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Title: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 18, 2011, 10:20:19 AM
Sometimes getbiggers bite off more than they can chew.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/bridgewater_teen_accused_in_ca.html#incart_mce


Douglas Uhler had plans to attend William Paterson University, where he hoped to earn a degree in sports medicine. He played football at Bridgewater-Raritan High School and dedicated himself to sports and weight training, his father said.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: MindSpin on April 18, 2011, 10:26:18 AM
He was breaking into the guy's car and the guy choked him out.  Maybe he shouldn't be fucking with people's property. 
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 18, 2011, 10:28:53 AM
It was a kid. And you shouldn't get the death penalty for breaking into a car.
The message is sad. RIP.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: SS on April 18, 2011, 10:30:19 AM
He was breaking into the guy's car and the guy choked him out.  Maybe he shouldn't be fucking with people's property. 
Little focker should of tapped!
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Disgusted on April 18, 2011, 10:32:45 AM
Sad but that's what can happen when you're a thief. If I was to be totally impartial about this, the guy who choked him out should not be charged unless he kept the choke hold on longer than was reasonable. It's pretty hard to choke someone out and keep it on long enough to cause death.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2011, 10:34:50 AM
good for him, should have left the fucking car alone in the first place

Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 18, 2011, 10:35:39 AM
The kid didn't attack the guy did he? So it's excessive in my opinion. It's only a car.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: che on April 18, 2011, 10:45:43 AM
Where was SUPERJONES  when they needed him  ???

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/thegarv/Photoshops/Superj.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Ursus on April 18, 2011, 10:47:32 AM
Poor guy.

But it should NEVER have happened. I also feel sorry for the man who choked him out.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 18, 2011, 10:56:27 AM
Hard to sympathize with the kid if he did indeed jump on the guy yelling "you want a piece of me guy?"

Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2011, 10:59:43 AM
The kid didn't attack the guy did he? So it's excessive in my opinion. It's only a car.

no fucking way, leave's people's things alone or deal with the consequences

I hate thiefs
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 18, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
I hate thiefs

So do I, but I hate killers too.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: MindSpin on April 18, 2011, 11:08:09 AM
It was a kid. And you shouldn't get the death penalty for breaking into a car.
The message is sad. RIP.

He was 19.  Old enough to go to war.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2011, 11:08:21 AM
Hard to sympathize with the kid if he did indeed jump on the guy yelling "you want a piece of me ####?"



haha

Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: MindSpin on April 18, 2011, 11:11:40 AM
The kid didn't attack the guy did he? So it's excessive in my opinion. It's only a car.

Only a car?  WTF are you talking about?  It was someone's private property that he worked hard for.  This little stool-pusher though he could take it away for free.  Not only would the guy lose his car, but then he would have to deal with the aftermath of insurance paper work, police reports, figuring out how to get around until the car is replaced, etc.  That's a lot of fucking hassle because some little quiff thinks it's a great idea to take something.

Death is not a suitable punishment, but it is the risk he took.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: che on April 18, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
Early stoppage .
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Tito24 on April 18, 2011, 11:40:29 AM
love's the only engine for survival
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Ron on April 18, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
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Prosecutors said that after Montalvo knocked out one of the suspects, later identified as Brian Johnston, Uhler ran out from nearby bushes and shouted: "You want a piece of me, (expletive)?!" Uhler jumped on Montalvo, who put him in a submission hold, Somerset County Prosecutor Geoffrey Soriano said. The move blocked the teen’s oxygen flow, causing a brain injury, Soriano said.

He ran out and attacked the owner of the car, intending to cause injury or even kill him.  If Montalvo wasn't strong enough, he would of been beaten or killed.  However, Montalvo defended himself against an attacker.  Self defense. Period. 

Can't argue that he tried too hard to defend himself.  Get real. 
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Archer77 on April 18, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
I've about run out of sympathy for stuff like this. The kid played his cards and lost.  Its as simple as that.  One more useless member of society is dead, and what do you know; the world keeps spinning. 
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 18, 2011, 11:59:19 AM
This is ridiculous, the home owner didn't kill this stupid kid, he died 8 MONTHS after the incident, he was still alive for those 8 months, maybe in that time he got some sort of  degenerative disorder and his body gave out, the guy who choked him out shouldn't be blamed, LOLz

Hope these stupid kids are learning a lesson from all this.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 18, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
He was an athlete and a hero, so we should still respect him even after what he did.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on April 18, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
He was an athlete and a hero, so we should still respect him even after what he did.

lol
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: el numero uno on April 18, 2011, 12:10:10 PM
Sad but that's what can happen when you're a thief. If I was to be totally impartial about this, the guy who choked him out should not be charged unless he kept the choke hold on longer than was reasonable. It's pretty hard to choke someone out and keep it on long enough to cause death.

'Nuff said!
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: local hero on April 18, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
The kid didn't attack the guy did he? So it's excessive in my opinion. It's only a car.

typical dutch..... serves him right, i realy hope the guy doesnt get any time for this
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Devon97 on April 18, 2011, 12:16:50 PM
haha the local GB libs are in meltdown mode over a thief getting the his just due! ;D
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 18, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
The kid didn't attack the guy did he? So it's excessive in my opinion. It's only a car.

Idiot, he not only attacked him but also had stolen his wallet and car keys, he could have just hid in the bushes
and said nothing, but he jumped out of the bushes and attacked the victim while taunting him verbally.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Board_SHERIF on April 18, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
19 male is still a very naive/stupid/childish person - mentally like a 16 year old.
we all did stupid stuff when young, he deserved a good beating but not to bloody well die over a car !
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: SgtSpar on April 18, 2011, 03:45:47 PM
Little focker should of tapped!

Quote from: che
Early stoppage .

This is why I missed this board :)
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on April 18, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
Car thieves here, 95% juveniles, use the cars as guided missiles aiming for both the police and pedestrians while joy riding. More than one pedestrian has been killed by these pieces of shit.

Kid should have been killed slower.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on April 18, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
haha the local GB libs are in meltdown mode over a thief getting the his just due! ;D
Why assume they are liberals?
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Quickerblade on April 18, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
I think it very fair.

Dont fuck with anyones property.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Straw Man on April 18, 2011, 04:40:21 PM
Sometimes getbiggers bite off more than they can chew.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/bridgewater_teen_accused_in_ca.html#incart_mce


Douglas Uhler had plans to attend William Paterson University, where he hoped to earn a degree in sports medicine. He played football at Bridgewater-Raritan High School and dedicated himself to sports and weight training, his father said.

It's not unfair

he could have run away but instead he attacked the guy (according to the story)
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 18, 2011, 09:36:05 PM
The fact that the story(I believe) mentions nothing about the thieves criminal records leads me to believe that the punks most likely do have one. And that the guy who wrote the story left out that fact so that public opinion wouldn't be favored one way or the other.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: DK II on April 18, 2011, 09:37:53 PM
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Master Blaster on April 18, 2011, 09:57:57 PM
He was an athlete and a hero, so we should still respect him even after what he did.

Man, if I didn't know you from years of Getbig, this would totally piss me off.   ;D
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Butterbean on April 19, 2011, 06:35:03 AM
It is truly a terrible tragedy but a fact of life is


Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2011, 06:45:44 AM
Prosecutors said that after Montalvo knocked out one of the suspects, later identified as Brian Johnston, Uhler ran out from nearby bushes and shouted: "You want a piece of me, (expletive)?!"

So.... a 19-year old football player hid in the bushes, while hi friend robber the car.

The owener came out - and this kid jumped outta bushes to attack the guy? 

And we're supposed to feel pity?  it's not like he was choked out on the way to Sunday School.  he was invovled in a property crime - hid out of sight - then attempted to kick the shit out of the person trying to protect their property?



Wow.  This should be the top news story all over the country.  Let bad guys know when you commit crimes - you might get an old lady as a victim, or you might get Chuck norris.

Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2011, 08:10:13 AM
he couldve gone into "sports medicine"
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 19, 2011, 08:11:49 AM
if your willing to fight bare knuckles you better be willing to die
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on April 19, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
if your willing to fight bare knuckles you better be willing to die

Exactly.

A blow to the head hard enough to KO someone can cause brain damage. Too often I hear of people getting knocked out and hitting their head during a fall, then it's lights out permanently.

Any fight is potentially to the death so it better be fought for a damn good reason. If you attack someone, you'd better be prepared to die.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: MindSpin on April 19, 2011, 10:29:33 AM
yes! fight to the death.  that's what I'm talking about. 
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 19, 2011, 10:43:33 AM
I guess i'm just a soft liberal Dutchguy.  :'( :'(
No winners in this case I think.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: ricorico on April 20, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
I think it very fair.

Dont fuck with anyones property.

me and my hatchet agree!
i catch someone in my home, they'll lose a hand.
let's see the fooker try to rob someone else with his stump!

Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 20, 2011, 11:59:17 AM
me and my hatchet agree!
i catch someone in my home, they'll lose a hand.
let's see the fooker try to rob someone else with his stump!



Fuck that shit, I got my tactical 12 gauge with 70mm slugs, good luck walking away from this home.

my gun will leave your ass by another house!
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger
Post by: Nordic Beast on April 20, 2011, 12:21:38 PM
He was 19.  Old enough to go to war.

Exactly, not a kid. Little rat deserved it
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Tito24 on April 20, 2011, 12:46:54 PM
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Swedish Viking on April 20, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
Really don't know where they are getting that the guy killed the kid.  It's one thing if he choked him out till he died, but given the fact that he didn't die on the spot it seems pretty clear that he just chocked him our until he passed out and maybe a little longer to be sure. 

I cannot, in good conscience, say that a man should be prosecuted for protecting himself against two other men and getting the better of them. 
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 20, 2011, 03:43:20 PM
but he couldve gone into "sports medicine"
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Matt C on April 20, 2011, 04:06:56 PM
He ran out and attacked the owner of the car, intending to cause injury or even kill him.  If Montalvo wasn't strong enough, he would of been beaten or killed.  However, Montalvo defended himself against an attacker.  Self defense. Period. 

Can't argue that he tried too hard to defend himself.  Get real. 

Thanks Ron - Great post!!

Sad to lose a member of getbig though.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Benny B on April 20, 2011, 07:49:20 PM
Chokes are risky business in street defense, because if the the person being choked dies...it's a good chance you're going to end up as a defendant in court.
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Firemuscle on April 20, 2011, 07:54:17 PM
 That's what you get for stealing a car.

 In most countries, if you steal a car, you KNOW your ass is on the line.

 In the USA people just do this kind of shit casually. "Wanna steal a car tonight?" "Sure, i'm not really doing anything else."

 I'm glad he's dead. Fuck him. Someone should shit on his corpse too because he rolled the dice and got snake eyes.

 Sounds like he wasn't poor or broke. Why was he doing it anyway? Just for fun?
Title: Re: RIP Young Getbigger - is this fair?
Post by: Quickerblade on April 21, 2011, 08:17:23 AM
That's what you get for stealing a car.

 In most countries, if you steal a car, you KNOW your ass is on the line.

 In the USA people just do this kind of shit casually. "Wanna steal a car tonight?" "Sure, i'm not really doing anything else."

 I'm glad he's dead. Fuck him. Someone should shit on his corpse too because he rolled the dice and got snake eyes.

 Sounds like he wasn't poor or broke. Why was he doing it anyway? Just for fun?

I have to agree, its time to draw the line, dont touch what's not yours and dont attack the guy that owns it either = death is fair. Touch but fair.