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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2011, 02:10:56 PM
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it's a leftist war.
Therefore DK is now a "rightist"?
I'm so confused.
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Good stuff! These two guys are just being consistent. If Bush committed war crimes and should have been impeached, then Obama is committing war crimes too and should be impeached too.
These two guys are almost on the same league as Ron Paul. Dennis Kucinich said that if he ran for president, Ron Paul would be his Vice President. And Ron Paul endorsed Ralph Nader for the last presidential elections.
Ron Paul: Why Obama Is Wrong on Libya
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Kucinich is a dunce who was visited by little green men. But he is a consistent dunce.
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DK folded like a cheap tent on obamacare.
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He is 100000% correct here.
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Ralph Nader, Mr. Unsafe at Any Speed, takes on Gm's Corvair due to it having a rear engine flat six and swing axels, yet the Porsche 911 had the same thing, and he didn't go after it...hmmm.
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Ralph Nader, Mr. Unsafe at Any Speed, takes on Gm's Corvair due to it having a rear engine flat six and swing axels, yet the Porsche 911 had the same thing, and he didn't go after it...hmmm.
How many consumers owned a Convair at the time and how many owned a Porche 911?
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The obama cultists and dildos are attacking dennis and ralph all over the place now.
Both obama and his supporters deserve themselves. Phony lying pieces of trash who will defend anything from their messiah.
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Ralph Nader, Mr. Unsafe at Any Speed, takes on Gm's Corvair due to it having a rear engine flat six and swing axels, yet the Porsche 911 had the same thing, and he didn't go after it...hmmm.
I don't know the details of that, but didn't he actually bring about some good saftey changes? So I've heard anyway...
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Hugo - do you support obama's new war of choice and preemption that was not approved by the congress?
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Ralph Nader - Automobile safety activism
Nader's first consumer safety articles appeared in the Harvard Law Record, a student publication of Harvard Law School, but he first criticized the automobile industry in an article he wrote for The Nation in 1959 called "The Safe Car You Can't Buy."[10]
In 1965, Nader wrote Unsafe at Any Speed, a study that revealed that many American automobiles were unsafe. The first chapter, "The Sporty Corvair - The One-Car Accident," pertained to the Corvair manufactured by the Chevrolet division of General Motors, which had been involved in accidents involving spins and rollovers. There were over 100 lawsuits pending against GM in connection with accidents involving the popular compact car. These lawsuits provided the initial material for Nader's investigations into the safety of the car.[11]
A 1972 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration safety commission report conducted by Texas A&M University concluded that the 1960-1963 Corvairs possessed no greater potential for loss of control than its contemporaries in extreme situations.[12] GM executive John DeLorean, asserts in On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors (1979) that Nader's criticisms were valid.[13]
In early March 1966, several media outlets, including The New Republic and the New York Times, reported that GM had tried to discredit Nader, hiring private detectives to tap his phones and investigate his past and hiring prostitutes to trap him in compromising situations.[14][15] Nader sued the company for invasion of privacy and settled the case for $284,000. Nader's lawsuit against GM was ultimately decided by the New York Court of Appeals, whose opinion in the case expanded tort law to cover "overzealous surveillance."[16]
Nader's advocacy of automobile safety and the publicity generated by the publication of Unsafe at Any Speed, along with concern over escalating nationwide traffic fatalities, contributed to the unanimous passage of the 1966 National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. The act established the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and marked a historic shift in responsibility for automobile safety from the consumer to the manufacturer. The legislation mandated a series of safety features for automobiles, beginning with safety belts and stronger windshields.[17][18][19]
References:
10. Mickey Z. 50 American Revolutions You're Not Supposed To Know. New York: The Disinformation Company, 2005. p.87 ISBN 1-932857-18-4
11. Diana T. Kurylko. "Nader Damned Chevy's Corvair and Sparked a Safety Revolution." Automotive News (v.70, 1996).
12. Brent Fisse and John Braithwaite, The Impact of Publicity on Corporate Offenders. State University of New York Press, 1983. p.30 ISBN 0-87395-733-4
13. "Ralph Nader: Devil Or Angel?". Jalopnik.com. 2007-08-08. http://jalopnik.com/287116/ralph-nader-devil-or-angel. Retrieved 2011-01-01.
14. "Ralph Nader's museum of tort law will include relics from famous lawsuits—if it ever gets built". LegalAffairs.org. December 2005. http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/November-December-2005/scene_longhine_novdec05.msp.
15. "President Dwight D. Eisenhower and the Federal Role in Highway Safety: Epilogue — The Changing Federal Role". Federal Highway Administration. 2005-05-07. http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/safetyep.htm.
16. Nader v. General Motors Corp., 307 N.Y.S.2d 647 (N.Y. 1970)
17. Brent Fisse and John Braithwaite. The Impact of Publicity on Corporate Offenders. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press, 1983.
18. Robert Barry Carson, Wade L. Thomas, Jason Hecht. Economic Issues Today: Alternative Approaches. M.E. Sharpe, 2005.
19. Stan Luger. Corporate Power, American Democracy, and the Automobile Industry. New York: Cambridge University Press, 1999.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader#Automobile_safety_activism
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Good stuff! These two guys are just being consistent. If Bush committed war crimes and should have been impeached, then Obama is committing war crimes too and should be impeached too.
Agreed - BUT - Bush got away with it. Obama knows he'll get away with it too. So he's shitting on the law because he knows that there is no consequence.
If people didn't scream about bush doing it, they shuoldn't scream now.
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Agreed - BUT - Bush got away with it. Obama knows he'll get away with it too. So he's shitting on the law because he knows that there is no consequence.
If people didn't scream about bush doing it, they shuoldn't scream now.
Nader and Kucinhich had always pushed for Bush to be impeached. They are being consistent.
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Nader and Kucinhich had always pushed for Bush to be impeached. They are being consistent.
If you are looking for consistency out of 240 - better not hold your breath.
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Hugo - do you support obama's new war of choice and preemption that was not approved by the congress?
Why the fuck would you ask that when I've said nothing but absolutely no to that here? Hell fucking no I don't support it... let those fuckers kill eachother... We don't need to be mixed up in that shit. Their fucking country looked like it was bombed before we bombed it lol... what's the point...