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Title: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 10, 2011, 07:31:12 PM





Best political donation I have ever made by far.  
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 06:51:18 AM
I hope he runs for Pres on day. 

Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: loco on March 11, 2011, 06:53:52 AM
Not as good and honest as his dad.    :(
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 06:55:35 AM
Not as good and honest as his dad.    :(

I'll take a 90% loaf any day over a 0% turd sandwhich.   

BTW - the first clip is total kick ass.  He put the communist bitch right in her place.   
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on March 11, 2011, 06:56:35 AM
Not as good and honest as his dad.    :(

Yup, I like ROns tactics better, brutal honesty.
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 06:58:04 AM
Yup, I like ROns tactics better, brutal honesty.

Did you watch the first clip?  That is not honest or blunt enough? 
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 07:00:16 AM
Yup, I like ROns tactics better, brutal honesty.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  I like Ron Paul myself, but the son just came on the scene.   He is off to a great start and will only grow better.

Check this out.     

Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2011, 07:03:52 AM
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Freeborn126 on March 11, 2011, 08:52:09 AM
I cannot bring myself to support some one who worships the Aqua Bhudda..... 

Haha, yeah right, Rand Paul is awesome, finally some one who's got some balls to shake up the senate with some common sense.  Rand Paul for pres 2016/2020, if our country makes it that far.   
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
Sen. Paul Unveils 5-Year Budget Plan: Eliminates Four Federal Agencies
ABC News ^ | 3/17/2011 | Mary Bruce



Senator Rand Paul, R-Ky., unveiled today his five-year path to a balanced budget, leaving several federal agencies behind. Among the items on the cutting room floor are the Departments of Education, Energy, Commerce and Housing and Urban Development.

“There’s a lot of things in here that everybody could agree to, Republicans and Democrats, but nobody’s leading on the president’s side and on our side we felt we needed to put this forward to get the debate started, at the very least,” the freshman Senator explained at a Capitol Hill press conference this afternoon.

The proposal also calls for the repeal of “Obamacare,” but leaves entitlements untouched.

“There’s an argument for every federal program up here… Nobody’s coming up here asking me for money that’s not for a good reason. But the alternative is that we get into a point of financial disaster where nobody gets any money,” he said.

According to Paul, a Tea Party conservative, the proposal will bring spending to the “historic average since World War II” in just one year. He further claims the budget achieves a $19 billion surplus by FY2016 and will bring all non-military discretionary spending back to FY2008 levels.

Paul’s proposal gained support from freshman Senator Mike Lee, R-Utah, who today challenged anyone who opposes the plan to come up with a better option.


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Great job by Rand Paul.   I really like this guy.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 23, 2011, 12:55:45 PM
Could we have Father and Son for Prez and Veep? 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 29, 2011, 05:06:17 AM
Title: Re: Rand Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: chadstallion on March 29, 2011, 06:33:58 AM
I hope he runs for Pres on day. 


so do I.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dos Equis on April 02, 2011, 11:59:09 AM
Which Paul for president?
By: CNN's Rebecca Stewart

(CNN)- Republican Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul makes his first stop in Iowa on Saturday, home of the first-in-the-nation presidential caucus. Paul, son of two-time presidential candidate Ron Paul, will be holding two signing events for his book, "The Tea Party Goes to Washington," but remained vague on which Paul will run for president in 2012.

"We haven't talked about it that much," he told Radio Iowa, in an interview Saturday. "I've told people that the only decision I've made is that I wouldn't run against him."

Congressman Ron Paul has not committed to a third bid for the Republican presidential nomination, but his son said, "I think that the signs I see of his travel and where he's going and how much he has been going lead me to think he might be interested in running again…even if he does, I want to be part of the process in some way."

The senator scoffed at potential criticism over his lack of experience, noting that it didn't hurt Obama and saying, "Lincoln was elected with two years experience as a congressman 15 years before he ran for president. Obama, I think, announced he was running 43 days into his term."

Then-Senator Obama actually announced his bid for the presidency on February 10, 2007, two years and one month after taking office in January of 2005.

"I think people can make any criticism they want and whether it's valid or not, I think that's the winnowing process that goes through a primary," Paul continued.

Drawing on his "passion to try to fix the problems in our country before it's too late," Paul asserted that he sees a "shorter time line," than 15 or 20 years when it comes to the presidential call to serve, mainly because "there's no money left."

"Is it just good for a country to continually spend beyond their means?" he asked.

And Paul's critique of the nation's spending habits isn't restricted to Democrats. "I see it as not just a Democrat/Republican problem. I think Republicans are part of the problem as well," he said.

Singling out the "entitlement program for prescription drugs," Paul called out his party peers, saying "Republicans are 100 percent against ObamaCare, but the vast majority of them voted for the prescription drug program."

The freshman senator wrote his book on the Tea Party in an attempt to chronicle the movement, which he believes will play a major role in deciding the 2012 GOP nominee for president. It was released in February by Center Street, an imprint of Hachette Book Group.

Planned Iowa events include a book signing in Ames, home of the Iowa Straw Poll scheduled in August, a statewide barometer of whom Iowa Republicans will select for the party nomination.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/02/which-paul-for-president/#more-152571
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: 240 is Back on April 02, 2011, 01:25:07 PM
Whichever Paul runs - they should pledge to give the other one plenty of input.  Both of them would be good for america - better than the status quo people that both sides seem to deliver.

Face it - A president Cantor isn't going to be all that different.  President Palin or President Newt... in 10 years, the country will pretty much look the same.  They wo'nt cut entitlements that much.  They sure as heck won't cut 4 departments like this.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2011, 01:41:29 PM
Paul paul 2012. 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 02, 2011, 01:46:19 PM
I have acutally been  impressed with Rands speeches lately... very well spoken, so much so that even the average chimp public can understand what he's saying. He could be a force in the near future.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2011, 09:40:06 AM


Good speech. 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Fury on April 03, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
Which Paul for president?
By: CNN's Rebecca Stewart

(CNN)- Republican Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul makes his first stop in Iowa on Saturday, home of the first-in-the-nation presidential caucus. Paul, son of two-time presidential candidate Ron Paul, will be holding two signing events for his book, "The Tea Party Goes to Washington," but remained vague on which Paul will run for president in 2012.

"We haven't talked about it that much," he told Radio Iowa, in an interview Saturday. "I've told people that the only decision I've made is that I wouldn't run against him."

Congressman Ron Paul has not committed to a third bid for the Republican presidential nomination, but his son said, "I think that the signs I see of his travel and where he's going and how much he has been going lead me to think he might be interested in running again…even if he does, I want to be part of the process in some way."

The senator scoffed at potential criticism over his lack of experience, noting that it didn't hurt Obama and saying, "Lincoln was elected with two years experience as a congressman 15 years before he ran for president. Obama, I think, announced he was running 43 days into his term."

Then-Senator Obama actually announced his bid for the presidency on February 10, 2007, two years and one month after taking office in January of 2005.

"I think people can make any criticism they want and whether it's valid or not, I think that's the winnowing process that goes through a primary," Paul continued.

Drawing on his "passion to try to fix the problems in our country before it's too late," Paul asserted that he sees a "shorter time line," than 15 or 20 years when it comes to the presidential call to serve, mainly because "there's no money left."

"Is it just good for a country to continually spend beyond their means?" he asked.

And Paul's critique of the nation's spending habits isn't restricted to Democrats. "I see it as not just a Democrat/Republican problem. I think Republicans are part of the problem as well," he said.

Singling out the "entitlement program for prescription drugs," Paul called out his party peers, saying "Republicans are 100 percent against ObamaCare, but the vast majority of them voted for the prescription drug program."

The freshman senator wrote his book on the Tea Party in an attempt to chronicle the movement, which he believes will play a major role in deciding the 2012 GOP nominee for president. It was released in February by Center Street, an imprint of Hachette Book Group.

Planned Iowa events include a book signing in Ames, home of the Iowa Straw Poll scheduled in August, a statewide barometer of whom Iowa Republicans will select for the party nomination.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/02/which-paul-for-president/#more-152571

To me, Rand comes off as 1000x more electable than his father. Ron is too old and too alienating to win.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2011, 01:55:55 PM
Rand Paul has a great demeanor about him. 
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Post by: chadstallion on April 03, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
Rand Paul has a great demeanor about him. 
So do you, but I wouldn't vote for you...
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2011, 02:28:44 PM
So do you, but I wouldn't vote for you...

No I dont have a good demeanor.   I would be barking orders, calling spades a spade, putting welfare bums and illegals in their place, putting lazy bastards to work cleaning toilets, firing govt workers left and right, etc, and telling people off every second, and loving it.     
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 03, 2011, 06:29:29 PM


Ron Paul dominates the debate despite loaded questions by neo con fox news
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
Huckabee is the one guy I really cant stand in the gop who is flirting w running.   He makes me sick with his pastor schtick. 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 03, 2011, 06:39:10 PM
He is in there because the evangelicals will all vote for him.  They will never vote for Paul becuase he wants to legalize pot and he doesn't like to perpetually bomb and invade muslim countries.  I think the devout christian vote is one of the biggest threats to honest candidates like Paul, Cain, Johnson.  They just take their orders from their preacher and Hannity and don't ask questions.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: chadstallion on April 04, 2011, 06:24:17 AM
Huckabee is the one guy I really cant stand in the gop who is flirting w running.   He makes me sick with his pastor schtick. 
see. again we agree on something !
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2011, 02:30:18 PM
He is in there because the evangelicals will all vote for him.  They will never vote for Paul becuase he wants to legalize pot and he doesn't like to perpetually bomb and invade muslim countries.  I think the devout christian vote is one of the biggest threats to honest candidates like Paul, Cain, Johnson.  They just take their orders from their preacher and Hannity and don't ask questions.

What's your source for this? 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2011, 01:18:54 PM
Rand Paul will vote against budget deal; calls cuts negligible
The Hill ^ | 04/11/2011 | Alexander Bolton




Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a founding member of the Senate Tea Party Caucus, is urging his colleagues to vote against the spending deal between President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

Paul, who has proposed cutting $200 billion or $500 billion from discretionary spending over the rest of 2011, said the cuts agreed to Friday night are negligible.

“The much-ballyhooed 2011 continuing resolution will leave the federal government spending $1.6 trillion more than it takes in,” Paul wrote in a letter to Senate and House colleagues. “Despite descriptions of cuts, the 2011 Congress will spend more than it did in 2010 and with a larger annual deficit. It is the third year in a row with a record deficit.

“Only in Washington can a budget that spends more than it did the year before, with a larger deficit, be portrayed as ‘cutting’,” he wrote.


(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 11, 2011, 01:52:21 PM


Ron Paul dominates the debate despite loaded questions by neo con fox news


That was fucking awesome, even though I watched that debate a few times already. He owned all those bitches. The reality he brought was too much to handle, I'm sure a few brains melted in that room.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on April 11, 2011, 01:56:54 PM
Rand Paul will vote against budget deal; calls cuts negligible
The Hill ^ | 04/11/2011 | Alexander Bolton



“Only in Washington can a budget that spends more than it did the year before, with a larger deficit, be portrayed as ‘cutting’,” he wrote.


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The only left to to is laugh. What a tragic comedy.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2011, 02:02:01 PM
The only left to to is laugh. What a tragic comedy.

Rand Paul is by far and above the best poitical donation I ever made.   
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 11, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
You know I was actually listening to Glenn Beck's radio show this morning for once and he made a very good suggestion.  I don't remember his exact words but he said his ideal 2012 ticket was:

Alan West- President
Michele Bachmann- VP
Ron Paul- Treasury Secretary

Because Ron Paul would be the only one that could "clear out the rat's nest" that is our US Treasury.

If Paul can't get Pres. nomination he'd be an awesome treasury sec.  But I'm sure it will end up being another Goldman Sachs tax cheat.

Maybe Beck is going to start being more honest in his support of Paul now the he has parted with Fox News.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2011, 03:43:14 PM
You know I was actually listening to Glenn Beck's radio show this morning for once and he made a very good suggestion.  I don't remember his exact words but he said his ideal 2012 ticket was:

Alan West- President
Michele Bachmann- VP
Ron Paul- Treasury Secretary

Because Ron Paul would be the only one that could "clear out the rat's nest" that is our US Treasury.

If Paul can't get Pres. nomination he'd be an awesome treasury sec.  But I'm sure it will end up being another Goldman Sachs tax cheat.

Maybe Beck is going to start being more honest in his support of Paul now the he has parted with Fox News.

He's not leaving Fox.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2011, 10:53:35 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 25, 2011, 05:01:59 AM
 :D

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2011, 07:41:43 AM
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2011, 07:44:37 AM
You know I was actually listening to Glenn Beck's radio show this morning for once and he made a very good suggestion.  I don't remember his exact words but he said his ideal 2012 ticket was:

Alan West- President
Michele Bachmann- VP
Ron Paul- Treasury Secretary

Because Ron Paul would be the only one that could "clear out the rat's nest" that is our US Treasury.

If Paul can't get Pres. nomination he'd be an awesome treasury sec.  But I'm sure it will end up being another Goldman Sachs tax cheat.

Maybe Beck is going to start being more honest in his support of Paul now the he has parted with Fox News.

The first two you list are corporate cronies; only RP is legit.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 05, 2011, 05:51:56 PM
CNN Poll: Still no front-runner in the battle for the GOP nomination
 By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/05/cnn-poll-still-no-front-runner-in-the-battle-for-the-gop-nomination


 

Greenville, South Carolina (CNN) - A new national poll indicates the race for the Republican presidential nomination remains wide-open, with none of the probable or potential GOP White House contenders above 20 percent, according to a new national poll.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey's Thursday release comes hours before the first Republican presidential debate of the 2012 election cycle. The debate is being held in South Carolina, which holds the first southern primary on the road to the White House.

The poll also indicates President Barack Obama is ahead of all probable and possible GOP candidates tested in hypothetical general election matchups, but the person who comes closest to Obama may surprise you.

According to the survey, conducted just before the news of the death of Osama bin Laden, 16 percent of Republicans and independents who lean Republican say they would be likely to support Mike Huckabee for the Republican presidential nomination. The former Arkansas governor ran for the White House in 2008, and while to date he hasn't taken many steps towards launching another campaign, he has definitely not ruled out another bid for his party's nomination.

Fourteen percent say they'd back Donald Trump. The billionaire businessman, real estate mogul and reality TV star says he will announce by June if he's going to run for the White House.

One point back is Mitt Romney, at 13 percent. The former Massachusetts governor and 2008 GOP White House candidate has been adding to his campaign team in recent months and last month launched a presidential exploratory committee.

The poll indicates that 11 percent support Sarah Palin. The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee has not made any serious moves towards launching a campaign, but says she isn't closing any doors.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who has run for the White House twice before, both stand at ten percent in the poll. Both men have taken steps towards formally launching campaigns. Everyone else questioned in the survey registered at five percent or less.

"No GOP candidate has a statistically significant lead, so it's way too soon to start talking about frontrunners," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

Is it all about name recognition at this still relatively early point in the GOP horserace?

"Yes, but name recognition alone is not enough. Otherwise one of the best known candidates, Palin, would not be stuck in fourth place. Trump and Palin, with the highest name ID, also have the highest unfavorable ratings," adds Holland.

Fifty-nine percent of all Americans dislike the former Alaska Governor and 64 percent have a negative view of Trump, according to the poll. The survey indicates Gingrich also has relatively high unfavorables, but the favorable ratings for Romney and Huckabee outweigh their unfavorables, although both are unknown to more than a quarter of the general public.

Seventy-eight percent of Democrats or independents who lean Democrat say they back Obama as the party's presidential nominee next year, with just over one in five saying they'd prefer another Democrat. That number has remained relatively consistent over the past year.

What about the showdown in November 2012?

According to the poll, taken before the announcement of Osama bin Laden's death, President Barack Obama has an edge over all the top GOP candidates in hypothetical match-ups.

Who does best against Obama? Paul. The congressman from Texas, who also ran as a libertarian candidate for president in 1988 and who is well liked by many in the tea party movement, trails the president by only seven points (52 to 45 percent) in a hypothetical general election showdown. Huckabee trails by eight points, with Romney down 11 points to Obama.  

The poll indicates the president leading Gingrich by 17 points, Palin by 19, and Trump by 22 points.

"It should be obvious to any political observer that hypothetical general election match-ups at this stage of the game have relatively little predictive value," says Holland.

"GOP primary match-ups are another matter - since the modern era of presidential primaries began in 1972, there have been six times when the GOP nomination was up for grabs. In five of those six election cycles, the eventual GOP winner was leading the polls taken in April of the previous year. That may mean little in 2011 since no Republican hopeful has a commanding lead, but it also means that the history books won't let us completely dismiss these polls," adds Holland.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted April 29-May 1, with 1,034 adult Americans questioned by telephone. All interviews were completed before the president announced that bin Laden, the founder and leader of the al Qaeda terrorist network and the man responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks, was killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 17, 2011, 07:08:09 PM
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Senator Paul Proposes Gas Tax Freedom
http://www.randpaul2010.com/ ^
Posted on May 17, 2011 8:08:49 PM EDT by Lucky9teen

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Sen. Rand Paul proposed a plan to reduce the burden on Americans facing ever-increasing prices at the gas pump. This amendment, which will be proposed to any energy bill that comes before the Senate, would eliminate the profit per gallon the federal government receives every time we fill up our cars, and will offset the loss in revenue with cuts to foreign aid.

Last week, oil company chiefs were called to testify in the House, where Democrats berated them for turning a profit on the product they offer consumers. While oil companies make an average profit of $0.07 per gallon of gas sold, the federal government collects nearly three times that in taxes. The Democrat solution to this is to raise taxes on the oil companies – a cost that will undoubtedly be passed on to consumers.

“Eliminating the federal gas tax passes on a $0.184 saving per gallon to consumers. Raising taxes on the companies that provide this product would have the opposite effect,” Sen. Paul said. “The only real solution to this problem in the short term is to eliminate the government’s cut and pass the savings on to consumers.”

While some worry that eliminating this tax will lead to a decrease in revenue for the Highway Trust Fund, Sen. Paul has a solution for that as well: “Every dollar that is lost in the highway trust fund from the gas tax holiday will be replaced by cuts in foreign aid and in corporate welfare,” he said.

Speaking on the Senate floor this afternoon, Sen. Paul addressed this proposal. The following is a video and transcript of his floor speech.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 26, 2011, 07:07:42 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 26, 2011, 11:24:12 AM
Good clip!   

Thanks Samson.

Obama fanatics wont have dick to say.   

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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 27, 2011, 06:39:03 AM
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: whork25 on May 27, 2011, 06:49:10 AM
Ron Paul is the shit

I like how he is not selling out on his principles to be the repub contender like Mccain and others
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Post by: Soul Crusher on June 02, 2011, 06:48:41 AM
Ron Paul: There’s Anger… There’s Going To Be Riots In The Streets
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 5-7-2010 | Rocky Vega




Ron Paul: There’s Anger… There’s Going To Be Riots In The Streets

By Rocky Vega


05/07/10 Stockholm, Sweden – Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) was on Fox News yesterday, discussing Greece and describing how the financial crisis has become a currency crisis… which is much worse. He sees an attack on the dollar in terms of gold, and has no doubt that the currency crisis is a worldwide problem.

Referring to whether or not Greece-like riots could take place in the US he says:

“Absolutely, there’s going to be anger. There’s going to be riots in the streets as well. But this is all a consequence of the fact of why and how government could spend like this. It’s because they don’t have sound money.

“When we run up deficits, we tax, but never enough. We can’t tax, it would ruin the economy. Then we borrow, and we get away with that for a long time. But, we rely on printing presses from the Federal Reserve to create money and that’s where the problem is [...] we can’t have fake money, this is counterfeit.”

[snip]


(Excerpt) Read more at dailyreckoning.com ...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2011, 06:13:21 PM
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Rand Paul: Debt Ceiling Filibuster!
C-SPAN ^ | July 3, 2011
Posted on July 3, 2011 6:42:16 PM EDT by bobk333

On Newsmakers, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) said he will hold up the Senate’s business next week to force a debate on the debt limit. The Senate canceled its Fourth of July break to ensure discussions on raising the debt ceiling continues, but most of the discussions are happening behind the scenes.

Senator Paul said on Newsmakers that he “will filibuster until we talk about the debt ceiling.” He said the full Senate, instead of a small group of Senators, needs to engage in debate.

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Post by: Purge_WTF on July 04, 2011, 06:32:11 PM
  The man who restored my faith in America and Conservatism.
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on July 04, 2011, 07:26:13 PM
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Rand Paul: Debt Ceiling Filibuster!
C-SPAN ^ | July 3, 2011
Posted on July 3, 2011 6:42:16 PM EDT by bobk333

On Newsmakers, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) said he will hold up the Senate’s business next week to force a debate on the debt limit. The Senate canceled its Fourth of July break to ensure discussions on raising the debt ceiling continues, but most of the discussions are happening behind the scenes.

Senator Paul said on Newsmakers that he “will filibuster until we talk about the debt ceiling.” He said the full Senate, instead of a small group of Senators, needs to engage in debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...


I had some doubts with Rand bit so far he's been on the ball. Sometimes I think he just said some neocon type stuff regarding the wars just so he wouldn't alienate some of the more stubborn Republican morons.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 01:43:29 PM
Rep. Ron Paul: Abolish TSA (Proposes 'American Traveler Dignity Act')
The Hill ^ | July 5, 2011 | Keith Lang


________________________ ________________________ _________________



The Transportation Security Administration should be abolished, Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (Texas) said over the weekend.

Speaking on his weekly "Texas Straight Talk" audio address, Paul said that recent reports alleging a 95-year-old woman was forced to remove her adult diaper and an eight-month-old baby's diaper was inspected showed the TSA was overzealous.

"The press reports are horrifying," Paul said. "Ninety-five-year-old women humiliated, children molested, disabled people abused. Men and women subjected to unwarranted groping and touching of their most private areas, and involuntary radiation exposure.

“If the perpetrators were a gang of criminals, their headquarters would be raided by SWAT teams and armed federal agents," he continued. "Unfortunately in this case, the perpetrators are armed federal agents."

Paul said he was introducing a bill called the "American Traveler Dignity Act," which he said would force TSA employees to follow existing laws against inappropriate physical contact.

"It means they are not above laws the rest of us must obey," he said.

Paul's comments echoed criticisms raised by his son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (R), who took the TSA to task in a recent committee meeting.

The younger Paul said reports that TSA had given children pat-downs made him feel less safe.

"It makes me think you’re clueless, if you think she’s going to attack our country ... you’re not doing your research on the people who want to attack our country," he said.


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Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2011, 07:15:57 PM
Ron and Rand Paul say downgrade is fault of Washington, not Tea Party
CBS ^ | Lucy Madison
Posted on August 8, 2011 10:02:27 PM EDT by dragnet2

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex., and his son, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., both blasted Tea Party critics on Monday for suggesting that the conservative movement with which they're both linked may have had something to do with America's recent credit downgrade by the ratings agency Standard & Poor's.

The elder Paul, a longtime lawmaker, staunch libertarian, and presidential candidate, decried the allegations as an "attempt to scapegoat" Tea Party lawmakers. He pinned the downgrade on the Washington establishment.

"This attempt to scapegoat folks who recognize that our debt is out of control and that we must change course should not be tolerated," he said in a Monday statement. "They are simply demanding that Washington do its job."

He continued: "We were downgraded because of years of reckless spending, not because concerned Americans demanded we get our finances in order.

The Washington establishment has spent us into near default and now a downgrade, and here they are again trying to escape responsibility for their negligence in handling the economy."

In a Sunday appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation," Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod pinned responsibility for America's recent downgrade - arguing that the group's political "brinksmanship" during debt ceiling negotiations "brought us to the brink of a default."

"The fact of the matter is that this is essentially a Tea Party downgrade," Axelrod declared.

Former presidential candidate Howard Dean, also speaking on "Face the Nation," argued that the "radical right" had essentially scared mainstream Republicans off of voting for a debt limit package that could have included tax increases - and staved off the ratings dip.

Dean said the American people are there, the Democrats are there, a lot of reasonable Republicans are there, but they are terrified of these right wing splinter groups, the radical right, because they are so powerful in the primaries."

Rand Paul, the first-term Kentucky Senator who was elected in 2010 with the support of the Tea Party, argued that blaming the movement for America's economic woes was like "blaming the fireman for fires "he said in a statement. "The Tea Party has been fighting for a serious solution that would rescue our finances through immediate spending cuts, spending caps and most importantly, a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution."

"While Democrats would like to lay blame on the Tea Party for the current economic failure, it is their President who has failed in leadership, failed to lower unemployment, failed to rescue our economy, failed to prevent a downgrade of our debt, and failed to control spending," he added.

The Dow Jones industrial fell 634.76 points on Monday, as anxiety plagued Wall Street on the first trading day since Standard & Poor's downgraded American debt. The drop is the sixth worst point decline for the Dow in the last 112 years. Every stock in the S&P's 500 index declined Monday.

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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 08, 2011, 09:20:13 PM
And people still think Ron didn't get much of a fair break last election?! Ha! This is proof that the sane individual, the one that tried to warm everyone was ridiculed/marginalized on purpose and it isn't any more obvious then now. It's happening all over again. I wish people could see through this but it won't happen.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2011, 09:33:51 AM
Notice the cluebags act as if what he is saying is some major revelation. 


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Post by: Emmortal on August 15, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
Clearly defining his views on topics:



This is what I always bring up when people say "well I don't like his stance on gay marriage, or whatever.  He clearly says gays should be allowed to marry and do whatever they want, the government should be removed from the act of marriage, which is something I agree with.  Why should someone get benefits from the government just because they signed a piece of paper?  If two people live together for 30 years without signing any contract, then they are in fact exactly the same as any other couple who did.
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Post by: Emmortal on August 15, 2011, 09:27:11 PM
Owning shitstain McCain:



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Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2011, 08:48:52 PM
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Ron Paul delivers strongly anti-abortion speech
Politico ^ | 2011-08-13 | Alexander Burns
Posted on August 17, 2011 11:21:43 PM EDT by rabscuttle385

Meet Ron Paul, the social conservative.

The Texas congressman, best known for his small-government, anti-Federal Reserve economic views, tacked in a different direction with his Ames address and delivered an uncharacteristically sharp denunciation of the practice of abortion. Continue Reading

Paul began his remarks by acknowledging that his campaign is "identified with the cause of liberty." But, he continued: "There is something that precedes liberty and that is life."

"The prime reason that government exists in a free society is to protect liberty, but also to protect life. And I mean all life," Paul said.

The libertarian-leaning presidential candidate, who is an obstetrician by training, has long opposed abortion rights, but has not emphasized it in his presidential campaigns.

In his speech this afternoon, Paul described himself as "very strong right to life" and claimed that when he was in training in the 1950s, "It was assumed everybody was pro-life and abortions weren’t to be done."

By the 1960s, Paul said, that was changing. He recalled that physicians were "defying the law in doing abortions," and told a bracing story of seeing doctors deliver a baby via Caesarean section and then "put it in a bucket in the corner of the room and let it die and pretended nobody heard it."

"We cannot play God and make those decisions. All life is precious," Paul said. "You have to understand where that liberty and that life comes from. It does not come from the government. It comes from our creators."

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Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2011, 11:20:26 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 20, 2011, 09:41:56 AM
Paul blasts Obama for proposed cuts to veteran health care
By Justin Sink - 09/20/11 11:37 AM ET
www.thehill.com

 

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul blasted President Obama's budget-reduction proposal Tuesday, saying that the suggestion to raise co-pays for military veterans is "unjust and immoral."

The Obama plan proposes a $200 annual fee for retired military families who want to continue coverage under a Tricare-for-Life program that supplements Medicare coverage for veterans over 65. The proposal would save the government $6.7 billion over 10 years, according to the White House.

The president's proposal would also eliminate co-pays for mail-order drugs and institute a percentage co-pay rather than a flat-fee for in-pharmacy purchases. The White House says the move will encourage military families to use less expensive prescriptions, and save $20 billion over 20 years.

The Pentagon has also said that current retirees would be grandfathered in to the program, and would not face proposed cuts to military pension programs.

But veterans groups have opposed the move, and Paul seized on the issue to hammer the president.

"Failing to meet the promises we have made to our troops would be unjust and immoral," Paul said in an open letter to Obama. "Our military men and women have fought bravely. In exchange, our country made a promise to them, and we must honor it."

The candidate used the proposal as a jumping off point to reiterate his call for the United States to withdraw from wars in the Middle East.

"Cutting the benefits of our Veterans benefits while we subsidize the security of other wealthy nations like Germany and Japan and play World Policeman makes no sense," Paul said. "The money we would save extracting our fighting men and women and our equipment from overseas conflicts and regions will more than offset the savings you seek by upending the manner in which veterans receive care."

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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 20, 2011, 08:33:21 PM
Check out this video on YouTube:




jack caffery nails it.
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Post by: Deicide on September 21, 2011, 05:15:06 AM
Check out this video on YouTube:




jack caffery nails it.

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Post by: Deicide on September 21, 2011, 05:18:10 AM
Check out this video on YouTube:




jack caffery nails it.

People obviously like their entitlements and taxes.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 23, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
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Why Ron Paul is winning the GOP primary
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-ron-paul-is-winning-the-gop-primary/2011/09/21/gIQAWiXulK_story.html ^
Posted on September 23, 2011 12:14:54 AM EDT by free_life

By Dana Milbank, Published: September 21

Just 15 seconds into a question-and-answer session with reporters Wednesday morning, Ron Paul found a way to work in a mention of the Austrian School of economics.

From there, he moved inexorably through the Paul oeuvre: the need for the gold standard, the problem with energy-efficient light bulbs, why Greece should declare bankruptcy, why Grover Cleveland was his favorite president, and how our economy is collapsing “just like the Soviet system.”

........Ron Paul is winning the 2012 Republican presidential primary.

Paul won’t be the president, or even the party nominee, but that was never his goal. He aimed to shift the debate toward his exotic economic theories, and by that standard he has prevailed.

Republican leaders in Congress have joined Paul’s crusade against the Federal Reserve. And his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination are stealing his ideas.

“We’re in a big mess,” he began. “Personal liberty is under attack. Our financial system is under attack.” Matter-of-fact observations continued: “Our foreign policy is a shambles. ... We’ve consumed our wealth. ... We are destroying our currency.... Total failure.”

......... Paul cares more about theory than power. “I have one goal in life politically,” he explained, “and the goal is to make this a better country, change economic policy, change foreign policy, change the monetary policy and explain to people why we have booms and busts.” Actually, that’s five goals, but Paul says his ambition is being realized. “The issues have come our way,” he said. “The attitude of the whole country is shifting in our direction.”

Exhibit A: A letter sent Monday by Republican leaders to Bernanke urging the independent body not to stimulate the economy. “It should’ve been said about 30 years ago or 40 years ago,” Paul said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2011, 10:00:53 AM
Rand Paul Schools Senate Establishment
Townhall.com ^ | October 17, 2011 | Dan Holler




Let me be the first to thank Senator Rand Paul (R-KY).

Later this week, he will make some old bulls in the United States Senate very uncomfortable – and that is a good thing considering the Senate Establishment has never hesitated to expand government and spend taxpayer dollars. Senator Paul is planning to bombard a Health, Education, Labor and Pension (HELP) Committee markup with amendments -- many, many amendments. His target will be the reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA).

As Vice President Biden would say, this is “a big [freaking] deal.”

It would be the ninth reauthorization of the 1965 law, which is the largest federal law governing K thru 12 education policy. The previous reauthorization, No Child Left Behind (NCLB), cost taxpayers roughly $131 billion between 2005 and 2010. NCLB also significantly expanded the federal role in education, weakened state control and stifled innovation at the local level.

Enter Senator Paul, who is going to sit through a grueling markup and offer amendment after amendment to a terrible piece of legislation that the committee’s chairman Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) drafted behind closed doors. Senator Harkin and President Obama have incorrectly interpreted the broad, bipartisan dissatisfaction with No Child Left Behind as a mandate to rewrite the law to further empower the federal government, albeit in different ways. The consequences of Senator Harkin’s proposal are sweeping and there is plenty to discuss in the 860-page bill.

In an era of diminished transparency and massive bills, a robust and well-planned amendment process is necessary. Senator Paul is taking on the “pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it” mentality that saddled our nation with Obamacare. Subjecting every line of any legislation to discussion and amendment is one of the most important ways conservatives can begin reining in our government’s excesses.

Committee amendments are also one of the only ways conservatives can amend or even get a vote on legislation in the Senate. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has made a disturbing habit of blocking most amendments that conservatives want to bring to the Senate floor. He is allowing approximately 1 amendment for every 2.7 amendments Republicans allowed when they last controlled the Senate. Two weeks ago Senator Reid unilaterally moved to change the Senate rules – the so-called “nuclear option” – to make it even more difficult for Senators to offer amendments.

Offering amendments, evaluating failed programs and advocating serious reforms should be the norm in Washington. Unfortunately, the Washington Establishment disagrees. Rather, they prefer bills to be drafted behind closed doors and have carefully scripted public hearings, markups and debates.

So it will not be surprising when Senator Paul’s courageous effort is met with scorn by the Washington Establishment. But remember, real conservatives don’t come to Washington to be popular; they come to Washington to save the American dream. When talking about Washington last week with a reporter, conservative freshman Representative Steve Southerland (R-FL) said, “I don’t like this place.” It is hard for any conservative to like Washington, which is dominated by Establishment interests that are almost always at odds with policies that promote freedom, opportunity and prosperity.

It would be easy for lawmakers to ignore Senator Harkin’s proposal; in fact, many will and that is exactly what the Washington Establishment wants. They want conservative lawmakers to decide it is not worth the fight. They want conservatives to fear being labeled “obstructionists” or “extremists.”

In fact, if you tune into C-SPAN 2 this week and watch the Senate floor you would never know there are two competing visions for America’s future. Instead, you will see a bipartisan collection of Senate leaders and appropriators who are cautiously optimistic they can avoid a fight and successfully guide a $128 billion spending bill through the Senate’s arcane legislative process.

Anytime a bipartisan group of appropriators say something is a good idea, Americans should be cautious. That bipartisan, “show we can govern mentality” is one of the reasons America’s debt is fast approaching $15 billion. Fortunately, Senator Paul is giving Americans reason for optimism, demonstrating the will to fight for our country’s future remains a top priority for some lawmakers in Washington.



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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 17, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/10/17/ron-pauls-economic-plan-cut-5-cabinet-agencies-cut-taxes-cut-presidents-pay/?mod=google_news_blog


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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2011, 11:08:23 PM
Interesting tidbit:  Baier to Ron Paul:  "Just for the record, you have appeared on Fox, since your announcement that you were running a total of 43 times and 70 times since January of 2011."

The rest of the interview: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/2011/10/27/age-ron-paul
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 11, 2011, 08:58:16 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2011, 10:53:15 AM
Ron Paul: U.S. In Denial That Country Is "Bankrupt" And "Insolvent"


"They don't want to hear what I have to say because I do challenge the status quo. The statue quo of both parties, and our foreign policy, and the policy of the Federal Reserve which serves a lot of powerful special interests, so maybe there is a concerted effort to make sure these views are circulated too widely," Paul said.

"The country, basically a lot of people still, as well as the politicians here, they're in denial. They don't realize we're technically bankrupt. We're insolvent. We can't pay the bills. The only thing that keeps us going is this illusion that our dollars will last forever and all we have to do is create new money, pay the bills and bail out Europe and everybody else. But that is coming to an end and that's what our financial crisis is telling us," Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) said on FOX News today.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/16/ron_paul_us_in_denial_that_country_is_technically_bankrupt_and_insolvent.html

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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2011, 12:19:15 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2011, 12:26:44 PM



Chris Matthews - Fucking idiot! 
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2011, 02:31:52 PM
Ron Paul is for real in Iowa. Seriously.
The Washington Post ^ | November 17, 2011 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:26:31 PM by Kurt Evans

Texas Rep. Ron Paul, long dismissed by the GOP establishment as a fringe candidate, has broadened his electoral appeal and emerged as a major player in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, according to several recent polls and conversations with a handful of longtime Hawkeye political operatives...

In a Bloomberg News survey — conducted by renowned Iowa-based pollster Ann Selzer — Paul was in a four-way statistical tie for first along with businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich...

And, in a new Iowa State/Gazette/KCRG survey, Paul took 20 percent — behind only Cain at 25 percent...

Paul is using the relatively uncluttered airwaves to tell a story of himself as a consistent champion of fiscal responsibility in a field of candidates that have not always hewed so closely to that mantra.

One ad attacks the inconsistencies of Cain, Romney and Perry on fiscal matters — TARP, economic stimulus — before cutting to Paul; “I’ve been talking about these problems for a long long time...now we’re bankrupt and we have to decide which way we’re going to go,” he says.

And, it’s not just Paul’s television ads that have blanketed the state. Sixty seven percent of those tested in the Bloomberg poll said they had been contacted by the Paul campaign via email, direct mail, telephone or someone coming directly to their door over the last year — the highest percentage for any candidate...

“We have a strong ground game in the state that is reaching out at a faster pace than any other campaign,” argued Trygve Olson, a Paul adviser...

“We are picking up support among social conservatives in Iowa -- particularly ones who believe our country’s fiscal situation is in serious peril,” noted Olson...


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Post by: Fury on November 17, 2011, 03:58:15 PM
Ron Paul: U.S. In Denial That Country Is "Bankrupt" And "Insolvent"


"They don't want to hear what I have to say because I do challenge the status quo. The statue quo of both parties, and our foreign policy, and the policy of the Federal Reserve which serves a lot of powerful special interests, so maybe there is a concerted effort to make sure these views are circulated too widely," Paul said.

"The country, basically a lot of people still, as well as the politicians here, they're in denial. They don't realize we're technically bankrupt. We're insolvent. We can't pay the bills. The only thing that keeps us going is this illusion that our dollars will last forever and all we have to do is create new money, pay the bills and bail out Europe and everybody else. But that is coming to an end and that's what our financial crisis is telling us," Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) said on FOX News today.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/16/ron_paul_us_in_denial_that_country_is_technically_bankrupt_and_insolvent.html



It's not just the US. Every Western country and even China are victims of this. Oh well, they'll get their rude awakening soon enough. I'm just curious as to how many people are going to end up getting killed in the ensuing aftermath.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2011, 08:59:11 PM
Ron Paul: GOP will be punished if it capitulates on tax increases
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2011-11-17 | Justin Sink
Posted on November 17, 2011 10:41:18 PM EST by rabscuttle385

Ron Paul says that Republicans will be punished if they do not hold the line against tax increases in the super-committee negotiations and argued that his campaign was well situated to challenge Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination in a radio interview with Sean Hannity Thursday.

"If we capitulate, they will punish the Republican Party," Paul said in response to questions about proposed tax increases. He also said that Republicans needed to be thinking more dramatically about reducing the federal deficit.

"Even if they cut a trillion dollars over the next couple of years from the baseline budget it doesn't mean anything," Paul said.

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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 18, 2011, 04:14:41 AM
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It's doubtful whether anyone opposes President Obama's health care law more than Ron Paul, but the Texas congressman said Wednesday that the sweeping legislation is not socialized medicine — contrary to claims made by his fellow presidential contenders Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain.

Instead, Mr. Paul called the Affordable Care Act “corporate medicine leading toward fascism,” insisting that his definition was much worse.

“It's not socialized medicine, but it's characteristic and creates the same things,” he said in comments before the Congressional Health Care Caucus, which invited him to speak on Capitol Hill.

“You always have shortages on socialized medicine, but you always have shortages when you have government intervention — like we do now.

“You keep the businessman involved, but the businessman makes a lot of profit and he's in bed [with] and gets protection from the government,” said Mr. Paul, one of a handful of doctors who serve in Congress. “That's not a very good alternative. They're both very bad and some of the bad aspects would overlap.”

Mr. Obama had originally hoped for a universal health care system where a public option would compete with private plans on insurance exchanges, but was forced to compromise when his plan appeared politically untenable.

While the final law dramatically expands Medicaid, it still depends on Americans obtaining private insurance plans through state-based exchanges.

Nonetheless, some candidates vociferously opposed to the overhaul — namely, Mrs. Bachmann and Mr. Cain — still say it's socialized medicine.

“In some socialized medicine countries, you can’t get a CAT scan in nine months, let alone an operation,” Mr. Cain said, speaking before the caucus two weeks ago. “We have the best health care system in the world. And ... if we allow this government sponsored socialized medicine approach to prevail, we will no longer have the best health care system in the world.”

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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 01:29:32 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-evangelicals-iowa-pastors-secret-meeting-11-2012

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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 04:56:06 PM



OWNED
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 05:14:11 PM
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Post by: outby43 on November 19, 2011, 06:08:27 PM
OWNED

Wow.

This is the Ron Paul people need to see on a live debate.  Hard to do within a 90 second time frame  :-\.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 19, 2011, 06:19:53 PM
Wow.

This is the Ron Paul people need to see on a live debate.  Hard to do within a 90 second time frame  :-\.

There is not one other person running, including Newt, who could have smacked down Kanjorski like Paul did here. 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on November 20, 2011, 10:07:42 PM
This is how I like seeing him. He doesnt allow himself to get pushed around and defends his position really well against the twisted versions of what he's stated in the past.

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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 21, 2011, 06:35:54 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 30, 2011, 03:02:49 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on November 30, 2011, 03:21:32 PM
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Post by: outby43 on December 01, 2011, 04:27:09 PM


Great ad.  Newt may sound good at the debates now but you have to look at past behavior to predict future behavior.  I would not be comfortable supporting him.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 03, 2011, 09:17:34 AM
Incredible speech.   I'm so glad i donated money to him to get elected.   



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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 03, 2011, 09:35:34 AM
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Post by: whork on December 03, 2011, 11:32:54 AM
Good stuff probably the 2 best and honest politicians we have

They need a party of their own they dont belong in either party and that a compliment
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 05, 2011, 10:36:01 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 05, 2011, 02:48:02 PM
Gingrich leads, but Paul most likely to beat Obama in latest Iowa poll
Daily Caller ^ | 12/5/11 | By C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 4:30:37 PM by Bokababe

...Against Paul, 42 percent of registered voters in Iowa support Obama and 43 percent support Paul. Paul’s popularity among independents could be a crucial advantage. Paul leads Obama 42 percent to 35 percent among independent voters, according to the poll, and he also attracts 15% of Iowa’s Democrats. Not to mention that 16 percent of voters were undecided....


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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 06, 2011, 07:20:36 AM
The Ron Paul Factor (Why he's surging even as others are stagnant or stumbling)
National Review ^ | 12/06/2011 | Robert Costa




Rep. Ron Paul rarely makes news, and his candidacy is frequently ignored by Beltway reporters. But headlines, his aides say, are overrated. In fact, the Texas Republican’s low-key autumn was strategic. As Paul’s competitors stumbled and sparred, he amassed a small fortune for his campaign and built a strong ground operation. And with January fast approaching, his team is ready to surprise the political world and sweep the Iowa caucuses.

“This was a movement when he first started running in 2008,” says Trygve Olson, a senior Paul adviser. “Now it’s turned into a highly professionalized campaign, but the energy from that last run is still there, and at the heart of what’s keeping up his momentum.”

The latest polls back up that confidence. In the influential Des Moines Register poll published over the weekend, Paul placed second. Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker, captured 25 percent of likely Iowa GOP voters, but Paul garnered 18 percent, two points ahead of Mitt Romney, who in 2008 placed second in the caucuses.

If Paul wins Iowa, the upset could upend what many politicos say is a two-man race between Gingrich and Romney. According to state GOP insiders, a Paul victory is a real possibility. In background conversations, many say Paul is much stronger than outside observers believe, with deep and wide support among a frustrated electorate. With Herman Cain’s departure from the race, operatives see Paul potentially collecting a quarter of caucus attendees.

“Ron Paul is definitely for real out here,” says Tim Albrecht, the communications director for Iowa governor Terry Branstad, who has not endorsed any GOP candidate. “He is going to get 18 percent in the caucuses no matter what. If there’s a snowstorm, he’ll probably win, since he has such dedicated, passionate supporters. The question is whether he can move higher than that.”

Paul, for his part, thinks that he can close in on Gingrich, who has seen a recent bump in both state and national polls. “We’re getting pretty close to it being within the margin of error,” Paul told CNN on Sunday. “I think we continue to do what we’re doing. We’ve had the flavors of the month up and down so far this campaign. I’d like to think of myself as the flavor of the decade.”

Indeed, Paul’s consistency, his strategists say, is integral to his strength, especially in Iowa, where GOP voters have shuffled through an array of favorites. “Iowans, after testing Bachmann, after testing Perry, after testing Cain, and now Gingrich, are realizing that Ron Paul, all along, has been their candidate,” says Fritz Wenzel, Paul’s pollster. Unlike many primary fights, “this is becoming a race about principles,” he says, “and Ron Paul has stood up for true conservative principles for decades, not just in the last month.”

But campaign strategy, of course, has also played a major role in sustaining Paul’s poll numbers. The campaign combines a strong online presence, centered on volunteer organization, with prolific fundraising. Perhaps more important, however, is Paul’s “traditional” strategy in Iowa, which combines a heavy candidate presence with constant mailings and outreach.

“He’s run the most traditional caucus campaign of the year,” Albrecht says. “Multiple mailers, multiple ads, and multiple visits. Rick Perry has run ads, but hasn’t really visited. Mitt Romney has taken the shy approach, and Newt Gingrich hasn’t been here as often.”

“We’re following the traditional model because it works,” says Drew Ivers, the campaign’s Iowa chairman. “This is the fifth time I’ve chaired an Iowa campaign, and in this state, you can’t beat grassroots politics. The caucuses are like a business meeting. You don’t just come and vote; you go to participate. You need committed supporters; we have them.”

Steve Grubbs, who recently worked as Herman Cain’s Iowa director, has seen the enthusiasm for Paul up close. “I was driving down Interstate 80 two weeks ago and saw a hitchhiker carrying a Ron Paul sign. I didn’t pick him up, but I’m sure a Paul supporter gave him a ride,” he says. “I spot them everywhere, wearing their T-shirts and carrying signs.”

You’ll also find thousands of Ron Paul backers on the web — on message boards and on social-networking sites — talking about Paul and his criticism of U.S. foreign policy and the Federal Reserve. As Paul’s team invests in the ground game, it is taking care to intertwine its above-ground legwork with that web world. And it’s paying off, his advisers say, not only through donations, but in building a cohesive network of voters. An early example of its power came in August, when Paul nearly won the Ames straw poll, finishing a close second to Michele Bachmann.

“Ron Paul’s Internet operation is to Republicans in 2012 what Barack Obama’s Internet operation was to Democrats in 2007 and 2008,” Olson says. “It’s very grassroots and national, with thousands of very active supporters who spread the message in every state. That energy is the undercurrent to what’s happening on the ground, where people are going person to person.”

Still, even with the top-tier showing in Iowa polls and recognition by Iowa operatives of their on-the-ground prowess, Paul’s advisers aren’t taking anything for granted. In coming weeks, “Ron Paul is going to be living part-time in Iowa,” says Dimitri Kesari, Paul’s deputy campaign manager. The entire focus will be on coordinating turnout and stoking enthusiasm. Over 500 college students, for example, will move to Iowa over the holidays to participate in an initiative called “Christmas Vacation with Ron Paul.”

“He’s a different kind of candidate,” Kesari acknowledges, a “highly organized outsider.” But in January, he could also be a winner. And Iowans, at least, wouldn’t be surprised.

— Robert Costa is a political reporter for National Review.



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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 08, 2011, 08:38:18 PM
Ron Paul Has A Major Secret Weapon To Win The Republican Race
Grace Wyler    | Dec. 8, 2011, 9:40 PM | 4,828 | 37
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While the rest of us have been distracted by the boom-and-bust campaigns of 2012, oft-forgotten presidential candidate Ron Paul has been quietly picking up steam, and putting together formidable campaign operation that is now poised to shakeup the Republican race.
Sure, Paul may still be a longshot to win the nomination. But he has one thing going for him that his rivals do not: The love of America's youth.
At 76, Paul may be the oldest candidate in the race, but he is the only one who consistently appeals to young voters, an elusive but energetic voting bloc that likes Paul's unorthodox, small-government message.
The latest polls bear out this claim. In a new CNN/Time poll of GOP voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, Paul comes in third place in all three states. But his polling numbers jump by nearly half among voters under 50, while support for the frontrunners, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, stays stagnant, or even drops slightly.
Paul's support is even stronger among the youngest voters — the latest Granite State poll found Paul in first among New Hampshire primary voters under 35, with 32%, and whopping 56% of those voters said they had a favorable view of Paul.
The Paul campaign has effectively harnessed this support, building up a massive ground operation of energetic young voters who are eager to spread Paul's unorthodox gospel. Since September, the campaign's Youth for Ron Paul initiative has amassed more than 15,000 volunteers in 307 chapters nationwide.

The campaign is kicking its youth outreach into high gear for a final push before voting starts. Paul will host two big campus rallies in Iowa this week, and later this month, 500 college kids will descend on Iowa and New Hampshire to canvass for Paul during their Christmas vacations.

(To qualify to "Spend Christmas Vacation With Ron Paul," applicants had to fill out an online questionnaire agreeing or disagreeing with statements like "after a complete audit of the Federal Reserve, the Fed should be abolished," and "cannabis should be legalized for recreational use.")

To be sure, young voters are not as dependable as older ones, and it is not guaranteed that Paul's young followers will actually show up on election day. But if these young converts do turn out, especially in Iowa, they could change the game for the Republican race.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 12, 2011, 08:17:44 PM
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Ron Paul is striking chords with Iowa GOP voters
Miami Herald ^ | Monday, 12.12.11 | DAVID LIGHTMAN
Posted on December 12, 2011 8:06:42 PM EST by americanophile

WAVERLY, Iowa -- Iowa Republican voters are taking Ron Paul very seriously.

So seriously, in fact, that few would be surprised if he finished a strong second - or even won - the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses.

The 76-year-old Texas congressman's potential is evident in recent statewide polls that show him in or near second place, trailing former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich and in a virtual tie with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Paul's strength is also apparent anecdotally - he draws big, diverse crowds, like one recently in this small northeastern Iowa town.

People in the audience at the community library last week shoehorned themselves into the meeting room, listening intently to the libertarian Republican presidential candidate, as have people in meeting halls and college auditoriums all over the state.

They were sympathetic to his no-frills message of dramatically smaller government and a scaled-back foreign policy - a message he's long preached, but one that now has wide mainstream appeal. And they appreciate how he's engaging Gingrich, accusing the front-runner of "serial hypocrisy."

Paul draws no big cheers; his audiences are serious and polite. They applauded in Waverly when he told them that the U.S. government can't possibly continue spending at its current pace because the world economy is on the brink of chaos.

"The solution is that we have to decide what we want from our government," Paul said.

Paul is attracting three kinds of Iowa voters.

There's his cadre of longtime supporters, who helped him finish fifth with 10 percent in Iowa in 2008. And this year two other types of voters have joined the Paul army: Young people, and those simply fed up with the government and eager for drastic change.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/new_hampshire/election_2012_new_hampshire_republican_primary



Awesome - closing in on newt and romney.   
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2011, 12:43:44 PM
Ron Paul can surge against Newt Romney
By Brent Budowsky - 12/13/11 02:34 PM ET


http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/199119-ron-paul-can-surge-against-newt-romney



 
There is one issue that can enable Ron Paul to break above his current threshold with great appeal to a wider electorate and make a frontal challenge to the candidates Michele Bachmann (I always give fair credit) brilliantly labeled Newt Romney. This issue is this:

Crony capitalism.

Dr. Paul has spoken eloquently and brilliantly about the corruptions in the economy from those with the power to use political weapons to seek unfair economic advantage. Dr. Paul and I will not fundamentally agree on many aspects of policy, but we do agree on the need to lessen the influence of crony capitalists.



Newt Romney offers different sides of the crony-capitalist coin. One makes a fortune of wealth from Freddie Mac; the other makes a fortune of wealth from insider deals that lead to mass layoffs and in several cases bankruptcies. When Newt attacks Romney, and Romney attacks Newt, they are basically right about each other.

I have similarly criticized the mother of all crony capitalists in this campaign, Rick Perry, whose pay-for-play politics in Texas are legendary.

For Dr. Paul, making crony capitalism itself a major issue would be powerful because it unites a majority of Republican voters against the what we call Newt Romney.

I have also called for some form of alliance on matters of common interest between Ron Paul and Occupy Wall Street.

I am currently in the process of thinking through some new ideas and strategies against crony capitalism for future Pundits Blogs and an upcoming column in the fairly near future.

I would welcome any links and comments from Ron Paul supporters about quotes from him, and ideas he may have, which I will factor into ideas and columns. In advance I thank those of you who help.

As we go into Iowa, Ron Paul has a chance to win the caucus, and he has a chance to come in a strong second.

In Iowa and beyond, Ron Paul has an opening to be the one true champion of opposing crony capitalism, which could be the next stage in the Ron Paul surge and his frontal assault against Newt Romney.



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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2011, 05:49:03 AM
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 14, 2011, 08:14:10 PM
I'm gonna be on the tonight show this Friday night with @RonPaul!! #WOOT!!

http://twitter.com/#!/joerogan/statu...13995141840896

Joe has a big following and he has endoresed RP. This is going to be good.  ;D

Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2011, 08:18:09 PM
I'm gonna be on the tonight show this Friday night with @RonPaul!! #WOOT!!

http://twitter.com/#!/joerogan/statu...13995141840896

Joe has a big following and he has endoresed RP. This is going to be good.  ;D




Awesome!!!!   Post the damn link bro!!! 
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 14, 2011, 08:25:05 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2011, 08:28:24 PM


is that you? 
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 14, 2011, 08:28:31 PM

Awesome!!!!   Post the damn link bro!!! 

I will post the youtube after the broadcast
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 14, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
is that you? 

lol
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2011, 08:31:24 PM
I will post the youtube after the broadcast

Awesome.   My Thick Nu Yawk Accent would probably turn people off. 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 07:38:25 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 09:00:00 AM
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Post by: outby43 on December 15, 2011, 04:45:19 PM
^^^^^

AWESOME
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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 15, 2011, 05:34:27 PM


lol, pretty much sums it up.

On the topic of the media, check this out.


CIA Funding and Manipulation of the U.S. News Media

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Post by: Soul Crusher on December 23, 2011, 06:39:40 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 12, 2012, 01:39:20 PM
This Is What A Real Fiscal Conservative Looks Like
Michael Brendan Dougherty | Jan. 12, 2012, 4:17 PM | 149 | 2


 
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul refused to spend $500,000 that was available to him as a Senator for an "office budget" and returned it to the Treasury Department today. 

Politico has the story:

“I ran to stop the reckless spending. And I ran to end the damaging process of elected officials acting as errand boys, competing to see who could bring back the biggest check and the most amount of pork,” Paul said at a news conference in Louisville, where he presented taxpayers with a massive mock check for $500,000.

Finally a fiscal conservative that actually practices what he preaches!

In any case, this is a small story but people are going to try and find a way to criticize Rand Paul for what he did. They'll say, "He refused to take Federal funds and create jobs with them." Or "His office could have been even better staffed to handle problems that constituents bring to it."

This is, as Newt Gingrich might say, pious baloney.

Most American families have been forced to figure out how to do more with less, or how to do less altogether. It's nice to see a Senator joining us.



Read more:

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-what-a-real-fiscal-conservative-looks-like-2012-1#ixzz1jHZ95I2z
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2012, 06:23:19 PM
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Hate Ron Paul? Blame the establishment
The Daily Caller ^ | 1/16/12 | James Poulos
Posted on January 16, 2012 8:52:12 PM EST by traviskicks

He has a solid, unshakeable base. His poll numbers are rising, not sinking. He hasn’t had to go negative. He hasn’t had to deliver a speech to get past his newsletter-induced Reverend Wright moment.

Oh, and one other thing: he’s in this race ’til the finish line.

His name is Ron Paul, and you have the establishment to thank for his shocking march from the margins to something almost mainstream.

In retrospect, at least, there’s really nothing shocking about it. At every step, he has been boosted up and pushed forward by the horrendous failure of the establishment to remove the real-life conditions that heighten his appeal.

Some of these failings, and their great power, have begun to inspire pieces of commentary unthinkable even two years ago.

Says Charles Krauthammer of his position in the GOP: “regardless of my feelings or yours, the plain fact is that Paul is nurturing his movement toward visibility and legitimacy.”

Says Mark Steyn of his foreign policy: “deploring it is an inadequate response to a faction that is likely to emerge with the second-highest number of delegates at the GOP convention.”

Says Glenn Greenwald of his embarrassment of the left: “Ron Paul’s candidacy is a mirror held up in front of the face of America’s Democratic Party and its progressive wing, and the image that is reflected is an ugly one; more to the point, it’s one they do not want to see because it so violently conflicts with their desired self-perception.”

All true. Yet in the minds of many, inside and outside the Beltway, the particulars of Paulmentum continue to taint the phenomenon with more than a whiff of illegitimacy. There is the newsletter issue. There are the associations with conspiracy-mongering. There is the almost wickedly gleeful hawk-baiting on the subject of Iran. There are the legions of Paul fans, on the Internet and in meatspace, whose enthusiasm borders on the berserk, and sometimes more than borders.

These things inspire something more dangerous than fear in the hearts of elites (and of normal people who can’t quite bear the thought of deciding to comprehensively reject the elites’ global leadership). They inspire contempt.

Natural a reaction as it may be for some, contempt for Paul, his supporters, and his sympathizers is so dangerous because it reinforces the sense that the response of the establishment elite to the global economic crisis should leave only a crazy person feeling worse than ever about the U.S. and the world.

After all, the establishment makes an apparently compelling case that, even if you hate some things about the way the post-crisis world is shaking out, you ought to thank your deity of choice that we even have a world to hate on. Barack Obama is not the only one to insist, in so many words, that the establishment saved the human race from a total financial meltdown. Surely you tinfoil hat people could set your overactive imaginations racing with visions of the apocalyptic nightmare that would have entailed. Now where’re the thanks?

Well, there’s just one problem. The establishment elite managed to forestall Armageddon by intensifying the conditions that led to the colossal crisis in the first place. Some say they did this by choice; others say they were forced to do it. The motives don’t matter half as much as the outcome: a financial system more concentrated than before 2008; a political system more dysfunctional; an executive branch more powerful; a federal government possessed of more money, greater reach, and broader authority; and promises of even more to come.

One objection to the picture you are no doubt beginning to form in your head is that, this time, they got it right. This is actually a nontrivial claim. Surely you remember doing something insanely irresponsible and knowing in a flash (miraculous survival!) that you’d never be so carelessly stupid as to try that again. Give the establishment the benefit of the doubt.

But the benefit of the doubt doesn’t matter either. Again, look at the outcome: an increase in the level of risk of total system collapse, courtesy of the intensified factors that led to 2008.

Surely the old military adage holds true, though, that the safest place to hide from an incoming artillery shell is in the crater blown open by the last one? Unfortunately, the ground is shifting beneath us. The international situation, with its complexly interdependent political, economic, financial, and religious variables, is deep into a period of extreme volatility, and getting deeper.

Put differently, we are carrying a Jenga into a moon bounce, with the role of the Jenga being played by civilization as we know it.

The intuition of an “inadequate response” at this order of magnitude is the animating spirit behind the Paul phenomenon. It’s correct to note that Paul’s foundational emphasis on liberty is central to his success, but not enough thought is being put into why the liberty pitch is working.

Answer? Because the logic of liberty offers an alternative structural response to the foreboding risk calculus exacerbated by the establishment’s answer to 2008. Dispersing political authority, and the financial power that concentrates around it, makes for a game much different from Jenga.

Back in June, in my first column in these pages, I advised that a new world disorder would be blunted in the U.S. because of the deep and well-dispersed cultural and historical resources uniquely found among Americans at such a scale. As a whole, our establishment elites have proven unable so far to craft a response to the ongoing global predicament that will not minimize what advantages the American people do enjoy should a new crisis indeed transpire.

Given the apparent likelihood of a fresh crisis event, and given how our post-crisis system is structured to cascade disruptions toward catastrophe, the somewhat out-of-left-field logic of liberty advanced by Paul seems to be striking a growing number of Americans — not just on the right — as something less of a gamble.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 01:10:59 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 01:12:57 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 01:28:57 PM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 01:34:40 PM
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Post by: andreisdaman on January 30, 2012, 08:35:31 PM
Awesome.   My Thick Nu Yawk Accent would probably turn people off. 

actually its your faggotry that turns people off
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: andreisdaman on January 30, 2012, 08:36:51 PM
Rand Paul is a fag
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 08:42:12 PM
Rand Paul is a fag

He is married w kids you 95 welfare food stamp thug! 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: andreisdaman on January 30, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
He is married w kids you 95 welfare food stamp thug!  

I don't mean a fag in practice but in spirit..just as you are
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 30, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
I don't mean a fag in practice but in spirit..just as you are

What makes Rand a fag as opposed to ghettothugbama and Larry sinclaire who said he gave a bj to Obama in a limo? 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 31, 2012, 10:27:41 AM
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Post by: andreisdaman on January 31, 2012, 09:59:19 PM
What makes Rand a fag as opposed to ghettothugbama and Larry sinclaire who said he gave a bj to Obama in a limo? 

where did you get that?....hahahah..you never cease to amaze me with the bullshit you find on the web!!!...I think giving blowjobs in the back of a limo is actually YOUR fantasy
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Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2012, 07:01:36 PM
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Ron Paul has never looked happier.
BI ^ | February 1 2012 | Grace Wyler
Posted on February 1, 2012 10:10:47 PM EST by GlockThe Vote

Grace Wyler/Business Insider LAS VEGAS — It turns out Ron Paul is quite the romantic. The usually all-business candidate interrupted a press conference on the economy this afternoon to surprise his wife Carol with a huge bouquet of flowers — and a big hug — to celebrate their 55th wedding anniversary. It was a surprisingly candid moment of marital bliss, particularly for a political event. Mrs. Paul seemed genuinely surprised by the gift, and her husband was clearly elated that he had pulled off the trick. He was practically blushing. Unlike a lot of political wives, Mrs. Paul has taken a hands-off approach to her husband's career. Although she usually travels with the campaign, she rarely plays a role in his events. So it was a surprise when Paul led her to the podium to say a few words: "This is quite a surprise, I didn't know I'd be part of the press conference today," Mrs. Paul said. "But I am glad to be here today, it is exciting to celebrate 55 years of marriage. I couldn't be happier. Ron's always done everything right, and I have to follow along because of that."

Paul stood close behind her as she spoke, beaming from ear-to-ear, and touched her back lovingly when her last line drew a little laugh from the audience. Even the most cynical MSM reporters were melting in their seats.

Flowers weren't the only surprise Mrs. Paul got today. The candidate told reporters that he had let his wife sleep in this morning and ordered breakfast to arrive when she woke up.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...







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Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 01, 2012, 07:03:22 PM
Happy 55th RP. wow. That doesnt happen much these days.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2012, 07:05:33 PM
Happy 55th RP. wow. That doesnt happen much these days.

I am in many fights on FR over RP.    the average GOP hack makes me sick to my stomach.  What a bunch of brainwashed idiots.   

Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 01, 2012, 07:17:38 PM
I am in many fights on FR over RP.    the average GOP hack makes me sick to my stomach.  What a bunch of brainwashed idiots.   




FR? Sorry, Im drawing a blank for some reason.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 01, 2012, 07:35:57 PM

FR? Sorry, Im drawing a blank for some reason.

free republic.   It's probably the most populated site for repubs and conserves out there.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on February 07, 2012, 08:26:10 PM
Great fix,ing speech tonight!   

RP - drop the da,n Mr. Rogers sweater, get a fucling good looking suit, groom yourself , and attack Obama damnit! 
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 07, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Great fix,ing speech tonight!   

RP - drop the da,n Mr. Rogers sweater, get a fucling good looking suit, groom yourself , and attack Obama damnit! 

I haven't checked it out. Too pissed.
Title: Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
Post by: andreisdaman on February 07, 2012, 09:52:09 PM
free republic.   It's probably the most populated site for repubs and conserves out there.

sounds like a homo meeting site
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Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2012, 06:00:41 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2012, 03:57:15 AM
 ;)

Just voted in NYS Primary
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Post by: Shockwave on April 24, 2012, 05:48:24 AM
;)

Just voted in NYS Primary
Que 240's excuses
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 21, 2013, 07:27:23 PM
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/05/21/rand_paul_my_colleagues_just_voted_to_arm_the_allies_of_al_qaeda




This is obamas megs scandal ready to explode
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Post by: Soul Crusher on May 27, 2013, 07:19:55 PM
Rand Paul: Senate Is Arming Al-Qaeda and Rushing to War in Syria
New American ^ | Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.
Posted on May 27, 2013 11:30:17 AM EDT by IbJensen

“This is an important moment. You will be funding, today, the allies of al Qaeda.”

That was the declaration Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.; pictured) made on May 21 during a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Paul’s comments were directed at his colleagues, nearly all of whom voted to send arms to Syrian rebels.

Senators Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) co-sponsored the bill that authorizes “critical support to the Syrian opposition through provision of military assistance, training, and additional humanitarian support.”

The bill sailed through the committee, passing with bipartisan support by a vote of 15-3.

Senator Paul offered two amendments to the bill — officially styled the Syria Transition Support Act — one that would have forbidden the transfer of weapons to the rebel forces fighting to oust the government of current Syrian president Bashar al-Asad, and another that would have prevented the use of U.S. military armed forces in Syria.

Both of Paul’s amendments were rejected by the committee.

Apart from supplying lethal and non-lethal weaponry to Syrian opposition forces, the Menendez-Corker bill contains several other regime-toppling provisions, all of which are boastfully reported by Mendendez on his website. They include:

• “Creation of a $250 million transition fund each year through FY2015 drawn from funds otherwise appropriated for regional transition support”;

• “Sanctions on arms and oil sales to Assad: Targeting any person that the President of the United States determines has knowingly participated in or facilitated a transaction related to the sale or transfer of military equipment, arms, petroleum, or petroleum products to the Assad regime.”; and

• “Amendment to the Syria Accountability Act: To allow for sanctions removal once a transitional government is in place and certain terrorism and WMD criteria have been met.”

Neither Paul’s warnings nor his amendments were enough to counteract the powerful politicians pushing to arm the Syrian rebels. A cadre of lawmakers from seemingly distinct bands of the political spectrum lined up behind the move to add Syria to the list of Middle Eastern countries with U.S.-approved ruling parties. As in the case of Iraq and Afghanistan, these dictators-in-waiting will walk a path to power paved with American money and likely covered in the blood of American soldiers.

Rubio, described by many as a Tea Party favorite, chastised Senator Paul, refuting his allegation that a vote for arming the Syrian rebels was tantamount to giving guns to al-Qaeda.

"I don't think any member of this committee would vote for anything we thought was going to arm al Qaeda," said Rubio.

Mendendez piled on, saying, "Al Qaeda, unfortunately, is well-armed. That is the present reality in Syria."

Senator Corker tried striking a less hostile tone, arguing that arming rebels vetted by Congress — as called for in his bill — would prevent U.S. weaponry from being funneled into more radical segments of the coalition of anti-Asad armed forces.

Seing through Corker’s false dilemma, Paul responded, saying, “It’s impossible to know who our friends are.” He later said that the vote was nothing more than a “rush to war.”

In an exclusive interview with The New American, Senator Paul pointed out the irony in the fact that the original Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) enacted after September 11, 2001 called for finding and destroying al-Qaeda, while the legislation passed on May 21 by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee would arm known associates of that very organization.

“These people [Syrian rebels] will say they love America knowing that that’s how to get weapons. They lie to us and then shoot us in the back,” Paul explained.

Another bit of irony apparently lost on 15 members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is the fact that the United States has walked this road before. In the 1980s, Congress voted to arm militant Islamic forces under the pretext that the enemy of our enemy was our friend. Then, within 20 years, the very beneficiaries of U.S. military largesse in Afghanistan seized control of that country and reportedly sheltered and trained the men who carried out the attacks of September 11.

One wonders how (or if) the Senate fails to appreciate the destruction that will surely come from once again sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind that comes from arming those who would do us harm. Some senators, however, seemed determined to deploy troops in every corner of the planet, regardless of the fact these young men and women could be killed by militants armed with weapons supplied by their very own government.

Never one to miss a chance to take his turn banging on the war drum, Senator John McCain mocked an amendment offered by Senator Tom Udall (D-N.M.) that would have placed more stringent controls on the type of weapon shipped to Syrian rebels.

"The senator from New Mexico wants to use shotguns against SCUD missiles," McCain said.

Rand Paul has been banging another drum, however. During the hearings on the attack on the American mission in Benghazi, Libya, Paul brought up the possibility that the Obama administration was covering up the existence of a gun running pipeline running throughout the Middle East.

Paul, in fact, tried to get answers to these questions from then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the Senate’s investigation of the Benghazi raid that left four people dead, including U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens. Addressing Secretary Clinton, Paul asked directly, “Is the U. S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?”

Clinton demurred, claiming that she’d never heard about that allegation.

Undaunted, Paul continued, “It’s been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that may have weapons, and what I’d like to know is the annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, any countries, Turkey included?”

Always the savvy politician, Clinton responded, “Well, Senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I will see what information is available.”

“You’re saying you don’t know?” asked Paul.

“I do not know,” Clinton said. “I don’t have any information on that.”

Americans have a right to know, however, who’s receiving millions in tax dollars taken from them.

A Reuters article from last August, which detailed a secret order signed by President Obama providing support to Syrian rebel forces opposing the regime of Bashar al-Assad, noted, “Recent news reports from the region have suggested that the influence and numbers of Islamist militants, some of them connected to al Qaeda or its affiliates, have been growing among Assad's opponents.”

Later, The New American covered the same story, writing that “Western governments, brutal Sunni-Arab dictatorships, an assortment of terror groups including al-Qaeda, and other powerful interests have all been backing the uprising since long before violence even broke out last year.”

In a story covering the violence of the Syrian uprising, the BBC added credibility to the accusations:

The al-Qaeda-styled group in Syria is Jabhat al-Nusra li-Ahl al-Sham (the Front for the Protection of the Syrian People).

Like other al-Qaeda affiliated groups, al-Nusra's statements and videos are usually issued by its own media group, al-Manara al-Baida (the White Minaret) in Syria.

Al-Nusra has claimed responsibility for several attacks against the Syrian army, security and shabiha (state-sponsored thugs) since it announced its formation early this year.

Finally, under a headline reading "Al-Qaida turns tide for rebels in battle for eastern Syria,” the Guardian (U.K.) reported:

They try to hide their presence. "Some people are worried about carrying the  flags," said Abu Khuder. "They fear America will come and fight us. So we fight in secret. Why give Bashar and the west a pretext?" But their existence is common knowledge in Mohassen. Even passers-by joke with the men about car bombs and IEDs [improvised explosive devices].

According to Abu Khuder, his men are working closely with the military council that commands the Free Syrian Army brigades in the region. "We meet almost every day," he said. "We have clear instructions from our [al-Qaida] leadership that if the FSA need our help we should give it. We help them with IEDs and car bombs. Our main talent is in the bombing operations." Abu Khuder's men had a lot of experience in bomb-making from Iraq and elsewhere, he added.

Regardless of Rand Paul’s efforts to keep the U.S. from running headlong into an armed conflict in Syria and his accurate depiction of the duplicity of those Syrian opposition forces waiting for the shipment of weapons from the United States, the Senate is speedily moving toward awarding al-Qaeda with crates of technologically advanced U.S. weaponry.