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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: superman.cd on March 17, 2011, 03:32:47 PM
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I have read on a couple sites that some people take up to 9 weeks to respond to enanthate. Is this true or were they just not eating. I personally do not respond well to dbol so i was looking forward to my enanthate. Tell me it isn't true. End of week four today and up about 10 pounds from the bol and strength is still going up, but that might be due to calories and intense training! What is your enanthate kick in time?
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Depends on alot. Diet. Training. Weekly mg ur taking. Experience. Me personally I start seeing it around 4 weeks
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if it takes 9 weeks it's probably just oil. 4 weeks is average.
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500 a week, 250 mon and thurs, and at least 3800 cals a day. 6'2 205. My lifts and weight have jumped, but thats because i hadn't lifted for two months since i quit the last time and my ol lady left and i went off the deep end and just drank and didn't eat or do shit. Then, when i got my gear day one of lifting, diet, and gear were one in the same. Im just now back to where i stopped. I know, im an idiot. Is it normal for the first sides such as sleeplessness and being hot all the time to subside as you progress through a cycle? Will it hit me like a ton of bricks or what. I am adding exactly 10 pounds to reps on bench every 5 days, so i think im good. LET me know, and sometimes i get 4000 cals of good food a day with 280 to 320 protein and about 400 carbs.
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9 weeks for eg. Test e 4-5 weeks
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if your not feeling it by week 4, your on too low a dose, its fake or you a terrible responder......
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4wks is pretty standard. If you have high quality testosterone and you're experienced to the effects of use in a matter of only a couple wks you should feel it but a full blown "Kick In" is normally not noticed until the the 4wk mark.
Like others said, if it's garbage then obviously you won't notice much of anything. Also, what you're expecting to notice may affect your head a little bit. If you've never used gear or not that much of it you may be expecting to react like some supplement add you see in a magazine. If that's what you're expecting then there's bad news, gear doesn't work that way. You won't wake up one morning feeling like a chained beast only to explode out of your bed one morning with a thunderous roar and a feeling of a bullet-proof bull. That's called the land of make believe.
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Like others said, if it's garbage then obviously you won't notice much of anything. Also, what you're expecting to notice may affect your head a little bit. If you've never used gear or not that much of it you may be expecting to react like some supplement add you see in a magazine. If that's what you're expecting then there's bad news, gear doesn't work that way. You won't wake up one morning feeling like a chained beast only to explode out of your bed one morning with a thunderous roar and a feeling of a bullet-proof bull. That's called the land of make believe.
Wait. U mean I'm not gonna wake up like a chained beast? Why the hell am
I wasting my time with gear lol. Funny how u described it. Wats really funny is that people really think they are gonna be that way lol
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4wks is pretty standard. If you have high quality testosterone and you're experienced to the effects of use in a matter of only a couple wks you should feel it but a full blown "Kick In" is normally not noticed until the the 4wk mark.
Like others said, if it's garbage then obviously you won't notice much of anything. Also, what you're expecting to notice may affect your head a little bit. If you've never used gear or not that much of it you may be expecting to react like some supplement add you see in a magazine. If that's what you're expecting then there's bad news, gear doesn't work that way. You won't wake up one morning feeling like a chained beast only to explode out of your bed one morning with a thunderous roar and a feeling of a bullet-proof bull. That's called the land of make believe.
Just started with norma test after a 4month lay off the drugs and it started working couple hours after my injection. I was actually "feeling" it. might have been "placebo". 8) ;)
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4wks is pretty standard. If you have high quality testosterone and you're experienced to the effects of use in a matter of only a couple wks you should feel it but a full blown "Kick In" is normally not noticed until the the 4wk mark.
Like others said, if it's garbage then obviously you won't notice much of anything. Also, what you're expecting to notice may affect your head a little bit. If you've never used gear or not that much of it you may be expecting to react like some supplement add you see in a magazine. If that's what you're expecting then there's bad news, gear doesn't work that way. You won't wake up one morning feeling like a chained beast only to explode out of your bed one morning with a thunderous roar and a feeling of a bullet-proof bull. That's called the land of make believe.
Well thanks Arnold, i've put on some quality weight and i think im legit. To be honest, when i started i got all the way down to 183. I'm 6'2. I was bad off and going through a destructive tailspin. Just to be through it and back to where i was is a blessing in itself, but my lifts are still going up. AAS saved my life literally. I appreciate all the help you guys have given me and its just a bitch that this stuff is illegal in my country. I am the heaviest i have ever been, and in about one week probably the strongest. I'll let you know. Once again thanks you guys!!!
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Well thanks Arnold, i've put on some quality weight and i think im legit. To be honest, when i started i got all the way down to 183. I'm 6'2. I was bad off and going through a destructive tailspin. Just to be through it and back to where i was is a blessing in itself, but my lifts are still going up. AAS saved my life literally. I appreciate all the help you guys have given me and its just a bitch that this stuff is illegal in my country. I am the heaviest i have ever been, and in about one week probably the strongest. I'll let you know. Once again thanks you guys!!!
I personally think you shouldve got a diet and solid lifting routine sorted before AAS.What happens if you come off and something happens in your life again that causes you to lose weight and mass again? It seems like you should sort yourself out.Steroids arent something you take to feel better about yourself...
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no shit sherlock, i wasn't using them like they were a fix all. I knew beforehand and do agree that my diet and training should have been in check, but it was just a hard time. I aint tryin to be cryin like a little bitch, just sayin shit happens. I truly wish that i would have been liftin again for about two months before i geared up. My gains would have been that much better. I just finally came across a decent source and jumped the gun a little bit. And by the way thanks for the the help and info is what i was trying to say you fucking dickweed. You must be a god damn genius! Who knew that i should have been eating and training before gearing up!! You should patent that shit!
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You fucking bitch
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Damn, i think that was a spike in my test levels, lol
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You fucking bitch
Wow dude. You should really chill out. The guy was trying to give you advice. And good advice it was. People aren't gonna help you with your questions/problems with those types of responses.
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Sorry, i just don't like people who don't even know me telling me i need to "sort myself out". I was in a bad mood, and being told things i already know. The whole thing was just a bad decision on my part. I could jump on this board and say "dude you shoulda done this" all day, but i don't, especially when it pertains to general information that everyone already knows. I was asking about kick in times for test e and i get Charles Glass telling me what i "shoulda" done. Sorry if i made people mad but i already know and am 4.5 weeks in. Yes i did it wrong, but it's done. And like i said i was in a bad mood.
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Just started with norma test after a 4month lay off the drugs and it started working couple hours after my injection. I was actually "feeling" it. might have been "placebo". 8) ;)
keep me(us) updated on how it goes man. you can let us know if taking time off is worth it or not. ;D
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I think if anything's taking 4 fucking weeks to kick in then it's just a placebo or someone's expecting a miracle!!! :o
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keep me(us) updated on how it goes man. you can let us know if taking time off is worth it or not. ;D
Definately man. :)
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You fucking bitch
Roid rage, your test is legit. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Roid rage, your test is legit. ;D ;D ;D ??? ;D ;D ;D
I concur. 8)
Also if the gear "is getting to you" there's all kinds of other drugs to keep you "sane", just look at the good example set by the pros! ;D
All joking aside, i notice test e in about two weeks and as far as life goes, shit just happens, sometimes you feel like there's no tomorrow and other times you feel like the king of the world. When there's big changes in my life i try to stay away from the gear for a while since i'm 100% sure it affects the way i react to things, good and bad...
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I concur. 8)
Also if the gear "is getting to you" there's all kinds of other drugs to keep you "sane", just look at the good example set by the pros! ;D
All joking aside, i notice test e in about two weeks and as far as life goes, shit just happens, sometimes you feel like there's no tomorrow and other times you feel like the king of the world. When there's big changes in my life i try to stay away from the gear for a while since i'm 100% sure it affects the way i react to things, good and bad...
I was just kidding.
But i think you're right, hormones effect the way you see things.
On the other hand, some times it might be good to be ON, because you know it will effect you in a good way.
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By personal experience I can say that at the end of 2 weeks I feel it kicking. I do cycles of 6 weeks with enanth twice a year... Sometimes with dbol...
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I was just kidding.
But i think you're right, hormones effect the way you see things.
On the other hand, some times it might be good to be ON, because you know it will effect you in a good way.
Yeah, i know.
Personally i'm pretty sensitive to hormones, espescially strong androgens, so i do get the odd mood swings, but never "roid rage"... (If it even exist).
- And, yes, sometimes it's good to be ON, i noticed that when i was a bouncer, i kind of allways felt that: "i had ace up my sleeve" or some "extra back up!" As weird as it sounds... Of course gear helps you hold on to muscle during times of stress as well so it really is a catch 22 situation...
By personal experience I can say that at the end of 2 weeks I feel it kicking. I do cycles of 6 weeks with enanth twice a year... Sometimes with dbol...
Those a pretty short cycles to do with enanthate, why don't you do longer ones?
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Yeah, i know.
Personally i'm pretty sensitive to hormones, espescially strong androgens, so i do get the odd mood swings, but never "roid rage"... (If it even exist).
- And, yes, sometimes it's good to be ON, i noticed that when i was a bouncer, i kind of allways felt that: "i had ace up my sleeve" or some "extra back up!" As weird as it sounds... Of course gear helps you hold on to muscle during times of stress as well so it really is a catch 22 situation...
Those a pretty short cycles to do with enanthate, why don't you do longer ones?
I am always on the move, so whenerver I have like six weeks, especially when preparing to compete in powerlifting, I run 500mg a week of enant. It is a stable drug, better than prop because I don't need to pine eod. It gives me some freedom. I feel very good strength gains, not that much muscle hardness. But it increases a lot my bw, like 5kg per month, so I have to be careful with my diet to prevent getting bloated.
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I am always on the move, so whenerver I have like six weeks, especially when preparing to compete in powerlifting, I run 500mg a week of enant. It is a stable drug, better than prop because I don't need to pine eod. It gives me some freedom. I feel very good strength gains, not that much muscle hardness. But it increases a lot my bw, like 5kg per month, so I have to be careful with my diet to prevent getting bloated.
I understand your situation and as fellow powerlifter can sympathize, but why don't you choose sustanon over enanthate, i feel i get more out of it, if i'm doing short cycles, also since you are a fellow European, which organisations do you lift that don't test? WPC?
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I understand your situation and as fellow powerlifter can sympathize, but why don't you choose sustanon over enanthate, i feel i get more out of it, if i'm doing short cycles, also since you are a fellow European, which organisations do you lift that don't test? WPC?
I tried sustanon several times, but in order to get from sust as mucha as I get from enant I would have do run 1g, I know it sounds silly but it is the way my body reacts to this drug. The other disavantage is that I get more or less 2 weeks with feverish symptons, which give me cramps and headaches.
I compete in WPC. You can check out our website at www.wpc-portugal.com.pt
Which country are you from? You compete in IPF? What is your weight class?
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Which country are you from? You compete in IPF? What is your weight class?
Finland
SHW
Currently nowhere, I'm not willing to piss into a cup... :D
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Finland
SHW
Currently nowhere, I'm not willing to piss into a cup... :D
You had recently the WPC world championship at Mikkel, I think... Why don't you compete in WPC?
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You had recently the WPC world championship at Mikkeli, I think... Why don't you compete in WPC?
I'll propably start doing that soon and it's not about the organisation itself, but being a powerlifter in Finland is like being a long distance runner in Kenya...
I had planned/trained and booked a trip to a big competition in the US that took place about 6 weeks ago, but about 3 months ago, i got a small tear in my left pec and it didn't heal in time, that really bummed me out. I just don't seem to get fired up from these "local" competitions, i'll propably have to try to change the way i'm thinking... :P
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i can feel the test next day after injecting it. dont expect huge gains after only 6 weeks.. it takes time.. unless you shoot everyday like 100mg suspension, 100mg tren a+ anadrol with gh+slin thats a different story lol but for us mortals it takes time
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thanks, thats good to hear
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When I did test e only cycle (10 weeks) i noticed libido going up crazy on my 2nd week. On 3rd week i felt my recovery time was insane. 3 hours after my workout i felt like i didn't hit weights that day ( on Thursdays i always had my soccer games so i would go to gym for an hour, had 30-40 min brake and afterwards play the league game- did not notice any effect on my performance at all). Strength came around week 3-4 but size around week 6. My 2nd cycle will be prop and NPP 7 and 6 week only. Cant wait to start it.