its a coincidence that my rapid weight gain came from the 40 grams of coconut oil i added into my diet around the same time i started the igf.

sorry for the long post but wanted to be as clear and helpful as i could.

:)

Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Stavios on February 12, 2011, 11:15:22 AM
hahaha yeah I understand I use so many shits together than you never know what does what  ;D
Title: Re: pm question answerd
Post by: Nasty Nate on February 12, 2011, 11:40:57 AM
this is no blofy,,this is very thick physiqe it is good physiqe to start gh with,,you are 21 like you mention in the other pm and your natural gh is very good acording to this picture,,if you use gh you need 6 iu no less every single day preferably,,at your age the naturla gh can be very good like it is in your case eventhiough you hold fat and water it is far from bloofy and actualy thick and muscular thick ,,on 6 iu or over of legit gh you will be very defined,,3 dimntion,,and depending on dose a mutant will be created,,you already exteely large,,this is huge 5;8 240 is huge at the bodyfat level you present ,,i would add gh if i want to be competetive,,if i didnt want to compete id wait until 25 and then add gh,,if you just want to look like mutant with out competing then add gh now,,all depending on what you want,,gh = quality single digit 3 d of what you are now,,meaning you dont lose a lb of muscle and get as lean as possible with lines visible


gh15 approved

Thanks gh... im gonna order some next week and ill pm you a month from then.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: epic_alien on February 12, 2011, 11:53:21 AM
How does a normal person with a job inject 5 times a day? Imagine being in a meeting where a bunch of ass clowns that keep asking lame questions, or being in the middle of something on the computer, or even just having a conversation with another worker and then suddenly you have to pin yourself. Hell, sometimes I get stuck in traffic and my eating schedule gets throw off -- and I only eat 4 times a day (and one of those meals is just a shake). Do you have to pull over and fumble through your cooler for your slin pin?

Serious bodybuilding is a royal pain in the ass.

its straight up cock power yo,

you wouldn't undertstand
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: DK II on February 15, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
You're such a fucking clown it's fucking embarrasing.

x1000000000000000
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Jaime on February 15, 2011, 05:38:16 PM
Thanks for da answer ma man. So I guess dat I gots to be happy wit achieving a sub-6 status 8) It would be kinda cool to see if a sub-5 was achievible, but if it ain't achievible then it ain't achievible


Do you really believe that gh15 has been around enough naturals at those type of bodyweights to come to any real conclusion on the matter? lol
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: tbombz on February 15, 2011, 05:51:28 PM
yeah you've almost got to. you gotta space your igf and gh an hour apart, plus ideally you want your g on an empty stomach right after training. so if you dont pin right after your workout your first meal after training could be like 2 hours away. fuck that.
you dont have to be all detailed about the timing of injections dude, not going to make any difference whatsoever
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: ManBearPig... on February 15, 2011, 05:56:56 PM
you dont have to be all detailed about the timing of injections dude, not going to make any difference whatsoever

ok, Mr. Smashed Asshole Physique.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: kiwiol on February 15, 2011, 06:07:02 PM
x1000000000000000

Ya not a fan of da ebonics, DK ??? ;D
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: DK II on February 15, 2011, 06:30:38 PM
Ya not a fan of da ebonics, DK ??? ;D

Well, if it's a big fat negro who's ebonicking around, i don't give a fuck, but some 150lbs white 37 year old idiot, i think it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Secret Stack on February 15, 2011, 07:16:23 PM
gh15, i was going to pm you this question but thought it would be on topic here...

regarding hgh dosage and mutation...
you have only spoke of maximum dosages of 30-40iu. you stop here with mutation of pros of today.

serious question and only a "what if" question here, if money was no problem and the finest gh was used, what would happen if one went to 100iu a day? is this a new breed of mutation?
double a ron coleman, jason cutler, kai greene mass wise?

just curious as you have only spoke of limits of 40iu.

gh15?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Master Blaster on February 15, 2011, 07:18:04 PM
whats "npp"?
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Emmortal on February 15, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
whats "npp"?

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 15, 2011, 07:27:45 PM
gh15?

thereis point of diminishin return both result and money,,first if some oen is dumb to waste money on 100iu of gh a day without gettgin phenominal out of this world result with 20 iu a day then this someone need to sit next in that buss from one flew over the kookoo nest right next to nicolson,,
100 iu make your body fight it insted of taking it,, 35-40 is usualy max human take and even this is over done,,the water retention with 50iu of gh a day will be crazy even with best quality gh ,,side effect will be big even with pure of pure gh and you wont get any better result

ofcoursew if it is fake gh even 200iu a day will nto help,,

legit gh at 6-34 iu every day is what most bodybuild take from amatuer levels to the top pro

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Secret Stack on February 15, 2011, 07:51:11 PM
thereis point of diminishin return both result and money,,first if some oen is dumb to waste money on 100iu of gh a day without gettgin phenominal out of this world result with 20 iu a day then this someone need to sit next in that buss from one flew over the kookoo nest right next to nicolson,,
100 iu make your body fight it insted of taking it,, 35-40 is usualy max human take and even this is over done,,the water retention with 50iu of gh a day will be crazy even with best quality gh ,,side effect will be big even with pure of pure gh and you wont get any better result

ofcoursew if it is fake gh even 200iu a day will nto help,,

legit gh at 6-34 iu every day is what most bodybuild take from amatuer levels to the top pro

gh15 approved
LOL @ bold!!  ;D

OK, so basically we are at the end of bodybuuilding in terms of muscle. nothing happens after the 40iu mark that would be achievable for the pro stage.

thanks.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: mossel on February 16, 2011, 12:00:40 AM
thereis point of diminishin return both result and money,,first if some oen is dumb to waste money on 100iu of gh a day without gettgin phenominal out of this world result with 20 iu a day then this someone need to sit next in that buss from one flew over the kookoo nest right next to nicolson,,
100 iu make your body fight it insted of taking it,, 35-40 is usualy max human take and even this is over done,,the water retention with 50iu of gh a day will be crazy even with best quality gh ,,side effect will be big even with pure of pure gh and you wont get any better result

ofcoursew if it is fake gh even 200iu a day will nto help,,

legit gh at 6-34 iu every day is what most bodybuild take from amatuer levels to the top pro

gh15 approved



Question: Is this available in the cult? http://www.pnas.org/content/105/11/4318 (http://www.pnas.org/content/105/11/4318)
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: dj181 on February 16, 2011, 03:06:04 AM
Well kiwi, according to DK I'm the dumbest guy on the internet, so I guess that it's quite an accomplishment to be dubbed da dumbest out of over a billion folks ;D And Jamie, yeah I buy what God is saying since he said earlier that he worked with plenty of lifetime natural trainers in Europe.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 16, 2011, 06:14:52 AM
you dont have to be all detailed about the timing of injections dude, not going to make any difference whatsoever

wrong.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 16, 2011, 06:36:47 AM
wrong.


would you mind listing the ideal timing for HGH and IGF injections? thanks ;)
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Meso_z on February 16, 2011, 06:52:50 AM
whats "npp"?

"no problem with penis".
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 16, 2011, 07:02:17 AM
would you mind listing the ideal timing for HGH and IGF injections? thanks ;)

sorry. look it up.  ;)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 16, 2011, 07:08:43 AM
sorry. look it up.  ;)


Thanks :(
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 16, 2011, 10:36:32 AM
Thanks :(

 :D

typically, you'll want to take your gh on an empty stomach- there are too many variables that will affect its pulse if you do not. so an ideal time would be first thing in the am before morning cardio. the other best time is post workout. this means fasting for an hour after your workout, which to be is fine as i am cutting now anyway. this is if you are only running 4-5 iu ed. anything greater than that you'll need a third and depending on the amount your running, a 4th dosage.

the igf you'll only want to take 1 hour post training, and preferably an hour after your gh. i have been told by a pro to make sure the gh and igf are spaced an hour a part. i'll take his word over some kid that rides a dirt bike that posts online and has never done it.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 16, 2011, 10:46:54 AM
:D

typically, you'll want to take your gh on an empty stomach- there are too many variables that will affect its pulse if you do not. so an ideal time would be first thing in the am before morning cardio. the other best time is post workout. this means fasting for an hour after your workout, which to be is fine as i am cutting now anyway. this is if you are only running 4-5 iu ed. anything greater than that you'll need a third and depending on the amount your running, a 4th dosage.

the igf you'll only want to take 1 hour post training, and preferably an hour after your gh. i have been told by a pro to make sure the gh and igf are spaced an hour a part. i'll take his word over some kid that rides a dirt bike that posts online and has never done it.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on February 16, 2011, 11:09:01 AM
:D

typically, you'll want to take your gh on an empty stomach- there are too many variables that will affect its pulse if you do not. so an ideal time would be first thing in the am before morning cardio. the other best time is post workout. this means fasting for an hour after your workout, which to be is fine as i am cutting now anyway. this is if you are only running 4-5 iu ed. anything greater than that you'll need a third and depending on the amount your running, a 4th dosage.

the igf you'll only want to take 1 hour post training, and preferably an hour after your gh. i have been told by a pro to make sure the gh and igf are spaced an hour a part. i'll take his word over some kid that rides a dirt bike that posts online and has never done it.

That's what I always thought since you naturally produce HGH when blood sugar is low, such as when you sleep and haven't eaten in a while. But if you remember, I posed this question to god and he said it's nonsense. In fact, he even seem to encourage eating after taking your gh as often you get hungry anyway due to a drop in blood sugar (which is something I don't understand as I thought it was insulin that lowered blood sugar whereas hgh had the opposite effect -- prevent glucose from being shuttled into the cells). Besides, if you are on a mutation cycle and pining yourself 4-5 times a day in addition to eating 6 times a day it's going to be a bitch to always time your shots 2 hours after eating and waiting at least an hour after pining. It can be done but you really have to live a vry regimented life and making sure that you have those breaks throughout the work day.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 16, 2011, 12:43:40 PM
That's what I always thought since you naturally produce HGH when blood sugar is low, such as when you sleep and haven't eaten in a while. But if you remember, I posed this question to god and he said it's nonsense. In fact, he even seem to encourage eating after taking your gh as often you get hungry anyway due to a drop in blood sugar (which is something I don't understand as I thought it was insulin that lowered blood sugar whereas hgh had the opposite effect -- prevent glucose from being shuttled into the cells). Besides, if you are on a mutation cycle and pining yourself 4-5 times a day in addition to eating 6 times a day it's going to be a bitch to always time your shots 2 hours after eating and waiting at least an hour after pining. It can be done but you really have to live a vry regimented life and making sure that you have those breaks throughout the work day.

thats why a lot of guys are going IV instead of IM for injection. in and out- super fast. no need to worry about anything affecting the pulse. i think 2 units reaches its pulse in about 30 min if i remember correctly using IV.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: pellius on February 16, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
thats why a lot of guys are going IV instead of IM for injection. in and out- super fast. no need to worry about anything affecting the pulse. i think 2 units reaches its pulse in about 30 min if i remember correctly using IV.

Really? I'm not doubting you. It just makes me think that as bodybuilding "progresses" it just moves more and more away from the idea of health, strength and vitality. You're just a walking lab experiment having little, if any, practical application. The actual training moves more and more into the background.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Jaime on February 16, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
Well kiwi, according to DK I'm the dumbest guy on the internet, so I guess that it's quite an accomplishment to be dubbed da dumbest out of over a billion folks ;D And Jamie, yeah I buy what God is saying since he said earlier that he worked with plenty of lifetime natural trainers in Europe.

Only he hasn't. He is just a bodybuilder, you know many bodybuilders who train with hundreds of naturals? I don't even see many naturals down the local health club gym let alone sub 6 guys.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: Emmortal on February 16, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
thats why a lot of guys are going IV instead of IM for injection. in and out- super fast. no need to worry about anything affecting the pulse. i think 2 units reaches its pulse in about 30 min if i remember correctly using IV.

IV has a higher absorption rate meaning less is lost versus IM injection as well.  Not sure about the peaking reaching that quickly though.  Not saying it's wrong, just that I haven't seen anything showing it does, but theoretically it would make sense.
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 16, 2011, 02:55:54 PM
Really? I'm not doubting you. It just makes me think that as bodybuilding "progresses" it just moves more and more away from the idea of health, strength and vitality. You're just a walking lab experiment having little, if any, practical application. The actual training moves more and more into the background.


i agree with you 100% thats why you dont see guys today as hard as they were back in the early 90's/ late 80's. now a guy can go from just starting working out to the nationals stage in like 3 years. the quality and density of the muscle is gone. its all drugs now bro. yeah, and IV is for real. to those who say timing isnt important fucking right it is. gh is so fragile the slightest thing can affect its pulse. carb intake, anything. so the faster you can get it in and out, the sooner you can eat and grow. thats why not many guys look to subq anymore for injection- its like a dinosaur- old and outdated.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 16, 2011, 04:16:36 PM
Well, if it's a big fat negro who's ebonicking around, i don't give a fuck, but some 150lbs white 37 year old idiot, i think it's ridiculous.

X 650,000.

I cannot stand that fucking idiot.

I motion that we attack him relentlessly and viciously  every single time he posts.....This asshole needs to go
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: tbombz on February 16, 2011, 08:41:10 PM
:D

typically, you'll want to take your gh on an empty stomach- there are too many variables that will affect its pulse if you do not. so an ideal time would be first thing in the am before morning cardio. the other best time is post workout. this means fasting for an hour after your workout, which to be is fine as i am cutting now anyway. this is if you are only running 4-5 iu ed. anything greater than that you'll need a third and depending on the amount your running, a 4th dosage.

the igf you'll only want to take 1 hour post training, and preferably an hour after your gh. i have been told by a pro to make sure the gh and igf are spaced an hour a part. i'll take his word over some kid that rides a dirt bike that posts online and has never done it.

dude gh takes a day or more to do its thing. splitting it up, trying to "time it" is ineffectual.
Title: pm q answered
Post by: gh15 on February 16, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
i have been introduced to

tev-tropin

mainly see it in use for GHD in kids - wanted to know how you felt about this compared to nordics blues/reds

from isreal ,,shoud be good its now 191,,never used it ,,kigtropin is only gh i recomend now day,,thanktropin close second ,,but kigtropin is just purest gh nowday,, first time china got something right,,it is prety much equivelent to seros

gh15 approved
Title: Re: pm question answered
Post by: no one on February 17, 2011, 05:56:02 AM
dude gh takes a day or more to do its thing. splitting it up, trying to "time it" is ineffectual.

lol ok.
Title: Re: pm q answered
Post by: Emmortal on February 17, 2011, 11:41:26 AM
from isreal ,,shoud be good its now 191,,never used it ,,kigtropin is only gh i recomend now day,,thanktropin close second ,,but kigtropin is just purest gh nowday,, first time china got something right,,it is prety much equivelent to seros

gh15 approved

I've used Tev-tropin straight from the doctor here in the US.  It's as legit as it gets, equal to Saizen in quality/potency.  It's US FDA approved GH so it's good to go.