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Title: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Darren Avey on March 30, 2011, 10:08:26 AM
Sounds like gun shots!!!  :o

Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: local hero on March 30, 2011, 10:09:51 AM
the most ferocious man to walk this planet............
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: _bruce_ on March 30, 2011, 10:22:35 AM
Mike    1
Falcon 0

Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 30, 2011, 10:24:35 AM
It's good thing there are endurance sports like pro boxing so little men like Tyson can hang out with the big boys and even be the superheavyweight champion.  ::)
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Darren Avey on March 30, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
Back in his day he was one of the bigger boys, a lot of the top heavys of the 80s were about 210. Made for more exciting fights as the 250 guys today well they have nt got it to throw 6 punch combos like heavys did then,
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Dr Dutch on March 30, 2011, 10:36:15 AM
Wouldn't stand a chance against this guy.....
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: local hero on March 30, 2011, 10:36:38 AM
alot of the heavier guys these days are either 6.7" or fat as fuck, tyson was 217/220 and tight...

in his hayday he was unstoppable....
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: titusisback on March 30, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
in his hayday he was unstoppable....

As long as he didn't have to face a wrestler, BJJ fighter or a thai boxer, yes.. he was quite the force.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: local hero on March 30, 2011, 10:52:25 AM
As long as he didn't have to face a wrestler, BJJ fighter or a thai boxer, yes.. he was quite the force.
::)
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: titusisback on March 30, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
::)

Oh, need some examples?  ;D

Don't worry, there's no shortage of that...

Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: maxkane69 on March 30, 2011, 11:36:31 AM
This is Tyson at 15,incredible hand speed for a heavyweight: fast  and powerful!
 



Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: slaver on March 30, 2011, 11:39:01 AM
It's good thing there are endurance sports like pro boxing so little men like Tyson can hang out with the big boys and even be the superheavyweight champion.  ::)

amen
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on March 30, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
Oh, need some examples?  ;D

Don't worry, there's no shortage of that...



You cant compare that dude to Tyson, Mike would of knocked that black guy out in 30 seconds

Its like comparing Tank Abbot to Anderson Silva
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Parker on March 30, 2011, 11:43:57 AM
Oh, need some examples?  ;D

Don't worry, there's no shortage of that...


It sure took him awhile to take him to the ground...why did he start off trying to box him? That was dumb...and it ended like we knew it would...
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: GraniteCityDon on March 30, 2011, 01:26:05 PM
Oh, need some examples?  ;D

Don't worry, there's no shortage of that...



Steve Jennum was not a good fighter, i honestly believe that Tyson would have confidently handled him. Its ridiculous to think that a man of Tyson's strength and speed could not hold Jennum off and catch him before being taken down, i cant see it happening. And besides, Melton Bowen was an OK boxer with a decent enough record but was by no means a top notch boxer.


Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: johnnynoname on March 30, 2011, 01:29:39 PM
jennum= very lucky

fought a shitty fight against a shitty fighter (harold howard) then gets a tomato can in his first round match at ufc IV and didn't continue in the tournament

I don't remember if he ever fought Ruas at IVC or pulled out.  I won't google it cuz all my MMA knowledge comes from my mind- I refuse to be a google warrior like the whole lot of you
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: GraniteCityDon on March 30, 2011, 01:32:08 PM
I dont think he won another fight TBH, one of the "greats" that failed to rise to prominence - afterall he was a UFC tournament champion  ::)

The quality of that tournament was so poor that any number of LW's - MW's today would have steamrolled it.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: The_Hammer on March 30, 2011, 01:37:06 PM
Tyson is overrated.  His biggest win is Michael Spinks.

He was destroyed by Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis with ease.

Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Stark on March 30, 2011, 01:39:45 PM
This little fucker has them all beat
And if you know something something about boxing you know what he does is brutal hard
Arrogant fucker but man is he fast

Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: GraniteCityDon on March 30, 2011, 01:50:48 PM
Never had the power of a Trinidad / Hatton / Mosley but by god does the man have everything else. Also props for breaking Paul Wight's nose with a cheeky little combo, but there will always be questions about him since there are several superfights he avoided during his career for one reason or another.


BTW Tyson's biggest win may have been against Spinks but thats the best that was on offer when he was at his peak. By the time Douglas fought him he was a completely different animal, anyone that knows Tyson knows this to be true. At his absolute best i have never seen another man that could match him in a boxing match.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Parker on March 30, 2011, 01:53:37 PM
Tyson is overrated.  His biggest win is Michael Spinks.

He was destroyed by Don King with ease.


Fixed
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Stark on March 30, 2011, 01:53:42 PM
Never had the power of a Trinidad / Hatton / Mosley but by god does the man have everything else. Also props for breaking Paul Wight's nose with a cheeky little combo, but there will always be questions about him since there are several superfights he avoided during his career for one reason or another.


BTW Tyson's biggest win may have been against Spinks but thats the best that was on offer when he was at his peak. By the time Douglas fought him he was a completely different animal, anyone that knows Tyson knows this to be true. At his absolute best i have never seen another man that could match him in a boxing match.


I have never seen anybody do situps like that :D
BTW what combo was that I need to see that.

I could never box - I have been in a healty number of fights and I think I couldn;t get used to the pain of being hit, maybe its not the same.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 30, 2011, 01:54:33 PM
yes, and tyson would probably suck at basketball too.

saying an awesome boxer would suck at mma because boxing is a part of mma is saying an awesome boxer would suck at basketball because they both involve being on your feet.   ::)

he was the best in the world for a long time at what he did, period.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: maxkane69 on March 30, 2011, 01:59:23 PM
Tyson is overrated.  His biggest win is Michael Spinks.

He was destroyed by Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis with ease.



This statement about Tyson show that you are very ignorant about boxing!
At the time he fought Douglas,Holyfield and in particular Lewis, Tyson was done.
Tyson was never the same fighter after left his old trainer (Rooney) and signed with Don King.He became lazy one punch fighter,did not trow so many combos like before and did not move his head like before.Yes he still had power but was lacking all the other quality that made him so deadly back in the 80!
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: The_Hammer on March 30, 2011, 02:00:30 PM
Never had the power of a Trinidad / Hatton / Mosley but by god does the man have everything else. Also props for breaking Paul Wight's nose with a cheeky little combo, but there will always be questions about him since there are several superfights he avoided during his career for one reason or another.


BTW Tyson's biggest win may have been against Spinks but thats the best that was on offer when he was at his peak. By the time Douglas fought him he was a completely different animal, anyone that knows Tyson knows this to be true. At his absolute best i have never seen another man that could match him in a boxing match.


So 2 years after he beat Spinks he was a completely different fighter when he fought Douglas.  Sounds like a lame excuse.  Tyson was strong in a weak decade of heavyweight fighters.  He couldn't survive in the best modern era of heavyweight boxing (the 90's).
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: The_Hammer on March 30, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: maxkane69 on March 30, 2011, 02:07:43 PM
So 2 years after he beat Spinks he was a completely different fighter when he fought Douglas.  Sounds like a lame excuse.  Tyson was strong in a weak decade of heavyweight fighters.  He couldn't survive in the best modern era of heavyweight boxing (the 90's).

You could be a different fighter after 6 month if you do not train properly and you do not have no more the heart for the sport. Yes Tyson was still young after signed with Don King and switched trainer but was not so disciplined in his training and lost all his hunger!
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Shockwave on March 30, 2011, 02:16:43 PM

Wow. I know that was a highlight reel, but Im struck by the fact that when they got together, they just kept throwing blows rather than locking up like boxers do today.
Awesome.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: GraniteCityDon on March 30, 2011, 02:30:02 PM
By the time he fought Douglas he had a group of drug fueled hangers on, a corrupt team of yes men hanging off him and a slag of a woman messing with his already fragile mental state. He had taken the path of excess and theres only 1 place to go on that - down.

The best we have ever seen him was a man that would have blown Douglas out in an easy 3 rounds, a man that would have taken the repeated headbutts of a juiced Holyfield and fed him solid right hands until he was fast asleep and would have moved through Lewis' jab and taken him with bodyshots and uppercuts. Its just a shame his prime didnt last longer.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: maxkane69 on March 30, 2011, 02:35:12 PM
Wow. I know that was a highlight reel, but Im struck by the fact that when they got together, they just kept throwing blows rather than locking up like boxers do today.
Awesome.

That is because the Holyfield and Bowe had the real warrior mentality(the same mentality you will find in bouts like Gatti vs Ward ,Arguello vs Pryor,Hagler vs Hearns), a quality that many of today boxers lack.
That mentality is what made this sport great in the past!
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: maxkane69 on March 30, 2011, 02:36:37 PM
By the time he fought Douglas he had a group of drug fueled hangers on, a corrupt team of yes men hanging off him and a slag of a woman messing with his already fragile mental state. He had taken the path of excess and theres only 1 place to go on that - down.

The best we have ever seen him was a man that would have blown Douglas out in an easy 3 rounds, a man that would have taken the repeated headbutts of a juiced Holyfield and fed him solid right hands until he was fast asleep and would have moved through Lewis' jab and taken him with bodyshots and uppercuts. Its just a shame his prime didnt last longer.

You are very right Sir!
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Jack T. Cross on March 30, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
His father abandoned the family when Tyson was an infant.  His mother died when he was in his early teens: 

"I never saw my mother happy with me and proud of me for doing something: She only knew me as being a wild kid running the streets, coming home with new clothes that she knew I didn't pay for. I never got a chance to talk to her or know about her. Professionally, it has no effect, but it's crushing emotionally and personally."
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 30, 2011, 10:00:45 PM
Saw Tyson training several times at Johnny Tocco's in Vegas in the summer of 1989. When he worked the 100+ pound heavy bag (that's a heavy heavy bag) (the bag with 6 rolls of duct tape wrapped around it) it was ridiculous. Horrifying.

People say, "Oh I'd get in the ring with him for a $1,000,000." You say that, but when it came time to actually step through the ropes, your mind would not allow you to do it. You could not get in the ring.

Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Meso_z on March 30, 2011, 10:03:02 PM
Saw Tyson training several times at Johnny Tocco's in Vegas in the summer of 1989. When he worked the 100+ pound heavy bag (that's a heavy heavy bag) (the bag with 6 rolls of duct tape wrapped around it) it was ridiculous. Horrifying.

People say, "Oh I'd get in the ring with him for a $1,000,000." You say that, but when it came time to actually step through the ropes, your mind would not allow you to do it. You could not get in the ring.


Hes not that tough if you own a gun.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: claymore on March 31, 2011, 04:10:32 AM
Tyson is overrated.  His biggest win is Michael Spinks.

He was destroyed by Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis with ease.



Ok... ::)
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: wes on March 31, 2011, 04:20:36 AM
So 2 years after he beat Spinks he was a completely different fighter when he fought Douglas.  Sounds like a lame excuse.  Tyson was strong in a weak decade of heavyweight fighters.  He couldn't survive in the best modern era of heavyweight boxing (the 70's).
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Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Darren Avey on March 31, 2011, 09:10:46 AM
 The Biggest names in fighting sports are Pacman and Mayweather! Boxing is 90% of MMA. Name me a MMA fight that didn't have boxing? Boxing as a sport can never be dead, long after MMA is over boxing will still be around! The days of Royce and Ken are over you can't win a figh without setting it up with boxing. Name a fighter in MMA that is more famous than Pacman and Mayweather. These guys make Millions. Name a MMA fighter that does that? MMA purse is pocket change to these guys!
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Darren Avey on March 31, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
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I think Tyson at his best might win 1 out of 3 against Ali, remember Frazier did and Frazier wasnt as fast,strong or powerful as Tyson, the one i think Tyson would have real problems with is Foreman.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Marty Champions on March 31, 2011, 09:23:31 AM
 tyson WAS the best

Lennix Lewis has stood the test of time and the most good enough heavyweight out there

tyson was the best and unstoppable only for a short period of time

i can beat lennix and klitchko
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: rccs on March 31, 2011, 09:31:02 AM
the most ferocious man to walk this planet............
Actually I think that Charles Manson was more dangerous...
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: rccs on March 31, 2011, 09:33:18 AM
It's good thing there are endurance sports like pro boxing so little men like Tyson can hang out with the big boys and even be the superheavyweight champion.  ::)
Tyson was 180cms and 101kgs. Hardly a little man...
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Army of One on March 31, 2011, 10:15:00 AM
Saw Tyson training several times at Johnny Tocco's in Vegas in the summer of 1989. When he worked the 100+ pound heavy bag (that's a heavy heavy bag) (the bag with 6 rolls of duct tape wrapped around it) it was ridiculous. Horrifying.

People say, "Oh I'd get in the ring with him for a $1,000,000." You say that, but when it came time to actually step through the ropes, your mind would not allow you to do it. You could not get in the ring.



Not to disagree that Tyson wasnt a monster on the bag, but 100 pounds isnt a heavy heavy bag, maybe for mma, but for boxing its standard, 150+ pounds is a heavy heavy bag.
Title: Re: Tyson on the bag WOW!!!
Post by: Darren Avey on March 31, 2011, 10:19:29 AM
I agree there, ive seen a 250lb heavy bag at SF boxing gym in Miami