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peolpe are getting back into rock
80s almost back
rap will be relegated to sideshow it was and should be
:)
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Already dead. For some time now.
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peolpe are getting back into rock
80s almost back
rap will be relegated to sideshow it was and should be
:)
So you're going to tell me that Kanye West is not relevant anymore?!?
ACT POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You're about 10 years late with this post.
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By the way magicuser. Most of these threads you are making really suck.
You need to stick with posting porn pictures, that's all you're good at.
When you try to type out words it's not very interesting at all.
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peolpe are getting back into rock
80s almost back
rap will be relegated to sideshow it was and should be
:)
Maybe you are getting back into rock, Reggaeton and other music is coming up...But Drake and Kanye are still beasting out....
people act like Rock is the other alternative---rock wouldn't have gone the way it was hadn't the Hair Bands been allowed, they fucked it all up...
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Yup... I used to be a huge fan of Rap, but reverted to Rock last year because I was sooo sick of today's rap, just disappointing!!!
A friend of mine is a DJ, and started a record label working to bring back the rap of the past.... This is their site, lots of free tracks to listen to and download: http://kitchendip.com/
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Rap is Alive
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Yup... I used to be a huge fan of Rap, but reverted to Rock last year because I was sooo sick of today's rap, just disappointing!!!
A friend of mine is a DJ, and started a record label working to bring back the rap of the past.... This is their site, lots of free tracks to listen to and download: http://kitchendip.com/
When i got sick of it, back in 1999, I started listening to Brazilian music, Afrobeat music, etc...there are alternatives
You can't bring back the hip hop of the past...
It's Soulja Boy's Fault!!!
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When i got sick of it, back in 1999, I started listening to Brazilian music, Afrobeat music, etc...there are alternatives
You can't bring back the hip hop of the past...
It's Soulja Boy's Fault!!!
You seem like a very afro-centric person. Kind of racist, but not in a horrible way, just mildly.
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You seem like a very afro-centric person. Kind of racist, but not in a horrible way, just mildly.
Actually not
Well I grew up listening to old skool R &B, and gospel, my mother would always play gospel music when she picked me up from school and at home, and then when i went to Church. But, from 3rd grade up to Senior yr I played cello. I listen to hip-hop, raggae, R&b, Soca, Salsa, Samba, Bossa Nova, anything you can dance too...you can't really dance to rock music. Well, the old Rock and Roll you could but not from late 70's to today's subgenres. I listen to jazz and classical music as well, and I am thinking about getting back into playing cello, except this time adapting R&B songs to cello...
What I said was that there are alternative, I was really speaking for myself, most black folk only think that there hip hop and RNB, but once you discover the derth of Afro-influenced or based music, it's overwhelming
It's like people in the 70's, when you told them you study martial arts, they only thought of Karate---not knowing that there is shit load more...
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Already dead. For some time now.
This
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peolpe are getting back into rock
80s almost back
rap will be relegated to sideshow it was and should be
:)
Your mom is dying.
hth.
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thank god its dying,it is the most horrible sounding shit ever and makes people in society act and look like a bunch of fools.
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thank god its dying,it is the most horrible sounding shit ever and makes people in society act and look like a bunch of fools.
Same was said about Rock.
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thank god its dying,it is the most horrible sounding shit ever and makes people in society act and look like a bunch of fools.
x2 rap is an embarrasment to mankind
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been dead for 10-15 years......
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x2 rap is an embarrasment to mankind
Same was said about Rock, it wasn't called "The Devil's Music" for nothing ;D
Face it, Rock faded away because it got away from it's roots AND because it wasn't as commerically viable as Hip Hop---Rock was for Baby Boomers, Hip Hop is Gen X and Y---when Hip Hop runs it's course it will another genre, probably reggaeton, due to the large Latino population.
Odd how Jazz and R&B are still stables---that's what you call true staying power
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Same was said about Rock, it wasn't called "The Devil's Music" for nothing ;D
Face it, Rock faded away because it got away from it's roots AND because it wasn't as commerically viable as Hip Hop---Rock was for Baby Boomers, Hip Hop is Gen X and Y---when Hip Hop runs it's course it will another genre, probably reggaeton, due to the large Latino population.
Odd how Jazz and R&B are still stables---that's what you call true staying power
Actually back in my "bangin' days" ;D there was a clear distinction between Rap and Hip-Hop. Hip-hop being the dance, commercial stuff and "rap" being the more serious tone of Eric B and Rakim, BDP, Public Enemy, NWO, etc... I can remember when it was an insult for a rapper to be considered hip-hop (Fresh Prince, Young MC, etc...) .....then about 75% of them completely sold out and decided EVERY f'n song should have a chick singing the damn chorus and it hasn't recovered since.
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It died right after Jay Z's Blueprint 1 and Nas dropped Stillmatic in 2001. Since then its been a rapid plunge downhill into nothingness. Nothing but shit gimmicks and recycled, pop compatible happy club beats.
Eminem fucking sucks now. Jay Z should have retired for good 9 years ago. Rap originating from south of the mason dixon line should be made illegal.
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Same was said about Rock.
i dont think so,but seriously all i see are fucking idiots with there pants hanging off there ass clothes way to big with big fake ugly jewelry on listening to this shit that you cant even understand and when you do understand it,all there talking about is killing people,drugs and sex.wonderful rolemodels for kids.Rap is the worst thing to ever happen to this country.You have these little punks who think there tough cause they listen to fifty cent in the parents basement and think they are him.Its all bullshit.
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It died right after Jay Z's Blueprint 1 and Nas dropped Stillmatic in 2001. Since then its been a rapid plunge downhill into nothingness. Nothing but shit gimmicks and recycled, pop compatible happy club beats.
Eminem fucking sucks now. Jay Z should have retired for good 9 years ago. Rap originating from south of the mason dixon line should be made illegal.
Sadly, I have to agree. Some of the older stuff was ok, but all the newer stuff is pure shit. Or at least when I'm scanning music and come across it, it is.
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This couldn't happen to a better genre of "music"..
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im pretty sure 5-6 of the top 10 selling albums last year was rap...fail...
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im pretty sure 5-6 of the top 10 selling albums last year was rap...fail...
Even if that's true, the number of albums sold has fallen off a cliff in recent years and will continue to do so, as the CD sales model is obsolete, and selling songs on Itunes for 99 cents a pop isn't gonna make you rich.
Since rap depends more on record sales than rock, the former has been hit harder by the switch to mp3s and the harsh reality that hardly anyone pays for music, anymore.
A rock band can tour and make a living; whereas very few rappers can do so, and, the ones who can have a hard time finding venues that will tolerate the lowlife crowd rap attracts.
The bottom line is that most rappers will have to go back to their day jobs viz. drug dealing, robbing, purse snatching, panhandling etc.
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Actually back in my "bangin' days" ;D there was a clear distinction between Rap and Hip-Hop. Hip-hop being the dance, commercial stuff and "rap" being the more serious tone of Eric B and Rakim, BDP, Public Enemy, NWO, etc... I can remember when it was an insult for a rapper to be considered hip-hop (Fresh Prince, Young MC, etc...) .....then about 75% of them completely sold out and decided EVERY f'n song should have a chick singing the damn chorus and it hasn't recovered since.
When people say Hip Hop, it basically means the culture--from rap, B-boying, the dress, the talk, the graffiti "artists"...which now has been commericalized...you have people claiming to be hard, are studio rappers now, and it's okay...before, it was laughed at and clowned...
When Em's first single and album came out, it was basically dissing his mom's, who his woman is just like, and chances are his daughter will grow up to be like---it's a damn sin in "urban" culture to talk about your own mom, regardless of your personal issues---that shit was private. But, he made millions and a name off of that.
Many people don't like rap, the music due to where it came from, and the fact it still is associated with the inner cities...
What I don't like is that rap music, has maintained this image of Promotig doing illegal activities that harm the black community and keep them "pacified"---drug dealing and gang banging for example, while the artists and labels make MILLIONS, and then these same artists act hard and like they are still hood, when in fact they are living better than their former neighborhoods altogether...it's the great farce of hip hop---promote and sell a image---and get people hooked on it, and make money off of it.
Soulja Boy it has been said is the future of Hip Hop, if that is so, then he has stuck a knife in it and killed it.
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Even if that's true, the number of albums sold has fallen off a cliff in recent years and will continue to do so, as the CD sales model is obsolute, and selling songs on Itunes for 99 cents a pop isn't gonna make you rich.
Since rap depends more on record sales than rock, the former has been hit harder by the switch to mp3s and the harsh reality that hardly anyone pays for music, anymore.
A rock band can tour and make a living; whereas very few rappers can do so, and, the ones who can have a hard time finding venues that will tolerate the lowlife crowd rap attracts.
The bottom line is that most rappers will have to go back to their day jobs viz. drug dealing, robbing, purse snatching, panhandling etc.
stop goin by albunm purchased and sales
ITS ALL ABOUT RADIO AIRPLAY
you dont realze how big satelite radio is with rappers like eminem has shade 45 and cameron has a station - HUGE outlets for new music
also I live in char and radio rap is HUGE cause thats how most black people hear thier music - this is wher ethe money is - AIRPLAY
not some fckn apple board selling lillthfair live albums and dave matthews box sets - and what true knee grow gonna pay $1 a song- NONCE
int eh hood you got bootlegs and the popilatiry of the rapper explodes on the undergroudn
music isnt run by the ablums sales now a days
more popluar yhou are and the more people you attract at live performance/touring = ALL THE MONEY
why the rollin stones still tour - MONEY
why lil wayne, gucci, jeezy, wiz khalifa, jayz --- they all tour and have HUGE performances and concerts = ticket sales = MONEY
rap isnt dead is just isnt as mainstream when you take a shit and read your rollin stone issue
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Speak to the avg teen early 20's and they'll prob disagree about rap dying. It's there generation of rap now.
Unfortunately they don't realize they are being fed marketed machine artist from the record companies that OWN all the stations now and actually have a spin count per day that MUST be played to beat it into their heads that this is "hot" now.
the youth now haven't been passed down how to actually listen to music. This is why it's so refreshing when I meet a young person that listens to older stuff along with the new stuff and can compare the difference.
The fool that tells me wacka flacka is the best....omg. lol
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stop goin by albunm purchased and sales
ITS ALL ABOUT RADIO AIRPLAY
Yeah, why would I go by album sales when the first thing you hear about someone like Jay Z or Fifty Cent is how many albums they sold.
So, satellite radio is now the savior? I thought it was ringtones.
Unfortunately they don't realize they are being fed marketed machine artist from the record companies that OWN all the stations now and actually have a spin count per day that MUST be played to beat it into their heads that this is "hot" now.
Record companies are a relic of the past. None of them are making money. Their main value was in mass production and distribution. In the internet era, where music is a file, there's nothing to distribute. Hence, no need for record labels.
Of course, the dinosaurs didn't go extinct overnight, so, these zombies will hang around for awhile, but the writing is on the wall.
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rap died from the late 90's
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I don't think anybody is talking about sales so much.....although almost anything commercial in ANY type of music these days, is horrible. I think it's about the quailty of rap being put out. Compared to the late 80's up to the mid to late 90's, todays stuff is pure shit.
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Rap has became what rock was in the late 80's. It's all about image and the same 3 or 4 guys produce all the albums. Rap needs a "Nirvana" right now to stay relevent to music,
Teenagers will buy whatever they are told to buy for the most part; if one band comes out and smashes the charts the labels will rush out and get 6 clone bands that kids will eat up.....
Rock acts in the long run will always make the most money because they can actually tour consistently; No one is going to throw down 150 bones to see Kanye West in 30 years like they do for the Rolling Stones......
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Im sorry but emenem,kanya,drake all put out 3 of the best rap albums ever last year...I love old school...I grew up on rakim,beastieboys,nwa,epmd,krs 1...but u guys are just nostalgia junkies...theres great rap being made(and no it's not wonka flanka or soulja boy) chances are your just old and set in ur ways...your "glory days" are over but raps is not...
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Im sorry but emenem,kanya,drake all put out 3 of the best rap albums ever last year...I love old school...I grew up on rakim,beastieboys,nwa,epmd,krs 1...but u guys are just nostalgia junkies...theres great rap being made chances are your just old and set in ur ways...your "glory days" are over but raps is not...
Honestly bro; you probably won't throw on any of those albums in about 5 years, Comparing Rakim to any of these moderm mcs is crazy, he could rap about anything while all these guys nowadays can write about is themselves.......
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my bad i'm using the wrong term. I'm referring to the music giants such as sony, EMI, BMG...etc the companies that run the air waves not the labels.
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If anything rock is dead...there is no band in the last 20 years in rock that hold a candle to zepplin,pink floyd,hell there hasnt been any powerful rock since grunge days of soundgarden,alice n chains...sure there are a few bands with a few good songs here and there but no groups out there the same caliber of the aforementioned groups...
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Honestly bro; you probably won't throw on any of those albums in about 5 years, Comparing Rakim to any of these moderm mcs is crazy, he could rap about anything while all these guys nowadays can write about is themselves.......
THIS!
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1st i dont know anyone that throws albums or cds on...its all ipod,mp3,computer with tens of thousands of songs on a list...second there hasnt been a rock album come out recently that i would "throw on" either in 5 years...
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Honestly bro; you probably won't throw on any of those albums in about 5 years, Comparing Rakim to any of these moderm mcs is crazy, he could rap about anything while all these guys nowadays can write about is themselves.......
QFT- the bullshit that these "rappers" churn out now is just pop music with curse words and ignorant poetry a monkey could create (no racist). Throw in the happy go lucky electronic beats that are indistinguishable half the time from really bad euro techno+ a snare drum and you have Hip Hop in 2011.
I agree that as a consequence of popularity and the internet, the music that is released to the wider public has taken a hit, but to me the whole concept of not being mainstream is what made rap music what it is in the first place. Sure you had virtuoso's like Biggie, Pac and Jay Z ( before he became the most over exposed media celebrity since president Osama) that could embrace their street roots and churn out catchy club tunes- but by and large there used to be mainstream guys and street guys. Now the two are virtually indistinghuisable. For fuck sake Justin Bieber is rapping. Justin Timberlake was an R+B star, Eminem is donig tracks with Rihana, David Guetta is produicing tracks for Akon-- the whole fucking thing is a joke.
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The Beastie Boys need to make a new cd!!!
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Im sorry but emenem,kanya,drake all put out 3 of the best rap albums ever last year...I love old school...I grew up on rakim,beastieboys,nwa,epmd,krs 1...but u guys are just nostalgia junkies...theres great rap being made(and no it's not wonka flanka or soulja boy) chances are your just old and set in ur ways...your "glory days" are over but raps is not...
Dude- That eminem album was fucking trash. He should start snorting vicodins again because he turned into the biggest pussy and hypocrite in hip hop. To me Kayne's first album was awesome, his second album was pretty good, and now every time I hear him rap I have the urge to urinate on the person standing closest to me. Of course nobody compares to the pioneers-- but you have a whole crop of guys who made a name for themselves in the early- mid 90's that in my opinion perfected rap music. Wu Tang, Mobb Deep, Nas, Jay Z, Common, CNN, Lox etc. Today those guys have already made their money and don't give a shit about putting out good music, they quit making music and are acting, or they are old bonafide hood rich sellouts that are basically doing guest appearences to make up for the fact that they squandered all of their money.
The three best rappers skill wise are dead-- Big L, Biggie, Big Pun==> The greatest hip hop artist of all time has been dead since '97- Pac-- and if the best this generation can churn out is Kayne West, then I'm sorry-- rap is dead as a doornail.
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Real RAP died a long time ago with a fellow named MC HAMMER.
After he left the "RAP GAME" all things good left with him. All we have left today are commercialized, studio gangsters that talk about nothing in rhythmic patterns..
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The three best rappers skill wise are dead-- Big L, Biggie, Big Pun==> The greatest hip hop artist of all time has been dead since '97- Pac-- and if the best this generation can churn out is Kayne West, then I'm sorry-- rap is dead as a doornail.
Excuse me sir, but you left out MC Hammer.
Please rectify this, thank you.
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Rap died with Tupac and Biggy Smalls. End of story!
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peolpe are getting back into rock
80s almost back
rap will be relegated to sideshow it was and should be
:)
you a muthafuggin Joke!
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If anything rock is dead...there is no band in the last 20 years in rock that hold a candle to zepplin,pink floyd,hell there hasnt been any powerful rock since grunge days of soundgarden,alice n chains...sure there are a few bands with a few good songs here and there but no groups out there the same caliber of the aforementioned groups...
Music industry has changed vastly from the time of those bands. It's extremely difficult to have any form of longevity in today's music environment. Today's audience is afflicted with a massive case of ADD.
Tons of great rock/metal music out there these days.
If anything, rock/metal is so popular at the moment it's becoming over saturated with bands and watered down by too many clones.
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Since rap depends more on record sales than rock, the former has been hit harder by the switch to mp3s and the harsh reality that hardly anyone pays for music, anymore.
This will have to be changed if you want an industry to continue...
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This will have to be changed if you want an industry to continue...
If you want to survive you have to tour, plain and simple....
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If you want recorded music to continue, a way will have to be found to make the pieces (MP3's) to pay on their own...
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The Beastie Boys need to make a new cd!!!
they did..it will be out late spring early summer...
Dude- That eminem album was fucking trash. He should start snorting vicodins again because he turned into the biggest pussy and hypocrite in hip hop. To me Kayne's first album was awesome, his second album was pretty good, and now every time I hear him rap I have the urge to urinate on the person standing closest to me. Of course nobody compares to the pioneers-- but you have a whole crop of guys who made a name for themselves in the early- mid 90's that in my opinion perfected rap music. Wu Tang, Mobb Deep, Nas, Jay Z, Common, CNN, Lox etc. Today those guys have already made their money and don't give a shit about putting out good music, they quit making music and are acting, or they are old bonafide hood rich sellouts that are basically doing guest appearences to make up for the fact that they squandered all of their money.
The three best rappers skill wise are dead-- Big L, Biggie, Big Pun==> The greatest hip hop artist of all time has been dead since '97- Pac-- and if the best this generation can churn out is Kayne West, then I'm sorry-- rap is dead as a doornail.
we have the same taste...wu,cnn,nas,smif n wessen,mobb is my shit...that being said...your just getting old and are nostalgic about the music you came up to...
as far as the emenem album i 100% disagree...that emenem album is an instant classic if anything the last 2-3 prior albums of his was trash....
Music industry has changed vastly from the time of those bands. It's extremely difficult to have any form of longevity in today's music environment. Today's audience is afflicted with a massive case of ADD.
Tons of great rock/metal music out there these days.
If anything, rock/metal is so popular at the moment it's becoming over saturated with bands and watered down by too many clones.
Im sorry but if you think the above music is on the level of a alice n chains,STP,soundgarden, I feel sorry for you...if the above is the best rock can do these days then its dead as a door nail...
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Im sorry but if you think the above music is on the level of a alice n chains,STP,soundgarden, I feel sorry for you...if the above is the best rock can do these days then its dead as a door nail...
This is the best rock can do these days:
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they did..it will be out late spring early summer...
we have the same taste...wu,cnn,nas,smif n wessen,mobb is my shit...that being said...your just getting old and are nostalgic about the music you came up to...
as far as the emenem album i 100% disagree...that emenem album is an instant classic if anything the last 2-3 prior albums of his was trash....
Im sorry but if you think the above music is on the level of a alice n chains,STP,soundgarden, I feel sorry for you...if the above is the best rock can do these days then its dead as a door nail...
Smif n Wessen, Boot Camp Click, Jeltah Skeltah, Jeru the Damajah, those dude tore it up...
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Smif n Wessen, Boot Camp Click, Jeltah Skeltah, Jeru the Damajah, those dude tore it up...
no doubt
dont get much better than this
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no doubt
dont get much better than this
My shit was Black Moon, they were THE SHIT!!!
How Many MCs must get dissed, and the bangest song ever Buck Em Down, and Buck Em Down the Remix, which both featured the sample of Donald Byrd's "Wind Parade"
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My shit was Black Moon, they were THE SHIT!!!
How Many MCs must get dissed, and the bangest song ever Buck Em Down, and Buck Em Down the Remix, which both featured the sample of Donald Byrd's "Wind Parade"
haha back moon is the shit,,,were u from you got the ol school flavor
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haha back moon is the shit,,,were u from you got the ol school flavor
Annapolis, MD---we mostly listening to DC Go-Go as, Annapolis is between DC and Baltimore...so we listened to a lot of EU
but I listened to a lot of BDK and Bahamadia (sp), X-clan (To the East...), Poor Righteous Teachers.
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Im sorry but if you think the above music is on the level of a alice n chains,STP,soundgarden, I feel sorry for you...if the above is the best rock can do these days then its dead as a door nail...
STP , AIC and Soundgarden? Seriously? Dude, c'mon now. Those are not band names that should come up in any serious discussion about rock music. Perhaps Tool, if you're going to mention any 90's band. But even then, apart from the drummer and vocalist they're very sub-par musicians.
The musicians in the bands I mentioned are light years beyond that single finger chord, drop D stuff. The 90's were a horrible, horrible decade for music, period. Everyone forgot how to play their instruments and stocks in flannel hit an all time high. Real music was pushed underground by the money hungry recording industry. I'll assume you were brought up in the 90's, hence your fondness for that time period.
In terms of creativity alone, Pain of Salvation and Opeth are far beyond anything those bands could even hope to comprehend, much less emulate. Both bands are genre defying, blending styles from several different genres of music, be it jazz, rock, metal, blues, pop or folk. Incredibly diverse stuff. While both bands are capable of great virtuosity, the song writing always comes first and foremost. Modern rock is at a creative all time high.
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This is the best rock can do these days:
Great tune man!
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IMHO...
rap was at it's zenith in the late 80s and early 90s.