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Title: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 24, 2011, 08:56:23 AM
am i the only getbigger who bought this game today?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: johnnynoname on March 24, 2011, 08:59:22 AM
It looks amazing however I'm gonna spend my time fiinishing off RDR to "LA Noire" comes out

I'm not a Rockstar fan boy, btw
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 24, 2011, 09:06:35 AM
It looks amazing however I'm gonna spend my time fiinishing off RDR to "LA Noire" comes out

I'm not a Rockstar fan boy, btw
red dead redemption is one of the best games i ever played imo. i hop crysis mets up with its hype. to bad my 50inch tv broke down last week so i only have a 32 inch midget tv now, but im going to get a 52 inch full hd lcd on monday cant wait
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 24, 2011, 09:09:44 AM
I'll just stay with Nascar and Madden Football.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2011, 09:15:39 AM
red dead redemption is one of the best games i ever played imo. i hop crysis mets up with its hype. to bad my 50inch tv broke down last week so i only have a 32 inch midget tv now, but im going to get a 52 inch full hd lcd on monday cant wait

I switched from a 50 to a 32 for gaming.  I find it better for multiplayer.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Mr. Magoo on March 24, 2011, 09:17:24 AM
I'm currently reading a a book on Plato's Phaedo
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 24, 2011, 09:17:38 AM
I switched from a 50 to a 32 for gaming.  I find it better for multiplayer.
cause its easier to see the enemies fast?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: johnnynoname on March 24, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
to bad my 50inch tv broke down last week so i only have a 32 inch midget tv now,

I'm, honestly, sorry to hear that
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Tito24 on March 24, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
bodybuilders cant read
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Meso_z on March 24, 2011, 09:34:01 AM
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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: TOMCAT on March 24, 2011, 09:36:43 AM
I just bought it haven't really had a chance to play it yet,I just finished killzone 3 which was a really good game.I always wanted to play it way back when it came out for the pc but never hada computer strong enough to run it.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on March 24, 2011, 09:39:46 AM

Looks really fucking cool!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: ironneck on March 24, 2011, 03:38:33 PM
the producer is a turk  8)
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: el numero uno on March 24, 2011, 03:47:34 PM
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lol I swear I thought for a seconds it said "A story of Synthol and Survival"  :D
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Emmortal on March 24, 2011, 03:54:52 PM
Is there an Atari 2600 port?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on March 24, 2011, 04:24:43 PM
cause its easier to see the enemies fast?

That's pretty much it.  Less real estate to cover.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: TommyBoy on March 24, 2011, 06:57:12 PM
Still playing Marvel vs Capcom 3. I actually need to finish Crysis 1 still.  :( TO MANY GAME SYNDROME
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 25, 2011, 12:27:10 AM
I just bought it haven't really had a chance to play it yet,I just finished killzone 3 which was a really good game.I always wanted to play it way back when it came out for the pc but never hada computer strong enough to run it.
my brother got it for his pc yesterday and he has a pretty good computer but have to play it on the lowest setting, but still kickass graphics. on a monster pc on the highest setting the graphic is crazy
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 25, 2011, 12:28:26 AM
I'm, honestly, sorry to hear that
yeah it sucks  :-[   
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Dr Dutch on March 25, 2011, 01:23:29 AM
"Games are for baby's. Arnold drinks beer!"
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 28, 2011, 02:27:44 AM
packing up my new 52 inch lg 52ld550n, crysis is going to look awesome on that one, the 32 dont give the same feeling when playing games like a bigger tv.

my friend hade a full hd projector with a 160inch screen (he painted it on the wall) and a awesome soundsystem. it was unreal playing on that one, cars where bigger than in reality when you played forza on it. fun to play on but on the long run it was way to big. full hd porn was just disgusting you could see every disease on the whores when they showed a closeup on the pussy
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on March 28, 2011, 02:31:36 AM
I will pick it up... I played it to prep for the commercial spots for our video editors... It's really good.

Also 3D enabled... I recommend playing on HIGH-END PC or PS3
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: JasonH on March 28, 2011, 03:20:22 AM
Started playing Crysis 2 yesterday - so far it is graphically impressive but I'm not liking the gameplay as much as the original - it's not really built around stealth as much and you can go running round blasting people without too much consideration for your surroundings - a bit like Call of Duty. You couldn't do that with the original - everything had to be thought out through stealth and it made the game longer with a lot more suspense. I hope it grows on me though.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 28, 2011, 03:43:21 AM
Started playing Crysis 2 yesterday - so far it is graphically impressive but I'm not liking the gameplay as much as the original - it's not really built around stealth as much and you can go running round blasting people without too much consideration for your surroundings - a bit like Call of Duty. You couldn't do that with the original - everything had to be thought out through stealth and it made the game longer with a lot more suspense. I hope it grows on me though.
ok, havent played the first. at first i tought the gameplay was good but nothing special but it did grow on me, om about half way in the game and the graphic is stunning. are you playing on a pc or consolle?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: JasonH on March 28, 2011, 04:39:19 AM
ok, havent played the first. at first i tought the gameplay was good but nothing special but it did grow on me, om about half way in the game and the graphic is stunning. are you playing on a pc or consolle?

Playing it on a PC - not sure how the graphics compare on a console but I'm impressed with these - fire, smoke, and water effects are especially good - my PC is only mid range - that's one thing this game has over the first - you had to have a top=spec PC just to get the recommended settings on the first game which was annoying and was probably the only thing that ruined it.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Steelrabbitt on March 28, 2011, 05:25:42 AM
Good game definitely. Single player is fun, MP needs some patching till its good. Still think killzone 3 is a better game and as far as MP goes I'd give it to either bad company 2 or killzone.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on March 28, 2011, 11:33:29 AM

Ok guys, I'm gonna ask a really gay question....

Is Crysis 2 Scary?


Go ahead laugh....  I'll admit it I get fucking scared so easily!!  One of the things holding me back from running out and buying it!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 28, 2011, 11:36:20 AM
Ok guys, I'm gonna ask a really gay question....

Is Crysis 2 Scary?


Go ahead laugh....  I'll admit it I get fucking scared so easily!!  One of the things holding me back from running out and buying it!

lol no its not like dead space
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 28, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
Ok guys, I'm gonna ask a really gay question....

Is Crysis 2 Scary?


Go ahead laugh....  I'll admit it I get fucking scared so easily!!  One of the things holding me back from running out and buying it!

Not as scaring as the Shining.

Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on March 28, 2011, 12:11:23 PM
lol no its not like dead space

LOL I mean fuck, I wasn't even talking about Dead Space (I dare not even attempt that game).... Arkham Asylum scares me lol
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Boost on March 28, 2011, 12:40:45 PM
LOL I mean fuck, I wasn't even talking about Dead Space (I dare not even attempt that game).... Arkham Asylum scares me lol
It's all about the environment your playing in.

A well lit room with family/friends chatting away = you'll be fine

A dimly lit basement at 4 am with no one home = better off with wii sports
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: JasonH on March 28, 2011, 03:15:44 PM
LOL I mean fuck, I wasn't even talking about Dead Space (I dare not even attempt that game).... Arkham Asylum scares me lol

Haha - Dead Space isn't that scary - try playing Doom 3 in a darkened room with headphones on. Then wait for someone to come into the room whilst you're playing without you knowing - you will shit your pants I kid you not.  8)
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on March 28, 2011, 04:12:38 PM
Haha - Dead Space isn't that scary - try playing Doom 3 in a darkened room with headphones on. Then wait for someone to come into the room whilst you're playing without you knowing - you will shit your pants I kid you not.  8)

Oh yeah, I've played Doom 3, fucking scary!  rumor has it there is a remake coming out soon!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on March 28, 2011, 06:41:19 PM
Haha - Dead Space isn't that scary - try playing Doom 3 in a darkened room with headphones on. Then wait for someone to come into the room whilst you're playing without you knowing - you will shit your pants I kid you not.  8)

I played Doom 3 on the Xbox over a night in a dark room, with stereo headphones and a big screen TV, all by myself. Had nightmares and woke up sweating for the next 3 days, lol - for real ;D
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on March 28, 2011, 09:06:42 PM
I played Doom 3 on the Xbox over a night in a dark room, with stereo headphones and a big screen TV, all by myself. Had nightmares and woke up sweating for the next 3 days, lol - for real ;D

LOL yeah that scary shit!!! I played one of the old Resident Evils in the middle of the night with my cousin in the dark, that scared the SHIT out of me!!

But it sucks, fucking everything scares me now:  Gears of War, Arkham Asylum, Halo......

damn it!  lol
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on March 28, 2011, 09:59:02 PM
LOL yeah that scary shit!!! I played one of the old Resident Evils in the middle of the night with my cousin in the dark, that scared the SHIT out of me!!

But it sucks, fucking everything scares me now:  Gears of War, Arkham Asylum, Halo......

damn it!  lol

You sound worse than me haha

I used to get really spooked by horror movies when I was a kid. Love that genre now, though.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 01, 2011, 09:03:32 AM

Playing it now....  Graphics are pretty fucking good,  I'm still in the very begining and only took out like 5 guys!!

Controls are quite fluid!!!  But I'm still on edge a bit lol
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 02, 2011, 02:51:34 AM
Playing it now....  Graphics are pretty fucking good,  I'm still in the very begining and only took out like 5 guys!!

Controls are quite fluid!!!  But I'm still on edge a bit lol
yeah the controlls are good, im near the end of this game =/
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 02, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
LOL yeah that scary shit!!! I played one of the old Resident Evils in the middle of the night with my cousin in the dark, that scared the SHIT out of me!!

But it sucks, fucking everything scares me now:  Gears of War, Arkham Asylum, Halo......

damn it!  lol

The dogs crashing through the window on the original Resident Evil was one of the scariest video game moments ever.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on April 02, 2011, 05:50:58 PM
LOL yeah that scary shit!!! I played one of the old Resident Evils in the middle of the night with my cousin in the dark, that scared the SHIT out of me!!

But it sucks, fucking everything scares me now:  Gears of War, Arkham Asylum, Halo......

damn it!  lol

If you get a chance, try "Thief: Deadly Shadows". It's a stealth game with tons of action and is one of the best Xbox games ever, maybe better than Splinter Cell. The graphics, storyline, atmosphere, voice acting, script and game play are all fantastic and the game itself is pretty long, so it's definitely worth buying.

http://www.amazon.com/Thief-Deadly-Shadows-Xbox/dp/B0001CNRQQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1301795579&sr=1-2

There's one level called "Shalebridge Cradle", where you break into an abandoned, haunted hospital that used to treat mental patients, who roam around as mummies/zombies. I kid you not - that level was spooky as shit.

Also, have you played anything from the Silent Hill series?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 02, 2011, 11:41:34 PM
If you get a chance, try "Thief: Deadly Shadows". It's a stealth game with tons of action and is one of the best Xbox games ever, maybe better than Splinter Cell. The graphics, storyline, atmosphere, voice acting, script and game play are all fantastic and the game itself is pretty long, so it's definitely worth buying.

http://www.amazon.com/Thief-Deadly-Shadows-Xbox/dp/B0001CNRQQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1301795579&sr=1-2

There's one level called "Shalebridge Cradle", where you break into an abandoned, haunted hospital that used to treat mental patients, who roam around as mummies/zombies. I kid you not - that level was spooky as shit.

Also, have you played anything from the Silent Hill series?

I love Splinter Cell!!!  

But I heard Thief was scaaary like none other!  And as you can read above - I don't do scary games... I don't do scary anything!!!!  ???
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 02, 2011, 11:47:54 PM


Crysis 2 is cool though, it feels like I'm predator VS the Marines - I still haven't gotten to the aliens yet, and quite frankly, I'm kinda scared to get to them!!! fuck!!!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on April 02, 2011, 11:49:39 PM
I love Splinter Cell!!! 

But I heard Thief was scaaary like none other!  And as you can read above - I don't do scary games... I don't do scary anything!!!!  ???

Same here - I'm a HUGE fan of the Splinter Cell series.

Thief is scary, but only in a couple of levels, including the one I mentioned. But the rest of the game is awesome, so you should try it sometime. You'll love it.

BTW, what game on the Xbox do you think is the hardest? I played Ninja Gaiden, which is probably one of the best and hardest games to play. Like Thief, it's also got a pretty long campaign, so try that out if you haven't.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 02, 2011, 11:56:10 PM
Same here - I'm a HUGE fan of the Splinter Cell series.

Thief is scary, but only in a couple of levels, including the one I mentioned. But the rest of the game is awesome, so you should try it sometime. You'll love it.

BTW, what game on the Xbox do you think is the hardest? I played Ninja Gaiden, which is probably one of the best and hardest games to play. Like Thief, it's also got a pretty long campaign, so try that out if you haven't.

I just bought Vanquish a few weeks ago.... AWESOME game, but gets very hard very fast!!!  I'm at the very first boss and he keeps owning my ass!!!  Every single review I've read has commented about how difficult it is!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/vanquish/review.html?tag=summary%3Bread-review




One of my favorite games which I just beat 2 days ago is an Xbox Live Arcade game called Shadow Complex - soooo addictive, if you were a fan of the original Metroid series back in the day, this game is for you:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/shadowcomplex/review.html?tag=summary%3Bread-review
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on April 02, 2011, 11:57:50 PM
Thanks man, I'll check them out
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2011, 12:02:01 AM
god damnit how can ea let a game with such a big glitch go trough. After i defeated a pinger the wall falls down and 2 jeeps dive out of it. Then some guy gets out the humvee and my mission is to regroup at him. If i go to him nothing happens, after like 20 min he starts to walk arround abit but nothing more. this shit has happened to alot of player and the only thing i could do to progress in the game was to start a new chapter so i lost alot the things i have got trough the game. when i did that and defeated the pinger and regrouped with the homos the game started to load to the next chapter.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 03, 2011, 12:04:15 AM
god damnit how can ea let a game with such a big glitch go trough. After i defeated a pinger the wall falls down and 2 jeeps dive out of it. Then some guy gets out the humvee and my mission is to regroup at him. If i go to him nothing happens, after like 20 min he starts to walk arround abit but nothing more. this shit has happened to alot of player and the only thing i could do to progress in the game was to start a new chapter so i lost alot the things i have got trough the game. when i did that and defeated the pinger and regrouped with the homos the game started to load to the next chapter.



Oh that sucks man!!!  Fucking blows!!!  What platform are you playing it on out of curiousity?  I have it on my PC.... but like I said I'm still too early in the game to pick up on any glitches!!

Seriously, Mensa Bob....  Am I gonna shit my pants when I see the Aliens for the first time?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 03, 2011, 12:16:50 AM

Oh that sucks man!!!  Fucking blows!!!  What platform are you playing it on out of curiousity?  I have it on my PC.... but like I said I'm still too early in the game to pick up on any glitches!!

Seriously, Mensa Bob....  Am I gonna shit my pants when I see the Aliens for the first time?
ps3, but alot of xbox players have hade that shit to, dont know about pc players.

and yes, you are going to shit your pants and move home to your parents again so you can sleep btw them :d
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 03, 2011, 08:23:57 AM
ps3, but alot of xbox players have hade that shit to, dont know about pc players.

and yes, you are going to shit your pants and move home to your parents again so you can sleep btw them :d

Maaaan, I wish the whole game was just me whoopin a bunch of confused Marines, cause I feel like a bad ass right now!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 04, 2011, 12:30:48 AM
Maaaan, I wish the whole game was just me whoopin a bunch of confused Marines, cause I feel like a bad ass right now!!!!  ;D
lol it is a badass game, and no i just trolled about the scary part :D
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 04, 2011, 04:22:14 AM
lol it is a badass game, and no i just trolled about the scary part :D

You know I just realized, if one has a 3D capable PC, the game has an option to switch it into 3D!   Same thing on the PS3 or no?  Because I know the new Killzone can be played in 3D on the PS3!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 04, 2011, 06:53:21 AM
You know I just realized, if one has a 3D capable PC, the game has an option to switch it into 3D!   Same thing on the PS3 or no?  Because I know the new Killzone can be played in 3D on the PS3!
no idea if you can do that. just finnished the game, thinking about playing it again.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 04, 2011, 12:05:12 PM
no idea if you can do that. just finnished the game, thinking about playing it again.

Yes, it's 3D capable... The PS3 and PC both do 3D. if you have the correct hardware.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 04, 2011, 12:30:42 PM
Yes, it's 3D capable... The PS3 and PC both do 3D. if you have the correct hardware.

Lame that Xthat BOX never stepped up into the 3D game....  hell.. they didn't even step up into Blu Ray Compatibility!  So weak!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 04, 2011, 01:06:27 PM
Lame that Xthat BOX never stepped up into the 3D game....  hell.. they didn't even step up into Blu Ray Compatibility!  So weak!

They never did blu-ray because they'd have to pay Sony, which they're never going to do.  Plus, in the future, streaming is where it's at.

As for 3d gaming, it's pretty lame at this point, and take major frame rate hits.  There's no market for it anyway - it didn't help Killzone 3 sales.

You making any Gears progress?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 04, 2011, 01:55:11 PM
They never did blu-ray because they'd have to pay Sony, which they're never going to do.  Plus, in the future, streaming is where it's at.

As for 3d gaming, it's pretty lame at this point, and take major frame rate hits.  There's no market for it anyway - it didn't help Killzone 3 sales.

You making any Gears progress?

Nah, haven't touched gears in a very long time, was busy with Shadow Complex, and Halo Reach lol.... need to get back into it!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 04, 2011, 06:37:04 PM
Lame that Xthat BOX never stepped up into the 3D game....  hell.. they didn't even step up into Blu Ray Compatibility!  So weak!
They never did blu-ray because they'd have to pay Sony, which they're never going to do.  Plus, in the future, streaming is where it's at.

As for 3d gaming, it's pretty lame at this point, and take major frame rate hits.  There's no market for it anyway - it didn't help Killzone 3 sales.

You making any Gears progress?

Well, I personally am more upset they didn't go blu-ray as an add on because of the fact that to date, the PS3 is still the world's best blu-ray player... I'm not talking about games... A game is still only about 3 or so Gigabytes max after compilation and compression, but the blu-ray player for movies... That's a big win for Sony.

I wouldn't care about the PS3 half as much if it didn't have a blu-ray player for all my new netflix movies. I think Microsoft missed the boat there.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: ksa_triceps on April 04, 2011, 06:56:40 PM
You know I just realized, if one has a 3D capable PC, the game has an option to switch it into 3D!   Same thing on the PS3 or no?  Because I know the new Killzone can be played in 3D on the PS3!

3D is a gimmick and it's the worst thing to happen to tvs.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 04, 2011, 07:16:23 PM
3D is a gimmick and it's the worst thing to happen to tvs.

For my PhD right now I'm actually working on a research paper on why today's 3DTV's sales have been less than stellar, and the development of glasses free 3D Tv technology and transferring them from prototype to mass production...

The research I'm doing made me realize how happy I am that I didn't buy a 3DTV when I bought a new TV last winter!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 04, 2011, 07:32:28 PM
3D is a gimmick and it's the worst thing to happen to tvs.

This is true... a lot of people in the industry (including video directors and the like) also agree with this statement. I think it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: ksa_triceps on April 04, 2011, 07:48:55 PM
For my PhD right now I'm actually working on a research paper on why today's 3DTV's sales have been less than stellar, and the development of glasses free 3D Tv technology and transferring them from prototype to mass production...

The research I'm doing made me realize how happy I am that I didn't buy a 3DTV when I bought a new TV last winter!

The problem with that is that from what I noticed is that it raised TV prices and you as a customer must pay for this technological flop with most new high-end TV.

Good luck with your PHD Big Ahmad!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 05, 2011, 05:28:38 AM
Well, I personally am more upset they didn't go blu-ray as an add on because of the fact that to date, the PS3 is still the world's best blu-ray player... I'm not talking about games... A game is still only about 3 or so Gigabytes max after compilation and compression, but the blu-ray player for movies... That's a big win for Sony.

I wouldn't care about the PS3 half as much if it didn't have a blu-ray player for all my new netflix movies. I think Microsoft missed the boat there.


PS3 is a very good blu-ray player but it got lapped about a year ago and is no longer the best.  Still great though in that respect.

I can't really say MS missed the boat, since they'd have to pay Sony a fee, and they still beat Sony in console sales, despite getting almost nothing in the Japanese market.  They beat them overall while only getting sales in two of the three markets.  That's a  big win.

Plus, many forget a short time ago it was HD Dvd vs. Bluray.  The 360 had an HD DvD player add on.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 05, 2011, 12:54:23 PM
PS3 is a very good blu-ray player but it got lapped about a year ago and is no longer the best.  Still great though in that respect.

I can't really say MS missed the boat, since they'd have to pay Sony a fee, and they still beat Sony in console sales, despite getting almost nothing in the Japanese market.  They beat them overall while only getting sales in two of the three markets.  That's a  big win.

Plus, many forget a short time ago it was HD Dvd vs. Bluray.  The 360 had an HD DvD player add on.
No, I remember they had an HD-DVD add on, but unfortunately, the studios didn't go that route... They went bluray... So goes life.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 05, 2011, 11:17:55 PM
PS3 is a very good blu-ray player but it got lapped about a year ago and is no longer the best.  Still great though in that respect.

I can't really say MS missed the boat, since they'd have to pay Sony a fee, and they still beat Sony in console sales, despite getting almost nothing in the Japanese market.  They beat them overall while only getting sales in two of the three markets.  That's a  big win.

Plus, many forget a short time ago it was HD Dvd vs. Bluray.  The 360 had an HD DvD player add on.
in what way are they better?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 06, 2011, 03:35:32 AM
in what way are they better?

I've often maintained that the PS3 is the best blu-ray player based upon the fact it's software based for most functions.

You can update the software for most new functions and it will just go. That's just my take on it.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 07, 2011, 08:16:43 AM
in what way are they better?

For starters, they're half the price now.  The also have better audio codecs, true-3d, etc...

It wasn't a knock on the PS3, just saying that others players now have a few features that are a little better, and much cheaper.   I loved my PS3 blu-ray.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 07, 2011, 10:37:37 PM
For starters, they're half the price now.  The also have better audio codecs, true-3d, etc...

It wasn't a knock on the PS3, just saying that others players now have a few features that are a little better, and much cheaper.   I loved my PS3 blu-ray.
no it was a serious question cause i didnt know in what way they are better =)


to be honest if ps3 didnt have the blue ray player i dont think they would have sold as many consolles as they have, i know i bought the ps3 mainly because of it, otherwise i think i would have gone for the xbox.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 07, 2011, 11:24:15 PM
For starters, they're half the price now.  The also have better audio codecs, true-3d, etc...

It wasn't a knock on the PS3, just saying that others players now have a few features that are a little better, and much cheaper.   I loved my PS3 blu-ray.

The PS3 does everything in software... Everything you're mentioning can be done to the PS3.

Just make sure you update the software regularly.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 08, 2011, 04:50:34 AM
The PS3 does everything in software... Everything you're mentioning can be done to the PS3.

Just make sure you update the software regularly.


Other blu-rays have better audio codecs.  That's all true.

Yes, the PS3 has the ability to get firmware upgrades, as to most blu-ray players.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 11, 2011, 02:57:13 PM
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I can't really say MS missed the boat, since they'd have to pay Sony a fee, and they still beat Sony in console sales, despite getting almost nothing in the Japanese market.  They beat them overall while only getting sales in two of the three markets.  That's a  big win.


wrong

http://www.lensoftruth.com/news/ps3-surpasses-xbox-360-now-number-2-home-console-worldwide/

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
wrong

http://www.lensoftruth.com/news/ps3-surpasses-xbox-360-now-number-2-home-console-worldwide/

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Earl, Earl, Earl.

I wasn't aware that the Sun Herald of South Mississippi had become the definitive source for console sales within the industry.

Since you really don't know much about this stuff, I'll give you a hint - go find NPD data or something from Michael Pachter and then we'll see what really going on.

But anyway, the article mentioned that "worldwide" demand has been great for the PS3.  As stated before, this is because they are spotted a minimum of 5 million consoles from Japan alone.  The Japanese don't buy the 360, and never will.  The PS3 outsells the XBox in Europe, but the XBox still dominates the most important American market.  In theory, it should not be able to even be close, getting sales in only 2 of the three major markets.

Seriously, though,  I forgot which games you played before you sold your 360 for the PS3.  What were they again?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 11, 2011, 05:08:40 PM
Keep in mind that the Xbox360 had a full year on the PS3 in terms of release date and these numbers are not accurate as of today... I expect by this winter, the PS3 will overtake the Xbox 360 in terms of numbers both worldwide and North America.

Worldwide sales figures

    Wii – 84.64 million as of 31 December 2010[8]
    Xbox 360 – 50 million as of 6 January 2011[30]
    PlayStation 3 – 47.9 million as of 31 December 2010[31]

Japan sales figures

    Wii – 11,534,590 as of 1 April 2011[32]
    PlayStation 3 – 6,341,950 as of 1 April 2011[32]
    Xbox 360 – 1,448,665 as of 1 April 2011[32]

Europe sales figures

NOTE: Figures include UK sales, which are listed below.

    PlayStation 3 – 16 million as of 17 August 2010[33]

United Kingdom sales figures

    Wii – 8.3 million as of 1 October 2010[34]
    Xbox 360 – 3.9 million as of 13 January 2009[35]
    PlayStation 3 - 3 million as of 25 January 2010[36]

United States sales figures

    Wii – 30 million as of 10 August 2010[37]
    Xbox 360 – 18.6 million as of 31 December 2009[38]
    PlayStation 3 - nearly 12 million as of 14 April 2010[39]
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
I expect by this winter, the PS3 will overtake the Xbox 360 in terms of numbers both worldwide and North America.


Why do you believe that?  It doesn't appear to be the trend by the numbers you posted.  But anyway, some of those totals are from December 2009 and the 360 destroyed the PS3 during the 2010 and 2011 holiday season.

And to be honest, I really care who really wins this stuff.  Both consoles are very good machines.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 11, 2011, 05:34:28 PM
Why do you believe that?  It doesn't appear to be the trend by the numbers you posted.  But anyway, some of those totals are from December 2009 and the 360 destroyed the PS3 during the 2010 and 2011 holiday season.

And to be honest, I really care who really wins this stuff.  Both consoles are very good machines.

Yes, I really believe that.

Latest data is showing games which are released on both platforms is being sold ever so slightly more on the PS3... I expect that is because the PS3 has either come very close to or is already beating the PS3.

I do realize some of the numbers are old... However, I do not believe the Xbox 360 sold more worldwide than the PS3 did during 2010 Holiday. The empirical data does not support that belief. That said, until someone releases more sales numbers (which as of yet, they both appear unable to do) then either way... Nintendo wins.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 06:00:23 PM


Latest data is showing games which are released on both platforms is being sold ever so slightly more on the PS3... I expect that is because the PS3 has either come very close to or is already beating the PS3.  

Please post where you're getting this from.  I can almost guarantee if you take a sample of Red Dead Redemption, CoD Black Ops and even Crysis 2 you will find this statement to be entirely incorrect.

I do realize some of the numbers are old... However, I do not believe the Xbox 360 sold more worldwide than the PS3 did during 2010 Holiday. The empirical data does not support that belief. That said, until someone releases more sales numbers (which as of yet, they both appear unable to do) then either way... Nintendo wins.

There is no holiday season around the world.  Foreign stuff is tracked by EEDAR and it's not been the most reliable.   I really can't see how you're drawing these conclusions.  What is the empirical data?

Anyway, the vast majority of hardware and software sales reported to the media are actually shipped totals, reported by each publisher and console maker, not actual sales.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 11, 2011, 06:03:15 PM
Please post where you're getting this from.  I can almost guarantee if you take a same of Red Dead Redemption, CoD Black Ops and even Crysis 2 you will find this statement to be entirely incorrect.

There is no holiday season around the world.  Foreign stuff is tracked by EEDAR and it's not been the most reliable.   I really can't see how you're drawing these conclusions.

Anyway, the vast majority of hardware and software sales reported to the media are actually shipped totals, reported by each publisher and console maker, not actual sales.

The latest ranking of Marvel vs. Capcom for instance.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DDpGeRaKa8k/TXBqjIV0G5I/AAAAAAAABZo/op2ZjrnDYh4/s1600/PS3+vs+Xbox+360+Marvel+vs.+Capcom+3+February+Sales+Ranks.jpg)

Also in looking at the sales we have at the company store, I see what I see.

Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 11, 2011, 06:21:38 PM
Gamestop says I'm wrong about the Xbox360 in the states, but that have been overtaken in Europe by the PS3.

North America

Wii – 34.2 million units
Xbox 360 – 25.4 million units
PS3 – 15.4 million units
DS – 47.3 million units
PSP – 19 million units

Europe

Wii – 24.9 million units
PS3 – 14.7 million units
Xbox 360 – 13.7 million units
DS – 46 million units
PSP – 14.8 million units
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 06:22:02 PM
The latest ranking of Marvel vs. Capcom for instance.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DDpGeRaKa8k/TXBqjIV0G5I/AAAAAAAABZo/op2ZjrnDYh4/s1600/PS3+vs+Xbox+360+Marvel+vs.+Capcom+3+February+Sales+Ranks.jpg)

Also in looking at the sales we have at the company store, I see what I see.



You've picked a niche title.  But even ignoring that, you picked the one game that is  the exception other than the Final Fantasy series.  And a big reason is because all the fighting game tournaments are played on the PS3.  But it's small potatoes and doesn't prove the theory.  Use your source to pick the biggest selling games like Black Ops and Red Dead redemption.  I already know the answer, but you should look at this stuff if you're interested.

I'll pick three games to be released:  Mass Effect 3, LA Noire, and Elder Scrolls V, all future cross platform releases.  Want to make a bet that they all sell better on the 360?  Loser has to use the avatar of the winner's choice for two months.

I hope you understand that I try to back all my claims up with factual data, and am not just spewing pro Microsoft stuff.
 
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 06:23:26 PM
Gamestop says I'm wrong about the Xbox360 in the states, but that have been overtaken in Europe by the PS3.


This is what I've been saying:  360 dominates the NA market, loses slightly in Europe, and is non existant in Japan, but wins overall.

The PS3 cannot possibly catch up in NA.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 11, 2011, 07:19:55 PM
Earl, Earl, Earl.

I wasn't aware that the Sun Herald of South Mississippi had become the definitive source for console sales within the industry.

Since you really don't know much about this stuff, I'll give you a hint - go find NPD data or something from Michael Pachter and then we'll see what really going on.

But anyway, the article mentioned that "worldwide" demand has been great for the PS3.  As stated before, this is because they are spotted a minimum of 5 million consoles from Japan alone.  The Japanese don't buy the 360, and never will.  The PS3 outsells the XBox in Europe, but the XBox still dominates the most important American market.  In theory, it should not be able to even be close, getting sales in only 2 of the three major markets.

Seriously, though,  I forgot which games you played before you sold your 360 for the PS3.  What were they again?

no no no you find me these supposed links that say the 360 has sold more, you say they exist you can post them, i posted my link

i never had a 360, why would i buy an inferior console :D

though i did play all of their exclusives like halo, gears, fable, left for dead, alan wake etc

the console war is over, sony has won AGAIN 8)

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 11, 2011, 07:20:20 PM
This is what I've been saying:  360 dominates the NA market, loses slightly in Europe, and is non existant in Japan, but wins overall.

The PS3 cannot possibly catch up in NA.
I think it can... Remember the PS3 is much more powerful and was said to be on the shelves for 10 years before they would release the playstation 4.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 11, 2011, 07:25:23 PM
the ps3 would've led all along if 360 wasn't released a year earlier and about $200 cheaper than the ps3

people continue to buy 360 because that is what their friends had, oh and how many rebought a console because of the rrod or they wanted a slim?

you are a fanboy "grape ape", don't deny it you said this console war was over before it truly began

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 07:37:39 PM
no no no you find me these supposed links that say the 360 has sold more, you say they exist you can post them, i posted my link

You posted a link to a blog who had a dead link to a newspaper from southern mississippi.  It didn't give any factual data, just an analysts' speculation.   NPD is the real data, and there's tons of links - look what Tu posted.  He found the real deal which refutes your post.   Completely supports what I've said.

the console war is over, sony has won AGAIN 8)

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Only according to you, and nothing else.  I know you're just baiting me at this point.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 11, 2011, 07:41:03 PM
the ps3 would've led all along if 360 wasn't released a year earlier and about $200 cheaper than the ps3

Of course.  Because you said it would.

people continue to buy 360 because that is what their friends had, oh and how many rebought a console because of the rrod or they wanted a slim?

The rrod was covered under warranty.  And you can apply the Slim reasoning to the PS3 as well.   I actually own one.  Sold my original, got another one.

you are a fanboy "grape ape", don't deny it you said this console war was over before it truly began

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Now, THAT'S funny.  And I don't actually believe you don't think you're the most fanboi of all fanbois.  You really never back up any of your stuff with anything other than your opinion.   Your link was cute, though.

I don't blame you though.  You love your console, but don't have any real knowledge of the industry or the business behind it.  Which is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 11, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
still waiting for the link and your "facts"

"microsoft wins this console generation" - grape ape in 2008 ::)

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2011, 04:25:42 AM
still waiting for the link and your "facts"

"microsoft wins this console generation" - grape ape in 2008 ::)

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As I've told you countless times, you're free to google NPD data.  And I haven't posted a link because I just expect you to deny the source.

But since you keep bringing it up.  Here's a link to vgchartz.  You can sort it by software/hardware/date.  It backs up what I've been saying and what Tu posted the second time.    Shows cross platform sales by title where you can see the 360s advantage there.

http://www.vgchartz.com/hardware_totals.php

NPD is one of the leaded market research groups out there.  Data is difficult to find at times, but here's a link to the November 2010 holiday season:

http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2010/12/10/game-consoles-november-2010-npd-sales-figure-analysis/

Here's a highlight from that:
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The figures for US sales in November 2010 are below, ranked in order of number of sales (November 2009 figures also shown, including percentage change):

    Xbox 360: 1,370,000 (Total: 23.5 million; November 2009: 819,500 – up 67%)
    Wii: 1,270,000  (Total: 31.8 million; November 2009: 1,260,000 – up 1%)
    PS3: 530,000 (Total: 14.2 million; November 2009: 710,400 – down 25%)

But it’s clear that the PlayStation Move hasn’t had the same impact on the PS3 as Kinect has had on the Xbox 360, and it seems to have had no effect on Wii sales either. And with ever dropping prices on Blu-ray players, the PS3’s inclusion of Blu-ray playback is less of a drawcard than ever before.



I don't know why it is important to you that the PS3 out sell the 360.  You can still tuck it into bed at night and tell it "don't worry, you're number one to ME".
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 12, 2011, 12:04:36 PM
actually you're the one that has been saying for years that the 360 is superior, i actually believed at one point that the ps3 was inferior but i know better now

i evolved while you are stuck in 2008 and i hold you responsible for almost causing me to waste money on the 360 ;)

it doesn't matter whose link is right (your link is before the holiday season ::)), ps3 isn't far behind considering the year head start and cheaper price 360 had and ps3 will sell more in the end


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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2011, 12:42:16 PM
actually you're the one that has been saying for years that the 360 is superior, i actually believed at one point that the ps3 was inferior but i know better now  

All things considered, it is.  And your opinion is completely worthless on the subject since you haven't owned both systems.


i evolved while you are stuck in 2008 and i hold you responsible for almost causing me to waste money on the 360 ;)

it doesn't matter whose link is right (your link is before the holiday season ::)), ps3 isn't far behind considering the year head start and cheaper price 360 had and ps3 will sell more in the end

Let's see, my link's source is one of the leading market research companies, is considered the video game industry benchmark,  uses real data, and backs up everything I've said.   You stormed in with a dead link from a blog  to a southern mississippi newspaper that used an analysts' speculation and proclaimed that everything I said was wrong.   Yes, my link was up to November of last year and showed the 360's sales gaining while the PS3's were dropping.  I'm sure it all changed after that.  Just face it, you're wrong, and really don't understand the industry or the way it works.

It's almost impossible for the PS3 to catch up.   The math doesn't work at this stage of the console's life cycle.

You're really making this too easy.  Here's December 2010

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The figures for US sales in December 2010 are below, ranked in order of number of sales (December 2009 figures also shown, including percentage change):

    * Wii: 2,360,000  (Total: 34.2 million; December 2009: 3,810,000 – down 38%)
    * Xbox 360: 1,860,000 (Total: 25.4 million; December 2009: 1,310,000 – up 42%)
    * PS3: 1,210,000 (Total: 15.5 million; December 2009: 1,360,000 – down 11%)

You should hope I am stuck in 2008 - the 360s been kicking the living shit out of the PS3 ever since then.

Here's more:

http://www.winrumors.com/npd-xbox-360-tops-console-sales-in-february/

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Market research company NPD released its latest sales figures on Thursday. Despite a temporary slip in December (due to shortages), Microsoft’s Xbox 360 console has dominated the charts for 9 months. The Xbox 360 outsold both the Wii and Sony PlayStation 3 in February with 535,000 units. The sales figures are up 27% from the same period last year. “It’s a great month for us,” Xbox spokesman David Dennis told seattlepi.com, noting that Feburary 2011 was the Xbox’s biggest ever non-holiday month

6 years into the console's life and they just had their biggest non-holiday month and even beat the Wii.  Want to keep blaming the head start?  But hey, go on believing anything you want.  Did the Ravens win the Super Bowl this year too?

Should we bet on March?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 12, 2011, 01:20:31 PM
i already told you i have played all of 360's exclusives, what else am i missing?  cross game chat that i have to pay for ::)

your link is before the holiday season, which was what 6 months ago?  ps3 is just coming into it's own, 360 has peaked and the only thing that can keep it ahead is that lame gimmick kinect that people bought before it even had games

there is more to this world than america where people buy things due to oprah hyping it up ::)

i guarantee ps3 will have sold more when all is said and done, that is something you will have to live with ;)

have fun with gears of bore 3, hope that keeps you busy until the next console generation hahahha ;D

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2011, 06:16:05 PM


your link is before the holiday season
, which was what 6 months ago?  ps3 is just coming into it's own, 360 has peaked and the only thing that can keep it ahead is that lame gimmick kinect that people bought before it even had games

I see reading comprehension isn't your strong point.  I posted November 2010, DECEMBER 2010 and trailing 9 months up until February 2011.  So, really, what the fuck are you talking about?  ;D   Seriously HERE IT IS AGAIN:


http://www.winrumors.com/npd-xbox-360-tops-console-sales-in-february/

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Market research company NPD released its latest sales figures on Thursday. Despite a temporary slip in December (due to shortages), Microsoft’s Xbox 360 console has dominated the charts for 9 months. The Xbox 360 outsold both the Wii and Sony PlayStation 3 in February with 535,000 units. The sales figures are up 27% from the same period last year. “It’s a great month for us,” Xbox spokesman David Dennis told seattlepi.com, noting that Feburary 2011 was the Xbox’s biggest ever non-holiday month


i guarantee ps3 will have sold more when all is said and done, that is something you will have to live with ;)

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Levrone has a better chance of winning the Olympia than this happening.   Read it all again.  Slowly.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 12, 2011, 07:43:55 PM
what difference does it make, you said the console war was over in 2008 so no surprise you think it's over now

you were wrong then, you will be wrong in the future, and everybody that has played both knows ps3 is better and according to this more worldwide sales 8)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/apr/05/ps3-overtakes-xbox360



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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 12, 2011, 08:00:41 PM
what difference does it make, you said the console war was over in 2008 so no surprise you think it's over now

you were wrong then, you will be wrong in the future, and everybody that has played both knows ps3 is better and according to this more worldwide sales 8)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/apr/05/ps3-overtakes-xbox360

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Read your own article dipshit:

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Which would appear to mean that these figures aren't based on raw sales data, they're based on some sort of algorithmic alchemy that seeks to determine how many of the consoles are being played with, and how many are gathering dust inside cupboards, or propping open annoying fire doors. That's surely the market statistical equivalent of trying to track down and quantify the Higgs boson particle, and I'm willing to bet Strategy Analytics do not have a Large Hadron Collider in their cellar. Though, of course, their maths could well be much more scrupulous than the phrase 'assumptions about device retirement' suggests.

So you keep searching for unicorns, and I'll use real data from the industry standard market research company.

So you're wrong again, and I've been right all along.  Unless you believe all the data that the industry uses to measure sales is wrong, and Earl1972 from the  Getbig message boards is actually the standard.  And, seeing how you structure an argument, I'm starting to believe you just might.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 13, 2011, 12:43:23 AM
got rrod on my xbox but there service was fantastic, didnt have to do shit besides pack it in a box, they paid for everything even came home to me to get the xbox and deliver it.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 12:00:36 PM
I think if you're a solo gamer... the PS3 is by far the best, but if you like online play, you can't beat the Xbox live service.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 12:02:34 PM
I think if you're a solo gamer... the PS3 is by far the best, but if you like online play, you can't beat the Xbox live service.

I agree with you on Live, but I just thing the other side just boils down to personal preference, and there is no wrong answer.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 03:55:45 PM
Read your own article dipshit:

So you keep searching for unicorns, and I'll use real data from the industry standard market research company.

So you're wrong again, and I've been right all along.  Unless you believe all the data that the industry uses to measure sales is wrong, and Earl1972 from the  Getbig message boards is actually the standard.  And, seeing how you structure an argument, I'm starting to believe you just might.

name calling hahaha fanboy getting angry ;D

your favorite console's days as number 1 are coming to an end very soon, how will you sleep at night?

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 03:56:38 PM
I think if you're a solo gamer... the PS3 is by far the best, but if you like online play, you can't beat the Xbox live service.

i'll take the free service

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 05:37:41 PM
name calling hahaha fanboy getting angry ;D

your favorite console's days as number 1 are coming to an end very soon, how will you sleep at night?

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I knew there could be no factual rebuttal.

How will I sleep?  Well, most likely after a little time with my 360 or my PS3.  I honestly couldn't give a shit that the 360 outsold the PS3.  I'll continue to use both of them.

Oh, and by the way, Mike Tomlin wears women's underwear.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 05:40:52 PM
i'll take the free service

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I'll take the one where games like MW2 weren't decimated by hackers, can have cross game voice chat, where voice works in every game, and where downloads are quick and install at the same time.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:04:06 PM
I knew there could be no factual rebuttal.

How will I sleep?  Well, most likely after a little time with my 360 or my PS3.  I honestly couldn't give a shit that the 360 outsold the PS3.  I'll continue to use both of them.

Oh, and by the way, Mike Tomlin wears women's underwear.

yes you do care, that is why you alwaqys debate it and will tell everybody that the 360 is better, not to mention always brining up sales when claiming 360 is better

how on earth would you know what underwear another man wears? ???

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:07:56 PM
I'll take the one where games like MW2 weren't decimated by hackers, can have cross game voice chat, where voice works in every game, and where downloads are quick and install at the same time.

who is still playing mw 2?

who needs to chat while playing a game?  am i the only one that doesn't want to be bothered while playing?  with phones, email and facebook i think we are connected with people more than enough

i'm willing to wait a little longer for ZERO dollars


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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 06:18:33 PM
yes you do care, that is why you alwaqys debate it and will tell everybody that the 360 is better

how on earth would you know what underwear another man wears? ???

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I don't care.  In any medium, I just hate when somebody throws out statements as fact when they're just blatantly untrue and can be easily proved wrong.  This particular category is one I have ties to, and happen to know stuff about.  I know Sony's taken a bath on the PS3, at one point jeopardizing the PS4.  It happens though, no system dominates for three cycles.  Sony was on its third playstation, and got beat by Nintendo and Microsoft.

But, as I've stated many, many times, I don't argue about what constitutes a great game to someone, since it's a completely subjective argument, and has no wrong answers.  What is good to one is crap to someone else.

The Tomlin thing was just for fun because I think this discussion has run its course.  I think Tomlin's the fucking man, and I'm  Giants fan.  I like Coughlin, but would love to have a coach like Tomlin.

Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:24:51 PM
I don't care.  In any medium, I just hate when somebody throws out statements as fact when they're just blatantly untrue and can be easily proved wrong.  This particular category is one I have ties to, and happen to know stuff about.  I know Sony's taken a bath on the PS3, at one point jeopardizing the PS4.  It happens though, no system dominates for three cycles.  Sony was on its third playstation, and got beat by Nintendo and Microsoft.

But, as I've stated many, many times, I don't argue about what constitutes a great game to someone, since it's a completely subjective argument, and has no wrong answers.  What is good to one is crap to someone else.

The Tomlin thing was just for fun because I think this discussion has run its course.  I think Tomlin's the fucking man, and I'm  Giants fan.  I like Coughlin, but would love to have a coach like Tomlin.

you speak too soon, the console war is far from over because it will be awhile before the next one is released

sony will not dominate but they will win

what are your favorite 360 games anyways?  exclusive games

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
Talking exclusivity is pointless... no one makes better exclusive games than Nintendo.

On the Xbox you get Halo.

On the PS3 you get Metal Gear Solid? (Is that even an exclusive?) Banjoo Kazooie? I dunno what's exclusive on the PS3 honestly.

Let's be clear though, none of them will compare to whatever Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Super Smash Brothers type of shit on the Nintendo machine.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on April 13, 2011, 06:31:09 PM
you speak too soon, the console war is far from over because it will be awhile before the next one is released

sony will not dominate but they will win

what are your favorite 360 games anyways?  exclusive games

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Seen any good horrors lately, Earl? I heard Insidious is pretty good but haven't seen it yet.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:35:49 PM
Seen any good horrors lately, Earl? I heard Insidious is pretty good but haven't seen it yet.

no dude, can't you see that i've become a video game nerd, i hardly have time for movies :)

heavy rain was pretty intense, ps3 exclusive 8)

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: kiwiol on April 13, 2011, 06:37:21 PM
no dude, can't you see that i've become a video game nerd, i hardly have time for movies :)

heavy rain was pretty intense, ps3 exclusive 8)

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Haha alright then. I'm a hardcore gamer myself, although I'm on a break from it for a while.

Check out Insidious if you get a chance. Everyone says it's one of the scariest movies ever.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:41:24 PM
Talking exclusivity is pointless... no one makes better exclusive games than Nintendo.

On the Xbox you get Halo.

On the PS3 you get Metal Gear Solid? (Is that even an exclusive?) Banjoo Kazooie? I dunno what's exclusive on the PS3 honestly.

Let's be clear though, none of them will compare to whatever Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Super Smash Brothers type of shit on the Nintendo machine.

mario, zelda etc are played out and aren't entertaining anymore, seriously how many times can people rescue the princess from bowser before it gets old?  i played donkey kong country returns and i swear i thought i played that game in 95 on super nintendo

ps3 has uncharted, heavy rain, god of war, infamous, last guardian, killzone, resistance, little big planet, twisted metal, mlb the show,

this is sony's biggest problem, marketing

how can the general public be aware of these great games when they aren't even marketed?  microsoft gets the shitty kinect on oprah for chirst sakes

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
Haha alright then. I'm a hardcore gamer myself, although I'm on a break from it for a while.

Check out Insidious if you get a chance. Everyone says it's one of the scariest movies ever.

maybe i'll download it tonight and check it out soon

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 06:46:24 PM
mario, zelda etc are played out and aren't entertaining anymore, seriously how many times can people rescue the princess from bowser before it gets old?  i played donkey kong country returns and i swear i thought i played that game in 95 on super nintendo

ps3 has uncharted, heavy rain, god of war, infamous, last guardian, killzone, resistance, little big planet, twisted metal, mlb the show,

this is sony's biggest problem, marketing

how can the general public be aware of these great games when they aren't even marketed?  microsoft gets the shitty kinect on oprah for chirst sakes

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Sorry man... Not a single one of those is better than Zelda, Mario, Star Fox, or the like... Super Smash Brothers crushes almost all other fighting games... You may think that they are "boring" or what have you... but sales don't lie... Those games are gold and lots of fun. I have bought every one of them.

Unless you're one of these people who just think "nintendo is for kids", which means I can't have a logical discourse because you've got your mind all made up.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 06:46:51 PM
you speak too soon, the console war is far from over because it will be awhile before the next one is released

sony will not dominate but they will win

what are your favorite 360 games anyways?  exclusive games

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I still don't get how you draw that conclusion.  They're way behind in NA, and are losing every month.  The numbers just don't add up.

And, from what I've heard, the next Xbox will be around sooner than we think.

I hope your're just asking me about exclusives for the sake of conversation, and not trying to get into any discussion about which console has better exclusives, because you know how I feel about subjectivity.

Favorite 360 exclusives:  Gear of War 2, Halo 3
Favorite PS3 exclusives:  God of War series, MGS4
Cross platform:  Cod MW2, Black Ops (multiplayer only), Lego games with my son
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 06:49:56 PM
mario, zelda etc are played out and aren't entertaining anymore, seriously how many times can people rescue the princess from bowser before it gets old?  i played donkey kong country returns and i swear i thought i played that game in 95 on super nintendo

ps3 has uncharted, heavy rain, god of war, infamous, last guardian, killzone, resistance, little big planet, twisted metal, mlb the show,

this is sony's biggest problem, marketing

how can the general public be aware of these great games when they aren't even marketed?  microsoft gets the shitty kinect on oprah for chirst sakes

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Not marketed?  The current PS3 TV campaign is awesome.  PS3 and 360 gamers don't buy games because of ad campaigns - most are pretty educated from the net on the selections they make. The reason those games you listed don't sell well is because they're not perceived to be as good as you think they are.  You an tu are arguing a subjective medium.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:51:09 PM
Sorry man... Not a single one of those is better than Zelda, Mario, Star Fox, or the like... Super Smash Brothers crushes almost all other fighting games... You may think that they are "boring" or what have you... but sales don't lie... Those games are gold and lots of fun. I have bought every one of them.

Unless you're one of these people who just think "nintendo is for kids", which means I can't have a logical discourse because you've got your mind all made up.

you don't even know what they are, yet they are worse ::)

sales don't lie? you sound like grape ape, i guess mcdonalds is the best restaurant in the world haha

those games aren't for kids, they are just repetitive at this point

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 06:53:48 PM
you don't even know what they are, yet they are worse ::)

sales don't lie? you sound like grape ape, i guess mcdonalds is the best restaurant in the world haha

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How else do you measure a subjective medium?  By your opinion?  That's what you seem to be doing.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
I still don't get how you draw that conclusion.  They're way behind in NA, and are losing every month.  The numbers just don't add up.

And, from what I've heard, the next Xbox will be around sooner than we think.

I hope your're just asking me about exclusives for the sake of conversation, and not trying to get into any discussion about which console has better exclusives, because you know how I feel about subjectivity.

Favorite 360 exclusives:  Gear of War 2, Halo 3
Favorite PS3 exclusives:  God of War series, MGS4
Cross platform:  Cod MW2, Black Ops (multiplayer only), Lego games with my son

there is more to the world than NA, is oprah on throughout the world to promote the 360?

have you played all the ps3 exclusives?
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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 06:54:47 PM
you don't even know what they are, yet they are worse ::)

sales don't lie? you sound like grape ape, i guess mcdonalds is the best restaurant in the world haha

those games aren't for kids, they are just repetitive at this point

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I know what they are... I don't know about "Exclusivity"... Nor do I care.

I have played them all, and if there was one I couldn't play, I'd walk over to the company library and check it out and play it... Sales don't lie when it comes to what people purchase in the gaming industry actually... It's not like McDonald's.

See... I can tell you are merely a fan, and that's cool... I appreciate the fans, but you have to understand that because it's an expensive medium... 60 bucks a game. People don't purchase quantity... they purchase quality... Hardcore gamers look a metacritic ratings and things of the like to determine purchases and they do not go with something because it's cheap.

Your comparison to McDonald's is very flawed in that McDonalds sales is about cost... Game sales equates to quality... They are different criteria.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 06:55:48 PM
How else do you measure a subjective medium?  By your opinion?  That's what you seem to be doing.

so is mcdonald the best restaurant in the world?  they outsell everybody else

you need the majority to tell you what is better? even though the ps3 isn't far behind when it came out a year later and was more expensive?

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 07:00:59 PM
so is mcdonald the best restaurant in the world?  they outsell everybody else

you need the majority to tell you what is better? even though the ps3 isn't far behind when it came out a year later and was more expensive?

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Isn't that far behind?  Read the data.  To paraphrase for you because it's not sinking in:  The PS3 got destroyed in North America, the most important gaming market.  They are slightly ahead in Europe.  The win Japan by default, and is the only reason they are not left completely in the dust, because they get spotted 5 million units there.

And, according to the INDUSTRY STANDARD MARKETING REASEARCH COMPANY, NPD, the 360 has been dominating for the last CURRENT NINE MONTHS.  That has nothing to do with a launch head start five years into a console's life cycle.

I thought you were just baiting, but you really just don't understand this stuff, even when it's laid out for you at the most simple levels.  You just don't understand trend, gaming markets, console life cycles, or simple math.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 07:09:16 PM
I know what they are... I don't know about "Exclusivity"... Nor do I care.

I have played them all, and if there was one I couldn't play, I'd walk over to the company library and check it out and play it... Sales don't lie when it comes to what people purchase in the gaming industry actually... It's not like McDonald's.

See... I can tell you are merely a fan, and that's cool... I appreciate the fans, but you have to understand that because it's an expensive medium... 60 bucks a game. People don't purchase quantity... they purchase quality... Hardcore gamers look a metacritic ratings and things of the like to determine purchases and they do not go with something because it's cheap.

Your comparison to McDonald's is very flawed in that McDonalds sales is about cost... Game sales equates to quality... They are different criteria.

well exclusivity should be the main reason people choose a console over another, why buy one console if you feel it's exclusives are far worse than the other?  if i want action adventure titles why choose 360 when their big exclusives are shooters when there are plenty of muliti platform shooters?

you bring up metacritic, black ops is the best selling game ever and there are plenty of games with a higher rating, people buy whatever is marketed the best and what they enjoyed in the past even though it is basically the same game each year like madden and MARIO

black ops had kobe bryant and jimmy kimmel in it's commercial, killzone had some guy named kevin butler

microsoft first aired the gears 2 trailer during sunday night football

sony doesn't pony up to market their games, heavy rain was unlike any game i've ever seen and i've never seen a commercial for it

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 07:13:20 PM
Not marketed?  The current PS3 TV campaign is awesome.  PS3 and 360 gamers don't buy games because of ad campaigns - most are pretty educated from the net on the selections they make. The reason those games you listed don't sell well is because they're not perceived to be as good as you think they are.  You an tu are arguing a subjective medium.

if they aren't as good as i think they are, than why do they score in the high 8's to mid 9's on metacritic?

how many killzone or resistance commercials have you seen?  how many halo or call of duty commercials have you seen?  a lot more

both of those ps3 exclusives are rated just as high, they just aren't marketed anywhere near as well

i honestly don't know of this ps3 tv campaign, and i watch a lot of tv ;)

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 07:13:35 PM
well exclusivity should be the main reason people choose a console over another, why buy one console if you feel it's exclusives are far worse than the other?  if i want action adventure titles why choose 360 when their big exclusives are shooters when there are plenty of muliti platform shooters?

you bring up metacritic, black ops is the best selling game ever and there are plenty of games with a higher rating, people buy whatever is marketed the best and what they enjoyed in the past even though it is basically the same game each year like madden and MARIO

black ops had kobe bryant and jimmy kimmel in it's commercial, killzone had some guy named kevin butler

microsoft first aired the gears 2 trailer during sunday night football

sony doesn't pony up to market their games, heavy rain was unlike any game i've ever seen and i've never seen a commercial for it

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COD is the best selling video game in the US of all time... like 14 Million.

Super Mario Brothers is the best selling console video game of all time with 40+ million copies.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 07:17:42 PM
COD is the best selling video game in the US of all time... like 14 Million.

Super Mario Brothers is the best selling console video game of all time with 40+ million copies.

yes they built a brand and people will continue to buy even if no changes or improvements are made

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
Isn't that far behind?  Read the data.  To paraphrase for you because it's not sinking in:  The PS3 got destroyed in North America, the most important gaming market.  They are slightly ahead in Europe.  The win Japan by default, and is the only reason they are not left completely in the dust, because they get spotted 5 million units there.

And, according to the INDUSTRY STANDARD MARKETING REASEARCH COMPANY, NPD, the 360 has been dominating for the last CURRENT NINE MONTHS.  That has nothing to do with a launch head start five years into a console's life cycle.

I thought you were just baiting, but you really just don't understand this stuff, even when it's laid out for you at the most simple levels.  You just don't understand trend, gaming markets, console life cycles, or simple math.

all due to a cheaper price, a year head start, and superior marketing

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 07:20:39 PM
yes they built a brand and people will continue to buy even if no changes or improvements are made

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Every game is an improvement over the last one dude.

At one time Medal of Honor was the de-facto Military FPS, it's not anymore.... Why?

Because they didn't change with the times and they thought they had "the brand", but then COD came by and did make improvements and stole the show... Now Medal of Honor tries to catch up... and they are, but it does take time.

So for every one of your points, I can shoot it down with actual fact when it comes to games... People don't buy Mario because it's Mario... they buy it because either gameplay, graphics, story... something in it is different / better than the ones previous.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 07:30:17 PM
Every game is an improvement over the last one dude.

At one time Medal of Honor was the de-facto Military FPS, it's not anymore.... Why?

Because they didn't change with the times and they thought they had "the brand", but then COD came by and did make improvements and stole the show... Now Medal of Honor tries to catch up... and they are, but it does take time.

So for every one of your points, I can shoot it down with actual fact when it comes to games... People don't buy Mario because it's Mario... they buy it because either gameplay, graphics, story... something in it is different / better than the ones previous.

well i mentioned donkey kong country returns, it was an improvement over the 90's version (which i loved) but it wasn't a big step up at all, infact i thought it was less fun

how was mario galaxy that much different than mario 64?  better graphics?  sure but you are still collecting stars and rescuing the princess from bowser, the story and gameplay never changes

nintendo was innovative with motion control, but they haevn't created any new great games in over 15 years, they just recycle the same games with better graphics, graphics are supposed to improve with tim and the graphics that aren't even HD,

all the ps3 exclusives (except for metal gear and god of war) were created with this console generation, sony constantly creates new stories and characters and that is what impresses me

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 07:33:17 PM
also the recent medal of honor was absolute garbage and was panned by critics, though it still sold about 6 million due to marketing and having a well known brand name ;)

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 08:11:22 PM
if they aren't as good as i think they are, than why do they score in the high 8's to mid 9's on metacritic?

how many killzone or resistance commercials have you seen?  how many halo or call of duty commercials have you seen?  a lot more

both of those ps3 exclusives are rated just as high, they just aren't marketed anywhere near as well

i honestly don't know of this ps3 tv campaign, and i watch a lot of tv ;)

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Think about it - if marketing was the reason why wouldn't they........wait for it...........do more/better marketing?  In your mind, you've laid out the simple, obvious solution to sell MILLIONS more games.  Why don't they do it then?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
all due to a cheaper price, a year head start, and superior marketing

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So what's the excuse for the last 9 months, five years into their life cycles, when they've been the same price?  Oh yeah, marketing.  See the post above - I guess Sony doesn't know about marketing.  ::)
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 13, 2011, 08:19:51 PM
well exclusivity should be the main reason people choose a console over another, why buy one console if you feel it's exclusives are far worse than the other?  if i want action adventure titles why choose 360 when their big exclusives are shooters when there are plenty of muliti platform shooters?

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Only because you say so.

Games are subjective.  Just because you list titles as exclusives doesn't mean they're any good.  LBP was a disaster.   Twisted Metal (which you failed to list as a sequel of a sequel of a sequel....) is nothing, a dud.  Just because you list them doesn't mean they're good.  What about Crackdown, Dead Rising, and Fable on the 360?   See how easy it is?

Do you know that most cross-platform games are developed for the 360 and ported to the PS3?   Do you know that most cross platform reviews say the 360 versions are better?  Do you know the PS3 struggles with the Unreal Engine?  Do you even know what the Unreal Engine is (GOOGLE TIME!).    Do you know about texture RAM, the PS3 sacrificing polys to keep framerates up?  No - you don't know shit about any of this.

All you know is that your subjective opinion thinks the PS3 has better tittles, and you'll ignore everything tangible that presented because you are the quintessential PS fanboi who can't back anything up with anything concrete.  I can tell your answer to anything VG related before you even post it.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 08:59:01 PM
also the recent medal of honor was absolute garbage and was panned by critics, though it still sold about 6 million due to marketing and having a well known brand name ;)

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Actually. This shows you are making stuff up.

The single player while short was totally emersive. It wad the multiplayer which was some by dice that sucked.

The singleplayer was a solid 90 metacritic but the multiplayer was about a 40.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 09:03:43 PM
Think about it - if marketing was the reason why wouldn't they........wait for it...........do more/better marketing?  In your mind, you've laid out the simple, obvious solution to sell MILLIONS more games.  Why don't they do it then?

good question

why does one company market better than others? 

you don't think microsoft markets it's products better than sony? 

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
So what's the excuse for the last 9 months, five years into their life cycles, when they've been the same price?  Oh yeah, marketing.  See the post above - I guess Sony doesn't know about marketing.  ::)

yeah marketing,why do you think that's a lame excuse? why do these billion dollar businesses spend so much on a super bowl commercial if it doesn't help them sell more?

why are most multiplatform games like call of duty marketed as if they are a 360 exclusive? when the commercial ends it shows the xbox logo, not ps3

and they've been the same price for about a year and a half

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 09:21:32 PM
Only because you say so.

Games are subjective.  Just because you list titles as exclusives doesn't mean they're any good.  LBP was a disaster.   Twisted Metal (which you failed to list as a sequel of a sequel of a sequel....) is nothing, a dud.  Just because you list them doesn't mean they're good.  What about Crackdown, Dead Rising, and Fable on the 360?   See how easy it is?

Do you know that most cross-platform games are developed for the 360 and ported to the PS3?   Do you know that most cross platform reviews say the 360 versions are better?  Do you know the PS3 struggles with the Unreal Engine?  Do you even know what the Unreal Engine is (GOOGLE TIME!).    Do you know about texture RAM, the PS3 sacrificing polys to keep framerates up?  No - you don't know shit about any of this.

All you know is that your subjective opinion thinks the PS3 has better tittles, and you'll ignore everything tangible that presented because you are the quintessential PS fanboi who can't back anything up with anything concrete.  I can tell your answer to anything VG related before you even post it.

a game that scored a 9 on metacritic was a disaster?  sold a few million,  so why did a sequel just come out?  every game i listed scored higher most of the 360 games you listed,

if twisted metal is a dud why is it still being made all these years later?

most cross platform games are close enough and if you hink otherwise you are still stuck in 2008, you would have to look for a difference to see it, i can name several games that are better on ps3

did you know 360 couldn't run uncharted or god of war, GOOGLE TIME Hhahaha you fan boys still have to swap discs for large games

you are every bit as biased as me,if not more don't kid yourself 'sony lost this round' in 2008 ::)

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 13, 2011, 09:29:06 PM
Actually. This shows you are making stuff up.

The single player while short was totally emersive. It wad the multiplayer which was some by dice that sucked.

The singleplayer was a solid 90 metacritic but the multiplayer was about a 40.




it scored a 75 on metacritic, 6 million copies is a ton for a mediocre score like that


http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104335-EA-Dismisses-Middling-Medal-of-Honor-Metacritic-Score

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 13, 2011, 11:27:42 PM


it scored a 75 on metacritic, 6 million copies is a ton for a mediocre score like that


http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104335-EA-Dismisses-Middling-Medal-of-Honor-Metacritic-Score

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I know the score... I knew it when I mentioned it earlier... You know... cause I worked on it.

Again, the single player was easily a 90 and the multiplayer like a 40... DICE fucked the MP up big time... It's literally unplayable, but the single player is fucking FANTASTIC.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2011, 01:25:50 AM
Sorry man... Not a single one of those is better than Zelda, Mario, Star Fox, or the like... Super Smash Brothers crushes almost all other fighting games... You may think that they are "boring" or what have you... but sales don't lie... Those games are gold and lots of fun. I have bought every one of them.

Unless you're one of these people who just think "nintendo is for kids", which means I can't have a logical discourse because you've got your mind all made up.
you are soooo right, zelda twillight princess is one of the best games i ever played and i was 28 when i played it, same goes with mario galaxy. yes they may look a little childish and the graphics are old but the story in zelda and pure joy in mario is better than 99 procent of the games i played on the xbox and ps3. people over 20 who never played those games will never understand it before the try the games
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2011, 01:34:00 AM
Only because you say so.

Games are subjective.  Just because you list titles as exclusives doesn't mean they're any good.  LBP was a disaster.   Twisted Metal (which you failed to list as a sequel of a sequel of a sequel....) is nothing, a dud.  Just because you list them doesn't mean they're good.  What about Crackdown, Dead Rising, and Fable on the 360?   See how easy it is?

Do you know that most cross-platform games are developed for the 360 and ported to the PS3?   Do you know that most cross platform reviews say the 360 versions are better?  Do you know the PS3 struggles with the Unreal Engine?  Do you even know what the Unreal Engine is (GOOGLE TIME!).    Do you know about texture RAM, the PS3 sacrificing polys to keep framerates up?  No - you don't know shit about any of this.

All you know is that your subjective opinion thinks the PS3 has better tittles, and you'll ignore everything tangible that presented because you are the quintessential PS fanboi who can't back anything up with anything concrete.  I can tell your answer to anything VG related before you even post it.
correct me if im wrong but isnt it harder and more complicated to do games to the ps3 than it is to xbox 360?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 14, 2011, 02:22:31 AM
correct me if im wrong but isnt it harder and more complicated to do games to the ps3 than it is to xbox 360?

It was in the beginning. The toolset for the PS3 was very lacking. They've come a long way since then though.

Most games are released at the same time these says because its my h easier than it used to be.

Most games are actually built on an engine which is run on a PC and then simply coded for the correct platform.

It's all about the engine.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 14, 2011, 02:58:40 AM
It was in the beginning. The toolset for the PS3 was very lacking. They've come a long way since then though.

Most games are released at the same time these says because its my h easier than it used to be.

Most games are actually built on an engine which is run on a PC and then simply coded for the correct platform.

It's all about the engine.
aah ok
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 07:38:55 AM
yeah marketing,why do you think that's a lame excuse? why do these billion dollar businesses spend so much on a super bowl commercial if it doesn't help them sell more?

why are most multiplatform games like call of duty marketed as if they are a 360 exclusive? when the commercial ends it shows the xbox logo, not ps3

and they've been the same price for about a year and a half

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How many commercials and ads have you seen for Just Dance?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 07:41:37 AM


most cross platform games are close enough and if you hink otherwise you are still stuck in 2008, you would have to look for a difference to see it, i can name several games that are better on ps3
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Go ahead.  Use the major releases.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 11:24:42 AM
you are soooo right, zelda twillight princess is one of the best games i ever played and i was 28 when i played it, same goes with mario galaxy. yes they may look a little childish and the graphics are old but the story in zelda and pure joy in mario is better than 99 procent of the games i played on the xbox and ps3. people over 20 who never played those games will never understand it before the try the games

twilight princess was basically ocarina of time

this is what i mean, how many times can people play the same game before it gets old?  not saying the game is childish but it should be people under 20 enjoying it because they didn't play it when it was new

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 11:26:41 AM
How many commercials and ads have you seen for Just Dance?

nowhere near as many as halo, gears of war, and many multiplatform games like call of duty that seem to be marketed as if they are exclusive to 360

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 11:30:47 AM
Go ahead.  Use the major releases.

homefront, batman arkham asylum, final fantasy 13, castlevania, marvel vs capcom are some recent ones

most multiplatform games are equal or close enough, the only ones that look or perfrom much better are mostly games from before 2009

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 11:39:44 AM
this is what i mean, how many times can people play the same game before it gets old? 
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I know, right?  Like Twisted Metal.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 11:40:34 AM
nowhere near as many as halo, gears of war, and many multiplatform games like call of duty that seem to be marketed as if they are exclusive to 360

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Thanks for proving my point.  The game was wildly successful yet with almost no marketing.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
I know, right?  Like Twisted Metal.

there hasn't been a new one in 10 years ::)

there will be changes made, like online multiplayer

unlike mario which is the same game every time

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 11:56:54 AM
Thanks for proving my point.  The game was wildly successful yet with almost no marketing.

it was marketed more than ps3 exclusives, and it's a gimmick game just like the wii is a gimmick, people that don't play games (women, old people) go to the store and see a dance game and they buy it

are you denying that halo and gears weren't marketed extremely well?

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 12:13:47 PM
it was marketed more than ps3 exclusives, and it's a gimmick game just like the wii is a gimmick, people that don't play games (women, old people) go to the store and see a dance game and they buy it

are you denying that halo and gears weren't marketed extremely well?

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How  do you know Just Dance was marketed better than any PS3 exclusive?   You will make anything up to try to win an argument.   I guess you missed the hundreds of Uncharted 2 commercials?  The whole "it only does everything" campaign.  Just stop.

 It's nice how you keep changing the argument anyway - first you touted that the PS3 outsold the 360.  Proven wrong.  Then you said it didn't win the holidays.  Proven wrong.  Then you said it was because of the early launch.  Proven wrong.  Now you're saying it's because of marketing.  What's next?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 12:23:14 PM
homefront, batman arkham asylum, final fantasy 13, castlevania, marvel vs capcom are some recent ones

most multiplatform games are equal or close enough, the only ones that look or perfrom much better are mostly games from before 2009

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This is from Digital Foundry, people who specialize on game comparisons:

On Arkham:
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What is more apparent is that from a cursory inspection it's clear that the 360 has a marginal advantage in image quality, owing to the usual UE3 inclusion of 2xMSAA where there is none on the PS3.

If you're interested you should read their reviews of Read Dead and Black Ops too. (I'd post, but they're blocked here.)  They're going to tell you the same thing.  PS3 suffers framerate issues due to lack of texture ram.  It's why they have to sacrifice polys in the non-Kratos pieces of God of War, etc...

Seriously - I don't get why you have to make up so much stuff in order to be happy with your PS3.  I love mine, and I understand all the numbers.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 04:50:00 PM
How  do you know Just Dance was marketed better than any PS3 exclusive?   You will make anything up to try to win an argument.   I guess you missed the hundreds of Uncharted 2 commercials?  The whole "it only does everything" campaign.  Just stop.

 It's nice how you keep changing the argument anyway - first you touted that the PS3 outsold the 360.  Proven wrong.  Then you said it didn't win the holidays.  Proven wrong.  Then you said it was because of the early launch.  Proven wrong.  Now you're saying it's because of marketing.  What's next?

because i never saw a commercial for uncharted, which the majority seem to think is ps3's best title

i didn't know uncharted existed until i decided to buy a new console in january 2010

i never once saw uncharted 2 in their "it only does everything" campaign, infact i don't think they started that until several months after it was released

my links said ps3 outsold 369 worldwide

you said nothing to prove the early launch and chaepar price didn't make a difference, it's beyond stupid to think otherwise ::)

until i did my research last year i was convinced the 360 was better, i evolved while you are still stuck in 08

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
This is from Digital Foundry, people who specialize on game comparisons:

On Arkham:
If you're interested you should read their reviews of Read Dead and Black Ops too. (I'd post, but they're blocked here.)  They're going to tell you the same thing.  PS3 suffers framerate issues due to lack of texture ram.  It's why they have to sacrifice polys in the non-Kratos pieces of God of War, etc...

Seriously - I don't get why you have to make up so much stuff in order to be happy with your PS3.  I love mine, and I understand all the numbers.

according to lens of truth.com there is a small difference, and if you think otherwise pat yourself on the back for having a SLIGHTLY better version while the 360 still lacks great games like uncharted and god of war

anybvody that sees a big difference here is crazy



i'm not making up shit, you just can't stand the fact that your comments in 08 "sony lost this round" is being proven wrong

360 was better then, ps3 is better now

Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 05:32:57 PM
because i never saw a commercial for uncharted, which the majority seem to think is ps3's best title

Which leads you to make the definitive statement that Just Dance was marketed better.  That's pretty much you in a nutshell.

my links said ps3 outsold 369 worldwide

No, they did not.  You continue to ignore reality.  They didn't use sales figures, here's your article again, bolded parts to aid your reading comprehension:

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Which would appear to mean that these figures aren't based on raw sales data, they're based on some sort of algorithmic alchemy that seeks to determine how many of the consoles are being played with, and how many are gathering dust inside cupboards, or propping open annoying fire doors. That's surely the market statistical equivalent of trying to track down and quantify the Higgs boson particle, and I'm willing to bet Strategy Analytics do not have a Large Hadron Collider in their cellar. Though, of course, their maths could well be much more scrupulous than the phrase 'assumptions about device retirement' suggests.

I, and tu_holmes showed you data the industry uses that proves you completely wrong.

you said nothing to prove the early launch and chaepar price didn't make a difference, it's beyond stupid to think otherwise ::)

I've showed you actual numbers that show that the 360 is STILL outselling it.  The launch gave them the initial lead, but having zero presence in the Japanese market mitigated that.


until i did my research

Your research has been continually wrong, and data I've posted proves it.  You just really don't understand.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 05:34:57 PM

i'm not making up shit, you just can't stand the fact that your comments in 08 "sony lost this round" is being proven wrong


Only if you ignore the actual data.  Which you do.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 14, 2011, 05:47:24 PM
I can't believe a videogame thread has broken into the "my console is better than yours" subject.

Whatever happened to just playing the games?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 05:50:14 PM
I can't believe a videogame thread has broken into the "my console is better than yours" subject.

Whatever happened to just playing the games?


It's actually even worse than that, since "better" is a matter of preference.  My argument is that 2+2=4, and he's telling me it's 5.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 14, 2011, 05:55:09 PM
You know it makes me laugh a lot... because the funny part about the Xbox is that it's really good tech. The main CPU is a powermac G5 running at like 3.XX Ghz.

When we got our very first development kits from Microsoft, they were dual CPU powermac G5 machines running their proprietary tool set.

Does that mean that apple and Motorola make the best game console? ;D
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 06:11:54 PM
That's hilarious.

You'd know better than me, but I think both units are more similar than different, at their core.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 14, 2011, 06:20:11 PM
That's hilarious.

You'd know better than me, but I think both units are more similar than different, at their core.

The cell processor is great architecture, but realistically... has some flaws... from a simple MFLOPS standpoint, it is better, but that does not always relate to game visuals or enjoyment.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 07:52:07 PM
I can't believe a videogame thread has broken into the "my console is better than yours" subject.

Whatever happened to just playing the games?


because "grape ape" has to post in every video game thread how he thinks the 360 is better, always taking subtle shots at the ps3

he's a microsoft fan boy that tried hard to get me to buy a 360, luckily i was smarter than that and did my own research ;D

grape - are you ever going to answer whether 360 markets their stuff better or not?  some wii game called "just dance" is irrlevant

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 14, 2011, 07:52:57 PM
That's hilarious.

You'd know better than me, but I think both units are more similar than different, at their core.

ps3 wins ;D

http://gear.ign.com/articles/111/1116182p1.html

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
because "grape ape" has to post in every video game thread how he thinks the 360 is better, always taking subtle shots at the ps3

he's a microsoft fan boy that tried hard to get me to buy a 360, luckily i was smarter than that and did my own research ;D

grape - are you ever going to answer whether 360 markets their stuff better or not?  some wii game called "just dance" is irrlevant

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First, re-read the thread.  We were talking about the blu-ray capabilities and whether MS missed the boat on not having a blu-ray.  I mentioned the numbers suggested they didn't,  and you then ran in with all your incorrect data.

A wii game called "Just Dance" is not irrelevant when it's been used to counter another one of your long line of incorrect posts.  You claim marketing is the only reason the big games outsold your precious PS3 exclusives, and I gave you an example of a game that beat them too without marketing.   That's called backing up a statement with something tangible, a foreign concept for you.

I'm not a fanboi, I own both systems and use them all the time.  I really like both of them.

And no, I'm not going to answer whether or not MS markets their games "better".   And the reason is I've worked in ad agencies for over 12 years and I know what constitutes "better".  You do not, and you won't listen, even if I told you the correct way to measure it.  Your idea of who is marketing better is whether you've seen the commercial or not.  Plus, I'm not going to bother digging up the media spends, ROI stuff because it would be lost on you.  Without looking, I really do not know who markets they're stuff "better".   Plus, you only started this stuff when you couldn't refute the numbers anymore, not that you'd admit it.

If you ever conceded one single point, especially when irrefutable data is right in front of your face, it might be worth continuing the discussion.  But you don't.   I've decided that one of two things is going on:  you're purposely acting stupid in order to keep me responding.   If you are, you've done a masterful job at baiting me, and getting me to continuously respond.  Props to you.  The second scenario is that you're so blinded by PS3 love, or just don't understand the most simple of concepts, that you keep saying the same thing over and over and over, regardless of the data presented.  I can tell which one it is, but neither is worth either of our time anymore.

Enjoy your PS3.  
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 14, 2011, 08:24:46 PM
because "grape ape" has to post in every video game thread how he thinks the 360 is better, always taking subtle shots at the ps3

he's a microsoft fan boy that tried hard to get me to buy a 360, luckily i was smarter than that and did my own research ;D

grape - are you ever going to answer whether 360 markets their stuff better or not?  some wii game called "just dance" is irrlevant

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You know games are marketed by the publisher. Only if Microsoft is the publisher do they market it. In all other instances its the publisher. Like EA or THQ.  

Microsoft doesn't market much.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 15, 2011, 10:13:27 AM
You know games are marketed by the publisher. Only if Microsoft is the publisher do they market it. In all other instances its the publisher. Like EA or THQ.  

Microsoft doesn't market much.

who published halo and gears of war?

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 15, 2011, 10:21:31 AM

Enjoy your PS3.  

oh i will, i made the right decision

good thing i didn't listen to you after trying hard to convince me otherwise before making my purchase :)

and you're right i don't "know" marketing, i need a commercial or ad to be aware of most things, are you saying that the average consumer is different?  what do you think of the kinect being featured on oprah?

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 15, 2011, 12:10:42 PM
who published halo and gears of war?

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Microsoft published those 2 specific games... But does that equate to the overall sales being what they are? No... certainly not.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 23, 2011, 09:33:16 PM

Finally got some Alien action.... I'm not gonna lie, I was a little terrified!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 24, 2011, 02:14:30 AM
some fucker hacked ps3 network so now they have closed it and noone can play online, im going to grab the first computer nerd i see and beat him to the ground and do that with every nerd i see until they open it again
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 24, 2011, 09:38:05 AM
some fucker hacked ps3 network so now they have closed it and noone can play online, im going to grab the first computer nerd i see and beat him to the ground and do that with every nerd i see until they open it again

Should have gotten an xbox, lol

In all seriousness that really sucks!
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Earl1972 on April 24, 2011, 04:22:17 PM
we get the service for free, we can go a few days without it

still have all of those awesome exclusive gamesm not to mention playing as the studly Kratos on Mortal Kombat ;D

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Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on April 24, 2011, 05:06:16 PM
we get the service for free, we can go a few days without it

still have all of those awesome exclusive gamesm not to mention playing as the studly Kratos on Mortal Kombat ;D

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Did they say how long they were gonna keep the service out?
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on April 24, 2011, 09:53:04 PM
Did they say how long they were gonna keep the service out?

They did not... Also note, this affects developers as well. We can't upload any updates or patches to PSN because of this.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 24, 2011, 11:06:35 PM
we get the service for free, we can go a few days without it

still have all of those awesome exclusive gamesm not to mention playing as the studly Kratos on Mortal Kombat ;D

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aah kratos, bought god of war 3 yesterday fucking awesome game, most brutal game i ever played.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on July 25, 2011, 05:07:57 PM

Today I caved and implemented the unlimited suit energy cheat, because I was getting no where in this game! Didn't touch health or ammo though :)

Its crap though! Why the fuck do you lose suit energy when you fire guns??
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: DK II on July 25, 2011, 06:07:29 PM
Today I caved and implemented the unlimited suit energy cheat, because I was getting no where in this game! Didn't touch health or ammo though :)

Its crap though! Why the fuck do you lose suit energy when you fire guns??

What?  ::) ::) ::)

You don't lose energy when you fire your guns, you lose energy when either you engage the cloak and then fire, so disengage the cloak before firing and engage it again afterwards.

You also lose energy when you have the shield turned on and get hit.

I love this game, have been playing since last week. I'm in mission "Out of the Ashes" now.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on July 25, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
What?  ::) ::) ::)

You don't lose energy when you fire your guns, you lose energy when either you engage the cloak and then fire, so disengage the cloak before firing and engage it again afterwards.

You also lose energy when you have the shield turned on and get hit.

I love this game, have been playing since last week. I'm in mission "Out of the Ashes" now.

I know I'm a pussy.... Gotta admit though, the game is a lot of fun when you can just stay cloaked and sneak around killing bitches LOL

I'm still in the beginning at the part where you gotta destroy guilds computer in the warehouse then shoot down that helicopter. (right after you steal the first tank and drive it through the tunnel)

Great game,

and good graphics but not out of this world like everyone is saying... Similar to graphics for any other good modern game.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: tu_holmes on July 25, 2011, 06:47:51 PM
I know I'm a pussy.... Gotta admit though, the game is a lot of fun when you can just stay cloaked and sneak around killing bitches LOL

I'm still in the beginning at the part where you gotta destroy guilds computer in the warehouse then shoot down that helicopter. (right after you steal the first tank and drive it through the tunnel)

Great game,

and good graphics but not out of this world like everyone is saying... Similar to graphics for any other good modern game.

You have to look at the background shit... That's what's so crazy... EVERYTHING is destructible.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: DK II on July 25, 2011, 06:50:45 PM
You have to look at the background shit... That's what's so crazy... EVERYTHING is destructible.

Sniping THROUGH concrete barriers and walls, LOL!!

I love it.

I also love the mixture in action, some levels you can snipe the shit out of it, some levels are more Rambo-like, engaging the armor and shooting everything that moves.
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: BIG ACH on July 25, 2011, 08:26:58 PM

I Love love love when you do a stealth kill on one of the marines, and you hide, then another of the marines is like holy shit and runs over to check out the body, and then BOOM you take him out too!


Aliens piss me off though, take too fucking long to kill and all squirmy all over the place...   

Shoulda just made it; you vs the Marines lol
Title: Re: crysis 2
Post by: DK II on July 26, 2011, 03:13:27 AM
I Love love love when you do a stealth kill on one of the marines, and you hide, then another of the marines is like holy shit and runs over to check out the body, and then BOOM you take him out too!


Aliens piss me off though, take too fucking long to kill and all squirmy all over the place...  

Shoulda just made it; you vs the Marines lol

Some good and quick ways to kill the aliens:

-shotgun: one blast from closer up is usually enough, note that you can toggle some light assault rifles to shotgun mode
-grab them and crush their throat, instant kill
-melee attack when they run up to you, two or three hits will kill the normal aliens
-sniper (headshot!)
-others (I don't want to ruin the fun for you, there are some other weapons in higher levels that kill the aliens very quick)

My favorite gun at the moment is the Grendel and the sniper rifle.

Another hint: the aliens' weak spot is the blubber on the back and the head.