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When's the best time for me to take my Riptropin!?
Oh and hi, I been on these boards way before a lot of you kids, just made an account.
GO!
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before sleep
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That seems to be what the studies recommend too, if I'm correct though, GH15 says first thing in the morning...
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That seems to be what the studies recommend too, if I'm correct though, GH15 says first thing in the morning...
If you can afford a high dose take it throughout the day
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When's the best time for me to take my Riptropin!?
Oh and hi, I been on these boards way before a lot of you kids, just made an account.
GO!
It doesn't matter, if you got real GH it's gonna work regardless. That being said I would take it first thing in the morning.
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Never done Riptropin so I plan on starting at 3 iu's a day but maybe when I work up to 6iu's I'll break it in two maybe?
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ok Claymore, why do you say morning? Personal experience? You got studies of your own? You enjoy injecting a shot before you have your eggs? Explain please
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If you can afford a high dose take it throughout the day
problem with that is having high igf-1 levels, you don't want them too high because igf grows EVERYTHING..Including heart muscle..I was shocked at the number of threads I've read from guys who have heart valve problems directly from high doses of GH.
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problem with that is having high igf-1 levels, you don't want them too high because igf grows EVERYTHING..Including heart muscle..I was shocked at the number of threads I've read from guys who have heart valve problems directly from high doses of GH.
So you think if taking a high dose its best to maybe spit it into 2 shots, one in AM the other in PM?
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BIG DUB
I'm sure these people with heart problems were doing 8 iu's in the morning and 8 iu's at night though. It's like everything else, get crazy and here comes the serious sides.
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problem with that is having high igf-1 levels, you don't want them too high because igf grows EVERYTHING..Including heart muscle..I was shocked at the number of threads I've read from guys who have heart valve problems directly from high doses of GH.
maybe you should just kill yourself in order not to die from scary things.
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From everything I have heard your natural GH levels are highest when you go to sleep so don't waste it then. First thing in the morning worked best for me
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From everything I have heard your natural GH levels are highest when you go to sleep so don't waste it then. First thing in the morning worked best for me
I was thinking the same thing until I saw this thread...
http://www.bodyofscience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5287&page=2
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So you think if taking a high dose its best to maybe spit it into 2 shots, one in AM the other in PM?
Igf-1 takes about half a day after your shot to peak so taking it multiple times per day only leads to the same result. higher and higher igf-1 levels. I look at it this way. What is a high normal igf-1 value. Then I take an amout of gh that lines up with that, in one shot only since again it takes about half a day to peak igf-1. Taking it at night allows for peak levels to be present 8-12 hours later when you should be training and shortly thereafter. Also taking it multiple times per day can lead to insulin resistance since Gh is counter regulatory to insulin. ie. You wont absorb carbs well enough.
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maybe you should just kill yourself in order not to die from scary things.
Maybe i shouldn't. ;)
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Here's part of that article for those interested
Am use of GH is a very good time but not when you wake up for breakfast as the longer the delay before eating the more fatburning you get this is down to the interaction that carbs has on the fatburning process not the amount of cortisol you suppress whilst on the subject how much do you suppress?, as for the night output of GH and you assuming it is 1iu what for everyone? or is this a guess...
now overall GH will be suppressed but this is down to how Gh is administered many like you believe that if you take GH at night you suppress the Gh output at night this is not true in fact injecting at night will not effect the nightly GH output but injecting it in the AM will here is an article about GH timings......it has been cliff noted but you can look up the article if you so wish.
HGH - timing and general issues - interesting findings
Hi guys, just tought I would share some info. I've gone through some research articles on hgh and found one article of particular interest:
"Exogenous 20K Growth Hormone (GH) Suppresses Endogenous 22K GH Secretion in Normal Men" Y. Hashimoto et al. 2000
It is of special interest since the experiment was done on 32 HEALTHY adults aged 20-31.
OK, the key findings which contradicts much of the hype around hgh:
*Exogenous hgh administration (sc) will not supress endogenous hgh production before 4 hours after administartion.
*IGF levels will raise slowly in 12 hours after administartion and then raise rapidly and reach a peak about 24 hours after administration.
*Exogenous hgh administration will supress endogenous hgh prduction for about 24 hours. This did even occur at small doses of 1-2iu a day.
*HGH is very dose dependant. A 10iu dose will give a ten fold increase in peak concentration levels of both hgh and igf-1. Also a bigger dose will not increase the supression time or peak times.
In regard to timining of hgh injections this would mean that the best time to inject your hgh is just before you go to sleep. That way you will still get your largest endogenous pulse, which accours about 2 hours after you go to sleep, and when that pulse is over, a little later in about 4 hours you hgh levelse will reach another peak from the hgh administration. The supression of your own hgh will be finished by the time you do your next injection the day after at the same time, so you will still get the deep sleep pulse the night after.
By taking your shots am you will supress all endogenous production of hgh the following nigth. Forget thinking that going up taking your shot 4am or 7am will help you not supress your own production, you will be shut down for 24 hours.
By doing several injections each day like am/afternoon you will shut down your own production completly(if you do ed shots)
The results also contradicts the theory of the hgh 3x blasting method popular for mass gaining. The key there is to maximize igf levels after training,
taking your shots pwo. The shots is supposed to be taken IM. Well first IM shots is not absorbed as good as sc shots, and you will get a somewhat better peak in concetration levels but a somewhat faster half-life time.
Anyway your igf levels will not peak before at least somewhere between 12-24 hours later and the whole dose will be less absorbed. The insulin levelse from your IM slin shot pwo will in no way have any synergy with a pwo hgh shot, because of the delayed increase in igf-1 levels. If you train mon-wed-fri with the 3x blast method your igf levels-1 will be at top the day after when your not training. It's quite important to see the difference between hgh peak time and igf peak time from hgh administration, as their are very different.
All in all bearing in mind that endogenous hgh production in healthy adults range from 0,5-1,5iu daily(I think), it is not that much you loose from beeing completly shut down. But even at larger doses of up to 10iu it should still be no loss of effect to take your hgh dose in one shot. If you take it before bed you igf levels will increase stadily the day after and be in high concetration when you train in the afternoon or evening.
All this assumptions are based on the article mentioned and there could ofcourse be other exmperiments showing different results, but at least this article have 16 citations(meaning that 16 other researchers have used the results from this article in their own articles)
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Here's part of that article for those interested
Am use of GH is a very good time but not when you wake up for breakfast as the longer the delay before eating the more fatburning you get this is down to the interaction that carbs has on the fatburning process not the amount of cortisol you suppress whilst on the subject how much do you suppress?, as for the night output of GH and you assuming it is 1iu what for everyone? or is this a guess...
now overall GH will be suppressed but this is down to how Gh is administered many like you believe that if you take GH at night you suppress the Gh output at night this is not true in fact injecting at night will not effect the nightly GH output but injecting it in the AM will here is an article about GH timings......it has been cliff noted but you can look up the article if you so wish.
HGH - timing and general issues - interesting findings
Hi guys, just tought I would share some info. I've gone through some research articles on hgh and found one article of particular interest:
"Exogenous 20K Growth Hormone (GH) Suppresses Endogenous 22K GH Secretion in Normal Men" Y. Hashimoto et al. 2000
It is of special interest since the experiment was done on 32 HEALTHY adults aged 20-31.
OK, the key findings which contradicts much of the hype around hgh:
*Exogenous hgh administration (sc) will not supress endogenous hgh production before 4 hours after administartion.
*IGF levels will raise slowly in 12 hours after administartion and then raise rapidly and reach a peak about 24 hours after administration.
*Exogenous hgh administration will supress endogenous hgh prduction for about 24 hours. This did even occur at small doses of 1-2iu a day.
*HGH is very dose dependant. A 10iu dose will give a ten fold increase in peak concentration levels of both hgh and igf-1. Also a bigger dose will not increase the supression time or peak times.
In regard to timining of hgh injections this would mean that the best time to inject your hgh is just before you go to sleep. That way you will still get your largest endogenous pulse, which accours about 2 hours after you go to sleep, and when that pulse is over, a little later in about 4 hours you hgh levelse will reach another peak from the hgh administration. The supression of your own hgh will be finished by the time you do your next injection the day after at the same time, so you will still get the deep sleep pulse the night after.
By taking your shots am you will supress all endogenous production of hgh the following nigth. Forget thinking that going up taking your shot 4am or 7am will help you not supress your own production, you will be shut down for 24 hours.
By doing several injections each day like am/afternoon you will shut down your own production completly(if you do ed shots)
The results also contradicts the theory of the hgh 3x blasting method popular for mass gaining. The key there is to maximize igf levels after training,
taking your shots pwo. The shots is supposed to be taken IM. Well first IM shots is not absorbed as good as sc shots, and you will get a somewhat better peak in concetration levels but a somewhat faster half-life time.
Anyway your igf levels will not peak before at least somewhere between 12-24 hours later and the whole dose will be less absorbed. The insulin levelse from your IM slin shot pwo will in no way have any synergy with a pwo hgh shot, because of the delayed increase in igf-1 levels. If you train mon-wed-fri with the 3x blast method your igf levels-1 will be at top the day after when your not training. It's quite important to see the difference between hgh peak time and igf peak time from hgh administration, as their are very different.
All in all bearing in mind that endogenous hgh production in healthy adults range from 0,5-1,5iu daily(I think), it is not that much you loose from beeing completly shut down. But even at larger doses of up to 10iu it should still be no loss of effect to take your hgh dose in one shot. If you take it before bed you igf levels will increase stadily the day after and be in high concetration when you train in the afternoon or evening.
All this assumptions are based on the article mentioned and there could ofcourse be other exmperiments showing different results, but at least this article have 16 citations(meaning that 16 other researchers have used the results from this article in their own articles)
Who wrote this piece? Much of this I've said for years on here. Wrong here though:
The supression of your own hgh will be finished by the time you do your next injection the day after at the same time, so you will still get the deep sleep pulse the night after.
This is not the case when doing it every day. Can't draw this conclusion based on data from one isolated injection.
Not that this micromanaging matters much though. Just take the damn drug. The more you take the more effects you get.
Anyway, are you selling Riptropin? Looks like shilling thread to me.
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haha look at the animal i found guys
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continuous IV
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haha imagine that thing is swimming to you under water
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No I'm not selling Riptropin, I mention it so you guys know which brand, and hell, if you think it's shit tell me.
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It doesn't matter, if you got real GH it's gonna work regardless. That being said I would take it first thing in the morning.
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Again, another morning person with no explanation! Guess I'll be doing the night time
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No I'm not selling Riptropin, I mention it so you guys know which brand, and hell, if you think it's shit tell me.
ok, are you ordering online or have a local hook up? cuanto cuestan?
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Friend of a friend type deal. 250 per kit, there's a generic brand they're selling for 200 per kit that's made in China. No online buying because GH15 says so
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bump
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It doesn't matter when you take it. Accept the bro knowledge and move on
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Friend of a friend type deal. 250 per kit, there's a generic brand they're selling for 200 per kit that's made in China. No online buying because GH15 says so
I would go with the higher price one, all things being equal.