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Linkhttp://liveppv.blogspot.com/
I think Morales is going to get hurt he's past his prime and Maidana is a beast (29 wins -27 Ko's).
If you don't know who Morales is ,he was the last man to beat Pacquiao , future HOF one of the best ever.
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Thanks for the link che we'll see Morales is a tough mofo still.
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Thanks for the link che we'll see Morales is a tough mofo still.
NP, he's a tough mofo for sure.
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maidana is tough as nails.
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maidana is tough as nails.
Indeed ,always coming forward and hits like a mule.
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Midget fights are funny! ;D
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Midget fights are funny! ;D
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Kirkland got his ass beat ,fucking idiot.
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Kirkland got his ass beat ,fucking idiot.
The dude from Metallica ???
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The dude from Metallica ???
His brother.
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Kirkland got his ass beat ,fucking idiot.
He should be ashamed of himself. For real.
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Kirkland got his ass beat ,fucking idiot.
No chin.
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What happened to Ricky Hatton looks fat as hell on the announcers desk I heard he was a alcoholic maybe too many beers?
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No chin.
Nah, more like no training.
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What happened to Ricky Hatton looks fat as hell on the announcers desk I heard he was a alcoholic maybe too many beers?
Yes, he's a drinker. was always known to blow up in between fights when he fought.
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What happened to Ricky Hatton looks fat as hell on the announcers desk I heard he was a alcoholic maybe too many beers?
Ricky Fatton
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Ricky_Hatton_as_Ricky_Fatton.jpg)
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Ricky Fatton
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Ricky_Hatton_as_Ricky_Fatton.jpg)
That's not Lee Priest
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Is Katsidis retarded ? a brawler trying to box a boxer ::)
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That's not Lee Priest
LOL. :D
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Streaming the fight now
Are you able see the ring whore holding the signs between rounds pretty hot, how can I zoom in on her?
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Morales will probably look terrible. Maidana is very tough and prime and I think it's way too much of a task for Morales at his age.
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Maidana gassing :o
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Holy shit! Erik started out as I said, looking slow, old and terrible. BUT, he seems to have calmed the storm and is now giving Maidana a war!
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Great round
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erik is pulling some veteran sh*t in there man. wow.
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Just goes to show how good prime Morales was -- better than Pac. The last man to beat Pac and that was coming off his prime.
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Just goes to show how good prime Morales was -- better than Pac. The last man to beat Pac and that was coming off his prime.
He's a fucking legend ,fighting with one eye against a much younger and stronger fighter in his prime , much respect.
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Morales got ripped off. Damn fine fight though.
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I had Maidana by 2pts .
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He's a fucking legend ,fighting with one eye against a much younger and stronger fighter in his prime , much respect.
Prime Morales would have had him out within 6 rounds. I hate Maidana.
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Prime Morales would have had him out within 6 rounds. I hate Maidana.
I agree.
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Just goes to show how good prime Morales was -- better than Pac. The last man to beat Pac and that was coming off his prime.
::)
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I had Maidana by 2pts .
Close, Morales is a tough SOB they should of gave it to him probably his last fight unless he does Roberto Duran just fights for money til he cant anymore.
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Kirkland got his ass beat ,fucking idiot.
Jim Lampley said in 25 years of broadcasting that was one of the most shocking results he had witnessed...a guy like the Japanese fella with such a low kayo percentage dispatching of him in the first round via 3 knockdowns.
I have to admit I though Kirkland would have finished him off in the first round.
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Jim Lampley said in 25 years of broadcasting that was one of the most shocking results he had witnessed...a guy like the Japanese fella with such a low kayo percentage dispatching of him in the first round via 3 knockdowns.
I have to admit I though Kirkland would have finished him off in the first round.
I hope he learned his lesson but I doubt it.
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You must not follow boxing. Morales is the last man to beat pac, and this was shortly after his prime, meaning not even at his best.
Pac isn't as good as a lot of people think. He's made a living of beating up washed up, old fighters. The last 2 real challengers he's faced, Morales and Marquez, he's lost against or barely squeaked out a win. Oscar, Hatton, Margarito, Cotto -- all old and/or shot. And now he's facing Mosley for fuk sakes. Mosley is shot to hell and his prime was a decade ago. ::)
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You must not follow boxing. Morales is the last man to beat pac, and this was shortly after his prime, meaning not even at his best.
Pac isn't as good as a lot of people think. He's made a living of beating up washed up, old fighters. The last 2 real challengers he's faced, Morales and Marquez, he's lost against or barely squeaked out a win. Oscar, Hatton, Margarito, Cotto -- all old and/or shot. And now he's facing Mosley for fuk sakes. Mosley is shot to hell and his prime was a decade ago. ::)
I disagree ,Pacquiao is a great fighter.
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You must not follow boxing. Morales is the last man to beat pac, and this was shortly after his prime, meaning not even at his best.
Pac isn't as good as a lot of people think. He's made a living of beating up washed up, old fighters. The last 2 real challengers he's faced, Morales and Marquez, he's lost against or barely squeaked out a win. Oscar, Hatton, Margarito, Cotto -- all old and/or shot. And now he's facing Mosley for fuk sakes. Mosley is shot to hell and his prime was a decade ago. ::)
Hatton and Cotto were washed up before they got into the ring with Pac?
Hatton had ONE loss to the P4P king Mayweather Jr. at that point and Cotto was basically undefeated as a BIG welterweight. WTF are you talking about?? Did you not see the knockout of the year he put a one loss Hatton into retirement? Btw, who says that Miguel Cotto is "washed up"? His only legit loss is to Manny Pacquiao.
The last time Pac fought a 20 something Morales he made him quit like a little bitch.
That's not to take anything away from Morales, he is a helluva fighter and I have loved watching him over the years but the point is it is EXTREMELY difficult to make a case AGAINST Manny Pacquiao not being a great all time boxer.
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Hatton and Cotto were washed up before they got into the ring with Pac?
Hatton had ONE loss to the P4P king Mayweather Jr. at that point and Cotto was basically undefeated as a BIG welterweight. WTF are you talking about?? Did you not see the knockout of the year he put a one loss Hatton into retirement? Btw, who says that Miguel Cotto is "washed up"? His only legit loss is to Manny Pacquiao.
The last time Pac fought a 20 something Morales he made him quit like a little bitch.
That's not to take anything away from Morales, he is a helluva fighter and I have loved watching him over the years but the point is it is EXTREMELY difficult to make a case AGAINST Manny Pacquiao not being a great all time boxer.
Hatton and Cotto were damaged fighters by the time Pac got a hold of them. Both had been destroyed, one by PBF and the other, cotto, by marg. While I will admit I exaggerated in saying those 2 were washed up, they were damaged goods and not prime. Pac ALWAYS has an angle. I won't even get into him weight draining his opponents to make a weight most of them haven't fought at in years.
Manny is a great fighter, but he has a terrible habit of picking on guys less than their best. I mean, wtf is he fighting Mosley for? That's just embarrassing.
The last fighter that was worth anything and in his prime was Marquez and he gave manny all he was worth with alot of people thinking Marquez won their second fight.
Present manny is a great fighter fighting less than great fighters. All of these wins the past couple of years are way overrated.
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Hatton and Cotto were washed up before they got into the ring with Pac?
Hatton had ONE loss to the P4P king Mayweather Jr. at that point and Cotto was basically undefeated as a BIG welterweight. WTF are you talking about?? Did you not see the knockout of the year he put a one loss Hatton into retirement? Btw, who says that Miguel Cotto is "washed up"? His only legit loss is to Manny Pacquiao.
The last time Pac fought a 20 something Morales he made him quit like a little bitch.
Morales was 29-30 years old. His prime was around his first fight with Barrera at 25 years old.
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Hatton and Cotto were damaged fighters by the time Pac got a hold of them. Both had been destroyed, one by PBF and the other, cotto, by marg. While I will admit I exaggerated in saying those 2 were washed up, they were damaged goods and not prime. Pac ALWAYS has an angle. I won't even get into him weight draining his opponents to make a weight most of them haven't fought at in years.
Manny is a great fighter, but he has a terrible habit of picking on guys less than their best. I mean, wtf is he fighting Mosley for? That's just embarrassing.
The last fighter that was worth anything and in his prime was Marquez and he gave manny all he was worth with alot of people thinking Marquez won their second fight.
Present manny is a great fighter fighting less than great fighters. All of these wins the past couple of years are way overrated.
Fair enough, we will just have to agree to disagree but I respect some of the points you are making here.
While the loss to PBF probably started the downside to Hatton's career and the beating that Cotto took from a cheat rat like Margarito did have a noticeable effect on their fighting abilities I would still argue all night that they were "worth something" and both are very, very legitimate victories ESPECIALLY for a former light flyweight.
And yeah, I will admit I am a little disappointed with this last pick for an opponent. Maybe he should have fought a guy like an Andre Berto or whatever, but even at this point where Manny is probably past his prime and most likely on the down side of his career I just can't get up for a fight with him vs. a Berto type because I don't think Berto would give him much of a fight. The only fight that makes sense is Pac vs. Mayweather and we could go 5 pages on that discussion.
We can get into a discussion of "primes" and all that but the fact still remains Pacquiao....
Dropped Marquez 3 times in the first round.
Made Morales quit while sitting on his ass fully aware and coherent.
Forced Oscar De la hoya to quit on his stool because there wasn't a damn thing he could do but stand in their and get his ass beat.
Sent Ricky Hatton into retirement via one of the most brutal kayos I have ever seen.
Disfigured Antonio Margaritos face in a UD where he didn't even lose a round.
Forced a 12th round TKO against a WARRIOR like Miguel Cotto.
Had Joshua Clottey so psyched out in their fight that all Clottey did was hold his gloves up in fear of being knocked the fuck out.
Who else in boxing has a resume that can claim anything near that?
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Thank you Erik Morales!
Even in defeat tonite you showed the world why you are a legend!
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Fair enough, we will just have to agree to disagree but I respect some of the points you are making here.
While the loss to PBF probably started the downside to Hatton's career and the beating that Cotto took from a cheat rat like Margarito did have a noticeable effect on their fighting abilities I would still argue all night that they were "worth something" and both are very, very legitimate victories ESPECIALLY for a former light flyweight.
And yeah, I will admit I am a little disappointed with this last pick for an opponent. Maybe he should have fought a guy like an Andre Berto or whatever, but even at this point where Manny is probably past his prime and most likely on the down side of his career I just can't get up for a fight with him vs. a Berto type because I don't think Berto would give him much of a fight. The only fight that makes sense is Pac vs. Mayweather and we could go 5 pages on that discussion.
We can get into a discussion of "primes" and all that but the fact still remains Pacquiao....
Dropped Marquez 3 times in the first round.
Made Morales quit while sitting on his ass fully aware and coherent.
Forced Oscar De la hoya to quit on his stool because there wasn't a damn thing he could do but stand in their and get his ass beat.
Sent Ricky Hatton into retirement via one of the most brutal kayos I have ever seen.
Disfigured Antonio Margaritos face in a UD where he didn't even lose a round.
Forced a 12th round TKO against a WARRIOR like Miguel Cotto.
Had Joshua Clottey so psyched out in their fight that all Clottey did was hold his gloves up in fear of being knocked the fuck out.
Who else in boxing has a resume that can claim anything near that?
Maybe,But, we don't even know if he's the best fighter even of today. He needs to beat PBF to confirm
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miadana needs a new trainer, he had no game plan what so ever, should have took freddy roach up on his offer to train him for this fight..
i thought eric edged it, even tho he's miles past his prime, he would have done a real job on him a few year ago
also.... is pauly mananagi ? .. the most pointless boxer, he should get on the juice and join the jersey shore
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miadana needs a new trainer, he had no game plan what so ever, should have took freddy roach up on his offer to train him for this fight..
i thought eric edged it, even tho he's miles past his prime, he would have done a real job on him a few year ago
also.... is pauly mananagi ? .. the most pointless boxer, he should get on the juice and join the jersey shore
LOL at Pauly Malinaggi!
Malinaggi is clown and an embarassement for entire italian-americans community!
I remember when italian-americans were respected and feared in this country by the general population,you had boxer like Jack La Motta and Rocky Marciano in the ring and criminals like Al Capone and Charles "Lucky" Luciano in the street.
Now instead american-italian have Pauly Malinaggi and Mike "The Situation" with the all cast of Jersey Shore.
And yes I said that,I consider a bigger embarassement for italian-americans community the cast of Jersey Shore than Mobster like Al Capone or Luciano!
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LOL at Pauly Malinaggi!
Malinaggi is clown and an embarassement for entire italian-american comunity!
I remember when italian-american were respected and feared in this country by the general population,you had boxer like Jack La Motta and Rocky Marciano in the ring and criminals like Al Capone and Charles "Lucky" Luciano in the street.
Now instead american-italian have Pauly Malinaggi and Mike "The Situation" with the all cast of Jersey Shore.
And yes I said that,I consider a bigger embarassement for american-italians comunity the cast of Jersey Shore than Mobster like Al Capone or Luciano!
Damn, I never really thought about it but you are spot on with that statement.
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Pac career above super lightweight is an ARUM joke.
N/A Shane Mosley - - (12) 2011-05-07 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States WBO Welterweight World Title on the line
Win Antonio Margarito UD 12 (12) 2010-11-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Won vacant WBC Super Welterweight World Title.
Win Joshua Clottey UD 12 (12) 2010-03-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Retained WBO Welterweight World Title.
Win Miguel Ángel Cotto TKO 12 (12) 2009-11-14 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won WBO Welterweight World Title and WBC Diamond Belt.
Win Ricky Hatton KO 2 (12) 2009-05-02 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won IBO and The Ring Light Welterweight World Titles.
Win Oscar De La Hoya TKO 8 (12) 2008-12-06 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States A non-title fight, fought at Welterweight.
FMW bet Oscar, Hatton and Mosley before hand.
Clottey was blood clot.
Marg 2 yrs out the game vs a smaller Sergio Martinez which Roach or Arum's bank acct wasnt having.
I give credit for cotto even though he got the shit beat out him by bricks in Marg's gloves, was still pretty young for that fight
This guy is lb4lb boxing BS!
Berto - He'd probably find away to win vs Berto but he'd come out that fight damaged goods, will have to TRADE with berto to get berto out the fight.
FMW - it doesnt make a diffence if he wins or loses. 40M+ payday.
Sergio - if he can fight Marg at 152 at 5'11" whats the deal with Sergio who is 5'9". his camp will take the fight at a catch weight. Pac doesnt get past 5 rds because Sergio brings 160 punching power down with him.
Williams - his forearms are longer than Pac's arms and Pac cant produce a 160 punch to get him out of there. Williams out works him.
Judah - Bitch arum wouldnt take this fight because Judah is fighting good and with confidence again sub-147. If he keeps his head at 142-143, pac got his hands full with a guy with excellent hand speed still.
Brandy - here is their young black fighter next if they cant get FMW. No real power to get pac's respect at 144. Will get the shit beat out of him which is all well with Arum lb4lb wallet.
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Pac career above super lightweight is an ARUM joke.
N/A Shane Mosley - - (12) 2011-05-07 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States WBO Welterweight World Title on the line
Win Antonio Margarito UD 12 (12) 2010-11-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Won vacant WBC Super Welterweight World Title.
Win Joshua Clottey UD 12 (12) 2010-03-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Retained WBO Welterweight World Title.
Win Miguel Ángel Cotto TKO 12 (12) 2009-11-14 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won WBO Welterweight World Title and WBC Diamond Belt.
Win Ricky Hatton KO 2 (12) 2009-05-02 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won IBO and The Ring Light Welterweight World Titles.
Win Oscar De La Hoya TKO 8 (12) 2008-12-06 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States A non-title fight, fought at Welterweight.
FMW bet Oscar, Hatton and Mosley before hand.
Clottey was blood clot.
Marg 2 yrs out the game vs a smaller Sergio Martinez which Roach or Arum's bank acct wasnt having.
I give credit for cotto even though he got the shit beat out him by bricks in Marg's gloves, was still pretty young for that fight
This guy is lb4lb boxing BS!
Berto - He'd probably find away to win vs Berto but he'd come out that fight damaged goods, will have to TRADE with berto to get berto out the fight.
FMW - it doesnt make a diffence if he wins or loses. 40M+ payday.
Sergio - if he can fight Marg at 152 at 5'11" whats the deal with Sergio who is 5'9". his camp will take the fight at a catch weight. Pac doesnt get past 5 rds because Sergio brings 160 punching power down with him.
Williams - his forearms are longer than Pac's arms and Pac cant produce a 160 punch to get him out of there. Williams out works him.
Judah - Bitch arum wouldnt take this fight because Judah is fighting good and with confidence again sub-147. If he keeps his head at 142-143, pac got his hands full with a guy with excellent hand speed still.
Brandy - here is their young black fighter next if they cant get FMW. No real power to get pac's respect at 144. Will get the shit beat out of him which is all well with Arum lb4lb wallet.
G-THONG there is no hope discussing about Pacquiao with you.
You are a biased hater of Pacquiao!
Now I wonder if you would have the same opinion about Pacquiao if he was black?
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Pac career above super lightweight is an ARUM joke.
N/A Shane Mosley - - (12) 2011-05-07 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States WBO Welterweight World Title on the line
Win Antonio Margarito UD 12 (12) 2010-11-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Won vacant WBC Super Welterweight World Title.
Win Joshua Clottey UD 12 (12) 2010-03-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Retained WBO Welterweight World Title.
Win Miguel Ángel Cotto TKO 12 (12) 2009-11-14 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won WBO Welterweight World Title and WBC Diamond Belt.
Win Ricky Hatton KO 2 (12) 2009-05-02 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won IBO and The Ring Light Welterweight World Titles.
Win Oscar De La Hoya TKO 8 (12) 2008-12-06 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States A non-title fight, fought at Welterweight.
FMW bet Oscar, Hatton and Mosley before hand.
Clottey was blood clot.
Marg 2 yrs out the game vs a smaller Sergio Martinez which Roach or Arum's bank acct wasnt having.
I give credit for cotto even though he got the shit beat out him by bricks in Marg's gloves, was still pretty young for that fight
This guy is lb4lb boxing BS!
Berto - He'd probably find away to win vs Berto but he'd come out that fight damaged goods, will have to TRADE with berto to get berto out the fight.
FMW - it doesnt make a diffence if he wins or loses. 40M+ payday.
Sergio - if he can fight Marg at 152 at 5'11" whats the deal with Sergio who is 5'9". his camp will take the fight at a catch weight. Pac doesnt get past 5 rds because Sergio brings 160 punching power down with him.
Williams - his forearms are longer than Pac's arms and Pac cant produce a 160 punch to get him out of there. Williams out works him.
Judah - Bitch arum wouldnt take this fight because Judah is fighting good and with confidence again sub-147. If he keeps his head at 142-143, pac got his hands full with a guy with excellent hand speed still.
Brandy - here is their young black fighter next if they cant get FMW. No real power to get pac's respect at 144. Will get the shit beat out of him which is all well with Arum lb4lb wallet.
Judah ::).
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Judah ::).
You know Judah is black!
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You know Judah is black!
Baldomir , Cotto, Clottey they all beat his ass , even Matthysse beat his ass and got robbed.
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Judah ::).
hahaha! Did he really just say "Zab Judah"??
This idiot should be banned from all boxing discussion from this moment on.
You know Judah is black!
Yes and that is the "black fighter" that everyone closet bigots like himself say that Pacquiao needs to fight to be considered legit.
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Baldomir , Cotto, Clottey they all beat his ass , even Matthysse beat his ass and got robbed.
I know that but maybe in the eyes of G-thang Judah is great because has the same color of skin like him!
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judah is one of the biggest pricks in boxing and has been well beaten in the past, shouldnt be even mentioned in the same breath as pac man
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LOL at Pauly Malinaggi!
Malinaggi is clown and an embarassement for entire italian-americans community!
I remember when italian-americans were respected and feared in this country by the general population,you had boxer like Jack La Motta and Rocky Marciano in the ring and criminals like Al Capone and Charles "Lucky" Luciano in the street.
Now instead american-italian have Pauly Malinaggi and Mike "The Situation" with the all cast of Jersey Shore.
And yes I said that,I consider a bigger embarassement for italian-americans community the cast of Jersey Shore than Mobster like Al Capone or Luciano!
Exactly he is like a fly, no punch power just running and jabbing.Marciano is rolling over in his grave.
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Judah ::).
His problems started moving up to 147. I thought you knew your boxing ::)
Right, you just keep track of flyweights since you're probaby half the size of messi.
If he's such dogshit at 142 or lighter, then why Arum says, no to him but yes to Bradley who NO BODY THE FUCK KNOWS? Arum set up the Shane fight because he is the money draw. Oh...Arum is hand picking that shit too. Shit, that's another pancake fight for Pac and a good PPV draw because of his wacko temper. Problem...he has won his last couple of fights. Roach dont want that. ::)
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G-THONG there is no hope discussing about Pacquiao with you.
You are a biased hater of Pacquiao!
Now I wonder if you would have the same opinion about Pacquiao if he was black?
Gimmick, he's a phucking fraud midget at super lightweight or higher. and use your regular acct, or Ron has it in timeout. ::)
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His problems started moving up to 147. I thought you knew your boxing ::)
Right, you just keep track of flyweights since you're probaby half the size of messi.
If he's such dogshit at 142 or lighter, then why Arum says, no to him but yes to Bradley who NO BODY THE FUCK KNOWS? Arum set up the Shane fight because he is the money draw. Oh...Arum is hand picking that shit too. Shit, that's another pancake fight for Pac and a good PPV draw because of his wacko temper. Problem...he has won his last couple of fights. Roach dont want that. ::)
Okay, I'll take the troll bait.
Why WOULD anybody want to set up a fight between Pacquiao and Zab Judah?
It makes no sense whatsoever.
At least there is the money aspect with the Mosley fight.
Zab Judah is a shot fighter who hasn't been good in about 6 years and he brings zero from his side of the table as far as a payout is concerned.
So you shit on Pacquiao for the opponents he is set up to fight and now you are saying he needs to get in the ring with ZAB JUDAH??
Where in the fuck are you coming from with all this?
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His problems started moving up to 147. I thought you knew your boxing ::)
Right, you just keep track of flyweights since you're probaby half the size of messi.
If he's such dogshit at 142 or lighter, then why Arum says, no to him but yes to Bradley who NO BODY THE FUCK KNOWS? Arum set up the Shane fight because he is the money draw. Oh...Arum is hand picking that shit too. Shit, that's another pancake fight for Pac and a good PPV draw because of his wacko temper. Problem...he has won his last couple of fights. Roach dont want that. ::)
Stick to team Brandy Lever ,G thong
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His problems started moving up to 147. I thought you knew your boxing ::)
Right, you just keep track of flyweights since you're probaby half the size of messi.
If he's such dogshit at 142 or lighter, then why Arum says, no to him but yes to Bradley who NO BODY THE FUCK KNOWS? Arum set up the Shane fight because he is the money draw. Oh...Arum is hand picking that shit too. Shit, that's another pancake fight for Pac and a good PPV draw because of his wacko temper. Problem...he has won his last couple of fights. Roach dont want that. ::)
So a fight versus Zab Judah will validate Manny Pacquiao but a dominant one sided ass whipping against an undefeated Miguel Cotto doesn't?
Put down the fucking pipe bro.
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Gimmick, he's a phucking fraud midget at super lightweight or higher. and use your regular acct, or Ron has it in timeout. ::)
This is my only account G-THONG!
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Pac career above super lightweight is an ARUM joke.
N/A Shane Mosley - - (12) 2011-05-07 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States WBO Welterweight World Title on the line
Win Antonio Margarito UD 12 (12) 2010-11-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Won vacant WBC Super Welterweight World Title.
Win Joshua Clottey UD 12 (12) 2010-03-13 Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, United States Retained WBO Welterweight World Title.
Win Miguel Ángel Cotto TKO 12 (12) 2009-11-14 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won WBO Welterweight World Title and WBC Diamond Belt.
Win Ricky Hatton KO 2 (12) 2009-05-02 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States Won IBO and The Ring Light Welterweight World Titles.
Win Oscar De La Hoya TKO 8 (12) 2008-12-06 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, United States A non-title fight, fought at Welterweight.
FMW bet Oscar, Hatton and Mosley before hand.
Clottey was blood clot.
Marg 2 yrs out the game vs a smaller Sergio Martinez which Roach or Arum's bank acct wasnt having.
I give credit for cotto even though he got the shit beat out him by bricks in Marg's gloves, was still pretty young for that fight
This guy is lb4lb boxing BS!
Berto - He'd probably find away to win vs Berto but he'd come out that fight damaged goods, will have to TRADE with berto to get berto out the fight.
FMW - it doesnt make a diffence if he wins or loses. 40M+ payday.
Sergio - if he can fight Marg at 152 at 5'11" whats the deal with Sergio who is 5'9". his camp will take the fight at a catch weight. Pac doesnt get past 5 rds because Sergio brings 160 punching power down with him.
Williams - his forearms are longer than Pac's arms and Pac cant produce a 160 punch to get him out of there. Williams out works him.
Judah - Bitch arum wouldnt take this fight because Judah is fighting good and with confidence again sub-147. If he keeps his head at 142-143, pac got his hands full with a guy with excellent hand speed still.
Brandy - here is their young black fighter next if they cant get FMW. No real power to get pac's respect at 144. Will get the shit beat out of him which is all well with Arum lb4lb wallet.
This is not directed at GThang....just saying folks.
that whole FMW vs Oscar vs Pac is where I drew the line and you have to be totally biased to not see this.....two totally different fights. Floyd fought Oscar at his weight (meaning floyd moved up to his highest ever where he had no business even attempting at 54 and NOTE: HASN"T FOUGHT SINCE) ..no catch..full strength oscar all the markers in his corner to win... and still won..then vs pac fight at a weight he hasn't fought at in over 7-8 years (older) bow down to ARUM to get paid fight.....looking absolutely lethargic vs pac. He lost....Had oscar fought manny at full like floyd did...totally different fight IMO....this was simply oscar "thinking" he'd KO the smaller guy and ended up no energy past rd 1 since he hadn't been there in years prior.
That's all I have to say about that comparison since folks like to judge off that fight. Floyd would murder pac man in all seriousness....I can't find a single boxing coach who disagrees at my gym. Would gross mega millions..but be a complete wipe out and a lot of fans that want to see floyd lose would get sent home sad if this fight went down. This is real talk. Wake the fuck up people.
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Floyd would murder pac man in all seriousness....
I totally disagree, IMHO if he wins it would be by very close decision .
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I totally disagree, IMHO if he wins it would be by very close decision .
I would love to see this fight che like I know you would since I know you are a boxing fan.
Man, I wish these guys would get this sh*t going man and stop bull shitting.
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I would love to see this fight che like I know you would since I know you are a boxing fan.
Man, I wish these guys would get this sh*t going man and stop bull shitting.
I agree,I would like to see the fight happening this year or next year , this fight in 2 or 3 years I wouldn't really care .
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I agree,I would like to see the fight happening this year or next year , this fight in 2 or 3 years I wouldn't really care .
You are right the fight should happen soon, until they both are still in their prime!
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I agree,I would like to see the fight happening this year or next year , this fight in 2 or 3 years I wouldn't really care .
I'm not going to lie. I like both. (Manny) simply b/c he dedicates himself to his punches.etc...lots of flaws but he goes for it...(Floyd)..he is the most scientific boxer I've ever seen and I've sparred with guys who mimic his style and i must say....it's fuc'n frustrating as hell so I get it.
If these two bitches don't get it on THIS YEAR (fuc next year) fuc them both. Simple and plain. And I LOVE boxing. To be honest I'd like to see sergio KO them both just b/c I like the guys style since he's so unorthodox and goes for it. Sad thing is neither will fight him and he'll prob end up fighting paul for a trilogy.
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Baldomir , Cotto, Clottey they all beat his ass , even Matthysse beat his ass and got robbed.
Yeah...judah just simply has not ever gone past B rated IMO....more hype than substance and the only reason he looked halfway decent vs floyd was years of sparring floyd.
Cotto broke judah a$$
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Baldomir , Cotto, Clottey they all beat his ass , even Matthysse beat his ass and got robbed.
it's amazing when your fighter loses it's always he got robbed. see judah's record vs fighters at 144 (matt included in that bunch) or less vs his record at 147. it's amazing how a lb here or there in boxing makes a difference. you're the boxing expert. ::)
pac is dog shit, is all arum hype for his bank acct. they'll take the lose vs fmw because that's40-50M in the bank, and pac still can get money fights. let pac get put on his ass vs martinez (he might get pac out in the 1st rd) , berto, judah or one of the TRUE 147 champs.
Bradley is next in Oct or Nov. ::)
note for the getbig chimps: pac will beat berto 147 and judah 143 late but they will test him with their hand speed. i wont list the other 147 champs. there's no money for arum since they are all pretty much euros and dont want to fight in the states.
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Mayweather is as real as Santa Claus. He doesn't fight. He is a good looking guy that has just promoted himself correctly. No hate toward $. How can anyone class him as one of the best when he doesn't fight? That Oscar fight sucked. Retired for 2 years. He outsized Marquez by 25 lbs. Then beat a 39 year old Mosley. One of the greats? This guy is gonna end up just like Holyfield and Roy Jones. He's gonna loose then he's gonna keep fighting until he's 50. Why again hasn't he fought Manny? FEAR!
Many Floyd supporter also forget that his victory against Oscar was a very close split decision that could gone in favor of Oscar!
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mayweather could win against anyone on points if he decided to shut up shop, best defensive fighter ive ever seen.. that being said him v pac man is a 50 50 fight, and the only fight that boxing fans want to see, ive got no idea how judah is even mentioned in this debate..
hatton could make a comeback and spark judah, he's a nothing fighter and has been for a long time
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mayweather could win against anyone on points if he decided to shut up shop, best defensive fighter ive ever seen.. that being said him v pac man is a 50 50 fight, and the only fight that boxing fans want to see, ive got no idea how judah is even mentioned in this debate..
hatton could make a comeback and spark judah, he's a nothing fighter and has been for a long time
judah was brought up because he was one of the guys at super light weight for pac instead of fighting fucking bradley or marquez again. arum said HELL NO because as shot as judah is, he has won his last 5-6 fights since he left welterweight in which he lost 6 fights, pretty all of his loses came after he moved up in weight. it's amazing how a couple of pounds and the right weight division helps a fighter.
dont worry pac will continue to be the lb4lb king after he cleans house with bradley instead of the other lb4lb king martinez who is smaller than marg so what's the joke about him being to big? i'm not even worrying about the mosley fight. pac wont go flat foot like fmw did, so mosley wont land a big right so we can see how pac fights slightly hurt vs a true 147 and what his defense looks like.
agreed. fmw wont fight so where did i call him lb4lb? this is about pac's bogus title.
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I agree with G_Thang about Pacquiao being protected from steppingi into the ring with Paul Williams or Sergio but if that is the only couple of strikes you can put against him and his career than that really is saying something.