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J.Crew Ad Showing Boy With Pink Nail Polish Sparks Debate on Gender Identity
By Diane Macedo
Published April 11, 2011
FoxNews.com
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Jenna Lyons holds son Beckett's pedicured foot in as text below the image reads, "Lucky for me I ended up with a boy whose favorite color is pink. Toenail painting is way more fun in neon."
A J.Crew ad that shows a top designer painting her young son’s toenails neon pink has some parents and doctors seeing red.
The image appeared in a feature called "Saturday With Jenna," which was emailed to customers last week and highlights a few of J.Crew president and creative director Jenna Lyons’ favorite products -- including the hot pink Essie nail polish seen on her son, Beckett.
The caption below the picture reads, “Lucky for me I ended up with a boy whose favorite color is pink. Toenail painting is way more fun in neon.”
But not everyone sees fun in the ad.
“This is a dramatic example of the way that our culture is being encouraged to abandon all trappings of gender identity,” psychiatrist Dr. Keith Ablow wrote in a FoxNews.com Health column about the ad.
Media Research Center’s Erin Brown agreed, calling the ad “blatant propaganda celebrating transgendered children.”
“Not only is Beckett likely to change his favorite color as early as tomorrow, Jenna's indulgence (or encouragement) could make life hard for the boy in the future,” Brown wrote in an opinion piece Friday. "J.CREW, known for its tasteful and modest clothing, apparently does not mind exploiting Beckett behind the facade of liberal, transgendered identity politics.”
But Jo B. Paoletti, author of “Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America” told FoxNews.com she believes critics are overreacting.
“Lots of kids, say 7 and under, might ask their parents for something that would seem to be cross gender, and I think most parents, especially in the privacy of their own home might think, what’s the big deal?" Paoletti said.
J.Crew spokeswoman Margot Fooshee said the company had no comment on the ad. Jenna Lyons did not respond to direct requests for comment.
When asked if the ad crossed the line, a majority of Fox News Twitter users backed Paoletti.
“What line would that be? Not forcing your child to like a color just because gender stereotypes say they should?” one commenter known as along_the_path wrote.
But not everyone agreed.
“Why would I want my son to paint his toenails pink?” ohthatmomma wrote. “Why woukd [sic] I want my son to paint his toenails at all?”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/11/jcrew-ad-showing-boy-pink-nail-polish-sparks-debate-gender-identity/
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Disgusting.
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It's all part of the globalists plan to turn men into obedient pussies so we are easier to control. That is why you see all these emo kids and Justin Bieber types looking like little girls as if it's a good thing.
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I would think gender identity has nothing to do with what a person wears.
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I would think gender identity has nothing to do with what a person wears.
why would you think that oz?
gender identity is how you see yourself...either as a male or female
this is why I always say that gender and sex are not the same thing but tons of ppl on here never understand...gender is a mental thing, sex is a biological thing.
if you identify yourself as a female then you will try to align yourself with the female traits if you choose to indulge that so culture plays a big role in how gender identity expresses itself.
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I would think gender identity has nothing to do with what a person wears.
Actually "gender identity" has a specific definition that includes "gender related appearance."
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That's pretty fucked, I had a friend who's single mom use to put him in dresses as a toddler, and put bows in his hair. She has pictures of him dressed like a girl all over her house. The kids a pro football player now.
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This is really a big deal? Didn't your kids walk around in your wife's shoes and shit?
Mine did... walked around all girly and said "I look like a lady".
He was just messing around and thought it was funny...
Why is this even a big deal at all?
Disgusting.
Why?
It's all part of the globalists plan to turn men into obedient pussies so we are easier to control. That is why you see all these emo kids and Justin Bieber types looking like little girls as if it's a good thing.
Are you insane? Emo kids have always looked that way... Ever since the coffee shop days of poetry readings in the 60s.... Androgynous music of the 80s and so on.
Kids follow parents examples and one time of wearing high heels or painted nails or whatever does not make a gender.
You guys are far too sensitive... Now if they let their kid walk out of the house wearing it, then we have an entirely different context and I get it, but something that is supposed to be "goofing off at the house"... so what?
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why would you think that oz?
gender identity is how you see yourself...either as a male or female
this is why I always say that gender and sex are not the same thing but tons of ppl on here never understand...gender is a mental thing, sex is a biological thing.
if you identify yourself as a female then you will try to align yourself with the female traits if you choose to indulge that so culture plays a big role in how gender identity expresses itself.
Yeah I think I have seen you debate issue like this a lot here.
It just struck me upon first treading this that how a person dresses shouldnt determine his or her gender
identity. So maybe I missed the point in what gender identity means as beach referred to.
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Yeah I think I have seen you debate issue like this a lot here.
It just struck me upon first treading this that how a person dresses shouldnt determine his or her gender
identity. So maybe I missed the point in what gender identity means as beach referred to.
It has been a while, but we talked a little about this several years ago. Still as confusing today as it was then IMO; especially the "gender-related self-image" part, whatever that means. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=134605.0
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Great. An entire generation of young boys being brought up to become the next "Straw Man" from getbig.com.
I am counting down the days until 2012 when that asteroid is supposed to destroy earth. Frankly, I wont miss it much.
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That kid should have his nails ripped off.
Utterly disgusting
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Honestly, this disturbed me deeply... :-X
An ad like this being considered acceptable, that's scary........ :-X
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I don't think i am even a little bothered by it.
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That pic is beyond disgusting and a perfect example of why our nation is in the toilet.
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Yep, it wasn't communism....
It wasn't the Chinese.....
It wasn't the terrorists......
It was pink nail polish that brought the country to its knees.
If only the 19 hijackers knew that before 9/11
I am traveling to Seattle next week. I'll be sure to see if pink nail polish is on the poster with knives and explosives.
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You clowns in california are really nuts. do you think a male brought up painting his toe nails pink and playing with gay shit his whole life is going to take on those terrorists in the plane?
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You clowns in california are really nuts. do you think a male brought up painting his toe nails pink and playing with gay shit his whole life is going to take on those terrorists in the plane?
You do realize that kids do shit when they are young... It's obviously not his entire life.
You got kids? Did your 3 or 4 year old never run around in your wife's shoes?
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You do realize that kids do shit when they are young... It's obviously not his entire life.
You got kids? Did your 3 or 4 year old never run around in your wife's shoes?
I can honestly say i never painted my nails pink. I played with bb guns, sling shots, knives, m80's, paint ball guns, fishing rods etc.
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I can honestly say i never painted my nails pink. I played with bb guns, sling shots, knives, m80's, paint ball guns, fishing rods etc.
Then you are obviously the only one... Every little 3 year old wears his mom's shoes around and does retarded shit when he's little... It's called being a kid and thinking you're funny.
My kid did it... most kids did it... It happens all the time... Then when they get to be about 8 or so... They start playing with BB guns, and shit like that. Once their social interaction is more than with their mother all the time and they start hanging out with other boys and what not, they start doing more "guy" stuff.
My son stopped when he was about 4 or so, because he was in daycare with a lot of other boys and they did boy stuff... That's how it goes.
I am pretty sure at one point in time my son got is nails painted by his mom while she was doing hers... he would inevitably be around when she was doing her nails or what not and he would say, oh, i wanna do that, and she would do it.
They would take it off before he went to pre-school or whatever and that was that.
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I can honestly say i never painted my nails pink. I played with bb guns, sling shots, knives, m80's, paint ball guns, fishing rods etc.
And look how you turned out. A blind hatred for authority and a belief that the world will end any moment so your dried food packets will come in handy.
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You clowns in california are really nuts. do you think a male brought up painting his toe nails pink and playing with gay shit his whole life is going to take on those terrorists in the plane?
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH
Shit dude, you really crack me up sometimes.
thanks.
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There is a difference between boys and girls and how they should be raised. I see big difference between a toddler walking around the house in his mom's (and dad's) shoes, and a boy's toenails being painted like he's a chick. We are raising a generation of sissies. (Sissy does not = homosexual.)
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That's right, pink nail polish can destroy a manly man. :D
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There is a difference between boys and girls and how they should be raised. I see big difference between a toddler walking around the house in his mom's (and dad's) shoes, and a boy's toenails being painted like he's a chick. We are raising a generation of sissies. (Sissy does not = homosexual.)
Dude... when you're 3... they are the same thing.
Do you guys even have boys? Don't you have a bunch of girls BB? Didn't you ever play football with them? Or something of that nature? None of them were ever a little tomboyish as little girls?
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That's right, pink nail polish can destroy a manly man. :D
Wurd. :-\
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Dude... when you're 3... they are the same thing.
Do you guys even have boys? Don't you have a bunch of girls BB? Didn't you ever play football with them? Or something of that nature? None of them were ever a little tomboyish as little girls?
The kid in that picture is not 3. He looks about 6.
I have a son, but I played all sorts of sports with my girls. Also taught them how to lift, head butt, grapple, play fantasy football, etc.
But we're talking about boys and pink nail polish. There would have been volcanic eruptions in my house if my wife ever tried to paint my son's toenails. :) You have to raise boys to be boys, not girliemen.
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The kid in that picture is not 3. He looks about 6.
I have a son, but I played all sorts of sports with my girls. Also taught them how to lift, head butt, grapple, play fantasy football, etc.
But we're talking about boys and pink nail polish. There would have been volcanic eruptions in my house if my wife ever tried to paint my son's toenails. :) You have to raise boys to be boys, not girliemen.
So it's ok to teach girls how to play like boys, but if you do the same thing to a boy, it's some downfall of society... I gotcha.
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So it's ok to teach girls how to play like boys, but if you do the same thing to a boy, it's some downfall of society... I gotcha.
That about sums it up, except I didn't say it's some downfall of society. I said we're raising a generation of sissies.
I remember telling one of my girls she "throws like a girl." Had to fix that. :)
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That about sums it up, except I didn't say it's some downfall of society. I said we're raising a generation of sissies.
I remember telling one of my girls she "throws like a girl." Had to fix that. :)
LOLOLOLOL
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Somebody should take that kid in the other room, then go slap that bitch in the mouth with their cock and remind her the role of women and men.
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You clowns in california are really nuts. do you think a male brought up painting his toe nails pink and playing with gay shit his whole life is going to take on those terrorists in the plane?
x2, they arent gona try to kill terrorists, they will run over and talk about what a pretty window curtian the terrorist is wearing and try to suck the guys dick
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it's a manly shade of pink. ;)
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it's a manly shade of pink.
o cool that makes it better :D
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That about sums it up, except I didn't say it's some downfall of society. I said we're raising a generation of sissies.
I remember telling one of my girls she "throws like a girl." Had to fix that. :)
I don't think a 7 year old kid equates to a sissy at 21, but whatever makes you feel like you're right dude.
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That kid should be playing w rocks and worms, not painting his toe nails pink.
Wtf is wrong wi th you people?
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“Not only is Beckett likely to change his favorite color as early as tomorrow, Jenna's indulgence (or encouragement) could make life hard for the boy in the future
This seems to be the issue imo.
Like Tu said, lots of kids do things (being silly or not) but most of the time these things are done in somewhat of a private situation, not on a national (worldwide?) advertisement with his name attached forever.
Even if the kid grows up w/a totally blase attitude about the situation, his peers might not.
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That kid should be playing w rocks and worms, not painting his toe nails pink.
Wtf is wrong wi th you people?
Yeah, because if he wasn't playing with rocks and worms he might have a vagina.
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This seems to be the issue imo.
Like Tu said, lots of kids do things (being silly or not) but most of the time these things are done in somewhat of a private situation, not on a national (worldwide?) advertisement with his name attached forever.
Even if the kid grows up w/a totally blase attitude about the situation, his peers might not.
Then what message does that send? Oh son don't wear pink someone might call you gay? Liberty and freedom are paramount to our country, being able to express yourself in any way shape or form is freedom. Being afraid that someone might pick on you is a fear based attitude that gets a country or person no where.
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Yeah, because if he wasn't playing with rocks and worms he might have a vagina.
Science according to 333. Lesson 1 - you can grow a vagina if your toes are painted pink.
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That kid should be playing w rocks and worms, not painting his toe nails pink.
Wtf is wrong wi th you people?
You don't get the irony of thinking it's 'gay' to have your nails painted, yet instead playing with creatures that look like penises
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Then what message does that send? Oh son don't wear pink someone might call you gay? Liberty and freedom are paramount to our country, being able to express yourself in any way shape or form is freedom. Being afraid that someone might pick on you is a fear based attitude that gets a country or person no where.
I'm not saying it's right that kids, teens and even adults torment each other for whatever reason, but it is a fact.
This kid being as young as he is didn't make the decision to put himself in that ad but could reap some difficulties from it....I think that's why some people are against it.
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Reminds me of this clip a bit
nsfw language
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That kid should be playing w rocks and worms, not painting his toe nails pink.
Yep.
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I'm not saying it's right that kids, teens and even adults torment each other for whatever reason, but it is a fact.
This kid being as young as he is didn't make the decision to put himself in that ad but could reap some difficulties from it....I think that's why some people are against it.
And the idea is then to conform to the bullies wishes? What does that say? Don't be yourself you if you may not fit in?
Difficulties from who? Teenagers? So what, if his family and friendships are strong who cares what someone thinks of an ad he did.
This fear based raising is the antithesis of freedom and liberty.
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And the idea is then to conform to the bullies wishes? What does that say? Don't be yourself you if you may not fit in?
Difficulties from who? Teenagers? So what, if his family and friendships are strong who cares what someone thinks of an ad he did.
This fear based raising is the antithesis of freedom and liberty.
You're missing my point. Forget it.
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This seems to be the issue imo.
Like Tu said, lots of kids do things (being silly or not) but most of the time these things are done in somewhat of a private situation, not on a national (worldwide?) advertisement with his name attached forever.
Even if the kid grows up w/a totally blase attitude about the situation, his peers might not.
He would definitely get teased.
I think the goal of advertisements like this to send the message that there really are no gender distinctions anymore.
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You're missing my point. Forget it.
No i get it. His peers might look down on him. And my point is who cares?
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No i get it. His peers might look down on him. And my point is who cares?
that kids parents will when he runs off and commits suicide like kids are nowa days because they get made fun of a lil.
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No i get it. His peers might look down on him. And my point is who cares?
Thanks.
Best case scenario is yours...that if he gets teased and it doesn't bother him...maybe he could even encourage others and help them w/his reaction or non-reaction.
Worst case, he gets teased/bullied and it affects him greatly in a detrimental way. Unfortunately some kids take it all the way.
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He would definitely get teased.
I think the goal of advertisements like this to send the message that there really are no gender distinctions anymore.
That's the goal?
I thought the goal of any advertising is to sell more product. So you think J Crew is trying send a message about gender distinctions or are they just tapping in on something that already exists?
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Thanks.
Best case scenario is yours...that if he gets teased and it doesn't bother him...maybe he could even encourage others and help them w/his reaction or non-reaction.
Worst case, he gets teased/bullied and it affects him greatly in a detrimental way. Unfortunately some kids take it all the way.
Kids self correct based on social norms. I don't think our kids today go around thinking wearing pink nail polish is a cool thing. So I would think that the kids would take that crap off even before he starts going to school.
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Fuck this. Boys need to be like huck finn and tom sawyer, not spongebob and bieber.
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Fuck this. Boys need to be like huck finn and tom sawyer, not spongebob and bieber.
liberals dont like that. It means they grow up free thinking and have a backbone.
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Its harder to indoctrinate someone who has a backbone and will stand up for what they think is right, rather than someone who is easily manipulated and persuaded
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Kids self correct based on social norms. I don't think our kids today go around thinking wearing pink nail polish is a cool thing. So I would think that the kids would take that crap off even before he starts going to school.
Yes and before they had pics of them wearing it posted nationwide and on the internet.
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That's the goal?
I thought the goal of any advertising is to sell more product. So you think J Crew is trying send a message about gender distinctions or are they just tapping in on something that already exists?
Good point. I should have said one of the goals, instead of "the" goal.
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Good point. I should have said one of the goals, instead of "the" goal.
Yeah, if they had guys buying clothes, jewelry, accessories and make up like women do they'd double their business. Lol
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Not my son if I ever have one. Fuck that. He will be shooting, fighting, hiking, fishing, cutting, biking, and doing man stuff.
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Yeah, if they had guys buying clothes, jewelry, accessories and make up like women do they'd double their business. Lol
lol. Yep. :D
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Not my son if I ever have one. Fuck that. He will be shooting, fighting, hiking, fishing, cutting, biking, and doing man stuff.
Good man. :)
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Yeah, if they had guys buying clothes, jewelry, accessories and make up like women do they'd double their business. Lol
J. Crew sells men's shit already.
I think this was an ad specifically to target mothers... mothers think it's cute and shit.
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Targeting the soccer sluts who need to be rapped in the mouth and kicked in the c---
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J. Crew sells men's shit already.
I think this was an ad specifically to target mothers... mothers think it's cute and shit.
Well Tu, like i said earlier, it doesn't bother me at all. If i saw a kid running around outside with pink nail polish i wouldn't trip or think his parents are rasing him wrong. Frankly i think the whole gender identity debate is over kill. If some dude wants to wear a dress i really don't care.
Frankly if the kid was outside I'd just be glad he wasn't inside playing Black Ops eating Twinkies and Macaroni & Cheese weighing 500 pounds. I think this is a far bigger issue.
And good for J. Crew or any other company trying to create new business. The market dictates what these companies sell.
the whole men should dress like men and vice versa is dumb. Dress how ever the fuck you want, who cares. And Tom Sawyer was gay anyway.
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Targeting the soccer sluts who need to be rapped in the mouth and kicked in the c---
Yeah, that's a real classy post.
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Frankly if the [overgrown] kid was outside I'd just be glad he wasn't inside playing Black Ops
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Don't get me wrong, I love call of duty, but you have to agree, there are way too many fat big boned kids these days. Why? cause they don't play outside much like we used to do.
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Yeah, that's a real classy post.
It is what it is. I see these dolled up hags and wenches coddling their sissy sons and babing them. Its awful. Boys need rocks, guns, worms, knives, footballs, etc, not makeup, Barbie Dinette Set, and nail polish.
Whoever disagrees with me on this probably voted for obama anyway - so fuck off.
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Don't get me wrong, I love call of duty, but you have to agree, there are way too many fat big boned kids these days. Why? cause they don't play outside much like we used to do.
THEY ARE PUTTING ON PINK NAIL POLISH AND PINK PANTIES DAMN IT!
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It is what it is. I see these dolled up hags and wenches coddling their sissy sons and babing them. Its awful. Boys need rocks, guns, worms, knives, footballs, etc, not makeup, Barbie Dinette Set, and nail polish.
Whoever disagrees with me on this probably voted for obama anyway - so fuck off.
babying young children is not bad... When you're little, you should be babied... They're fucking babies dude!
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Don't get me wrong, I love call of duty, but you have to agree, there are way too many fat big boned kids these days. Why? cause they don't play outside much like we used to do.
True. What about big boned parents who play Call of Duty?
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babying young children is not bad... When you're little, you should be babied... They're fucking babies dude!
Kid in that pic was not a baby. i'm for tough love. World is a jungle and kids need to be taught how to survive, thrive, and live i the world the way it is, not how the pussy lib men (Alan Colmes, Ezra Klein, etc), and domineering c%^& women try to exact on others.
Pink toe nail poish? Come on! What next - a fuckin Shirley Temple dress?
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True. What about big boned parents who play Call of Duty?
They need a boot in the gut and boot camp themselves. I'm sick of panzi nation.
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Kid in that pic was not a baby. i'm for tough love. World is a jungle and kids need to be taught how to survive, thrive, and live i the world the way it is, not how the pussy lib men (Alan Colmes, Ezra Klein, etc), and domineering c%^& women try to exact on others.
Pink toe nail poish? Come on! What next - a fuckin Shirley Temple dress?
LOL!
That probably is next. :-\
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They need a boot in the gut and boot camp themselves. I'm sick of panzi nation.
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/3/6/128808441492353106.jpg)
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Kid in that pic was not a baby. i'm for tough love. World is a jungle and kids need to be taught how to survive, thrive, and live i the world the way it is, not how the pussy lib men (Alan Colmes, Ezra Klein, etc), and domineering c%^& women try to exact on others.
Pink toe nail poish? Come on! What next - a fuckin Shirley Temple dress?
That kid is like 5 or 6... at least that's what he looks like.
That is a fucking baby.
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i'm not kidding - we are pussy nation now. The soft lazy wasteful and impish pieces of trash are running the show. No wonder we are laughed at.
Just look at some of the so called "men" we see on TV and culture in general. Its awful.
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That kid is like 5 or 6... at least that's what he looks like.
That is a fucking baby.
When i was five - i was throwing dirt bombs, playing w gi joe, etc.
Sorry TU - pink toe nail polish is so not ok its not funny.
TU - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - PPPPIIIINNNNNKKKK TTTOOOEEEEE NNNAAAIIILLLL PPPOOOLLLIIIISHHHHHH! ! !
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When i was five - i was throwing dirt bombs, playing w gi joe, etc.
Sorry TU - pink toe nail polish is so not ok its not funny.
TU - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - PPPPIIIINNNNNKKKK TTTOOOEEEEE NNNAAAIIILLLL PPPOOOLLLIIIISHHHHHH! ! !
I just don't see the big deal at 5. If he were 10, I'd think differently, but at 5... Eh... no big.
Sorry dude... I don't see the atrocity here. My son is 9... All boy... I don't doubt at some point in time his mother did something retarded like this, but of course now, he wouldn't even think of allowing it, cause he's got me for a dad.
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It is what it is. I see these dolled up hags and wenches coddling their sissy sons and babing them. Its awful. Boys need rocks, guns, worms, knives, footballs, etc, not makeup, Barbie Dinette Set, and nail polish.
Whoever disagrees with me on this probably voted for obama anyway - so fuck off.
Hahahaahah.
So now hatred is breeding paranoia.
Hahahahahaahhaahh
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True. What about big boned parents who play Call of Duty?
What about them? :)
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When i was five - i was throwing dirt bombs, playing w gi joe, etc.
Sorry TU - pink toe nail polish is so not ok its not funny.
TU - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - PPPPIIIINNNNNKKKK TTTOOOEEEEE NNNAAAIIILLLL PPPOOOLLLIIIISHHHHHH! ! !
I figured that when you were five you'd be writing letters to the social security administration warning them of possible fraud from Hawaii.
Are you homophobic 333333? Lol
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What about them? :)
I think they rock. :)
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I think they rock. :)
:). You Play that a lot?
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I don't mind gays who keep to themselves and stay in the closet. The flamboyant fags are revolting to me and an example of societal rot, just like in ancient rome.
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I think if you're gay you're just gay... the flamboyance makes no sense to me and is simply a "attention whore" type of thing.
I have gay friends, I know they are gay... They don't bother me and they know I'm not.
They don't run around saying "fabulous" all the damn time.
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:). You Play that a lot?
I didn't till my kid bought Call of Duty (4?). Then she asked me to get Black Ops. So I did. And I ruled that game. After about 40 hours.
I just finished it over the weekend. Do you have it?
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I didn't till my kid bought Call of Duty (4?). Then she asked me to get Black Ops. So I did. And I ruled that game. After about 40 hours.
I just finished it over the weekend. Do you have it?
No, I have been meaning to get it. I have all the other ones. I love the game, especially sniping. I never have really played online. Lots of my friends do, I don't have the time.
My son and I play co-op a lot. It's fun especially the one level with all the juggernauts. .
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No, I have been meaning to get it. I have all the other ones. I love the game, especially sniping. I never have really played online. Lots of my friends do, I don't have the time.
My son and I play co-op a lot. It's fun especially the one level with all the juggernauts. .
Being a sniper is my favorite part too.
I was a little upset last week and scolded my kid, because after playing the game so much I had a nightmare that someone was chasing me, trying to kill me with a rifle. It was so bad that I woke up to use the bathroom, went back to sleep, and the dream picked up right where it left off. It was all my kid's fault. :)
How do you like 1-3? I was thinking about getting them.
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Modern warfare 1-2 are great. COD 2 and 3. I barely remember. COD world at war is ok too. Some of the levels in it match nicely to some of the episodes of "the Pacific".
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Modern warfare 1-2 are great. COD 2 and 3. I barely remember. COD world at war is ok too. Some of the levels in it match nicely to some of the episodes of "the Pacific".
Cool. Thanks. I should probably stay away from these and stick with Ratchet and Clank . . . but I can't help it. :)
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That kid should be playing w rocks and worms, not painting his toe nails pink.
Wtf is wrong wi th you people?
what toys do your kids play with ?
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I think if you're gay you're just gay... the flamboyance makes no sense to me and is simply a "attention whore" type of thing.
I have gay friends, I know they are gay... They don't bother me and they know I'm not.
They don't run around saying "fabulous" all the damn time.
they must be fabulous friends.
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what toys do your kids play with ?
ak's, AR's, sticks, knives, m80's, paintball guns, sling shots, chains, rocks, dit, grease, worms, snakes, lizards, etc.
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I don't mind gays who keep to themselves and stay in the closet. The flamboyant fags are revolting to me and an example of societal rot, just like in ancient rome.
Hahaha don't start that bullsh*t again. Any historian who 'claims' that has been debunked and shown for nothing more than a fool.
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Fuck this. Boys need to be like huck finn and tom sawyer, not spongebob and bieber.
Haha you know Twain was a socialist right? :D
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Haha you know Twain was a socialist right? :D
wasn't he also an atheist? "Letters from Earth"
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wasn't he also an atheist? "Letters from Earth"
Again - if you obama voters think pink toe nail polish is ok on boys - i really have nothing else to discuss with you. Explains a ton.
Pink toe nail polish? WTF? My dad probably would have run my mother over with the car if she did that.
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As a Birthing cromagno man that you are I believe your dad would have.
And why do you keep accusing me of being a OBama supporter?
Oh yeah, is it because you got nothing with your Birther bull crap so now you have to try and attack me for rit?
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Again - if you obama voters think pink toe nail polish is ok on boys - i really have nothing else to discuss with you. Explains a ton.
Pink toe nail polish? WTF? My dad probably would have run my mother over with the car if she did that.
Sounds like your dad was a muslim extremist no? ;D
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Sounds like your dad was a muslim extremist no? ;D
No, just a wife beater wearing, tomato sauce stained undershirt, blue collar, lunch pale, working class guy from the Bronx who raised his family, never took a penny from the govt, never complained, never looked for welfare, worked 10 plus hours a day, etc.
Unlike your typical democrat parasite and leech who is akin to a locust on the taxpayer.
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ak's, AR's, sticks, knives, m80's, paintball guns, sling shots, chains, rocks, dit, grease, worms, snakes, lizards, etc.
so, when he comes as gay, he'll be a bottom.... ;)