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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: theworm on April 11, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
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what does the GOD of hormones think? best overall cycle to add 10-15 pounds of LBM
paulumbo recommend a deca/var cycle, others say test plus finasteride, others say there is no difference, its genetic (but why speed up 10 years of loss).
thoughts on this issue?
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
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Check this out. http://www.hishairclinic.com/gallery/
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I'm thinking the same thing.
I wanna try some gear. But going bald is fucked up.
My cousin did a lot of gear starting at age 18, and he was BALD as fuck by the time he was just 22 years old :o
I don't want to end up like that.
I'd rather be less muscular and have all my hair.
Also there's the gyno and limpdick and all that. It's smart to worry about these things.
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Check this out. http://www.hishairclinic.com/gallery/
is that real?
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
lool ;D
what does the GOD of hormones think? best overall cycle to add 10-15 pounds of LBM
paulumbo recommend a deca/var cycle, others say test plus finasteride, others say there is no difference, its genetic (but why speed up 10 years of loss).
thoughts on this issue?
i dont worry about that ;D
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
fuck you bitch. i did not ask some queer named "will grant" so STFU!
if you don;t like the thread fuck off, no one wants your gay ass opinion, fucking assclown.
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I'm thinking the same thing.
I wanna try some gear. But going bald is fucked up.
My cousin did a lot of gear starting at age 18, and he was BALD as fuck by the time he was just 22 years old :o
I don't want to end up like that.
I'd rather be less muscular and have all my hair.
Also there's the gyno and limpdick and all that. It's smart to worry about these things.
He would have been bald anyway it just might have been 28-30 instead of 22. Unless you want to take drugs to prevent it and they have their own problems.
Even doing 3-4 cycles and then coming off will leave you far advanced muscle wise if you have trained clean for 3-4 years.
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I'm thinking the same thing.
I wanna try some gear. But going bald is fucked up.
My cousin did a lot of gear starting at age 18, and he was BALD as fuck by the time he was just 22 years old :o
I don't want to end up like that.
I'd rather be less muscular and have all my hair.
Also there's the gyno and limpdick and all that. It's smart to worry about these things.
me too, thats why i am getting the god of hormones opinion on this...
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just put on a baseball cap if you go bald lol... or get hair transplant if you got the money
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me too, thats why i am getting the god of hormones opinion on this...
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moderators, please keep this thread around. lets await GH15's response...
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test prop
tren ace
gh
eq that later on will change to masteron when 10% and under
gh15 approved
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fuck you bitch. i did not ask some queer named "will grant" so STFU!
if you don;t like the thread fuck off, no one wants your gay ass opinion, fucking assclown.
hahaha oh you are a little homo who wants to try steroids but are affraid of his hair awww haha phaggot.
Again - you have been asking this stupid fucking question for the past 6 years - are you stupid or something assmunch ? ::)
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;D
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test prop
tren ace
gh
eq that later on will change to masteron when 10% and under
gh15 approved
what are good doses on the prop? 100mg EOD?
how long of a duration? also, would u add finasteride to the mix?
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test prop
tren ace
gh
eq that later on will change to masteron when 10% and under
gh15 approved
If you run those worm you will go bald - get it ? if you are going to go bald you fucking will dickhead - now man the fuck up jab the shit in your ass or shut the fuck up ::)
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GH,
what about deca 400 x 8 weeks, and 10 weeks of prop 100 EOD?
curious as to why you do not have deca listed in the list...
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GH,
what about deca 400 x 8 weeks, and 10 weeks of prop 100 EOD?
curious as to why you do not have deca listed in the list...
thats the mistake that most do ,,they go on deca ,,they have too much bodyfat and water to begin with ,,they gain some muscle with water and some fat ,,they get bigger and fatter 20-30 lb and think they are bodybuild,,
you want lean lean tissue growing while losing bodyfat or maintainitn bodyfat ,,for that you need tren ace ,,gh ,,prop
prop 100 mg every day or every 2 days if water sensetive 100 mg every 2 days or 50 mg a day 5 days a week
trenbolona ace 100-200mg a day
gh 5-15 iu a day depending how big you want to get
equipona 600-1000 mg a week
masteron later on 200-300 mg a week
gh15 approved
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thanks GH15!
i can only get legit HG stuff... (no tren or EQ).
what about prop 100EOD and 50mg var for 8-10 weeks?
thoughts on adding 0.5mg finasteride to the cycle?
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
lolz. end thread now!
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bald dudes have created the Atomic bomb and also got laid every night of the week and someone is afraid of losing their hair on gear?
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I thought tren was deadly on the hairline ??
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stanazolol 100mg ED
Primobolan 800mg EW
Just those two and you will be fine.
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stanazolol 100mg ED
Primobolan 800mg EW
Just those two and you will be fine.
winstrol doesnt build muslce,,it hardens you up and stifen you up ,,if you dont have enough lean muscle and full good shaped muscle you will look like a stringy bean ,,you will look stiff and you will look any impessivness you had ,,also you will lose strength on all lifts due to joint problems,,winstrol probably the worst drug in bodybuilding ,,it is only good for final stage of prep when the pussy bodybuildr which are many around play around with 25 lb dumbells,,those can use winstrol but any serious bodybuild go other routes or add winstrol to something else that keep join lubed but even then winstrol NOT good choice for bodybuild who try to gain lean muscle and not preping final stage for show,,
primobolan ,,too many fakes ,,you oget deca marked as primobolan ,,you cant get real thing no one buys it ,,too much money and inaddition its not worth ti because trenbolona get you 100 times better 100 times more dense ,,100 times more lean ,,and 100 times bigger and harder
gh15 approved
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
:D
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winstrol doesnt build muslce,,it hardens you up and stifen you up ,,if you dont have enough lean muscle and full good shaped muscle you will look like a stringy bean ,,you will look stiff and you will look any impessivness you had ,,also you will lose strength on all lifts due to joint problems,,winstrol probably the worst drug in bodybuilding ,,it is only good for final stage of prep when the pussy bodybuildr which are many around play around with 25 lb dumbells,,those can use winstrol but any serious bodybuild go other routes or add winstrol to something else that keep join lubed but even then winstrol NOT good choice for bodybuild who try to gain lean muscle and not preping final stage for show,,
primobolan ,,too many fakes ,,you oget deca marked as primobolan ,,you cant get real thing no one buys it ,,too much money and inaddition its not worth ti because trenbolona get you 100 times better 100 times more dense ,,100 times more lean ,,and 100 times bigger and harder
gh15 approved
It was a joke, probably 2 of the more harsher compounds on the hairline. I stopped using stana awhile ago, even primo from turkey seems to be faked these days, just test labeled primo. Tren is the way to go nothing compares.
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thats the mistake that most do ,,they go on deca ,,they have too much bodyfat and water to begin with ,,they gain some muscle with water and some fat ,,they get bigger and fatter 20-30 lb and think they are bodybuild,,
you want lean lean tissue growing while losing bodyfat or maintainitn bodyfat ,,for that you need tren ace ,,gh ,,prop
prop 100 mg every day or every 2 days if water sensetive 100 mg every 2 days or 50 mg a day 5 days a week
trenbolona ace 100-200mg a day
gh 5-15 iu a day depending how big you want to get
equipona 600-1000 mg a week
masteron later on 200-300 mg a week
gh15 approved
why not change deca for NPP
wouldnt that workout ???
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thats the mistake that most do ,,they go on deca ,,they have too much bodyfat and water to begin with ,,they gain some muscle with water and some fat ,,they get bigger and fatter 20-30 lb and think they are bodybuild,,
you want lean lean tissue growing while losing bodyfat or maintainitn bodyfat ,,for that you need tren ace ,,gh ,,prop
prop 100 mg every day or every 2 days if water sensetive 100 mg every 2 days or 50 mg a day 5 days a week
trenbolona ace 100-200mg a day
gh 5-15 iu a day depending how big you want to get
equipona 600-1000 mg a week
masteron later on 200-300 mg a week
gh15 approved
Deca doesn't cause fat gain, too many calories cause fat gain. Plenty of guys use Deca on a contest cycle, usually a lower end dose but it's very common on a contest cycle and has been for decades. I'm not saying it's the best steroid to use on a contest or cutting cycle, I'm simply saying it won't cause fat gain just because you're using it. And the water thing, a good aromatase inhibitor and a diet that's not higher in carbs than it needs to be will prevent excess water or bloat.
BTW, why do you always say "Trenbolona" or Equipoina" and things like that? It makes no sense...it's "Trenbolone" or "Tren" there is no "Ona"...it just irritates me a little, lol!
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Deca doesn't cause fat gain, too many calories cause fat gain. Plenty of guys use Deca on a contest cycle, usually a lower end dose but it's very common on a contest cycle and has been for decades. I'm not saying it's the best steroid to use on a contest or cutting cycle, I'm simply saying it won't cause fat gain just because you're using it. And the water thing, a good aromatase inhibitor and a diet that's not higher in carbs than it needs to be will prevent excess water or bloat.
BTW, why do you always say "Trenbolona" or Equipoina" and things like that? It makes no sense...it's "Trenbolone" or "Tren" there is no "Ona"...it just irritates me a little, lol!
they use npp..but yes nandrolona is good too for competition if know how to use it ,,you got to understand when i talk to fellas aroudn bodybuild especialy the none competetive or the no interest in competing yet want to look like bodybuild which is majority of fellas around i try to get them the shortest way to get to bodybuilder physiqe with out changing much as in not changin much of diet,,yes clean it up some but really keeping life as simple as it was before bodybuild only with more protien and little cycle of carbs,,actually i get them to competitor level with high carbs too,,
i put them in bodybuild condition whiel eatin sushi eggwhites and vietnamease,, german and jamaican too
i give the best route to conditioned size,,and the best route is not deca,,deca indeed doesnt cause lots of fat gain but it cause lots of water,,ai is not recomended by me in any cycles unless higher level competitor and also ae not recomended by me unless wateer fountain even then i woudl be very careful with all that and use insted masteron,, proviron and or halo depending on how lean and ripped one is ,,
so deca wil make you gain water weight,,yes it will be within the muscle and outside the muscle ,,yes you wil be able to see your abs but it wil be blurrder and lines wont be detailed on the diet they want to be which is more free eating type of diet,,
true gh will help with that but many of them are poorer individuals with no money to invest in gh ,,
even with gh i still recomend diff approach to gettign lean and reminaing large as in conditioend muscle,,because gh in general causes water retention even if it drops later on it still there to some degree while on the gh ,,so even the gh need to be dropped for good 3+ weeks,,
now what i recomedn is
trenbolona ace
shorter ester testosterona but NOT suspension!
masterona
gh for limited time of 2-4 months then get off it to evluate progress,,
eq along the way and take it out moment you get to 8% while at the same time increasing trenblona doses and masterona doses ,,you can also do with out masterona but then you will have to really go higher on the trenbolona and be very careful with testosterona doses in any case you will have to have it at some point or find other alternative such as proviron or halo in the later stages in getting into conditioned size,,i recomend masteron rather than halo becaus halo will stiffen you up just little too much in the tendoins ,,it wont hurt to train since you will be super strong but! it wil give you the stiffen look with out the winstrol sides of tendoin tendernes and hurt,,
so there you have it ,, thats what i recomend
trenbolona testosterona masterona gh ...along the way equipona and or nandrolone but only when in the doubles unless you intend to eat very clean and have all your meals mesured and calculated which is not what majority of fellas who ask me for this advice want,,they want to know the secret for LOOKIN like bodybuilder with out a very strict cazlculated diet,,nandrolona will not let you get there the way they want ,,it wont,,
what i recomend here will put you 6-7% 200+ lb with eating like normal human being only more protien .... it will do it very effectivly and it will do it quite fast with out too many counter drugs and with out suffering of clean diet that need to be kept ONLY between 6 and 4% bodyfat
and lastly what i recomend is no cardio involved,,meaning there will be no cardio needed and you will walk around 6-7 % 200 lb or over,,and this is the most average fella around ,,genetic phenomenon may very well walk around 210-220 etc
no insulina what so ever ,,
gh15 approved
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God, would you use ephedrine, t3 and generally any fatburners with the cycles you recommend?
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GOD OF HORMONA, can you inject prop (farmak) or any ethyl oleate with a slin needle or no need too? (delts, tri's, bi's, chest, lats?)
and if you are against anti estrogens and ai's while on cycle than how would u recommened to use them if u really need them or how would u advise proviron use. with and without masteron...
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Check this out. http://www.hishairclinic.com/gallery/
Is that progress? Those guys need more photoshop
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To the original poster..
There are NO "hair friendly" cycles.
If its meant to lose your hair you WILL lose them, drugs just accelerate the process.
So if you will be bald at 28 or 38 who cares.
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To the original poster..
There are NO "hair friendly" cycles.
If its meant to lose your hair you WILL lose them, drugs just accelerate the process.
So if you will be bald at 28 or 38 who cares.
And we can always consult GB's king of toupets, bob chick
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110216185406.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110216185406.htm)
There is hope :D
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excellent post by GH!
thats why I asked it, douchbags. i ask on the steroid forum, and you just get dim-whitted responses like "you need test" without any explanations. gh actually knows his shit and explains it very well.
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excellent post by GH!
thats why I asked it, douchbags. i ask on the steroid forum, and you just get dim-whitted responses like "you need test" without any explanations. gh actually knows his shit and explains it very well.
Dickwad look at the cycle he told you to run - it had TEST in it along with tren and masteron - all three harsh on the hair line
"IF" you are prone to such issue - fuck you are stupid ::)
And of course he knows his shit - but ffs you have been asking this stupid question question for 6 years and still dont get it ? :-\
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Dickwad look at the cycle he told you to run - it had TEST in it along with tren and masteron - all three harsh on the hair line
"IF" you are prone to such issue - fuck you are stupid ::)
And of course he knows his shit - but ffs you have been asking this stupid question question for 6 years and still dont get it ? :-\
If you're going to lose your hair, it's just a matter of when. Deal with it.
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
LOL
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worm, i'll answer your question. if i see you post this same question ever again, you'll go on my shit list. not somewhere you want to be. ask alice 23 and groin.
if your going to use compounds like masteron and tren expect them to accelerate any existing predisposition for hair loss.
but you can use these combined compounds below to stop hair loss, and possibly re grow new hair.
1mg finesteride ed
1ml minoxidil 2x ed
nizoral 2% once a week.
head and shoulders hair endurance for men
there. you now have enough information to make an informed decision. if you keep asking this same question, your just a fucking retard.
good luck.
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if your going to use compounds like masteron and tren expect them to accelerate any existing predisposition for hair loss.
but you can use these combined compounds below to stop hair loss, and possibly re grow new hair.
1mg finesteride ed
1ml minoxidil 2x ed
nizoral 2% once a week.
head and shoulders hair endurance for men
there. you now have enough information to make an informed decision. if you keep asking this same question, your just a fucking retard.
good luck.
Most definitely.
Any androgen is going to be harsh. So you want to stay away from any of them if youre bothered about your wig (exception also being stanz which again is harsh) Tren made my hair fall out @ 30mg.
Dutasteride is much more effective than finasteride.
The 5AR drugs are only any good from blocking DHT (essentially test mainly).
So a hair friendly cycle would be test only and a 5AR.
Otherwise stick to your anabolics: deca, EQ, primo, anavar, NPP. Also perhaps dbol, tbol & stanz in low doses.
Youre either going to lose it or not.
I have stayed away from androgens for years and have kept my hair, important for me, so far (32). But I also do use dutasteride/GH as preventative measures etc.
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Check this out. http://www.hishairclinic.com/gallery/
Holy fuck - I'm in.
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worm, i'll answer your question. if i see you post this same question ever again, you'll go on my shit list. not somewhere you want to be. ask alice 23 and groin.
if your going to use compounds like masteron and tren expect them to accelerate any existing predisposition for hair loss.
but you can use these combined compounds below to stop hair loss, and possibly re grow new hair.
1mg finesteride ed
1ml minoxidil 2x ed
nizoral 2% once a week.
head and shoulders hair endurance for men
there. you now have enough information to make an informed decision. if you keep asking this same question, your just a fucking retard.
good luck.
Regrowth on finasteride is rare, something like 5% get decent regrowth.. on minoxidil your regrowth is mostly thin hairs
to me putting minox on your head everyday for the rest of your life just to have that little growth sounds like a shitty deal, rather be bald
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GOD OF HORMONA, can you inject prop (farmak) or any ethyl oleate with a slin needle or no need too? (delts, tri's, bi's, chest, lats?)
and if you are against anti estrogens and ai's while on cycle than how would u recommened to use them if u really need them or how would u advise proviron use. with and without masteron...
Bump for god to answer, im sure many others would like to know as well.
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Regrowth on finasteride is rare, something like 5% get decent regrowth.. on minoxidil your regrowth is mostly thin hairs
to me putting minox on your head everyday for the rest of your life just to have that little growth sounds like a shitty deal, rather be bald
its not up top you or me to tell him what to do.
supply him with the information he needs to make a educated decision and let him follow his own path.
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
Damn ;D
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You have been asking this same fucking question for the past 6 years - have you pinned yourself yet ? FFS in that time you should of worked it out already ::) You going to go bald you will its genetics - steroids speed it up , theres your answer now fuck off already ::)
"You going to go bald you will its genetics"...This
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thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).
thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.
question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?
also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH? what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?
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thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).
thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.
question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?
also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH? what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?
WTF YOU DUMB FUCK.
HAVE YOU EVEN READ ANY OF THESE POSTS?
i get it. your stupid. i apologise.
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thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).
thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.
question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?
also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH? what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?
Why the short cycles?
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calm down there sally.
the situation is this: light shedding off test E 500,,, so prop at a lower dose (300 a week) would i even need oral finasteride? i am using the topical version now along with minoxidil...
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Why the short cycles?
gain mass, minimize side effects...
gain 10-15 pounds, then train hard to keep the gains for almost 6-9 months.
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gain mass, minimize side effects...
gain 10-15 pounds, then train hard to keep the gains for almost 6-9 months.
::) ::) ::)
ahh ok.
ever thought about that the hormone rollercoaster may actually give you more sides than staying on for longer periods, especially when you dose rather low, like you do?
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::) ::) ::)
ahh ok.
ever thought about that the hormone rollercoaster may actually give you more sides than staying on for longer periods, especially when you dose rather low, like you do?
no. i do not agree. i think the longer you are on, the longer you will be shut down, harder to keep gains in the long term...
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no. i do not agree. i think the longer you are on, the longer you will be shut down, harder to keep gains in the long term...
LOL, you are already shut down after 10 weeks anyways, makes no difference if you stay on for another 6 weeks, but you will have more gains.
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LOL, you are already shut down after 10 weeks anyways, makes no difference if you stay on for another 6 weeks, but you will have more gains.
shut down is shut down... but if on for 8 weeks, shutdown may just be 2 months or so.
staying on a year, shutdown maybe 6-8 months.
i think the longer your on, the LONGER the shutdown.
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if you dont use tren, many say it is very easy to recover from a 8 week test prop cycle with mast for example or whatever u want except for tren and nandrolone. according to BLP recovery from PROP is Very easy esp. if HCG used on cycle. i plan on keeping all my cycles at 8 weeks until i get my hands on a 1000 iu's and get a little older ;D lol
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thanks guys...
will grant, i just did a cycle of test E 500 x 10 weeks, so i am not scared. just noticed a little thinning... just dont want to rush it too much (i know all about genetics).
thinking of test prop 100eod x 8 weeks, plus 50mg anavar for 8 weeks.
question, is it worth adding oral finasteride?
also, is it worth adding an 8 week course of GH? what would be the opitmal dosing regimen (less sides but decent gains)?
What's your goals? keep your hair? or getbig?
your whole situation is big WTF i mean every time you pin something you take a risk of losing your hair or getting bitch tits or w/e...
just man-up and do what you gotta do or don't do it all
300mg or 750mg it doesn't really matter.
you can try to avoid balding with meds for your hair ( the expensive ones), with keeping your BP low, quality food and keep yourself away from any kind of stress, the rest wont matter.
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no. i do not agree. i think the longer you are on, the longer you will be shut down, harder to keep gains in the long term...
The harshness of the cycle, both total dosage and duration will have an effect on how easily you regain your natural testosterone production, that much is true, however, it's not as cut and dry as you might think. A moderately low dosed cycle of Testosterone for a mere 8wks will shut you down harder than you might think. A lot of people are under the assumption that they can run a mild cycle, go through PCT and then their testosterone levels are back to normal, this simply isn't true. From one mild cycle even with a good PCT it will in most cases take nearly an entire year for your LH and Testosterone production to return to normal.
Keeping gains, your body does not want to change and in order for true change to take hold you have to create a new normal. For a new normal to be obtained your body has to become accustomed to a change for an extended period of time, otherwise it will return to its old normal state. This is why so many guys see their cycle gains vanish so easily; they run a short cycle and never allow their bodies to become accustomed to the change.
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preventing hair loss? the best cycle is no cycle.
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The harshness of the cycle, both total dosage and duration will have an effect on how easily you regain your natural testosterone production, that much is true, however, it's not as cut and dry as you might think. A moderately low dosed cycle of Testosterone for a mere 8wks will shut you down harder than you might think. A lot of people are under the assumption that they can run a mild cycle, go through PCT and then their testosterone levels are back to normal, this simply isn't true. From one mild cycle even with a good PCT it will in most cases take nearly an entire year for your LH and Testosterone production to return to normal.
Keeping gains, your body does not want to change and in order for true change to take hold you have to create a new normal. For a new normal to be obtained your body has to become accustomed to a change for an extended period of time, otherwise it will return to its old normal state. This is why so many guys see their cycle gains vanish so easily; they run a short cycle and never allow their bodies to become accustomed to the change.
yeah, but what if you have made a decent natural foundation yourself? and have gained alot of strength and size naturally prior. a guy doing an 8 week cycle after hes been lifting for 4 years naturally is not the same as a guy who lifts for 2 months than does an 8 week cycle.
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What's your goals? keep your hair? or getbig?
your whole situation is big WTF i mean every time you pin something you take a risk of losing your hair or getting bitch tits or w/e...
just man-up and do what you gotta do or don't do it all
300mg or 750mg it doesn't really matter.
you can try to avoid balding with meds for your hair ( the expensive ones), with keeping your BP low, quality food and keep yourself away from any kind of stress, the rest wont matter.
This is why I havn't got on gear yet.
I figure if I do it, I should do it all the way.
But i'm not ready to go in like that yet. I look too damn good right now.
When I start getting older, start naturally going bald, and my body starts to look like shit, then i'll gear up. Right now the Mona Lisa is looking pretty good though and it doesn't need anything more.
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yeah, but what if you have made a decent natural foundation yourself? and have gained alot of strength and size naturally prior. a guy doing an 8 week cycle after hes been lifting for 4 years naturally is not the same as a guy who lifts for 2 months than does an 8 week cycle.
The same principles apply regardless. The guy who built some muscle naturally first and has maintained it this is now his normal, his set point. When he decided to go past that set point, his normal, regardless of how he got to this new normal, to go beyond, chemically or not he has to hold it for an extended period of time or it doesn't become his new normal.
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WTF YOU DUMB FUCK.
HAVE YOU EVEN READ ANY OF THESE POSTS?
i get it. your stupid. i apologise.
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excellent responses guys.
what about adding 8 weeks of GH? worth it? best dosing?
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The same principles apply regardless. The guy who built some muscle naturally first and has maintained it this is now his normal, his set point. When he decided to go past that set point, his normal, regardless of how he got to this new normal, to go beyond, chemically or not he has to hold it for an extended period of time or it doesn't become his new normal.
okay i understand your theory but this is all just personal experience i suppose? going by your theory, How long would you be on to achieve this new normal set point so that when you're not on you will still maintain most of it? Im under the impression that you whether its months weeks or years that your on you will still go back to your normal foundation and even may get smaller if you do not eat enough... basically its also a known fact although many will disagree that even a one time steroid user has advantage over a natural in terms of muscle cells, and maturity even if they have been clean for years.
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excellent responses guys.
what about adding 8 weeks of GH? worth it? best dosing?
Goddamned moron....stop asking stupid questions here and go to the steriodboard and use the searchbutton...goddamn sumafabitch... >:(
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Goddamned moron....stop asking stupid questions here and go to the steriodboard and use the searchbutton...goddamn sumafabitch... >:(
X2, its fags likes him that do a sissy 8 week cycle of low doses and then shut themselves down spend all their money on PCT crap ::) then say steroids dont work because they dont look like Jay or Dex after 8 weeks ::)
Clomid and Nolvo and all that other crap is not good for you, what is the point of doing a 10 week cycle then taking all the PCT crap to then go back on another 10 week cycle ::) way to mess your body up ::)
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Goddamned moron....stop asking stupid questions here and go to the steriodboard and use the searchbutton...goddamn sumafabitch... >:(
internet tough guy alert! watch out!
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internet tough guy alert! watch out!
I hope you go bald soon bitch.... :D
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internet tough guy alert! watch out!
sissy ass bitch ::)
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sissy ass bitch ::)
now your being sassy! lol.
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okay i understand your theory but this is all just personal experience i suppose? going by your theory, How long would you be on to achieve this new normal set point so that when you're not on you will still maintain most of it? Im under the impression that you whether its months weeks or years that your on you will still go back to your normal foundation and even may get smaller if you do not eat enough... basically its also a known fact although many will disagree that even a one time steroid user has advantage over a natural in terms of muscle cells, and maturity even if they have been clean for years.
It's largely individualistic as no human being is the same but for all individuals the desired new set point will have to be held by whatever means necessary fare longer than not if it is to ever take hold. And of course you have to continue to eat well and train, otherwise your new normal will go in the opposite direction...it works both ways.
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so answer this for me , if you're 200lbs 12 percent natural, what will you be after 8 weeks of steroids while going down to 5 percent bf atleast maintaining weight possibly even gaining, what will your end result be when the hormones have cleared and your natural levels are returning.
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shut down is shut down... but if on for 8 weeks, shutdown may just be 2 months or so.
staying on a year, shutdown maybe 6-8 months.
i think the longer your on, the LONGER the shutdown.
where do you get this stuff? I've been on several times for a year + and never had a shutdown, ever. Only thing that happens is my loads get huge when off and I lose 15 lbs of water and some muscle.
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i get this stuff from experts such as william lewellyn over at MD. where do u get your info from? bro science?
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so answer this for me , if you're 200lbs 12 percent natural, what will you be after 8 weeks of steroids while going down to 5 percent bf atleast maintaining weight possibly even gaining, what will your end result be when the hormones have cleared and your natural levels are returning.
Varying factors will effect the final outcome, i.e. which steroids were used, nutrition after the cycle, etc. However, this individual from your example will more than likely return to his previous state before the cycle began, although the varying factors will largely determine how fast but he will return to his previous state.
The same individual could run a 16wk cycle, come off for approximately 8wks and run another 16wk cycle; assuming all other things are in order, nutrition and decent AAS response he will begin to create a new normal. However, this type of protocol will have to continue far past a couple cycle; obtaining a new set normal will take some time.
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i dont get it though, when you come off your hormones are going to be crashed how will you maintain any new level of normal if you're not ON....i get what ur saying but i still dont think its always the case. regardless my friend did about 6 cycles 2 or 3 shows and now only trains naturally but you would see him and know his body still doesnt have a natural look to it even though he is like 6'2 190. regarding him he claimed that i guess he was able to stay lean as fuck high to mid singles after going clean after doing cutting cycles?
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i dont get it though, when you come off your hormones are going to be crashed how will you maintain any new level of normal if you're not ON....i get what ur saying but i still dont think its always the case. regardless my friend did about 6 cycles 2 or 3 shows and now only trains naturally but you would see him and know his body still doesnt have a natural look to it even though he is like 6'2 190. regarding him he claimed that i guess he was able to stay lean as fuck high to mid singles after going clean after doing cutting cycles?
I'm not saying you will keep all the gains made even if you use for longer periods for extended years. Yes, you will lose some of the gains after you come off every single time but as time progresses your body becomes more accustomed to the gains, you have created a new normal. You will surpass this new normal every time you go back on but if you are doing things properly the bar of normal will be increased.
You're friend, as it sounds did just that.