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Title: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 12, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
Embarrassing performance tonight.  Straight up shameful.  He will never see that #1 spot again.

Thanks for many great years of fights.




 
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 12, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
Embarrassing performance tonight.  Straight up shameful.  He will never see that #1 spot again.

Thanks for many great years of fights.




 

  He is still a million times the man that Dana White is: much braver, more honorable, honest and gentle than that lying scumbag who exploits his fighters and has no scruples. Fedor is finished as fighter, but he's still an inspiration as an example of someone who came from below and became the best in the World at something wihtout never losing his humbleness and respect for other people.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 12, 2011, 10:41:52 PM
  He is still a million times the man that Dana White is: much braver, more honorable, honest and gentle than that lying scumbag who exploits his fighters and has no scruples. Fedor is finished as fighter, but he's still an inspiration as an example of someone who came from below and became the best in the World at something wihtout never losing his humbleness and respect for other people.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

WTF? Why are comparing Fedor to Dana? One is a promoter and one is a fighter. Accept the fact that several of us on here called out Fedor and his status long ago. Guess we know who was right & who was wrong, don't we?

I'm not disrespecting Fedor. I actually like him as a person and fighter. I just didn't think he deserved his high rankings in recent years.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 12, 2011, 11:04:47 PM
WTF? Why are comparing Fedor to Dana? One is a promoter and one is a fighter. Accept the fact that several of us on here called out Fedor and his status long ago. Guess we know who was right & who was wrong, don't we?

I'm not disrespecting Fedor. I actually like him as a person and fighter. I just didn't think he deserved his high rankings in recent years.

  I think Fedor in 2004 was not only the greatest heavyweight but also the greatest pound-for-pound ever. The way he manhendled and toyed with prime Nogueira almost three times was just ridiculous. And yes, I am comparing Fedor and Dana. Both are Humans, and Fedor is a much better Human Being than Dana.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: smoothasf on February 12, 2011, 11:45:31 PM
That was his last fight, on Facebook I just read minutes ago a message to his fans saying it was his last and "I leave everything in the ring tonight".
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 12:05:47 AM
He should drop to light heavy.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: GraniteCityDon on February 13, 2011, 01:02:06 AM
I hoped he still had enough in the tank to win the tournament but evidently not. Hell of a shame to see a champion of his caliber actively deteriorate, chances are we will never see a fighter like him in this lifetime and we should be pleased that we dont have to watch 30 year old archive footage to see what he could do.

That being said, with Fedor now out my pick for the tournament is now Bigfoot. I stated that i thought he was the guy had he not been drawn against Fedor but with that win hes my number 1 pick again.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: UGMT on February 13, 2011, 04:52:56 AM
I was his biggest fan since I was in Jr high. Time to let it go though.
Thanks for the memories!!!!!
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 07:49:17 AM
Fedor exposed again. 

Fedor nuthuggers unite.  Maybe losing to Bigfoot silva isn't so bad, regardless of the fact his cranium is the size of Pluto and Fedor still couldn't seem to KO him. 

All kidding aside, I don't understand  all the doom and gloom right now.  The guy has had two losses in a row.  SO what.  Really he should drop to lightheavy.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Geo on February 13, 2011, 08:14:22 AM


I'm not disrespecting Fedor. I actually like him as a person and fighter. I just didn't think he deserved his high rankings in recent years.

I think Fedor earned the #1 spot in pride and nobody until Werdum knocked him off that throne so personally I'm ok with him having occupied the #1 spot, even if he was taking the path of least resistance for the last 3 years.

it's pretty pointless to argue about rankings and mythical titles anyways.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 13, 2011, 08:59:40 AM
Fedor exposed again. 

Fedor nuthuggers unite.  Maybe losing to Bigfoot silva isn't so bad, regardless of the fact his cranium is the size of Pluto and Fedor still couldn't seem to KO him. 

All kidding aside, I don't understand  all the doom and gloom right now.  The guy has had two losses in a row.  SO what.  Really he should drop to lightheavy.

  You are a moron. A cranium the size of Pluto? This simply means he is harder to knock out. Big heads can absorb more shock. All the guys who can eat punches have these huge heads, like Nogueira. And Big Foot was 285 lbs in that cage. Yeah, it is so shameful for a 230 lbs fighter to lose to someone who outweights him by three weight divisions! Like there is great shame for a lightweight to lose to a light-heavyweight.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 13, 2011, 02:10:02 PM
Fedor exposed again. 

Fedor nuthuggers unite.  Maybe losing to Bigfoot silva isn't so bad, regardless of the fact his cranium is the size of Pluto and Fedor still couldn't seem to KO him. 

All kidding aside, I don't understand  all the doom and gloom right now.  The guy has had two losses in a row.  SO what.  Really he should drop to lightheavy.

I think a lot of the gloom with his 'guy' fans is that many though he was this untouchable, inhuman being that would never lose.

Fedor's management did a lot of damage to Fedor's credibility the last few years. It bit them in the ass...he has back to back loses to mediocre fighters. At least they could have put him up against bigger names like Overeem, or UFC HW's.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: GraniteCityDon on February 13, 2011, 02:26:24 PM
I think its unfair to say that theyre mediocre. Both are excellent and could make a strong push for top 10 in the world (6 billion people + ) so they are by no means an easy task. Werdum is mocked for losing to JDS, who is being touted as anything from 1 - 3 in the world so wheres the shame? Bigfoot is going to be very difficult for anyone to beat and is getting better all the time.

People need to remember that Fedors prime wasnt just a few months ago, it was years. Years that can change a person so before you know it you are actually living on past memories viewed on Youtube. At his best he was unstoppable but, lets be fair, he was exposed against Andrei (who is now a stepping stone at best) and has deteriorated from there.

Had M-1 put him against Overeem / UFC's best fighters imagine what they could have done to him in comparison to the men you label as "mediocre".
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 13, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
i think it's time

he can still be a good fighter but he can't be the best anymore, he probably won't be able to accept anything less than that, including his haters ::)

nobody can be the best forever, and nobody can say they were the best as long as the great Fedor Emelianenko

thanks for the memories

E
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 13, 2011, 02:53:33 PM
Fedor exposed again. 

Fedor nuthuggers unite.  Maybe losing to Bigfoot silva isn't so bad, regardless of the fact his cranium is the size of Pluto and Fedor still couldn't seem to KO him. 

All kidding aside, I don't understand  all the doom and gloom right now.  The guy has had two losses in a row.  SO what.  Really he should drop to lightheavy.

Gracie, Liddell, Wandy, and  CroCop have all been exposed too? Your a moron that dont know shit about fist fighting boy.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 13, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
I think its unfair to say that theyre mediocre. Both are excellent and could make a strong push for top 10 in the world (6 billion people + ) so they are by no means an easy task. Werdum is mocked for losing to JDS, who is being touted as anything from 1 - 3 in the world so wheres the shame? Bigfoot is going to be very difficult for anyone to beat and is getting better all the time.

People need to remember that Fedors prime wasnt just a few months ago, it was years. Years that can change a person so before you know it you are actually living on past memories viewed on Youtube. At his best he was unstoppable but, lets be fair, he was exposed against Andrei (who is now a stepping stone at best) and has deteriorated from there.

Had M-1 put him against Overeem / UFC's best fighters imagine what they could have done to him in comparison to the men you label as "mediocre".

You gotta understand, the people saying that shit just started watching UFC recently and never even knew about the sport when Fedor was mangling people 5- 10 years ago.

These are the "fans" that the professional fighters despise and wish they would go back to watching pro wrestling.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 04:31:39 PM
Gracie, Liddell, Wandy, and  CroCop have all been exposed too? Your a moron that dont know shit about fist fighting boy.
lol.

Fist fighting.    ;D

Sorry the balloon burst.  Time to worship someone new.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: chaos on February 13, 2011, 04:36:58 PM
Gracie, Liddell, Wandy, and  CroCop have all been exposed too? Your a moron that dont know shit about fist fighting boy.

The irony.......
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 13, 2011, 04:49:19 PM
lol.

Fist fighting.    ;D

Sorry the balloon burst.  Time to worship someone new.

Yeah and whats all this "worship" and that other one you always say, "nuthugging" talk about? This isn't pro wrestling where people are supposed to look for video game type characters to admire and worship. This is about watching the best fighters in the world compete and having the opportunity to watch greats like Fedor, Anderson Silva, Shogun Rua, and others do what they do best. I admire Fedor for his almost inhuman fighting ability and respect him as a man, but im still confused about this fixation you seem to have on telling fight fans that they are obsessed fanatics or something I dont now what to say.

All I know is I like watching great fighters fight and I saw the best mixed martial artists the sport has seen come to the end of his career last night. Life goes on. You are not a mixed martial arts fan either, you are a brand logo fan, which is pretty fucked up considering your missing the entire point of the sport. Weirdo.   
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 04:56:01 PM
Utter meltdown.

Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 13, 2011, 04:57:25 PM
Utter meltdown.



go watch pro wrestling tuffer lol
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 05:09:45 PM
You need a changing, baby
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: benchmstr on February 13, 2011, 05:17:08 PM
go watch pro wrestling tuffer lol

You need a changing, baby

2 gimmicks arguing.....sounds like a double meltdown, for you both...

bench
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 05:23:47 PM
2 gimmicks arguing.....sounds like a double meltdown, for you both...

bench

Ok " bench"    ::)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: benchmstr on February 13, 2011, 05:32:04 PM
Ok " bench"    ::)
ok "mindspin" ::)

bench
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
ok "mindspin" ::)

bench
boy " bench" so original.  ::)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: benchmstr on February 13, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
boy " bench" so original.  ::)
...but so true...

bench
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 13, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
...but so true...

bench

If you can prove that ill delete my account.  Ok " bench"?
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: benchmstr on February 13, 2011, 09:33:44 PM
If you can prove that ill delete my account.  Ok " bench"?
ok

bench
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: 20inch calves on February 13, 2011, 11:46:58 PM
can't say it was embarrassing it was a good fight. silva fought smart by taking it to the ground in the second because he knew fedor was getting his timing down. i am going to go on record and say overeem will win it all
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 14, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
can't say it was embarrassing it was a good fight. silva fought smart by taking it to the ground in the second because he knew fedor was getting his timing down. i am going to go on record and say overeem will win it all

Rogers will KO everyone and win the tourney.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: MindSpin on February 14, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
Lol...mindspin is alive and well.  And smiling from ear to ear after seeing Fedor exposed...again!  Ha ha aha ahhahaha!!!
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 14, 2011, 10:58:23 AM
Lol...mindspin is alive and well.  And smiling from ear to ear after seeing Fedor exposed...again!  Ha ha aha ahhahaha!!!

Did you know that you and I are a gimmick once again?

Didn't this happen last time Fedor was beaten?

haha ;D
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: K-1 on February 14, 2011, 11:03:59 AM
Rogers will KO everyone and win the tourney.

THE GRIM!!

(http://bearmythology.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/brett-rogers-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: MindSpin on February 14, 2011, 11:05:58 AM
Did you know that you and I are a gimmick once again?

Didn't this happen last time Fedor was beaten?

haha ;D

It's all they can go to....futile accusations, dick & ball talk and name calling.  It still doesn't change anything. Fedor was exposed....again!  lol
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: kevcat on February 14, 2011, 11:23:11 AM
It's all they can go to....futile accusations, dick & ball talk and name calling.  It still doesn't change anything. Fedor was exposed....again!  lol

Exposed how? He lost a fight, its hardly being exposed. Most fighters lose in their careers, it doesnt mean theyre 'exposed'  ;)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 14, 2011, 12:01:07 PM
Lol...mindspin is alive and well.  And smiling from ear to ear after seeing Fedor exposed...again!  Ha ha aha ahhahaha!!!

like i said you would years before his first loss ::)

serious question, do you think trevor berbick is a better boxer than muhammad ali?

E
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 14, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
It's all they can go to....futile accusations, dick & ball talk and name calling.  It still doesn't change anything. Fedor was exposed....again!  lol

Your favorite fighter was also exposed.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: MindSpin on February 14, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
Your favorite fighter was also exposed.

Who's my favorite fighter and how was he exposed ???
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 14, 2011, 02:36:11 PM
Lol...mindspin is alive and well.  And smiling from ear to ear after seeing Fedor exposed...again!  Ha ha aha ahhahaha!!!

  Fedor didn't lose. It was a doctor stoppage. The fight could have gone to the third round and then Fedor could have won the round or even found a way to win - he won the first round according to the judges' scores so if he won the third he would have won. Fedor only had a closed eye. He has fought and went on to the win in harder conditions like when he was knocked almost unconscious by Fujita and went on to win. Furthermore, Silva outweighted Fedor by 55 lbs!!!! That is the difference between Machida and BJ Penn! So if Machida or Shogun went on to beat BJ Penn, that would make them better fighters? C'mon dude. At the same bodyweight Fedor would have crushed Silva. It's obvious that Silva's huge strength and also reach advantage is what made him win the second round. You won't give Fedor any credit because you don't like the dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Geo on February 14, 2011, 03:01:37 PM
 Fedor didn't lose. It was a doctor stoppage. The fight could have gone to the third round and then Fedor could have won the round or even found a way to win - he won the first round according to the judges' scores so if he won the third he would have won. Fedor only had a closed eye.

to be honest I thought I saw signs of Silva starting to gas at the end of the second, but then again there was no argument from the Fedors corner when they stopped it...

I've seen worse thumpings that were allowed to continue for another round, but I'm thinking the doctor saw something in Fedors behavior between rounds that had him stopping it...

with an eye like that it's up to the fighter to convince the ref to let it go another round.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: K-1 on February 14, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
to be honest I thought I saw signs of Silva starting to gas at the end of the second, but then again there was no argument from the Fedors corner when they stopped it...

I've seen worse thumpings that were allowed to continue for another round, but I'm thinking the doctor saw something in Fedors behavior between rounds that had him stopping it...

with an eye like that it's up to the fighter to convince the ref to let it go another round.

I agree. See GSP vs Koscheck II ...an eye don't get no worse than that. Broken orbital and all. That stoppage made me question.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: MindSpin on February 14, 2011, 04:52:48 PM
  Fedor didn't lose. It was a doctor stoppage. The fight could have gone to the third round and then Fedor could have won the round or even found a way to win - he won the first round according to the judges' scores so if he won the third he would have won. Fedor only had a closed eye. He has fought and went on to the win in harder conditions like when he was knocked almost unconscious by Fujita and went on to win. Furthermore, Silva outweighted Fedor by 55 lbs!!!! That is the difference between Machida and BJ Penn! So if Machida or Shogun went on to beat BJ Penn, that would make them better fighters? C'mon dude. At the same bodyweight Fedor would have crushed Silva. It's obvious that Silva's huge strength and also reach advantage is what made him win the second round. You won't give Fedor any credit because you don't like the dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Excuses excuses.  If he's outweighed by so much, what the fuck is he doing fighting at heavyweight?  Fat boy should go on a diet and make 205 ::)



Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 14, 2011, 05:25:33 PM
Excuses excuses.  If he's outweighed by so much, what the fuck is he doing fighting at heavyweight?  Fat boy should go on a diet and make 205 ::)





Because hes a fucking real man! Lets see Anderson Silva fight some heavyweights!!
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 14, 2011, 05:54:06 PM
Excuses excuses.  If he's outweighed by so much, what the fuck is he doing fighting at heavyweight?  Fat boy should go on a diet and make 205.





  Excuses my fucking ass. It goes to show how great Fedor is that, even past his prime, he can hold his own against a fighter who is a lean 55 lbs heavier than he is. He even won the first round! and Fedor wasn't KOd or submitted. It was stopped by the doctor arbitrarilly. Fedor could go on to win the third round and take the fight even though he was outweighted by 55 lbs. Exposed? Hardly. This is like saying that GSP would be exposed by Pat Berry if they fought and Berry, a lesser heavyweight, had defeated GSP. You obviously don't give a shit that Silva had a massive physics advantage over Fedor in this fight and yet Fedor was still able to hold his own. He won the first round and was still completely conscious at the end of the second round with only a closed left eye. C'mon...give Fedor a fucking break. This fight was far from a flat out defeat.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 14, 2011, 06:00:00 PM
It's all they can go to....futile accusations, dick & ball talk and name calling.  It still doesn't change anything. Fedor was exposed....again!  lol

Exposed is getting grazed by a punch by a guy you can't take down and then mentally folding and throwing yourself on the ground and going fetal, or turning your back and running away or doing a spin a roonie whilst running away.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: big L dawg on February 14, 2011, 06:53:58 PM
this thread reminds me why I stopped posting in the MMA forum of getbig....
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: 20inch calves on February 15, 2011, 12:29:56 AM
Rogers will KO everyone and win the tourney.

you are out of your mind. he won't even make it past barnett
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 15, 2011, 05:42:01 AM
this thread reminds me why I stopped posting in the MMA forum of getbig....
qft
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 06:50:20 AM
Exposed is getting grazed by a punch by a guy you can't take down and then mentally folding and throwing yourself on the ground and going fetal, or turning your back and running away or doing a spin a roonie whilst running away.

A 15 year veteran getting caught in a JJ 101 choke, followed by an ass whooping by a guy who was a 5-1 underdog is pretty much as exposed as a guy can get.  Fedor knows he's been exposed. Why do you think he's putting his tail between his legs and retiring?

Brock took a couple of ass-whooping's, has way more money than Ferdor, and still got back on the horse. Brock doesn't need to fight.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 15, 2011, 06:54:26 AM
Exposed is getting grazed by a punch by a guy you can't take down and then mentally folding and throwing yourself on the ground and going fetal, or turning your back and running away or doing a spin a roonie whilst running away.

At least Lesnar isn't throwing in the towel and retiring.  And let us not forget that Lesnar was taking that beating from the best HW mma fighter on the planet.  AND that Cain did it while being very much lighter in weight than Lesnar (that one is for you Suck).



Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on February 15, 2011, 08:04:26 AM
At least Lesnar isn't throwing in the towel and retiring.  And let us not forget that Lesnar was taking that beating from the best HW mma fighter on the planet.  AND that Cain did it while being very much lighter in weight than Lesnar (that one is for you Suck).

That's funny that you know who im talking about without me even having to mention a name, and he has done it in two consecutive fights not just against Cain.  Sir Sebastian Rutten said it best in his interview, "that's horrible, either he is not allowed to get hit in training, or he has no talent whatsoever". 
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 08:33:10 AM
That's funny that you know who im talking about without me even having to mention a name, and he has done it in two consecutive fights not just against Cain.  Sir Sebastian Rutten said it best in his interview, "that's horrible, either he is not allowed to get hit in training, or he has no talent whatsoever". 


Why do you keep bringing up Lesnar anyways?  Cain is rightfully ranked #1HW in the world.  I could care less about Fedor these days.  I like the guy, but I'm glad he will no longer be able to hold that #1 spot hostage by fighting 2nd tier HW's at best.

Fedor screwed himself of legendary status by getting demolished by cans. Greed/Easy paydays got the best of him and I really doubt he cares.

Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 15, 2011, 08:33:24 AM
That's funny that you know who im talking about without me even having to mention a name, and he has done it in two consecutive fights not just against Cain.  Sir Sebastian Rutten said it best in his interview, "that's horrible, either he is not allowed to get hit in training, or he has no talent whatsoever". 


I know who you're talking about cause you've gone on record here many times re Lesnar and his fight with Cain.

Good argument though!   ::)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 09:12:35 AM
A 15 year veteran getting caught in a JJ 101 choke, followed by an ass whooping by a guy who was a 5-1 underdog is pretty much as exposed as a guy can get.  Fedor knows he's been exposed. Why do you think he's putting his tail between his legs and retiring?

Brock took a couple of ass-whooping's, has way more money than Ferdor, and still got back on the horse. Brock doesn't need to fight.

  I have already conceded that Fedor made a mistake jumping into Werdum's guard, but getting caught was inevitable. Even Rickson Gracie, who is a 7th degree black belt in BJJ, has been caught and submitted. It happens to everyone in the guard of a BJJ master, even to BJJ masters.

  As for Silva, you wouldn't be disrespecting GSP if he fought a shit heayweight like Check Congo and got demolished. You would be pointing out the huge size difference as the reason why GSP lost and that you can't beat physics. But when the same happens to Fedor, it is "excuses" and "he got beaten by a guy with a 5-1 record". Never mind that the guy was 55 lbs heavier and that Fedor won the first round, and that Fedor didn't lose because he was knocked out but because the doctor stopped the fight. This was far from an embarassing defeat. Fedor held his own. Who knows what would have happened if the fight went to the third round? Fedor has come back from even worse situations than that.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Fury on February 15, 2011, 09:17:26 AM
Mindspin has spent the better part of the last 48 hours talking about Fedor on at least 3 different accounts. How many posts is he coming up on now? Has to be close to 500. This guy's obsession with Fedor is only rivaled by Swede's cocklust for Chestnar. As if anyone gives a shit about the opinion of some 40-something-year old TUF fanboy who thinks street fights have a code of honor and unwritten rules.  :-X

The fact that even the best professionals regard Fedor as the GOAT must destroy you inside. It's alright, though. A few glasses of Dana's spunkjuice should clear that up.  :D

Exposed is getting grazed by a punch by a guy you can't take down and then mentally folding and throwing yourself on the ground and going fetal, or turning your back and running away or doing a spin a roonie whilst running away.

Hahaha! You're going to put them on suicide watch talking about their hero like that. After all, according to StoolPSHR and co., Cock Chestnar is the greatest fighter of all time.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 15, 2011, 09:32:07 AM
At least Lesnar isn't throwing in the towel and retiring.  And let us not forget that Lesnar was taking that beating from the best HW mma fighter on the planet.  AND that Cain did it while being very much lighter in weight than Lesnar (that one is for you Suck).





Because Lensar has how many fights? 5 or 6?? HAHAHAHA!!! Fedor retiring because hes old and obviously half the fighter he was. Fuck your stupid lol. And Lesnar who? The guy who was exposed by Mir and Cain???
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: kevcat on February 15, 2011, 10:00:38 AM
Im a huge Fedor fan, and respect the guy and his achievements alot BUT people need to stop going on about how he was outsized like its some sort of good reason for losing.Hes fought taller opponents and heavier in Pride and destroyed them.The simple fact is Fedor either has lost what he had or the talent im modern MMA is better.The size wasnt a factor against Hong Man Choi.He was taken down and mounted the same as Bigfoot done to him but did he lie there and take a beating? No.He got his way out of it and armbarred Choi and won.He simply faced a better opponent on the day and thats what the discussion should be about.
Do i think this would have happened 5 years ago? probably not.The speed difference and the killer instinct Fedor once displayed has certainly gone, but the fact is he lost.There should be no excuses :)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 15, 2011, 10:23:17 AM
Im a huge Fedor fan, and respect the guy and his achievements alot BUT people need to stop going on about how he was outsized like its some sort of good reason for losing.Hes fought taller opponents and heavier in Pride and destroyed them.The simple fact is Fedor either has lost what he had or the talent im modern MMA is better.The size wasnt a factor against Hong Man Choi.He was taken down and mounted the same as Bigfoot done to him but did he lie there and take a beating? No.He got his way out of it and armbarred Choi and won.He simply faced a better opponent on the day and thats what the discussion should be about.
Do i think this would have happened 5 years ago? probably not.The speed difference and the killer instinct Fedor once displayed has certainly gone, but the fact is he lost.There should be no excuses :)

I think its a mixture of both. Fedors skills have obviously deteriorated over the last few years from inactivity, and I think the fighters are definitely getting better too. Big Foot Silva is a well rounded tough guy and Fedor just cant handle an opponent like that in his current state. And your right the Fedor of 2004 was a completely different animal. He was too fast, too strong and won alot of fights due to his insanely hard punches, which he no longer has from breaking his knuckles so much.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 15, 2011, 10:30:18 AM
Why do you keep bringing up Lesnar anyways?  Cain is rightfully ranked #1HW in the world.  I could care less about Fedor these days.  I like the guy, but I'm glad he will no longer be able to hold that #1 spot hostage by fighting 2nd tier HW's at best.

Fedor screwed himself of legendary status by getting demolished by cans. Greed/Easy paydays got the best of him and I really doubt he cares.

you don't care about shane carwin, if you did his name would be in your sig ::)

fedor has legendary status that every other fighter can only dream of obtaining, could you possibly be any more of a dana white cock sucker ::) ::)

now will you or your gimmick "evolver" answer whether trevor berbick is a better boxer than muhammad ali?

E
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 11:28:53 AM
 I have already conceded that Fedor made a mistake jumping into Werdum's guard, but getting caught was inevitable. Even Rickson Gracie, who is a 7th degree black belt in BJJ, has been caught and submitted. It happens to everyone in the guard of a BJJ master, even to BJJ masters.

  As for Silva, you wouldn't be disrespecting GSP if he fought a shit heayweight like Check Congo and got demolished. You would be pointing out the huge size difference as the reason why GSP lost and that you can't beat physics. But when the same happens to Fedor, it is "excuses" and "he got beaten by a guy with a 5-1 record". Never mind that the guy was 55 lbs heavier and that Fedor won the first round, and that Fedor didn't lose because he was knocked out but because the doctor stopped the fight. This was far from an embarassing defeat. Fedor held his own. Who knows what would have happened if the fight went to the third round? Fedor has come back from even worse situations than that.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

GSP fights at WW. (170lbs) and *may* move up to Middleweight(185lbs)

Why in the world would GSP be fighting Kongo? Did Kongo get the AIDS or something?

There are weight classes for a reason.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
Mindspin has spent the better part of the last 48 hours talking about Fedor on at least 3 different accounts. How many posts is he coming up on now? Has to be close to 500. This guy's obsession with Fedor is only rivaled by Swede's cocklust for Chestnar. As if anyone gives a shit about the opinion of some 40-something-year old TUF fanboy who thinks street fights have a code of honor and unwritten rules.  :-X

The fact that even the best professionals regard Fedor as the GOAT must destroy you inside. It's alright, though. A few glasses of Dana's spunkjuice should clear that up.  :D

Hahaha! You're going to put them on suicide watch talking about their hero like that. After all, according to StoolPSHR and co., Cock Chestnar is the greatest fighter of all time.


Call Fedor what you want...He can no longer hold the #1 HW ranking hostage. I could care less about anything else the guy does at this point.


Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 15, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
Call Fedor what you want...He can no longer hold the #1 HW ranking hostage. I could care less about anything else the guy does at this point.




then change your sig

until you do, he owns your simple mind

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Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 11:37:42 AM
you don't care about shane carwin, if you did his name would be in your sig ::)

fedor has legendary status that every other fighter can only dream of obtaining, could you possibly be any more of a dana white cock sucker ::) ::)

now will you or your gimmick "evolver" answer whether trevor berbick is a better boxer than muhammad ali?

E

Why would I have Carwin's name in my sig? WTF?

Fedor may have legendary status for one reason or another...I could care less. There's always room to debate on that topic.

I'm just happy Fedor was exposed and he can no longer hold the #1 ranking hostage.  If he had stepped up and fought the best, I would be giving him much more credit.  He lost to a 5-1 underdog, by a brutal, embarrassing, beatdown.  He may not recover emotionally.

I was right all along and the Fedor is behind us. New topic anyone?

Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: Earl1972 on February 15, 2011, 11:43:36 AM
Why would I have Carwin's name in my sig? WTF?

Fedor may have legendary status for one reason or another...I could care less. There's always room to debate on that topic.

I'm just happy Fedor was exposed and he can no longer hold the #1 ranking hostage.  If he had stepped up and fought the best, I would be giving him much more credit.  He lost to a 5-1 underdog, by a brutal, embarrassing, beatdown.  He may not recover emotionally.

I was right all along and the Fedor is behind us. New topic anyone?



exactly why would you, carwin doesn't own your mind like fedor does

there is no room to debate you moron, you couldn't possibly be that dumb could you ???

name the fighters with better resumes

i've been waiting on that for at least a year ::)

E

Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 12:15:53 PM
exactly why would you, carwin doesn't own your mind like fedor does

there is no room to debate you moron, you couldn't possibly be that dumb could you ???

name the fighters with better resumes

i've been waiting on that for at least a year ::)

E




I think you have me confused....I could care less what Fedor's resume looks like or if anyone wants to call him a legend or whatever name they so choose.

I disliked the fact that Fedor was ranked #1 at one time and he was not fighting the best.  Currently, he is so far from being ranked #1, I could care less.

I like Fedor, but he was milking these past few years and it bit him in the ass with two consecutive losses to 2nd tier HW's.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 15, 2011, 12:29:52 PM
Why would I have Carwin's name in my sig? WTF?

Fedor may have legendary status for one reason or another...I could care less. There's always room to debate on that topic.

I'm just happy Fedor was exposed and he can no longer hold the #1 ranking hostage.  If he had stepped up and fought the best, I would be giving him much more credit.  He lost to a 5-1 underdog, by a brutal, embarrassing, beatdown.  He may not recover emotionally.

I was right all along and the Fedor is behind us. New topic anyone?



Fedor didnt even have the number 1 spot, 5-2 Brock Lesnar did (lol!). So whats the problem?
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 01:00:31 PM
GSP fights at WW. (170lbs) and *may* move up to Middleweight(185lbs)

Why in the world would GSP be fighting Kongo? Did Kongo get the AIDS or something?

There are weight classes for a reason.

  Wow, you are dumb. My point exactly, moron. The weight difference between Silva and Fedor is the same between GSP and a heavyweight(55 lbs). So if GSP fought an inferior heavyweight and lost to him, according to you he would have been "exposed". See how dumb you sound now?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
  Wow, you are dumb. My point exactly, moron. The weight difference between Silva and Fedor is the same between GSP and a heavyweight(55 lbs). So if GSP fought an inferior heavyweight and lost to him, according to you he would have been "exposed". See how dumb you sound now?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Fedor CHOOSES to fight at HW and ACCEPTED the fight with Silva.

End of discussion on you has-been HW.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 01:06:07 PM
Fedor CHOOSES to fight at HW and ACCEPTED the fight with Silva.

End of discussion on you has-been HW.

  Doesen't change the fact that if GSP fought an inferior heavyweight who outweighted him by 55 lbs and got demolished, you would point out that he lost due to the size difference and not because the heayweight was better. You are a complete and utter hypocrite.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
  Doesen't change the fact that if GSP fought an inferior heavyweight who outweighted him by 55 lbs and got demolished, you would point out that he lost due to the size difference and not because the heayweight was better. You are a complete and utter hypocrite.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

No athletic commission would ever sanction that GSP fight you are referring to.  GSP doesn't even get near the HW requirement.

Let's stop the fantasy comparisons here. 

Werdum weighs about the same as Fedor and he manhandled Fedor. You need a new excuse.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 01:37:34 PM
No athletic commission would ever sanction that GSP fight you are referring to.  GSP doesn't even get near the HW requirement.

Let's stop the fantasy comparisons here. 

Werdum weighs about the same as Fedor and he manhandled Fedor. You need a new excuse.

  That's because when it comes to grappling weight and strength don't really matter. This comparison sucks because getting caught in a submission and being overwhelmed by sheer power are two different things.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 01:52:59 PM
  That's because when it comes to grappling weight and strength don't really matter. This comparison sucks because getting caught in a submission and being overwhelmed by sheer power are two different things.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Are you admitting that Fedor was stupid or misled about signing/agreeing on the Silva fight?
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
Are you admitting that Fedor was stupid or misled about signing/agreeing on the Silva fight?

  He was brave but foolish taking on a man who outweighted him by 3 weight classes. But he had done it so many times before, beating huge odds, that I can understand why he thought he could do it again. But he got older, and is much slower and less effective at making decisions in the ring or cage. He can still beat any heavyweight his size, but he can't compete anymore against guys who weight over 260 lbs with athletic built.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 06:12:41 PM
  He was brave but foolish taking on a man who outweighted him by 3 weight classes. But he had done it so many times before, beating huge odds, that I can understand why he thought he could do it again. But he got older, and is much slower and less effective at making decisions in the ring or cage. He can still beat any heavyweight his size, but he can't compete anymore against guys who weight over 260 lbs with athletic built.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Sounds to me he should retire or move down to LHW.  Not too many credible opponents at HW weighting what Fedor weighs.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 06:56:26 PM
Sounds to me he should retire or move down to LHW.  Not too many credible opponents at HW weighting what Fedor weighs.

  Ugh, he did. He could be dominant for over 5 years more as a light-heavy. But the only division that has the prestige Fedor seeks is the heavyweight. That is why he retired.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 07:39:12 PM
  Ugh, he did. He could be dominant for over 5 years more as a light-heavy. But the only division that has the prestige Fedor seeks is the heavyweight. That is why he retired.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Uh....Ok. You are really talking circles here.

Fedor has not confirmed anything yet.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 15, 2011, 08:26:25 PM
Uh....Ok. You are really talking circles here.

Fedor has not confirmed anything yet.

  He said it was the last time, and God's will...since he is a theist, he wouldn't invoke the name of God in vain.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: BDsauce on February 15, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
this thread reminds me why I stopped posting in the MMA forum of getbig....

This
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 10:17:14 PM
  He said it was the last time, and God's will...since he is a theist, he wouldn't invoke the name of God in vain.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

WRONG....He said he is UNDECIDED and his career is in God's hands. Do you ever visit other MMA sites? You should know this.
I will accept your apology, once it's rightfully offered to me.

"In regards to continuation of my career, we will decide very soon. It's in God's hands."

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/302986/Fedor-I-wanted-to-continue-the-fight-My-career-is-now-in-Gods-hands/ (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/302986/Fedor-I-wanted-to-continue-the-fight-My-career-is-now-in-Gods-hands/)
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 15, 2011, 10:28:26 PM
This

Then don't visit this thread.

Seriously, these Fedor debates are coming to an end now that he has been exposed TWICE.
Barnett is the only other guy that some of these clowns fail to realize is NOTHING in today's HW division.
Rodgers is a mediocre HW that will embarrass Barnett.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 16, 2011, 02:31:01 AM
WRONG....He said he is UNDECIDED and his career is in God's hands. Do you ever visit other MMA sites? You should know this.
I will accept your apology, once it's rightfully offered to me.

"In regards to continuation of my career, we will decide very soon. It's in God's hands."

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/302986/Fedor-I-wanted-to-continue-the-fight-My-career-is-now-in-Gods-hands/ (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/302986/Fedor-I-wanted-to-continue-the-fight-My-career-is-now-in-Gods-hands/)

  Oh, really? Here is the exact quote straight from his mouth as he stood onstage:

  "It is high time. I had a beautiful career and I am thankful to all my fans who supported me all these years. Thank you very much and God bless you all."

  Why did he use the past tense, dumbass? Learn how to read your fucking language. I don't even have English as my first language and I can read it better than you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 16, 2011, 06:51:14 AM
 Oh, really? Here is the exact quote straight from his mouth as he stood onstage:

  "It is high time. I had a beautiful career and I am thankful to all my fans who supported me all these years. Thank you very much and God bless you all."

  Why did he use the past tense, dumbass? Learn how to read your fucking language. I don't even have English as my first language and I can read it better than you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Apparently, you didn't read the link I posted.  Try again, this was his most recent statement and I changed nothing.  It was from his verified Twitter.

Again, I will accept your much needed apology when it's rightfully presented.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 16, 2011, 06:56:31 AM

Apparently, you didn't read the link I posted.  Try again, this was his most recent statement and I changed nothing.  It was from his verified Twitter.

Again, I will accept your much needed apology when it's rightfully presented.

Suck= owned.

As usual.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 16, 2011, 08:56:43 AM
Sounds to me he should retire or move down to LHW.  Not too many credible opponents at HW weighting what Fedor weighs.

He prefers to have the disadvantage in his fights, unlike your 2 heros who always want the advantage in their fights and still get submitted or punched out. As alot of pro fighters say, cutting weight is for pussies. 
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 16, 2011, 09:12:39 AM
He prefers to have the disadvantage in his fights, unlike your 2 heros who always want the advantage in their fights and still get submitted or punched out. As alot of pro fighters say, cutting weight is for pussies. 

Who are my heroes?

Cutting weight is a part of combat sports. If you can't hang with the size in your division, then drop weight classes. Happens all the time and doesn't make someone a pussy.  You act like cutting weight doesn't have disadvantages.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 16, 2011, 09:43:24 AM
Who are my heroes?

Cutting weight is a part of combat sports. If you can't hang with the size in your division, then drop weight classes. Happens all the time and doesn't make someone a pussy.  You act like cutting weight doesn't have disadvantages.

Haha if you can't hang with the big boys, go pick on the little guys! lol!
I was referring to your UFC heros in Anderson Silva and GSP btw.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 16, 2011, 09:54:23 AM
Then don't visit this thread.

Seriously, these Fedor debates are coming to an end now that he has been exposed TWICE.
Barnett is the only other guy that some of these clowns fail to realize is NOTHING in today's HW division.
Rodgers is a mediocre HW that will embarrass Barnett.


In my eyes Fedor will always be a champ- BJ Penn.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: WeightPSHR on February 16, 2011, 11:35:19 AM
Haha if you can't hang with the big boys, go pick on the little guys! lol!
I was referring to your UFC heros in Anderson Silva and GSP btw.

FYI...Vitor Belfort cut weight to fight Anderson Silva.

Koscheck cut weight to fight GSP.

What is your point here?
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 16, 2011, 11:42:14 AM
FYI...Vitor Belfort cut weight to fight Anderson Silva.

Koscheck cut weight to fight GSP.

What is your point here?

Weight.  It's called "grasping at straws".
 ;D
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: geneticmarvel on February 17, 2011, 04:06:02 PM
FYI...Vitor Belfort cut weight to fight Anderson Silva.

Koscheck cut weight to fight GSP.

What is your point here?

You already know what i'm talking about. Big frame/taller fighters cutting down to fight smaller framed fighters.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 18, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
Suck= owned.

As usual.

   This coming from the guy who got all of his predictions on MMA wrong.

   Coltrane = imbecile

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 19, 2011, 02:30:02 PM
   This coming from the guy who got all of his predictions on MMA wrong.

   Coltrane = imbecile

SUCKMYMUSCLE
All of them Victor?  We've made like 30 or so predictions dumbass...many of which I picked correct. 
One thing is 100 % sure and that is that you always seem to own yourself.
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 19, 2011, 03:21:53 PM
All of them Victor?  We've made like 30 or so predictions dumbass...many of which I picked correct. 
One thing is 100 % sure and that is that you always seem to own yourself.


  Go ahead and pick whatever area of debate you want and let's go at it. I am so confident that I will destroy you that I will even allow you to pick the topic you want to argue about. :) Just read through my non-MMA posts and see what you're up against. ;) You imbecile.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 19, 2011, 07:41:46 PM
 Go ahead and pick whatever area of debate you want and let's go at it. I am so confident that I will destroy you that I will even allow you to pick the topic you want to argue about. :) Just read through my non-MMA posts and see what you're up against. ;) You imbecile.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Lol.  The " area" we just debated was about whether or not I made ALL incorrect picks, of which I did not.  You lost that one Dingbat.  Do I need to own you anymore on here, Victor?



Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 21, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
Lol.  The " area" we just debated was about whether or not I made ALL incorrect picks, of which I did not.  You lost that one Dingbat.  Do I need to own you anymore on here, Victor?





  You lost all main cards. That's all that matters. Out of 20 MMA cards you got the main event wrong 18 times or so. The only one you own here is yourself. You have no credibility and you are a fool.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 21, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
  You lost all main cards. That's all that matters. Out of 20 MMA cards you got the main event wrong 18 times or so. The only one you own here is yourself. You have no credibility and you are a fool.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
The only owning going on is me owning you.  What moron would go thru and waste the time counting someone else's record on something so unimportant.   You,  sir,  are owned.

PS:  I have some odd yard work jobs coming up this spring and could use some free labor.  Interested?
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: kevcat on February 22, 2011, 07:21:58 AM
The only owning going on is me owning you.  What moron would go thru and waste the time counting someone else's record on something so unimportant.   You,  sir,  are owned.

PS:  I have some odd yard work jobs coming up this spring and could use some free labor.  Interested?

Wow, lets argue about owning someone on the internet.Seriously get a life
Title: Re: Fedor....Time to hang em' up.
Post by: coltrane on February 22, 2011, 08:50:50 AM
Wow, lets argue about owning someone on the internet.Seriously get a life

And someone that goes thru countless posts trying to count prediction records of someone else HAS a life?  Please.

You need to be directing your comments to suckmymuscle.  Read the entire thread.