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Ben Smith
Politico
April 7, 2011
A prominent libertarian constitutional lawyer and civil libertarian has drafted an article of impeachment against President Obama over his attack on Libya, throwing down a legal gauntlet that could be picked up by some Congressional Republicans
Bruce Fein, a former Reagan administration official in the Department of Justice and chairman of American Freedom Agenda writes in his 15-page argument of Obama’s course that “Barack Hussein Obama has mocked the rule of law, endangered the very existence of the Republic and the liberties of the people, and perpetrated an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor.”
Fein is a small-government conservative who worked on the impeachment of President Bill Clinton and also called for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, and his work doesn’t represent the Republican Party line. But it comes as some Republicans on the Hill, led by Senator Rand Paul, object vociferously to Obama’s decision to strike targets in Libya without Congressional authorization.
Hopefully Rand Paul and Mike Lee will pick this one up and run with it.
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will any repubs in congress grab this? Will boehnner back them? what about the repubs in the senate who voted to give the UN the NFZ 100-0 with no objections?
lol i was hoping this would be about his birth cert :)
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This is dumb. ::)
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Hate to bust your bubble but even your title basically says, this isn't worth crap.
Yea, the only thing he can do with this is hope to inspire some in congress. A lawyer can't draft articles of impeachement.
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Yeah, well it should be. Obama should be impeached for this, just like G W Bush should've been impeached for lying bout WMD's in Iraq.
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Sign me up - I'll work pro bono on this. He not only deserves impeachment, but a jail cell and the stockade.
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Ben Smith
Politico
April 7, 2011
A prominent libertarian constitutional lawyer and civil libertarian has drafted an article of impeachment against President Obama over his attack on Libya, throwing down a legal gauntlet that could be picked up by some Congressional Republicans
Bruce Fein, a former Reagan administration official in the Department of Justice and chairman of American Freedom Agenda writes in his 15-page argument of Obama’s course that “Barack Hussein Obama has mocked the rule of law, endangered the very existence of the Republic and the liberties of the people, and perpetrated an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor.”
Fein is a small-government conservative who worked on the impeachment of President Bill Clinton and also called for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, and his work doesn’t represent the Republican Party line. But it comes as some Republicans on the Hill, led by Senator Rand Paul, object vociferously to Obama’s decision to strike targets in Libya without Congressional authorization.
Hopefully Rand Paul and Mike Lee will pick this one up and run with it.
why would Rand Paul have a problem with what Obama is doing in Libya
afterall - he voted in favor of a no fly zone
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There was no official vote. Regardless of the procedural unanimous bullshit they pulled, Obama still has to have congress officially declare war in order to bomb another country.
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There was no official vote. Regardless of the procedural unanimous bullshit they pulled, Obama still has to have congress officially declare war in order to bomb another country.
Well that is the point, I wasn't aware a no fly zone entailed bombing ground targets. Thus the name NO FLY ZONE
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There was no official vote. Regardless of the procedural unanimous bullshit they pulled, Obama still has to have congress officially declare war in order to bomb another country.
I didnt know a no fly zone involved shooting tanks, bombing compounds, sending CIA on the ground, etc. But what do I know? Supreme General Obama knows all so how dare we question his military acumin.
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You have to look at the situation in the hypothetical.
Would we like it if Russia all of a sudden decided to enforce a no-fly zone over Alaska because they suspected Sarah Palin was going to lead a rebellion against the current Governor of Alaska?
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Yeah, well it should be. Obama should be impeached for this, just like G W Bush should've been impeached for lying bout WMD's in Iraq.
can't disagree with any of that.
Actually he is legally in the clear for the war bullshit but I still think his ass should be yanked lol...
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Sign me up - I'll work pro bono on this. He not only deserves impeachment, but a jail cell and the stockade.
you going after Bush too? Or will Obama be in the total clear when he leaves office too?
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you going after Bush too? Or will Obama be in the total clear when he leaves office too?
If it were up to me - I would lock both of them up.
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You have to look at the situation in the hypothetical.
Would we like it if Russia all of a sudden decided to enforce a no-fly zone over Alaska because they suspected Sarah Palin was going to lead a rebellion against the current Governor of Alaska?
you're not likely to win any buddies here with that analogy lol :D
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If it were up to me - I would lock both of them up.
me too, make them cell mates ;D
hell fuck it, put a camera in their cell, cancel Jersey Shore and make a reality show out of watching Bush and Obama.... wait... nevermind, that was a very bad idea :-X
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you're not likely to win any buddies here with that analogy lol :D
Celente made a great point about russia invading SA and how we would react under the same circumstances
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you're not likely to win any buddies here with that analogy lol :D
You have to admit though, its the same type of situation. We are the only country that just bombs other countries without first being attacked. I mean, Iran is has a more peacful track record than we do lately
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You have to admit though, its the same type of situation. We are the only country that just bombs other countries without first being attacked. I mean, Iran is has a more peacful track record than we do lately
Not really, Iran just funds numerous terrorist organizations to do its bidding
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You have to admit though, its the same type of situation. We are the only country that just bombs other countries without first being attacked. I mean, Iran is has a more peacful track record than we do lately
Are you libertarian?
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I guess I fit into that catergory. I just want the government to follow the Constitution, thats all. It is the law the land after all. Everyone swears an oath to support and defend it but it doesn't mean shit to politicians.
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You have to admit though, its the same type of situation. We are the only country that just bombs other countries without first being attacked. I mean, Iran is has a more peacful track record than we do lately
Except for Iraq, North Korea, Russia, and Al Qaeda (no, they're not a country).
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I guess I fit into that catergory. I just want the government to follow the Constitution, thats all. It is the law the land after all. Everyone swears an oath to support and defend it but it doesn't mean shit to politicians.
welcome to the political board brother.
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Well that is the point, I wasn't aware a no fly zone entailed bombing ground targets. Thus the name NO FLY ZONE
Who told you this was a NFZ? That's the old interpretation. This is actually a Kinetic Military Action. ;D
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Who told you this was a NFZ? That's the old interpretation. This is actually a Kinetic Military Action. ;D
I never knew tanks could take down planes.
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Who told you this was a NFZ? That's the old interpretation. This is actually a Kinetic Military Action. ;D
If this happens does this mean its a real honest to goodness war? Andre is going to be very upset