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No joke ladies and gents; He is like Anderson Silva meets Randy Couture---
The guy is a machine. As much parity as there is at 205, I seriously do not see him losing for a very very very long time.
Rashad should take a fucking hike. He is going to get his ass kicked.
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I can't believe the way he dominated Rua. NEVER saw that coming. He coulda put him away in round 1. I actually think Jones froze up when Rashad came into the ring. I wonder who is more dominate in their sparring.. and if one is more the mentor etc. I do think Rashad could pose a threat. Really fast and high intensity.
Such a talent Jones is. We just haven't seen him get hit yet.
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Not only do I think Rashad will be a walk in the park, I think Jones will embarass him badly.
It wouldn't surprise me if Rashad fakes an injury to avoid fighting Jones.
Jones was a better fighter than Rashad after his first fight in the UFC. Unless Jones decides not to take fighting seriously anymore and he becomes addicted to heroin, he is going to walk right over Rashad.
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I actually think it will be his toughest fight yet. Shogun is a great striker, better than Rashad. But rashad goes at a much faster pace and really gets in there and swings. ALso, does Rashad know any weaknesses, etc?
We still have yet to find out about JOnes' chin. Rashad will test it you can guarantee that.
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I actually think it will be his toughest fight yet. Shogun is a great striker, better than Rashad. But rashad goes at a much faster pace and really gets in there and swings. ALso, does Rashad know any weaknesses, etc?
We still have yet to find out about JOnes' chin. Rashad will test it you can guarantee that.
Dude-- are you nuts? Rashad doesn't want any part of getting hit by Jones. an 84 inch reach against Rashad? Trust me, Rashad will try to outwrestle him, fail miserably and get TKO'd.
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Believe me, I hope so. I'm loving Jones'. But I do think Rashad will be the biggest test for him.. moreso than Rua. Rashad seems more aggressive, and that is what is going to be able to get him to test that chin.
On a side note, who would be a good matchup? Silva? i see silva getting crushed.
I met jones about two years ago. He wasn't really known. I called out his name as he walked by down a walkway (he just got done making a guest appearance at a low level mma event. When I called out Bones! he stopped, turned around and walked down the aisle to shake hands. Ever since then I've been a big fan. Just cool to see him win tonight
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Rashad is going to get murdered.
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Believe me, I hope so. I'm loving Jones'. But I do think Rashad will be the biggest test for him.. moreso than Rua. Rashad seems more aggressive, and that is what is going to be able to get him to test that chin.
On a side note, who would be a good matchup? Silva? i see silva getting crushed.
I met jones about two years ago. He wasn't really known. I called out his name as he walked by down a walkway (he just got done making a guest appearance at a low level mma event. When I called out Bones! he stopped, turned around and walked down the aisle to shake hands. Ever since then I've been a big fan. Just cool to see him win tonight
Listen, as much as I love Shogun, I cant take anything away from Jones. The dude is a superhero. That thread that I posted earlier is a fact. The fucking guy chased down a purse snatcher for a mile, kicked out his leg and then held him down for the cops to arrive. He's 23 years old and doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, get in trouble-- he's a model citizen, humble, religious etc. If he is the champ from here on out, it couldn't happen to a better kid. He's a great ambassador for the sport.
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Will anybody beat Jon Jones?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Listen, as much as I love Shogun, I cant take anything away from Jones. The dude is a superhero. That thread that I posted earlier is a fact. The fucking guy chased down a purse snatcher for a mile, kicked out his leg and then held him down for the cops to arrive. He's 23 years old and doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, get in trouble-- he's a model citizen, humble, religious etc. If he is the champ from here on out, it couldn't happen to a better kid. He's a great ambassador for the sport.
Totally agree.There seemed to be alot of hate in the MMA world for Jones, cos occasionally his comments can come across as big headed or whatever.But the guy is unbeatable.Ive said it since he destroyed Vera.To think by 3 years hes going to be even better in every aspect of fighting is truly scary.He didnt even look like he'd fought last night after the fight, and thats against one of the greatest fighters of all time.Damn!!! :o
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I have never had anything negative to say about Bones because its a catch 22, if hes confident hes labelled arrogant and cocky, if hes quiet and unassuming hes scared. His overall abilities are astounding, and on that evidence i dont see anyone in the current crop being able to handle him. His striking is incredible, his cardio is top class, his wrestling is dominating people of all levels of ability and he has shown no weaknesses.
There will always be someone better out there - he just has to be found - however Bones will continue to grow into the sport, it is inevitable that he will move up to HW & from here the sky is the limit. Finally we have someone labelled with unlimited potential who is actually living up to the hype. If Anderson Silva wants to be the man, of if he messes with Dana again, i would be confident enough to say we have found the guy that would put him in his place.
Exciting times ahead, what a talent.
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Yeah, you reallly gotta love him. Just put yourself in his shoes. 23. Young and timid. WInning the UFC LHW belt?!
Love his skills and athleticism. I wonder how Rua looks this morning.
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I think you guys are exagerating. He still has to be tested against aggressive strikers with KO power who can match him for speed. What happens if he gets cliped in the chin? What happens if he gets into the guard of a top BJJ guy who has the strength to keep him there? Will he be able to avoid submissions against a top BJJ guy with nothing but his wrestling?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I think Rashad probably Match's up against Jones a little better than Rua did although I don't see Rashad winning...
gut feeling here, but I see Machida with the best chance to beat him...
both fights are probably going to be snoozefests
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Dana and Lorenzo have already started talking about an Anderson/Bones superfight. That's actually more interesting than the GSP one.
Someone post the press conference video of Bones describing how they caught the mugger...it's hilarious. This guy is full of charisma. I'm looking forward every matchup in his division: Rashad, Rampage, Machida.
Oh, and all you Pride nutguggers, STFU and get off Bones nuts...he's a UFC figher that dominated your Pride posterboy. Lol.
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I think you guys are exagerating. He still has to be tested against aggressive strikers with KO power who can match him for speed. What happens if he gets cliped in the chin? What happens if he gets into the guard of a top BJJ guy who has the strength to keep him there? Will he be able to avoid submissions against a top BJJ guy with nothing but his wrestling?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
At this point, nobody exists that meets ANY ONE of the skills you mentioned.
Doesn't matter what speed they have, Jones can't be reached without taking punishment on the way in.
Nobody at 205 has been or will be able to keep Jones down.
Jones biggest strength is his reach and speed.
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I think you guys are exagerating. He still has to be tested against aggressive strikers with KO power who can match him for speed. What happens if he gets cliped in the chin? What happens if he gets into the guard of a top BJJ guy who has the strength to keep him there? Will he be able to avoid submissions against a top BJJ guy with nothing but his wrestling?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You're right. Maybe they should get the Hulk or Wolverine to come in ::)
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Jones is willing to put himself out there with unorthodox strikes and moves, he's willing to take chances, obviously not afraid of getting hit.......yet. I was shocked the way he walked over Rua, although he looked tired to me at the beginning of the second. Dude should dominate then move up a weightclass, he has the frame to carry alot more weight.
I second the motion of Jones/Silva.......I'd like to see Silva get whipped. :)
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You're right. Maybe they should get the Hulk or Wolverine to come in.
Like some other poster mentioned, stylistically Machida has what it takes to beat him. Styles make fights, and Machida's elusiveness, speed and precision is custom-made to defeat Jones. I can see Jones charging Machida all hot-headed, Machida eludes all his punches and then clips him with an upper-cut right in the chin and he's put to sleep.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I thought Rua was the one to give Bones a good battle. Can't believe how it went down.
When i first saw Jones i wasn't a fan because i thought he'd be a cocky s.o.b. but he's not. Grweat attitude and great, unpredictable style.
I dunno who'd give him the most trouble at 205. I don't agree that it's Machida. Shogun proved you could beat him if you went at him and hit him in the face, and Jones could easily do the same and he's got the benefit of that longer reach. I guess it would be someone who could get inside, take him down and beat him on the canvas.
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Like some other poster mentioned, stylistically Machida has what it takes to beat him. Styles make fights, and Machida's elusiveness, speed and precision is custom-made to defeat Jones. I can see Jones charging Machida all hot-headed, Machida eludes all his punches and then clips him with an upper-cut right in the chin and he's put to sleep.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Machida couldn't get past Rampage and your telling me that he would demolish Jones?
Damn bro...you really don't follow MMA do you?
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I thought Rua was the one to give Bones a good battle. Can't believe how it went down.
When i first saw Jones i wasn't a fan because i thought he'd be a cocky s.o.b. but he's not. Grweat attitude and great, unpredictable style.
I dunno who'd give him the most trouble at 205. I don't agree that it's Machida. Shogun proved you could beat him if you went at him and hit him in the face, and Jones could easily do the same and he's got the benefit of that longer reach. I guess it would be someone who could get inside, take him down and beat him on the canvas.
I like Jones. He's confident but not cocky whatsoever. Very hard to find a guy his age that has found such success at such a young age.
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Machida couldn't get past Rampage and your telling me that he would demolish Jones?
Damn bro...you really don't follow MMA do you?
MMAth again. What has this got to do with anything? Styles make fights. Fighter "A" who can't beat fighter "B" is able to beat fighter "C" who beat fighter "B". This happens all the time, dude. Machida got owned by Shogun and Rampage, but this doesen't mean he will get owned by Jones. Remember that when Machida lost to Shogun, he was coming from a 14 fight winning streak just like Jones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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MMAth again. What has this got to do with anything? Styles make fights. Fighter "A" who can't beat fighter "B" is able to beat fighter "C" who beat fighter "B". This happens all the time, dude. Machida got owned by Shogun and Rampage, but this doesen't mean he will get owned by Jones. Remember that when Machida lost to Shogun, he was coming from a 14 fight winning streak just like Jones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Did Machida ever catch a robber hours before the event on fight day...end of discussion.
JJ is a whole different breed than anything we have seen, outside of Anderson.
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Did Machida ever catch a robber hours before the event on fight day...end of discussion.
JJ is a whole different breed than anything we have seen, outside of Anderson.
I dont think anybody can touch JJ. What I find humerous is that Mindless thinks JJ is unbeatable because he stopped a purse snatcher before the Shogun fight. Great logic as usual.
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MMAth again. What has this got to do with anything? Styles make fights. Fighter "A" who can't beat fighter "B" is able to beat fighter "C" who beat fighter "B". This happens all the time, dude. Machida got owned by Shogun and Rampage, but this doesen't mean he will get owned by Jones. Remember that when Machida lost to Shogun, he was coming from a 14 fight winning streak just like Jones.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Machida is not a big fan of being hit.....JJ is going to hit him, a lot.
Jones will steamroll Machida - it won't even be close.
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Machida is not a big fan of being hit.....JJ is going to hit him, a lot.
Jones will steamroll Machida - it won't even be close.
Just ignore suckmymuscle. Otherwise you will be drawn into a discussion that will kill your brain cells by the millions.
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Jones is definetly the future of the 205 division, I'm a little surprised because I thought it was going to take him another 4-6 months to come up fully and make a run for the belt, but WOW he just steamrolled his last 3 opponents, he disfigured Hammill's face and destroyed Rua. He is too dynamic and unorthodox for most 205 guys, the most dangerous opponents are the unpredictable ones.
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Just ignore suckmymuscle. Otherwise you will be drawn into a discussion that will kill your brain cells by the millions.
Yes, all the mental energy you will spend trying to understand things that are beyond your intelligence will raise the temperature in your brain and kill your brain cells by the millions. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Jones is definetly the future of the 205 division, I'm a little surprised because I thought it was going to take him another 4-6 months to come up fully and make a run for the belt, but WOW he just steamrolled his last 3 opponents, he disfigured Hammill's face and destroyed Rua. He is too dynamic and unorthodox for most 205 guys, the most dangerous opponents are the unpredictable ones.
He is also too big for his opponents. He will hold the belt for a long time, with relative ease.
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John Jones is the shit!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/MartianManhunterRossAlex.jpg/162px-MartianManhunterRossAlex.jpg)
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Will anybody beat Jon Jones?
NO.
Jones is just too big, too fast, and too talented for the rest of the Light Heavyweights.
But Phil Davis (below) does have the wrestling background, and the size (79 inch reach) and speed to make it somewhat interesting, but that is it.
He fights Antônio Rogério Nogueira on March 26th.
(http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/Phil_Davis.jpg)
Phil Davis
Four-time NCAA Division I All-American
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He is also too big for his opponents. He will hold the belt for a long time, with relative ease.
I think so as well, guy is 6"4 and athletic as hell, he moves like he's 185 and has very unorthodox striking
those flying elbows come out of nowhere, he's good on the ground (look at what he did to Hammill)
and has a 10" reach advantage over most of the guys at 205.
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I think so as well, guy is 6"4 and athletic as hell, he moves like he's 185 and has very unorthodox striking
those flying elbows come out of nowhere, he's good on the ground (look at what he did to Hammill)
and has a 10" reach advantage over most of the guys at 205.
Yep, with those stats combined with his stellar skill makes him pretty well untouchable at LHW. There is no challenge for him in that division. He can stand halfway across the octagon landing strikes while his helpless opponent suffers a humiliating beat down while Jones just laughs with amusement. Just like the long black dude from streetfighter, just a bitch to fight. He wouldn't have that huge advantage at HW however. The lanky black men that nobody can get within 10 feet of will take over the sport in time. We've now got 2 of them as champs now..
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NO.
Jones is just too big, too fast, and too talented for the rest of the Light Heavyweights.
But Phil Davis (below) does have the wrestling background, and the size (79 inch reach) and speed to make it somewhat interesting, but that is it.
He fights Antônio Rogério Nogueira on March 26th.
(http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/Phil_Davis.jpg)
Phil Davis
Four-time NCAA Division I All-American
To your credit, you were the first person on here that I recall saying Jones would be world champ before years end.