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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Pet shop boys on March 25, 2011, 06:49:26 AM
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By far is Frank Zane!!! ...Ironically the least Ideal Mr.O according to hardcore bodybuilding fans ....
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Woooosssshhhhhhhhhh
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i wouldnt pay to watch a stage full of frank zanes........ wouldnt pay a penny to watch anyone smaller than me, and neither would anybody else.....
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A true role model
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Arnold by the media coverage and Zane by general body-type.
Sad those 2 guys are 30 years behind us.
The more bodybuilding 'develops' the more it will fall off the map.
Eventually the sport will be held in very isolated basements and venues (like cage fightingis), off the map and only for the fetish crowd.
Thus it will go back where it also started. Like a life circle. Start small, grow to your maximum and shrink and dissapear.
Nothing new.
How do you figure that?
Back when Zane and Arnold competed, there was only one pro show (The Olympia) and only the winner got paid ($1,000, and one year that dropped to $750).
Now, Mr. O gets $150,000+; the Arnold Classic winner gets almost as much. The New York Pro gets over $15,000 and a ring. That's a far cry from back in the day, when all Larry Scott got was a dorky-looking crown.
Heck, nowadays bodybuilders are professionals before they get IFBB pro cards. Didn't Brandon Curry ink his deal with BSN, BEFORE he won the USA title to turn pro? Back in the 90s, Frank Sepe worked for MET-Rx for years and NEVER turned pro. And many get signed shortly after they do turn pro. At least three class winners of the 2009 Nationals work for MuscleTech (LHW champ, Seth Feroce; HW Champ Fred Smalls, and SHW and overall champ, Cedric McMillan).
Go to a newsstand and you'll see a number of bodybuilding publications: Muscle & Fitness, FLEX, MD, MuscleMag International, IronMan, Planet Muscle, etc.
Now, there are supplement companies out the wazoo, with scores of bodybuilders endorsing their products. And, in the age of the Internet, the fans don't have to wait MONTHS to find out the results of bodybuilding contests. Nor, do they have to watch the severely-edited coverage of such long after they occured at 3:00 AM on ESPN.
Add YouTube to the mix and fans can keep up and follow bodybuilding, which has helped the endeavor quite nicely. Therefore, I don't see it going back to any basements, any time soon.
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mcway,i agree with your post 100%,never understood why everyone is always thinking the sport is regressing,no ordinary gym rats looked like arnold or zane in their day,the only thing i see in the past that we dont have now is someone with arnolds personality and charisma,but there was only one ali,in boxing,maybe there will only be one arnold in bodybuilding.
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There's only been ONE mainstream Mr. O
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the only thing i see in the past that we dont have now is someone with arnolds personality and charisma,but there was only one ali,in boxing,maybe there will only be one arnold in bodybuilding.
dumb comparison. Seriously guy?
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Please Nirvana avoid posting the picture of that revolting botox ex-con,fake hgh dealer,with eyeliner and graphed hair,called Dave Palumbo in any conversation about Zane and Arnold!
Holy shit I just puke my lunch!
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never noticed how Palumbo has Branches forearms or is it the other way round
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Palumbo is one of us. He needs our support. :-*
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Samir or King Lee....
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There's only been ONE mainstream Mr. O
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You got that right.
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No
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Exactly my point.
The reason we today have all this madness around supplements and working out is because of Arnold and the crew.
It was them who made the general crowd interested in the sport and working out.
Todays sport is riding the wave created 40 years ago (and the ever growing wave of KFC fatties).
Thats why the magazines are still selling mags with Arnold and Zane. The Branchs and Colemans are reserved for the allready converted sport likers, not for the general crowd.
If the sport is counting on todays bodybuilders (the top tier) to promote the sport, they know its not going to happen.
I hope no one thinks that Coleman and now Cutler are doing any kind of a good job promoting the sport.
These people can't even connect 6 words together and they never come close to even being remotely interesting for anybody but the allready hardcore fan that will watch anything they produce. Have you ever seen Coleman (I am loling while writing) seen talk about politics, world affairs, how to solve problems, being international ambasaddor, represent the sport at important meeting and venues and even tell a coherent joke? The mr O's since Lee Haney are all incompetent at even talking to other people without the big shadow of sport over them. Horrible.
Thats why guys like Curry (and other smaller guys you mention) and the like are more wanted because they look more like humans and resemble that what many want: small waist, big muscles, good conditioning and most important some character.
Guys like Curry give us a glimpse of the old days.
As we all know the remix is never as good as the original and it never stays. The original is always remembered.
Sad for the sport when a champion from 30 years ago is still on the covers, even more then current champions.
Look at any other thriving sport and see thats not the case, as other sports today have fresh likeable sportsmen to promote their sport.
Arnold's post-bodybuilding accomplishments have more to do with his coverage on bodybuilding magazines, than anything else. But, that's because Arnold had aspirations to be a movie star and a politician. Haney, Yates, Coleman, and Cutler (to the best of my knowledge) have no such desires. So, comparing Arnold to any of them makes no sense.
Case in point, Lou Ferrigno's claim to fame is playing a grunting green monster. He's better known than Coleman and Cutler. Is anyone asking him about foreign affairs or to be an international ambassador?
Because of the Web and YouTube, bodybuilding no longer needs to be "mainstream" in order to flourish. I'm sure the fans would rather go online and see a bodybuilding show or get results than wait six to eight months and watch edited footage at 3 a.m. (the way we did, back in the day with American Muscle on ESPN).
The general crowd may be interested in working out. But they are HARDLY interested in bodybuilding. More mainstream stars have something to do with that interest in working out, in general. It explains why women like J-Lo and Janet Jackson still look great, despite both being well over 40.
Comparing other sports to bodybuilding makes no sense, because ventures like football and basketball are SPECTATOR sports. The lion's share of fans have NEVER put on a pair of pads or have NEVER laced up sneakers and played on the hardwood. Heck, most college football fans have never attended that college of their favorite team (some have never attended college, PERIOD).
And the popularity of those sports and the athletes involved are based on WHAT THEY DO, NOT HOW THEY LOOK.
With all of that said, ESPN featured some of today's competitors on one of their shows:
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WOW!! I never knew Phil Heath could play the piano:
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is this a fukn trick question
AHNOLD!!!! OF COURSE............
"the one and only!......arnold schwarzenegger!!!!"
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YES...Arnold had the perfect "mainstream" built. Great arms, pecs, not so stupid big legs and ok delts.