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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: MindSpin on April 11, 2011, 05:50:54 PM
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It seems more like Nick is getting props than being confronted.
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let's not forget Diaz is the same guy that went after Joe Riggs in a LV hospital emergency room after they fought, and we all know why Daley will probably never fight in the UFC again...
so I guess it's news when they're not acting like assholes after their fights now...
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Confronts LOL Daleys acting like a fan
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I like both guys a lot. I would like to see them both back in the UFC.
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I like both guys a lot. I would like to see them both back in the UFC.
Agreed. I do believe Daley should be given another chance in the UFC. Heat of the moment type actions should be given second chances. Bad choice, but still... come on. Dana doesn't like to go back on his word though.
As for Diaz, dude is, and always has been a beast. Him and Lawler I'd LOVE to see back. Id' also like to see a GSP/DIAZ brawl.
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Confronts LOL Daleys acting like a fan
It's not my headline. It's the headline from the article.
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Diaz has looked amazing in his last outings, but at the same time, he's not fighting the very best MMA has to offer.
Diaz is a true, complete fighter, that can compete with the best. The problem with Diaz is that he may not be worth the headaches that come with him. He hasn't shown any improvement in his PR, although I do think at times this is his "roll" in MMA and he plays it up well.
I guarantee, we will not see Daley in the UFC. He's a great striker, but he's far from a complete fighter that comes with a lot of PR issues as well.
Both these guys confuse me...In what other profession, sports or not, would anyone think it was ok to act the way these guys do?
Can you imagine having a meeting with your boss or client and acting like these fools? You got to play the game if you're in it to make money.
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Diaz will still get held down for 3 rounds by the UFC's top welterweight all of whom have elite wrestling i.e. GSP, Fitch, KOS, etc. I'll tell you who I would love to see him fight....BJ Pen. That's a great match up...
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I think a rematch with Diego would be great as well.
The amount of recklessness in that fight would be CRAZY!
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I think a rematch with Diego would be great as well.
The amount of recklessness in that fight would be CRAZY!
:)
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Diaz needs to fight GSP.
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Diaz needs to fight GSP.
He hasn't been able to earn the title shot yet...
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It appears that Tyrone Woodley will be getting the next crack at Nick Diaz. He brings that same (if not better) elite caliber wrestling that has been known to give Nick problems in the past..plus he's pretty crisp on the feet. It'll be a tough test for Nick for sure, but the fight is definitely winnable.
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Woodley would be another easy payday for Diaz. Diaz would tear him apart on the feet and Woodley has limited JJ at best.
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Woodley would be another easy payday for Diaz. Diaz would tear him apart on the feet and Woodley has limited JJ at best.
This is obviously a statement of ignorance...Diaz hasn't fought a decent wrestler since he fought Sean Sherk. Woodley is even more accomplished thank Sean as a wrestler (d-1 all american). Half of his wins are by submission and according to Ricardo Liborio he's got the BJJ skills to avoid being subbed by anybody on the planet (He said this before his fight with Andre Galvao-who happens to be way more decorated as a BJJ black belt than Diaz). Diaz has better hands, but it is a very real possibility that Woodley can take Nick down and Lnp him for 5 rounds. Also, Nick is a little reckless and gets dropped alot, plus he moves forward a little to recklessly as well....which wrestlers love. Nick should win, but stylistically it's a bad match up. Fight finder won't tell you that.
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This is obviously a statement of ignorance...Diaz hasn't fought a decent wrestler since he fought Sean Sherk. Woodley is even more accomplished thank Sean as a wrestler (d-1 all american). Half of his wins are by submission and according to Ricardo Liborio he's got the BJJ skills to avoid being subbed by anybody on the planet (He said this before his fight with Andre Galvao-who happens to be way more decorated as a BJJ black belt than Diaz). Diaz has better hands, but it is a very real possibility that Woodley can take Nick down and Lnp him for 5 rounds. Also, Nick is a little reckless and gets dropped alot, plus he moves forward a little to recklessly as well....which wrestlers love. Nick should win, but stylistically it's a bad match up. Fight finder won't tell you that.
Relax bro....can't your mexi-fat ass take a comment and discuss without trying to be hostile?
Woodley has not faced anyone NEAR the talent level of Diaz and for you to say that Diaz has problems with wrestlers is assuming something that was a weakness years ago. Diaz gets dropped a lot....really? Recently? Besides Daley, who has dropped Diaz recently?
I could care less what trainers say (Ricardo Liborio) about a guy. Woodley has not been super impressive when you look at the talent he's been facing as well as his limited skillset. He reminds me of Koscheck back in his TUF1 days to be honest.
Let's not get all caught up in you dislike of me....My original statement stands. This would be another easy payday for Diaz.
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I like Diaz in the ring but I could do without all the soap opera crap....
pretty sure there's a jail cell somewhere with his name on it for doing something stupid when his fighting days are over.
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pretty sure there's a jail cell somewhere with his name on it for doing something stupid when his fighting days are over.
QFT
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Relax bro....can't your mexi-fat ass take a comment and discuss without trying to be hostile?
Woodley has not faced anyone NEAR the talent level of Diaz and for you to say that Diaz has problems with wrestlers is assuming something that was a weakness years ago. Diaz gets dropped a lot....really? Recently? Besides Daley, who has dropped Diaz recently?
I could care less what trainers say (Ricardo Liborio) about a guy. Woodley has not been super impressive when you look at the talent he's been facing as well as his limited skillset. He reminds me of Koscheck back in his TUF1 days to be honest.
Let's not get all caught up in you dislike of me....My original statement stands. This would be another easy payday for Diaz.
Diaz has been strategically matched up with guys who will stand and bang with him to make exiting fights since his departure from the UFC, Daley,Cyborg,Noons,Sakurai,Zaromskis,Smith,Shamrock,Denny,Corbbery,Inoue,Aina,Gomi...All primarily stand up fighters, a couple of which have ok defensive BJJ. Diaz was dropped twice by Kj Noons,Gomi dropped him,Zaromskis dropped him,Aina dropped him,Daley dropped him twice...he gets hit alot...his boxing is mostly offensive. He's an accumulative pressure fighter with decent body-head combos, but he still kinda leaves his head out there and holds his hands at his waist alot. Comparing Woodley to Kos on TUF 1...just tells me- (1. you didn't watch TUF 1 and (2.- you've never actually seen him fight. Stick to bodybuilding and shrinking your beanbag, you still don't have a grasp on how skill sets match up in MMA (probably because you've never thrown a punch in your life).
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Diaz has been strategically matched up with guys who will stand and bang with him to make exiting fights since his departure from the UFC, Daley,Cyborg,Noons,Sakurai,Zaromskis,Smith,Shamrock,Denny,Corbbery,Inoue,Aina,Gomi...All primarily stand up fighters, a couple of which have ok defensive BJJ. Diaz was dropped twice by Kj Noons,Gomi dropped him,Zaromskis dropped him,Aina dropped him,Daley dropped him twice...he gets hit alot...his boxing is mostly offensive. He's an accumulative pressure fighter with decent body-head combos, but he still kinda leaves his head out there and holds his hands at his waist alot. Comparing Woodley to Kos on TUF 1...just tells me- (1. you didn't watch TUF 1 and (2.- you've never actually seen him fight. Stick to bodybuilding and shrinking your beanbag, you still don't have a grasp on how skill sets match up in MMA (probably because you've never thrown a punch in your life).
Like I said...a fight with Woodley would be another easy payday for Diaz.
We don't need your poor imitation of Freddie Roach to figure this out. Got it?
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Woodley was super unimpressive in his last fight against some nobody whos name I cant even remember.
He's not the same caliber fighter as Diaz is.
He's got one chance and that is to take him down and try to keep it there and as long as he possibly can.
It'll be a shit fight that no one wants to see.
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Woodley was super unimpressive in his last fight against some nobody whos name I cant even remember.
He's not the same caliber fighter as Diaz is.
He's got one chance and that is to take him down and try to keep it there and as long as he possibly can.
It'll be a shit fight that no one wants to see.
I agree 100%. Diaz has pretty much run through everybody at WW in Strikeforce. I can understand why Diaz wants to do boxing. Why would someone put themselves through training camp to fight some mediocre greehorn like Woddley, who he's supposed to win? Diaz has nothing to gain from fighting him or any of the mediocre talent in the SF WW division.
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Woodley was super unimpressive in his last fight against some nobody whos name I cant even remember.
He's not the same caliber fighter as Diaz is.
He's got one chance and that is to take him down and try to keep it there and as long as he possibly can.
It'll be a shit fight that no one wants to see.
Tarec Saffadine was Woodley's last opponent, he's actually a legit, battle tested, world class kickboxer with pretty solid takedown defense who trains out of Team quest. It was a clear victory but unimpressive I agree. Jake Shleids and post UFC 69 GSP have employed the old " take him down and try to keep it there and as long as he possibly can" routine to which you refer. It's pretty effective against guys who rely on stand up to win fights, factor in sub defense and there's nothing the person on bottom can do,most of the top guys in the WW division utilize this same gameplan. That style is a nightmare for Nick Diaz, which is probably why he has been kept away from guys like that for so long.
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Tarec Saffadine was Woodley's last opponent, he's actually a legit, battle tested, world class kickboxer with pretty solid takedown defense who trains out of Team quest. It was a clear victory but unimpressive I agree. Jake Shleids and post UFC 69 GSP have employed the old " take him down and try to keep it there and as long as he possibly can" routine to which you refer. It's pretty effective against guys who rely on stand up to win fights, factor in sub defense and there's nothing the person on bottom can do,most of the top guys in the WW division utilize this same gameplan. That style is a nightmare for Nick Diaz, which is probably why he has been kept away from guys like that for so long.
So basically you're saying it would be an easy payday for Diaz, you just don't want to admit it and are trying to twist the mediocre talent of Woodley and the WW division of Strikeforce into something more than it is.
You remind me of a a shitty promoter who moonlights as a Tae Bo instructor at Curves. Am I right?
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Diaz has been strategically matched up with guys who will stand and bang with him to make exiting fights since his departure from the UFC, Daley,Cyborg,Noons,Sakurai,Zaromskis,Smith,Shamrock,Denny,Corbbery,Inoue,Aina,Gomi...All primarily stand up fighters, a couple of which have ok defensive BJJ. Diaz was dropped twice by Kj Noons,Gomi dropped him,Zaromskis dropped him,Aina dropped him,Daley dropped him twice...he gets hit alot...his boxing is mostly offensive. He's an accumulative pressure fighter with decent body-head combos, but he still kinda leaves his head out there and holds his hands at his waist alot. Comparing Woodley to Kos on TUF 1...just tells me- (1. you didn't watch TUF 1 and (2.- you've never actually seen him fight. Stick to bodybuilding and shrinking your beanbag, you still don't have a grasp on how skill sets match up in MMA (probably because you've never thrown a punch in your life).
Now aint that the truth, especially the last part. Right on, man.
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Tarec Saffadine was Woodley's last opponent, he's actually a legit, battle tested, world class kickboxer with pretty solid takedown defense who trains out of Team quest. It was a clear victory but unimpressive I agree. Jake Shleids and post UFC 69 GSP have employed the old " take him down and try to keep it there and as long as he possibly can" routine to which you refer. It's pretty effective against guys who rely on stand up to win fights, factor in sub defense and there's nothing the person on bottom can do,most of the top guys in the WW division utilize this same gameplan. That style is a nightmare for Nick Diaz, which is probably why he has been kept away from guys like that for so long.
its not that he's been matched up against guys that he can beat or provide a good match up for him. its just that there arent many legit welters in strikeforce or dream for him to fight against.
im not saying hes gonna beat woodley. but he should. tyrone woodley wouldnt even be in a top 10 discussion in the ufc welters division, while diaz right now is ranked top 5 in the world (even if its due to his win streak against lesser competition ) .
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So basically you're saying it would be an easy payday for Diaz, you just don't want to admit it and are trying to twist the mediocre talent of Woodley and the WW division of Strikeforce into something more than it is.
You remind me of a a shitty promoter who moonlights as a Tae Bo instructor at Curves. Am I right?
Diaz should win, but wrestlers are his kryptonite....if anybody in the welterweight division in Strikeforce had a style that could beat him it's Woodley and that's factoring in both fighters strengths and weaknesses (something you should try, relying on fight finder as your sole source of info is a bitch move). Are you trying to say I remind you of Dana White? and are you hitting on me? We know you are in love with Dana White, but keep your homo erotic fantasies to yourself sister.
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Diaz should win, but wrestlers are his kryptonite....if anybody in the welterweight division in Strikeforce had a style that could beat him it's Woodley and that's factoring in both fighters strengths and weaknesses (something you should try, relying on fight finder as your sole source of info is a bitch move). Are you trying to say I remind you of Dana White? and are you hitting on me? We know you are in love with Dana White, but keep your homo erotic fantasies to yourself sister.
Glad you finally agree with what I said originally. I accept your apology once again. It would have been a lot easier if you didn't get disgruntled with everything I say on here.
I know that you don't like Dana White, but please, you don't have to take it out on everyone that happens to have respect for the guy.
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Glad you finally agree with what I said originally. I accept your apology once again.
Oh, you mean me just repeating what I said originally??? Someone is just learning to read apparently, I'm proud of you, that's a good first step. Maybe your next one will be to actually understand MMA and how it works.
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Oh, you mean me just repeating what I said originally??? Someone is just learning to read apparently, I'm proud of you, that's a good first step. Maybe your next one will be to actually understand MMA and how it works.
He doesnt care. Only cares about brand, popularity, star power, gate sales, Dana White and Zuffa. None of which relates to actual fighting ability, which he knows nothing about.
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He doesnt care. Only cares about brand, popularity, star power, gate sales, Dana White and Zuffa. None of which relates to actual fighting ability, which he knows nothing about.
I know everything about MMA. I know it bothers you immensely that I'm always right.
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I know everything about MMA. I know it bothers you immensely that I'm always right.
lmfao you've proven you know nothing about fighting.
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lmfao you've proven you know nothing about fighting.
FEDOR= G.C.C.O.A.T
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Diaz should win, but wrestlers are his kryptonite....
agreed but I think Nick has evolved since his UFC days.....
Jury is still out about how he would match up against GSP, but I think he'd have less problems against guys like KOS or Sanchez these days.