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Weiner: Waiver might work for N.Y.
By: Kate Nocera
March 23, 2011 04:37 PM EDT
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E237D0F7-D198-4A06-9F64-3DF700E014AB
Rep. Anthony Weiner said Wednesday he was looking into how a health law waiver might work for New York City.
Weiner, who is likely to run for mayor of New York, said that because of the city’s special health care infrastructure, his office was looking into alternatives that might make more sense. Weiner is one of the health care law’s biggest supporters; during the debate leading up to reform, he was one of the last holdouts in Congress for the public option.
“The president said, ‘If you have better ideas that can accomplish the same thing, go for it,’” said Weiner. “I’m in the process now of trying to see if we can take [President Barack Obama] up on it in the city of New York, … and I’m taking a look at all of the money we spend in Medicaid and Medicare and maybe New York City can come up with a better plan.”
New York is one of two states that pass on Medicaid expenses to cities and localities, so “the city winds up having an enormous Medicaid expense,” Weiner said.
The congressman was trying to debunk Republican “myths” about the health care law during a speech at the Center for American Progress. He used the waivers as way to describe how flexible the law actually is and how “this notion that the government is shoving the bill down people’s throats” is not true.
“The administration needs to make this argument more forcefully,” he said. “A lot of people who got waivers were … people who are our friends.”
The New York Democrat said that he does not have the power to get the city to apply for a waiver but that he is “personally looking at whether he can make the numbers work.”
“We in New York already have hospitals, we already employ doctors and we employ nurses. We have a lot of uninsured people. … [Setting up] the exchanges is the one piece of the puzzle that would be difficult for us to do,” he said. “I’m just looking internally to whether the city can save money and have more control over its own destiny.
Weiner is slated to hold at least five events on the anniversary of the Affordable Care Act and has been one of the most outspoken Democratic supporters of the law.
© 2011 Capitol News Company, LLC
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Case closed. This thing is a friggin disaster. End it now along with the Obama Admn.
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Wait, wait, wait. Weiner is trying to spin waivers as indicators of the "flexibility" of Obamacare. If anything, the fact that waivers are given out is proof that the legislation is a failure. If it was capable of doing what Pelosi claimed it was going to do, which was lowering premiums, lower the deficit and increase jobs, then there wouldn't be any need whatsoever for waivers. Simple as that.
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On thisd issue alone bama does not deserve a second term.
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Mayor Weiner.
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You mean this guy, who was one of ObamaCare's biggest whor....ahem....adovcate s, NOW wants a waiver for his city?
(actually, I saw that earlier this morning on Fox & Friends; so, it's hardly a surprise).
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You mean this guy, who was one of ObamaCare's biggest whor....ahem....adovcate s, NOW wants a waiver for his city?
(actually, I saw that earlier this morning on Fox & Friends; so, it's hardly a surprise).
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Weiner: Waiver might work for N.Y.
By: Kate Nocera
March 23, 2011 04:37 PM EDT
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E237D0F7-D198-4A06-9F64-3DF700E014AB
Rep. Anthony Weiner said Wednesday he was looking into how a health law waiver might work for New York City.
Weiner, who is likely to run for mayor of New York, said that because of the city’s special health care infrastructure, his office was looking into alternatives that might make more sense. Weiner is one of the health care law’s biggest supporters; during the debate leading up to reform, he was one of the last holdouts in Congress for the public option.
“The president said, ‘If you have better ideas that can accomplish the same thing, go for it,’” said Weiner. “I’m in the process now of trying to see if we can take [President Barack Obama] up on it in the city of New York, … and I’m taking a look at all of the money we spend in Medicaid and Medicare and maybe New York City can come up with a better plan.”
New York is one of two states that pass on Medicaid expenses to cities and localities, so “the city winds up having an enormous Medicaid expense,” Weiner said.
The congressman was trying to debunk Republican “myths” about the health care law during a speech at the Center for American Progress. He used the waivers as way to describe how flexible the law actually is and how “this notion that the government is shoving the bill down people’s throats” is not true.
“The administration needs to make this argument more forcefully,” he said. “A lot of people who got waivers were … people who are our friends.”
The New York Democrat said that he does not have the power to get the city to apply for a waiver but that he is “personally looking at whether he can make the numbers work.”
“We in New York already have hospitals, we already employ doctors and we employ nurses. We have a lot of uninsured people. … [Setting up] the exchanges is the one piece of the puzzle that would be difficult for us to do,” he said. “I’m just looking internally to whether the city can save money and have more control over its own destiny. http://medicaresupplementnews.com/
Weiner is slated to hold at least five events on the anniversary of the Affordable Care Act and has been one of the most outspoken Democratic supporters of the law.
© 2011 Capitol News Company, LLC
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Case closed. This thing is a friggin disaster. End it now along with the Obama Admn.
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Obamacare is going to be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
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Obamacare is going to be found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
Why wait that long? The GOP needs to defund this mess. And, since the Dems were too stupid to pass a budget, the Republicans can hit a potential home run: Reduce wasteful spending AND effectively kill ObamaCare by taking away the $105 billion that Pelosi and crew snuck into the bill.
Take away the $$$$$, don't give them no more; and ObamaCare DIES (Supreme Court or not)!!!
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American taxpayer needs a waiver from the communist democrats and all their idiotc schemes, scams, utopian bs, and hokus pokus economic lies.
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]Why wait that long? The GOP needs to defund this mess.[/b] And, since the Dems were too stupid to pass a budget, the Republicans can hit a potential home run: Reduce wasteful spending AND effectively kill ObamaCare by taking away the $105 billion that Pelosi and crew snuck into the bill. http://medicaresupplemental.net/
Take away the $$$$$, don't give them no more; and ObamaCare DIES (Supreme Court or not)!!!
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I agree, and have said this very same thing on here many times.
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Why wait that long? The GOP needs to defund this mess. And, since the Dems were too stupid to pass a budget, the Republicans can hit a potential home run: Reduce wasteful spending AND effectively kill ObamaCare by taking away the $105 billion that Pelosi and crew snuck into the bill.
Take away the $$$$$, don't give them no more; and ObamaCare DIES (Supreme Court or not)!!!
i remember a while back you said this was going to be done i a week, unconsitutional,i guess that didn't pan out to good
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i remember a while back you said this was going to be done i a week, unconsitutional,i guess that didn't pan out to good
I said no such thing, O ye of short memory. What I said was that Obama had A WEEK to file an appeal or the ruling from Florida (that deemed Obamacare unconstitutional) would STAND.
Guess what happened, Platinum member of TK!! Obama FILED THAT APPEAL; now the process is in the appealate courts.
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Is there any more proof needed what a pofs this law is?
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He's a clown. The most unprofessional member of Congress I've seen in a while.
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He's a clown. The most unprofessional member of Congress I've seen in a while.
He did punk the shit out of buddy over the first responders bill.. that shit was hilarious
"the gentleman will sit down, the gentleman is correct in sitting down!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"IF YOU WANT TO VOTE NO.. THEN VOTE NO!!!!!!!"
LMAO
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He did punk the shit out of buddy over the first responders bill.. that shit was hilarious
"the gentleman will sit down, the gentleman is correct in sitting down!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"IF YOU WANT TO VOTE NO.. THEN VOTE NO!!!!!!!"
LMAO
He literally acts like a little kid.
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Slowly but surely everybody is being exempted from this new healthcare law - by the very people who created it.
And Barry still won't admit anything is wrong with it. ::)
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Ooops, with one exception - the paperwork. ::)
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Weiner wanted a single payer system like Medicare.
I think he wants this to be similar.
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Weiner wanted a single payer system like Medicare.
I think he wants this to be similar.
Too late - we are broke and Weiner missed his shot. they made a corrput bargain t fuck the average guy and will not be hed blameless in this mess.
Screw Wiener. He shilled for this bill and it should be hung around his neck. I'm sick of these ignorant idiots like wiener trying to CYA now that the results of their treasonous law are coming to fruitin that we all warned against.
Fuck that. wiener and all the far left incompetent assholes like himself who shoved it down our thrats need to go.
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Too late - we are broke and Weiner missed his shot. they made a corrput bargain t fuck the average guy and will not be hed blameless in this mess.
Screw Wiener. He shilled for this bill and it should be hung around his neck. I'm sick of these ignorant idiots like wiener trying to CYA now that the results of their treasonous law are coming to fruitin that we all warned against.
Fuck that. wiener and all the far left incompetent assholes like himself who shoved it down our thrats need to go.
he tried to get healthcare for first responders on 911 too.. some guys were like "screw them"
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Yes - the Zadroga bill is utter horseshit. I live here and know the details of the scam. Its another WTF on the taxpayer.
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Yes - the Zadroga bill is utter horseshit. I live here and know the details of the scam. Its another WTF on the taxpayer.
so it wasnt for first responders to get healthcare for ailments that came as a result of them helping during 911?
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so it wasnt for first responders to get healthcare for ailments that came as a result of them helping during 911?
its open to up to 70,000 people, most of who never stepped foot at GZ. most of those getting $$$ ar already covered under existing plans, and the lawyers for this bullshit are pocketing a huge amount of the cash.
Its all feel good bs that in reality screws the taxpayer.
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I had to go to a luncheon for work over this and its impacts on businesses put on by some ppl from a decent sized insurance company no less and they were pretty much totally against it.
They laid out what it would do to small businesses and and how it will likely raise the amount of uninsured in the country and undoubtedly raise premiums.
If i get a chance ill snag pics of the relevant powerpoint slides from the presentation they gave out.
This bill is complete and total shit my friends...
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I had to go to a luncheon for work over this and its impacts on businesses put on by some ppl from a decent sized insurance company no less and they were pretty much totally against it.
They laid out what it would do to small businesses and and how it will likely raise the amount of uninsured in the country and undoubtedly raise premiums.
If i get a chance ill snag pics of the relevant powerpoint slides from the presentation they gave out.
This bill is complete and total shit my friends...
If what 333 and you say is true then the bill is pure shit.
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but then again.. it is 333 saying it.. and his track record with me is sketchy at best...
but if tony says it.. then its legit
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but then again.. it is 333 saying it.. and his track record with me is sketchy at best...
but if tony says it.. then its legit
LOL i gotta be honest some of the stuff they were saying at this seminar seemed a little off to me so maybe when I post it straw or 240 will research it for me to see if they were actually telling the truth.
I dont know why they would lie to us maybe to get the different companies to consult with them about their health care plans, who knows.
if I get some time ill post some pics of the presentation.
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I had to go to a luncheon for work over this and its impacts on businesses put on by some ppl from a decent sized insurance company no less and they were pretty much totally against it.
They laid out what it would do to small businesses and and how it will likely raise the amount of uninsured in the country and undoubtedly raise premiums.
If i get a chance ill snag pics of the relevant powerpoint slides from the presentation they gave out.
This bill is complete and total shit my friends...
Its not like any of us didnt warn of this 24/7/365. ::) ::)
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here's what weiner really said ;D
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Its clear as day what he said jackass.
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no your bullshit slanted it one way, more of your half truths,like i said in another post you don't bother to check the facts.sorry but it makes you look like an idiot ;D
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no your bullshit slanted it one way, more of your half truths,like i said in another post you don't bother to check the facts.sorry but it makes you look like an idiot ;D
“The president said, ‘If you have better ideas that can accomplish the same thing, go for it,’” said Weiner. “I’m in the process now of trying to see if we can take [President Barack Obama] up on it in the city of New York, … and I’m taking a look at all of the money we spend in Medicaid and Medicare and maybe New York City can come up with a better plan.”
So what is he saying here? The great healthcare bill that was going to save us all simply isn't fiscally responsible for New York? What state does he represent again? Oh thats right waivers show us all how flexible the plan is ::). What a bunch of horse shit.
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no your bullshit slanted it one way, more of your half truths,like i said in another post you don't bother to check the facts.sorry but it makes you look like an idiot ;D
so the raising the medicare for ppl who are 133% of the poverty line and including ALL ADULTS and not just women with children was good when he was fighting for the bill but now its not?
I dont get it black ass, why was he for it then and now looking to get out from under it?
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so the raising the medicare for ppl who are 133% of the poverty line and including ALL ADULTS and not just women with children was good when he was fighting for the bill but now its not?
I dont get it black ass, why was he for it then and now looking to get out from under it?
why the insults, but if that's the way it works let me try. say a mother brings her retarded child, tonymctones,to the shoe store to buy a pair of shoes, most kids wear size 6, but her retarded son, tonymctones, wears a size 4 so she buys the size 4 because it fits her retarded son, tonymctones ,better. it's a little different but it accomplishes the same thing it covers her retarded sons feet. ;D
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Plagiarized Post reported.
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Plagiarized Post reported.
guy with no life reported :D :D :D :D
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why the insults, but if that's the way it works let me try. say a mother brings her retarded child, tonymctones,to the shoe store to buy a pair of shoes, most kids wear size 6, but her retarded son, tonymctones, wears a size 4 so she buys the size 4 because it fits her retarded son, tonymctones ,better. it's a little different but it accomplishes the same thing it covers her retarded sons feet. ;D
well see in obamas plan it also covers the adult male who has no job like yourself that depends on others like myself to pay their way.
Now you and your ilk are eligible for medicaid as well...
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no your bullshit slanted it one way, more of your half truths,like i said in another post you don't bother to check the facts.sorry but it makes you look like an idiot ;D
What's the spin jackass? Another epic Blacken failure.
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What's the spin jackass? Another epic Blacken failure.
If bamacare brought down prices, made it more competitive, and better- why would Weiner be seeking a waiver?
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If bamacare brought down prices, made it more competitive, and better- why would Weiner be seeking a waiver?
Weiner wants an insurance program called HaPNY to cover New Yorkers. Although I'm not familiar with all specifics, I know it's similar to Obamacare. Still doesn't change the fact that he doesn't want Obamacare. Blacken = retard.
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Weiner wants an insurance program called HaPNY to cover New Yorkers. Although I'm not familiar with all specifics, I know it's similar to Obamacare. Still doesn't change the fact that he doesn't want Obamacare. Blacken = retard.
skippy are you playing tough guy behind your keyboard :D :D
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Weiner: Waiver might work for N.Y.
By: Kate Nocera
March 23, 2011 04:37 PM EDT
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E237D0F7-D198-4A06-9F64-3DF700E014AB
Rep. Anthony Weiner said Wednesday he was looking into how a health law waiver might work for New York City.
Weiner, who is likely to run for mayor of New York, said that because of the city’s special health care infrastructure, his office was looking into alternatives that might make more sense. Weiner is one of the health care law’s biggest supporters; during the debate leading up to reform, he was one of the last holdouts in Congress for the public option.
“The president said, ‘If you have better ideas that can accomplish the same thing, go for it,’” said Weiner. “I’m in the process now of trying to see if we can take [President Barack Obama] up on it in the city of New York, … and I’m taking a look at all of the money we spend in Medicaid and Medicare and maybe New York City can come up with a better plan.”
New York is one of two states that pass on Medicaid expenses to cities and localities, so “the city winds up having an enormous Medicaid expense,” Weiner said.
The congressman was trying to debunk Republican “myths” about the health care law during a speech at the Center for American Progress. He used the waivers as way to describe how flexible the law actually is and how “this notion that the government is shoving the bill down people’s throats” is not true.
“The administration needs to make this argument more forcefully,” he said. “A lot of people who got waivers were … people who are our friends.”
The New York Democrat said that he does not have the power to get the city to apply for a waiver but that he is “personally looking at whether he can make the numbers work.”
“We in New York already have hospitals, we already employ doctors and we employ nurses. We have a lot of uninsured people. … [Setting up] the exchanges is the one piece of the puzzle that would be difficult for us to do,” he said. “I’m just looking internally to whether the city can save money and have more control over its own destiny.
Weiner is slated to hold at least five events on the anniversary of the Affordable Care Act and has been one of the most outspoken Democratic supporters of the law.
© 2011 Capitol News Company, LLC
________________________ ________________________ __________________
Case closed. This thing is a friggin disaster. End it now along with the Obama Admn.
When Straw man told me Bachmann was "loony" I told him for every one "loony" person he could come up with in the republican party, i could come with at least 5 "loony" Dems............Weiner was really at the top of my list!
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Being a fan of obama means never having to admit you were or are wrong.