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Title: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 03:46:16 PM
"Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion, the early priests caused the statue of a man to be placed in the sanctuary of the temple. This human figure symbolized the Divine Power in all its intricate manifestations. Thus the priests of antiquity accepted man as their textbook, and through the study of him learned to understand the greater and more abstruse mysteries of the celestial scheme of which they were a part. It is not improbable that this mysterious figure standing over the primitive altars was made in the nature of a manikin and, like certain emblematic hands in the Mystery schools, was covered with either carved or painted hieroglyphs. The statue may have opened, thus showing the relative positions of the organs, bones, muscles, nerves, and other parts. After ages of research, the manikin became a mass of intricate hieroglyphs and symbolic figures. Every part had its secret meaning. The measurements formed a basic standard by means of which it was possible to measure all parts of cosmos. It was a glorious composite emblem of all the knowledge possessed by the sages and hierophants."

maybe one of the most masteful books of all time writtin in 1920. tell me if the above stuff you read aint cool as fuck



























For once, a book which really lives up to its title. Hall self-published this massive tome in 1928, consisting of about 200 legal-sized pages in 8 point type; it is literally his magnum opus. Each of the nearly 50 chapters is so dense with information that it is the equivalent of an entire short book. If you read this book in its entirety you will be in a good position to dive into subjects such as the Qabbala, Alchemy, Tarot, Ceremonial Magic, Neo-Platonic Philosophy, Mystery Religions, and the theory of Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry. Although there are some questionable and controversial parts of the book, such as the outdated material on Islam, the portion on the Bacon-Shakespeare hypothesis, and Hall's conspiracy theory of history as driven by an elite cabal of roving immortals, they are far out-weighed by the comprehensive information here on other subjects.

For many years this book was only available in a large format edition which was hard to obtain and very expensive. However, an affordable paperback version has finally been released (see sidebar).

PRODUCTION NOTES: I worked on this huge project episodically from 2001 to June 2004. This because of the poor OCR quality, which was due to the miniscule type and large blocks of italics; this necessitated retyping many parts of the text manually. To give an idea of how massive this project was, the proof file for this is 2 megabytes, about 8 times the size of a normal 200 page book. The raw graphics files are 63 megabytes, which I've processed down to about 11 megabytes. The thumbnails alone are 1 megabyte, which is about my graphics budget for a regular book.

While the book itself is not covered by copyright in the US due to lack of formal renewal, many of the large color illustrations that front each chapter in the paper edition did have registrations and renewals entered for them. So these are omitted from this etext. However, all of the black and white illustrations are included here. Note that many of the graphics had to be quite large because of the amount of detail, so I have thumbnailed every image in the book. In the book all of the illustration captions are in italics; I have reversed this in the etext for legibility.



http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/index.htm
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 03:51:35 PM
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Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
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great post you have my undivided attention :) just think bench all i can teach you or you teach me
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Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:23:42 PM
i wonder what i can learn from other posters like bench  ???
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: no one on March 06, 2011, 04:26:10 PM

ok i bust your balls all the time, so this time im going to try to have a normal conversation with you- sepecailly after you got me to laugh at the 'olive oil binge' crack.

ok, so who is this guy- i followed the link to the author but have never heard of him. have any background on him i can look at? is he like a stitchen or a grahamn hancock? how do you know whes not just some crackpot writing up something that reads like fiction?
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Rami on March 06, 2011, 04:27:45 PM
I wish I could help Bench somehow,



chamomile tea and some ginger, damn... I don't know.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:30:23 PM
I wish I could help Bench somehow,



chamomile tea and some ginger, damn... I don't know.

hell who you kiddin i want bench to help ME, he seems to have all the answers just have a look..

benchs stats:

benchs 400+
sleeps 2hours
runs, liftweights constantly

tell me if that isnt a true failcan ???
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Rami on March 06, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
hell who you kiddin i want bench to help ME, he seems to have all the answers just have a look..

benchs stats:

benchs 400+
sleeps 2hours
runs, liftweights constantly

tell me if that isnt a true failcan ???

true

 bench isn't giving away much factual knowledge that have brought him to those heights


we are all ears!
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:33:51 PM
ok i bust your balls all the time, so this time im going to try to have a normal conversation with you- sepecailly after you got me to laugh at the 'olive oil binge' crack.

ok, so who is this guy- i followed the link to the author but have never heard of him. have any background on him i can look at? is he like a stitchen or a grahamn hancock? how do you know whes not just some crackpot writing up something that reads like fiction?

im reading this chapter "the human body in symbolism" http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta17.htm

what is written makes sense to me

i agree with you on sitchen, he is just ONE guy who has a theory and has a very questionable intentions and his colleagues in that feild seem to lack substantial amounts of reverence for him
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
true

 bench isn't giving away much factual knowledge that have brought him to those heights


we are all ears!
you havent tried asking yet....

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:38:18 PM
true

 bench isn't giving away much factual knowledge that have brought him to those heights


we are all ears!

true but 'bench' is just IS just like god hiding behind the curtains, we just assume he IS what he says he is and we can only hope for answers and pictures of his existance  :D

Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 06, 2011, 04:39:42 PM
i just fucked daddywaddy's mom  :D
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:52:47 PM
bench?
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 04:55:50 PM
The initiates of old warned their disciples that an image is not a reality but merely the objectification of a subjective idea.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 04:57:26 PM
The initiates of old warned their disciples that an image is not a reality but merely the objectification of a subjective idea.
but what did it say about kung fu?



bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:00:36 PM
Ask Bench about firearms.
The man is a certified killing machine.  ;D
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 05:10:52 PM
Ask Bench about firearms.
The man is a certified killing machine.  ;D

wow but im not really impressed with materialsm ,

i mean i can buy a gun too like so what
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 05:15:00 PM
u gotta ask yourself whats more fun

guns, cars?

or

a great story or potential truth?

some are born materialists seemingly for that is the side they reveal most
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:17:34 PM
wow but im not really impressed with materialsm ,

i mean i can buy a gun too like so what
Youre missing the point.
To say, I can buy a gun but so what, is like saying anyone can be a pro bodybuilder, so what.
There is a lot to firearms.
And when the end of the world comes, and mayhem and anarchy ensues, youre sure gonna wish you new a thing or two about firearms. So Bench's info COULD potentially be invaluable.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:20:15 PM
wow but im not really impressed with materialsm ,

i mean i can buy a gun too like so what
its not about having them, or using them.....just like the fast cars...its not about the car...

i simply enjoy working on them...guns have always been a part of my life, and job....but the fact is i just enjoy working on them, and building them.....working with my hands is my favorite thing to do on this planet....thats one of the main reasons why i built a guest house in my garage..just incase i got tired, or needed a break i wouldnt have to leave the shop..

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 05:21:21 PM
Youre missing the point.
To say, I can buy a gun but so what, is like saying anyone can be a pro bodybuilder, so what.
There is a lot to firearms.
And when the end of the world comes, and mayhem and anarchy ensues, youre sure gonna wish you new a thing or two about firearms. So Bench's info COULD potentially be invaluable.  ;D ;D

yah bro real deep, a gun is a gun
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:22:05 PM
yah bro real deep, a gun is a gun

no...just no..

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
yah bro real deep, a gun is a gun
Epic fail.
As Bench has said, its about the engineering behind them, and the love of working on mechanical things and creating with your hands.
Same reason Im going to school at SAM (Race engines), its about the love of building/creating.
So just cause youre current obsession is all things abstract/creationist/however you want to describe it, some of us love building things.
Firearms are no different, a gun is not a gun, and to think so, youre just as close minded as the people you rail against.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
Epic fail.
As Bench has said, its about the engineering behind them, and the love of working on mechanical things and creating with your hands.
Same reason Im going to school at SAM (Race engines), its about the love of building/creating.
So just cause youre current obsession is all things abstract/creationist/however you want to describe it, some of us love building things.
Firearms are no different, a gun is not a gun, and to think so, youre just as close minded as the people you rail against.
houston?

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 05:25:05 PM
yah bro real deep, a gun is a gun

focusing on defense mechanisms show insecurties , what are you so afriad of
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:25:43 PM
focusing on defense mechanisms show insecurties , what are you so afriad of
focusing on religion, and theory shows fear, and regret...

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:25:55 PM
houston?

bench
Indeed.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:27:05 PM
Indeed.
i went there once with a friend to pick up a ford dart block his little brother machined for him..

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:32:44 PM
i went there once with a friend to pick up a ford dart block his little brother machined for him..

bench
Place is awesome.
The owner/primary instructor Judson Massingil is fcking epic. Hes seen/done it all and has some of the funniest stories Ive ever heard.
The knowledge you get there is invaluable, itd take 20+ Years of legit experience to even get half of what you get there, unless you happen to get hired in a high end race shop.
The block turn out ok?
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Rami on March 06, 2011, 05:34:53 PM
focusing on religion, and theory shows fear, and regret...

bench

religion is part of history. you know, what's been written in the name of different religions and factions is stemming from ancient Babylonian and Sumerian tales.

thus within we can find knowledge and truth, albeit some hidden or encoded.  

but just as with folklore, it is not for the faint of heart, an ego will protect itself by belittle, dismiss and rationalize away.


we should all have thirst for knowledge and bravery
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:37:33 PM
Place is awesome.
The owner/primary instructor Judson Massingil is fcking epic. Hes seen/done it all and has some of the funniest stories Ive ever heard.
The knowledge you get there is invaluable, itd take 20+ Years of legit experience to even get half of what you get there, unless you happen to get hired in a high end race shop.
The block turn out ok?

yeah...i forget how much, but he bored it out a bit, and had him install the cam bearing for him....put the rest of it together when i got home....still running strong after 3 years now....single turbo notch running mid 10's all day...the dude will likely have himself buried in that car when he dies..

i went to UTI while i went to college also....i love technical stuff...if i didnt have all the tools and equipment at my disposal now i would still be going to tech schools just to play with shit..

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
religion is part of history. you know, what's been written in the name of different religions and factions is stemming from ancient Babylonian and Sumerian tales.

thus within we can find knowledge and truth, albeit some hidden or encoded.  

but just as with folklore, it is not for the faint of heart, an ego will protect itself by belittle, dismiss and rationalize away.


we should all have thirst for knowledge and bravery
religion=cowardness...not bravery.....if you have to have faith in some mystical being to get through life then you have failed...

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:40:42 PM
yeah...i forget how much, but he bored it out a bit, and had him install the cam bearing for him....put the rest of it together when i got home....still running strong after 3 years now....single turbo notch running mid 10's all day...the dude will likely have himself buried in that car when he dies..

i went to UTI while i went to college also....i love technical stuff...if i didnt have all the tools and equipment at my disposal now i would still be going to tech schools just to play with shit..

bench
Thats awesome. Where in Tx are you at?
Yeah its pretty sweet to work with one of the fastest cars of its kind here at the school (99 Camaro, 430" LSx motor making over 1000hp N/A, was the fastest in the country, but a car just recently went faster, so now we get to hunt for more power) ;D
We got a couple Fox mustang guys at the school, but its mostly dominated by LS guys right now. Few BB Chevy kids coming in though.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 05:41:53 PM
focusing on religion, and theory shows fear, and regret...

bench

its a STORY

stop being so lame all u care about guns and ammo. You come into my threads and other peoples threads advertising your curiousity inderictly by being an ass
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
Thats awesome. Where in Tx are you at?
Yeah its pretty sweet to work with one of the fastest cars of its kind here at the school (99 Camaro, 430" LSx motor making over 1000hp N/A, was the fastest in the country, but a car just recently went faster, so now we get to hunt for more power) ;D
We got a couple Fox mustang guys at the school, but its mostly dominated by LS guys right now. Few BB Chevy kids coming in though.
i am on the coast....within 50 miles of houston...i played the ls game for a long time(have had 6 LS1's)...but recently built a lt1...i now love working on the lt1..the thing isnt as user friendly as the ls...but it has a lot of pontential that people dont give it credit for....i still love working on the ford modulars more than anything...

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:44:48 PM
its a STORY

stop being so lame all u care about guns and ammo. You come into my threads and other peoples threads advertising your curiousity inderictly by being an ass
i didnt even mention anything about firearms until it was brough up...looks like someone is having meth withdrawls..

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:47:42 PM
i am on the coast....within 50 miles of houston...i played the ls game for a long time(have had 6 LS1's)...but recently built a lt1...i now love working on the lt1..the thing isnt as user friendly as the ls...but it has a lot of pontential that people dont give it credit for....i still love working on the ford modulars more than anything...

bench
Haha thats a tough job! Those heads (4v) have that nasty 90* turn at the intake valve, and for some reason Ford decided to make the bore so small.. but that new 5.0 is a nasty piece, the heads on that bitch flow like 300cfm stock. Ford really did something to the mod motor with the new one... It shits all over the old one.
I have seriously seen some quick mods though.
I was a BB Chevy guy, but I picked up a 98 firebird for 900 and bought an LS w/ 6speed from jud and swapped it in. Currently building my 1st LS, 370" iron block with the L92 square port heads.
LT1's are no joke either, people seem to laugh them off, but their basically just an updated SBC, and we all know how fast some of those go....
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: 225for70 on March 06, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
Rami is a Johnny Failcon Gimmick... :'(
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:48:38 PM
its a STORY

stop being so lame all u care about guns and ammo. You come into my threads and other peoples threads advertising your curiousity inderictly by being an ass
question?.....is this show similar to your everyday life?

http://video.adultswim.com/squidbillies/index.html

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:53:19 PM
Haha thats a tough job! Those heads (4v) have that nasty 90* turn at the intake valve, and for some reason Ford decided to make the bore so small.. but that new 5.0 is a nasty piece, the heads on that bitch flow like 300cfm stock. Ford really did something to the mod motor with the new one... It shits all over the old one.
I have seriously seen some quick mods though.
I was a BB Chevy guy, but I picked up a 98 firebird for 900 and bought an LS w/ 6speed from jud and swapped it in. Currently building my 1st LS, 370" iron block with the L92 square port heads.
LT1's are no joke either, people seem to laugh them off, but their basically just an updated SBC, and we all know how fast some of those go....
my LT1 got into the 9's street legal way faster, and easier than any of my ls1's did...i wish i would have played with the lt1's a lot sooner...

ford intends for all of there stuff to be forced induction...look how many different supercharger companies have contracts with ford...they build there stuff so you have to go forced induction...the new 5.0 is badass..i would have got one if i didnt build the lt1 when they were released...2 friends have them...one is in the 10's with bolt ons...the other might run high nines if the pistons dont shit out before he finaly gets to the track..

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Marty Champions on March 06, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
why is bench even bothering with these kinds of threads, or is he just another queer in denial of his love for johnny failcon and Sir Rami Naergr
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: benchmstr on March 06, 2011, 05:55:30 PM
why is bench even bothering with these kinds of threads, or is he just another queer in denial of his love for johnny failcon and Sir Rami Naergr
hows the xbox saga going?

bench
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Shockwave on March 06, 2011, 05:59:00 PM
my LT1 got into the 9's street legal way faster, and easier than any of my ls1's did...i wish i would have played with the lt1's a lot sooner...

ford intends for all of there stuff to be forced induction...look how many different supercharger companies have contracts with ford...they build there stuff so you have to go forced induction...the new 5.0 is badass..i would have got one if i didnt build the lt1 when they were released...2 friends have them...one is in the 10's with bolt ons...the other might run high nines if the pistons dont shit out before he finaly gets to the track..

bench
Thats kickass. Agree about the FI comments. Seems like Ford wanted people to have to go FI with those heads, they were just designed so rediculously.
Anyway, depending on how long it takes me to get this motor, we might wind up running into each other at the track. Be on the lookout for a black v6 firebird (street car) running well faster than it should. Lol. (Not for several months though)
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: no one on March 06, 2011, 09:25:20 PM
im reading this chapter "the human body in symbolism" http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta17.htm

what is written makes sense to me

i agree with you on sitchen, he is just ONE guy who has a theory and has a very questionable intentions and his colleagues in that feild seem to lack substantial amounts of reverence for him

see, i like stichen, cause a lot of what he says makes sense for the part. cant be proven either way but his arguments lend of constructive debate and make you think.

im going to check this out. i'll let you know what i think.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on March 06, 2011, 09:30:38 PM
hell who you kiddin i want bench to help ME, he seems to have all the answers just have a look..

benchs stats:

benchs 400+
sleeps 2hours
runs, liftweights constantly

tell me if that isnt a true failcan ???
Bench is also a

sniper accurate from a mile out

builds cars with 1000 hp+

Owner of multiple rental houses that he rents to corporations.

What have you accomplished with your life, Johnny Failcan?
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Firemuscle on March 06, 2011, 09:31:28 PM
 Yup. Religion has been ruined by dogma, idolatry, monotheistic nonsense and bullshit rules that God has supposedly laid out for us.

 "IF YOU STEAL SOMETHING I WILL SEND YOU TO HELL FOR ETERNITY!"

 "IF YOU DON'T DO EXCEPT CHRIST/MUHAMMED AS YOUR SAVIOR IN SOME HALF-ASS WAY YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!"

 What a bunch of fucking bullshit.

 Islam, Christianity, Catholisism, Judaism. All garbage.
Title: Re: Long before the introduction of idolatry into religion
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on March 06, 2011, 09:41:09 PM
yeah...i forget how much, but he bored it out a bit, and had him install the cam bearing for him....put the rest of it together when i got home....still running strong after 3 years now....single turbo notch running mid 10's all day...the dude will likely have himself buried in that car when he dies..

i went to UTI while i went to college also....i love technical stuff...if i didnt have all the tools and equipment at my disposal now i would still be going to tech schools just to play with shit..

bench

What kind of engineering degree did you get while on a powerlifting scholarship, bench?  You would think they would have given you a scholarship for being an Olympic level marksman instead. 


Meanwhile, Johnny Failcan was failing third grade.