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Study: CBS's Couric, NBC's Todd Almost as Liberal as DKos; WaPo Left of Firedoglake
By Lachlan Markay | March 21, 2011 | 18:34
Twitter and other social networks have provided social scientists with unprecedented means of measuring human interaction. As it turns out, that fact has implications for the media bias debate.
In a study to be released next month, three Duke University researchers rank politicians and other public figures by political ideology as measured by a formula that incorporates whom they follow on Twitter, and who follows them. "The results dovetailed with ideological ranking systems based on the politicians’ voting records," the New York Times reported on Monday.
If the study is accurate, it demonstrates just how liberal some of America's most prominent journalists really are. Check below the break for some key findings concerning on the not-so-neutral news media.
According to the Duke study:
- NBC's Chuck Todd and CBS's Katie Couric are almost as far left as the Daily Kos,
- The Washington Post and MSNBC are more liberal than far-left blog Firedoglake,
- NBC's Brian Williams and the Los Angeles Times are further left than Andrew Sullivan's blog the Daily Dish,
- MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman, is significantly left of center.
Conspicuously absent from the chart of the study's findings was the New York Times, which, as mentioned above, reported on those findings Monday. One wonders where the Gray Lady would fall on the list.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/03/21/study-cbss-couric-nbcs-todd-almost-liberal-dkos-wapo-left-firedoglak#ixzz1HLuBGJvf
The chart itself: http://newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/file_attach/twitter-study.pdf
Cue the far-left waterworks. Let me guess, Duke is biased towards the right-wing!
I mean, "FAUX NEWS, FAUX NEWS, FAUX NEWS!!! They're the real bigots! The rest of the organizations are unbiased and straight-shooting!!!! MSNBC = moderate and objective!!!" ::)
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I thought this was dead long ago. People seek information they agree with, the left seeks out left wing sources, the right seeks out right wing sources. News is now opinion. Provided humans are writing it or speaking it, they will almost always have a slant or bias. I just can't believe this is a study. Of course left wing journalists will follow and be followed by left wing people.
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Study: CBS's Couric, NBC's Todd Almost as Liberal as DKos; WaPo Left of Firedoglake
By Lachlan Markay | March 21, 2011 | 18:34
Twitter and other social networks have provided social scientists with unprecedented means of measuring human interaction. As it turns out, that fact has implications for the media bias debate.
In a study to be released next month, three Duke University researchers rank politicians and other public figures by political ideology as measured by a formula that incorporates whom they follow on Twitter, and who follows them. "The results dovetailed with ideological ranking systems based on the politicians’ voting records," the New York Times reported on Monday.
If the study is accurate, it demonstrates just how liberal some of America's most prominent journalists really are. Check below the break for some key findings concerning on the not-so-neutral news media.
According to the Duke study:
- NBC's Chuck Todd and CBS's Katie Couric are almost as far left as the Daily Kos,
- The Washington Post and MSNBC are more liberal than far-left blog Firedoglake,
- NBC's Brian Williams and the Los Angeles Times are further left than Andrew Sullivan's blog the Daily Dish,
- MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman, is significantly left of center.
Conspicuously absent from the chart of the study's findings was the New York Times, which, as mentioned above, reported on those findings Monday. One wonders where the Gray Lady would fall on the list.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/03/21/study-cbss-couric-nbcs-todd-almost-liberal-dkos-wapo-left-firedoglak#ixzz1HLuBGJvf
The chart itself: http://newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/file_attach/twitter-study.pdf
Cue the far-left waterworks. Let me guess, Duke is biased towards the right-wing!
I mean, "FAUX NEWS, FAUX NEWS, FAUX NEWS!!! They're the real bigots! The rest of the organizations are unbiased and straight-shooting!!!! MSNBC = moderate and objective!!!" ::)
they should wait until they release the study before reporting the results
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Not surprising at all.
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how many times have we seen so called results reported on NewsMax or WND and when we did into the actual study (or poll) we see the actual results are not what was reported and often the opposite of what was report (i.e. cherry picking certain results while igoring others)
I'm sure we can trust the site titled "New Busters - Exposing Liberal Media Bias"
for non-biased reporting
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they should wait until they release the study before reporting the results
Try reading my post dipshit as I linked the chart showing the results of the study. It was also reported by the NY Times (linked through the newsbusters site). ::)
Your panties are already in a bunch. Too funny.
Serious question, do you even read the threads you respond to? Or do you just like talking out of your ass (I'm leaning towards this given your posting history)?
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Try reading my post dipshit as I linked the chart showing the results of the study. It was also reported by the NY Times. ::)
Your panties are already in a bunch. Too funny.
Serious question, do you even read the threads you respond to? Or do you just like talking out of your ass (I'm leaning towards this given your posting history)?
links don't work (or didn't when I clicked)
when does the actual report come out
I want to see the report or the study and not some biased website spin on the so called results
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links don't work (or didn't when I clicked)
when does the actual report come out
I want to see the report or the study and not some biased website spin on the so called results
Here's a stunning tidbit: I couldn't give a fuck as to what you want to see. The liberal NY Times article is saying the same things as the newsbusters one. ::)
Claiming a biased spin in an attempt to cover up the findings is akin to a child sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting at the top of their lungs. Are you 8 or 9 years old, too?
Try reading posts before responding to them next time, champ.
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Here's a stunning tidbit: I couldn't give a fuck as to what you want to see. The liberal NY Times article is saying the same things as the newsbusters one. ::)
Try reading posts before responding to them next time, champ.
do you have a link to the study
I'd rather draw my own conclusions rather then being told what I should think
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do you have a link to the study
I'd rather draw my own conclusions rather then being told what I should think
Feel free to dig it up on the NYTimes.com. I'm not your personal army. And if you can't even be bothered to read the posts you're responding to then I'm certainly not going to waste my time holding your hand as you travel through the internet.
You're looking pretty immature here. It's cute, really.
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Feel free to dig it up on the NYTimes.com. I'm not your personal army. And if you can't even be bothered to read the posts you're responding to then I'm certainly not going to waste my time holding your hand as you travel through the internet.
You're looking pretty immature here. It's cute, really.
so no actual study to review (as I said in my first post)
I'd rather read the study and draw my own conclusions rather than letting NewBusters or the NYT tell me what to think
clearly you're fine not thinking for yourself
to each his own
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so no actual study to review (as I said in my first post)
I'd rather read the study and draw my own conclusions rather than letting NewBusters or the NYT tell me what to think
clearly you're fine not thinking for yourself
to each his own
The results of the study have been posted. The study itself has not as it's being presented in a few weeks. The NY Times, liberal rag that it is, has seen the study and reported on the results.
And let's be honest, there's a 99.99% chance you will never read the study so feel free to drop the smug, elitist attitude. But it's not surprising that you come off as an arrogant, smug elitist given that you're completely incapable of admitting when you're wrong (Hi, George Washington and the post office!). If I had to guess, I'd say you're from the Bay Area. :)
Keep getting your panties in a bunch over the notion that the MSM bias towards the left appears to be true. 8)
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The results of the study have been posted. The study itself has not as it's being presented in a few weeks. The NY Times, liberal rag that it is, has seen the study and reported on the results.
And let's be honest, there's a 99.99% chance you will never read the study so feel free to drop the smug, elitist attitude. But it's not surprising that you come off as an arrogant, smug elitist given that you're completely incapable of admitting when you're wrong (Hi, George Washington and the post office!). If I had to guess, I'd say you're from the Bay Area. :)
Keep getting your panties in a bunch over the notion that the MSM bias towards the left appears to be true. 8)
virtually everytime someone post the results of a poll or study I go find the actual study or poll and read it and almost always find contradictions, misleading or false claims etc..
but shit
why wait for the actual study
let's just run with it
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virtually everytime someone post the results of a poll or study I go find the actual study or poll and read it and almost always find contradictions, misleading or false claims etc..
but shit
why wait for the actual study
let's just run with it
Hasn't stopped the liberal NY Times, beacon of light in the darkness for the left.
Perhaps you should take it up with your heroes. :)
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Hasn't stopped the liberal NY Times, beacon of light in the darkness for the left.
Perhaps you should take it up with your heroes. :)
why would I bother
I don't look to the NYT to think for me
kind of funny that the NYT is supposedly biased toward liberals
If that were true then why would they run this story
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why would I bother
I don't look to the NYT to think for me
kind of funny that the NYT is supposedly biased toward liberals
If that were true then why would they run this story
Man, sometimes irony just crashes down on your head like a Piano doesnt it?
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Man, sometimes irony just crashes down on your head like a Piano doesnt it?
the real irony is drawing conclusions from an unpublished study
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follow the link straw it has a graph and everything....
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follow the link straw it has a graph and everything....
as I mentioned the link didn't work when I tried it the first few times
I've looked since looked at the graph but it's really meaningless without the study
the NYT article (referenced) in the link also doesn't draw any conclusions and the study has not even been released but somehow "NewsBusters has already reached a conclusion
Not suprising considering their stated purpose for existing is: "Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias"
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I thought this was dead long ago. People seek information they agree with, the left seeks out left wing sources, the right seeks out right wing sources. News is now opinion.
Yep. You want unbiased, you watch Headline news, where they give you 2 sentences of the events and they move to the next story.
What you get with most media is slanted analysis in the flavor of your choosing. The fact that most of it is liberal means, well, that most consumers prefer liberal media to conservative media. If it were any different, networks and advertisers would see people enjoy the right-wing stuff and move there more. They go where the $ is.
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LOL bro, youre a fuking idiot
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Yep. You want unbiased, you watch Headline news, where they give you 2 sentences of the events and they move to the next story.
What you get with most media is slanted analysis in the flavor of your choosing. The fact that most of it is liberal means, well, that most consumers prefer liberal media to conservative media. If it were any different, networks and advertisers would see people enjoy the right-wing stuff and move there more. They go where the $ is.
Hahaha, what? Fox News absolutely annihilates it in the ratings. If most consumers preferred liberal media to conservative then MSNBC wouldn't have the abysmal ratings it does.
It's funny how a little Duke study has lefties like you and Straw Man spinning that hamster wheel that passes for your brains in an attempt to spin it.
Don't worry, though, as these Duke guys aren't the only ones that drew these conclusions. A Gallup poll in September showed that 50% of Americans thought the media was 'too liberal' as opposed to something like a scant 18% that thought it was 'too conservative'. :D
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MSM = mainstream media = totally liberal, right?
FOX is just a small fringe part of it, overall % wise, right?
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LOL never saw that gallup poll...
http://www.gallup.com/video/123368/americans-tilt-towards-saying-media-liberal.aspx
here you go straw and 240...
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Hahaha, what? Fox News absolutely annihilates it in the ratings. If most consumers preferred liberal media to conservative then MSNBC wouldn't have the abysmal ratings it does.
It's funny how a little Duke study has lefties like you and Straw Man spinning that hamster wheel that passes for your brains in an attempt to spin it.
Don't worry, though, as these Duke guys aren't the only ones that drew these conclusions. A Gallup poll in September showed that 50% of Americans thought the media was 'too liberal' as opposed to something like a scant 18% that thought it was 'too conservative'. :D
how can I be "spinning" a report that hasn't been released yet
do you remember how many times we've seen right wing sites publish articles telling us the results of a poll only to find that the actual results and conclusions were nothing like the claims in the story and often were the opposite of what the site actually reported
All I'm saying is if they are going to try to tell us teh conclusion of a report then they should wait until the report is published so we can read it for ourselfves
I also like how Newsbusters hedged their claim a bit in their own story:
Study: CBS's Couric, NBC's Todd Almost as Liberal as DKos; WaPo Left of Firedoglake
By Lachlan Markay | March 21, 2011 | 18:34
If the study is accurate, it demonstrates just how liberal some of America's most prominent journalists really are. Check below the break for some key findings concerning on the not-so-neutral news media.
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LOL never saw that gallup poll...
http://www.gallup.com/video/123368/americans-tilt-towards-saying-media-liberal.aspx
here you go straw and 240...
Straw Man is an elitist, NPR-listening, Bay-area liberal so he knows much better than the half of Americans who think that.
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LOL never saw that gallup poll...
http://www.gallup.com/video/123368/americans-tilt-towards-saying-media-liberal.aspx
here you go straw and 240...
what people "think" about something does not mean it's true
how about a study of what is actually reported in the media rather than peoples beliefs
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Straw Man is an elitist, NPR-listening, Bay-area liberal so he knows much better than the half of Americans who think that.
elitist
that's pretty funny
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what people "think" about something does not mean it's true
how about a study of what is actually reported in the media rather than peoples beliefs
aint that the truth,
I again refer you to the link...
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aint that the truth,
I again refer you to the link...
I looked at it
Do you think belief = proof?
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I looked at it
Do you think belief = proof?
what belief it cites the study, gives a graph...
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what belief it cites the study, gives a graph...
Apparently Duke researchers aren't liberal or elitist enough. Perhaps if they came from some liberal think-tank based out of San Francisco...
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elitist
that's pretty funny
So you're poor, uneducated, stupid and think that you know everything? I sorely misjudged you. I always took you for an upper middle class, educated at a wanna be ivy - small,liberal arts college on the West coast with a low grade point average in a useless major like "Dead Languages" or "Ugandan Art History", and having no overall practical intelligence or common sense. Instead, I see that your just a run of the mill lib with a small brain and no ambitions. My sincerest apologies.
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So you're poor, uneducated, stupid and think that you know everything? I sorely misjudged you. I always took you for an upper middle class, educated at a wanna be ivy - small,liberal arts college on the West coast with a low grade point average in a useless major like "Dead Languages" or "Ugandan Art History", and having no overall practical intelligence or common sense. Instead, I see that your just a run of the mill lib with a small brain and no ambitions. My sincerest apologies.
LOL!
He's a bay-area liberal. He eats sushi once every two weeks and recycles a lot so he's more cultured and better than you. He also rides a fixie bike and loves visiting the hottest art galleries in between 8-man protests for whatever the day's anti-American cause célèbre is.
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in between 8-man protests for whatever the day's anti-American cause célèbre is.
:D
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So you're poor, uneducated, stupid and think that you know everything? I sorely misjudged you. I always took you for an upper middle class, educated at a wanna be ivy - small,liberal arts college on the West coast with a low grade point average in a useless major like "Dead Languages" or "Ugandan Art History", and having no overall practical intelligence or common sense. Instead, I see that your just a run of the mill lib with a small brain and no ambitions. My sincerest apologies.
gee what a suprise
your first and only post is a personal attack
you're pretty close on my background. I have a degree in Finance from a Jesuit University, own my home and am debt free except for the mortgage, nice sized investment portfolio, and never collected a day of unemployment in my life
You certainly seem to spend more time thinking about me than I do about you. All I know about you is that you're clearly a racist and usually have nothing of value to offer on any topic which is why you resort to personal attacks. From your many rants about gays I'd also guess you were a closet case
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:'(
Are you hostile toward straight people because your degree in Finance at Jesuit University included classes on how to help Monsignors sequester funds from parishes where known pedophile priests were allowed to conduct mass so that molestation victims were prevented from collecting large cash judgements in civil lawsuits?
Yikes. I am actually more repulsed by that revelation than my prior misjudgment about you being an unemployed liberal leech with a small brain.
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:'(
Are you hostile toward straight people because your degree in Finance at Jesuit University included classes on how to help Monsignors sequester funds from parishes where known pedophile priests were allowed to conduct mass so that molestation victims were prevented from collecting large cash judgements in civil lawsuits?
Yikes. I am actually more repulsed by that revelation than my prior misjudgment about you being an unemployed liberal leech with a small brain.
if you ever paid attention to my posts you'd know how I feel about all religious institutions
why the constant personal attacks
don't you have anything better to do or are you bored at your graveyard shift at the Quickie Mart?
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Yeah those elitist with their education and jobs ::)
Real knowledge is found in the trailer park
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Yeah those elitist with their education and jobs ::)
Real knowledge is found in the trailer park
:D
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:D
Wait for BZ to accuse us off being one and the same Mr. Blacken.
Apparently his mind cant grasp the fact that some people might disagree with him so he has to pretend we are gimmick accounts.
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Hahaha, it doesn't get anymore pathetic than a moron patting himself on the back with his gimmick account.
Most of your gimmicks were outed a while ago. Your fault for not possessing the intellectual capacity required to change your posting style.
:D :D :D :D
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So why dont you close down your gimmick accounts then?
Its getting pretty lame your accusations but hey from a lazy trailer park bum what can you expect
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So why dont you close down your gimmick accounts then?
Its getting pretty lame your accusations but hey from a lazy trailer park bum what can you expect
What gimmicks?
Get a job and a GED you pathetic, welfare-leeching freeloader. You're running close to a dozen gimmicks on here. Having conversations with yourself in an effort to give credence to your posts is about as pitiful as it gets. :D :D :D :D
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I have a job i dont think you do.
What profession are you in? Getbig moderator?
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I have a job i dont think you do.
What profession are you in? Getbig moderator?
Running more gimmicks than there are regular posters on the politics board =/= having a job.
Each of your gimmicks has close to or in excess of 1,000 posts and you're on here from 6 AM EST until 12 AM the next day. Clearly a welfare leech.
Stop derailing my thread, gimmick.
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You are embarrassing yourself here.
You have 14642 post.
Thats a helluva lot more than me.
I dont think you have a job and if you do you have no life.
Sad..
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Wait for BZ to accuse us off being one and the same Mr. Blacken.
Apparently his mind cant grasp the fact that some people might disagree with him so he has to pretend we are gimmick accounts.
Haha...another pathetic gimmick attempting a preemptive block. Stop talking to yourself and making pathetically veiled attempts at hiding who you are and you won't have to worry about it - gimmick.
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You are embarrassing yourself here.
You have 14642 post.
Thats a helluva lot more than me.
I dont think you have a job and if you do you have no life.
Sad..
but thats just with this account, if you added up all your gimmicks youd rival 240 ;)