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Title: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 22, 2011, 03:44:45 PM
Let's face it - just like on many other issues - we are in the same boat with obama as we'd be with mccain.  In fact, President mccain would be training the al-quaida rebels and giving them a buttload of money and weapons.




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BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) -- U.S. Sen. John McCain called for increased military support for Libya's rebels Friday, including weapons, training and stepped-up airstrikes, in a full-throated endorsement of the opposition in its fight to oust Moammar Gadhafi.
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
I like McCain, but it makes no sense to back a group when it's unclear whether that group is friend or foe. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 22, 2011, 04:42:05 PM
I like McCain, but it makes no sense to back a group when it's unclear whether that group is friend or foe. 

I think it's pretty clear they're our enemies - many are al-quida.
just as kadaffi and his bunch are our enemies.

at this point - no matter what he says (and we can assume he may not announce his real strategy) - Maybe Obama just wants to help two groups of a-holes kill each other for a few years lol..............

I mean, you hear people talking about how we should just bomb the middle east to a parking lot.  maybe this is how it's done ;)

And I have to think - if Bush had managed to destabilize a dictator liike kadaffi while killing off a bunch of al-Q pricks without losing a single american life, we'd be throwing him a parade.
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 04:43:36 PM
I think it's pretty clear they're our enemies - many are al-quida.
just as kadaffi and his bunch are our enemies.

at this point - no matter what he says (and we can assume he may not announce his real strategy) - Maybe Obama just wants to help two groups of a-holes kill each other for a few years lol..............

I mean, you hear people talking about how we should just bomb the middle east to a parking lot.  maybe this is how it's done ;)

And I have to think - if Bush had managed to destabilize a dictator liike kadaffi while killing off a bunch of al-Q pricks without losing a single american life, we'd be throwing him a parade.

How do you know many are Al Qaeda?  I've heard they may be involved, but that it was unclear. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 22, 2011, 04:47:26 PM
How do you know many are Al Qaeda?  I've heard they may be involved, but that it was unclear.  

I heard on fox news that everyone who lives there is al-quida.






Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links ...telegraph.co.uk
Mar 25, 2011 ... Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the ...

Anti-American Extremists Among Libyan Rebels U.S. Has Vowed To ProtectMar 19, 2011 ... Where in the Hades is Huff Post getting this information that Al Qaeda is among the Libyan rebels? Are they getting this information ...




www.telegraph.co.uk/.../libya/.../Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 04:50:49 PM

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links ...telegraph.co.uk


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I think it's pretty clear they're our enemies - many are al-quida.


Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 22, 2011, 04:54:58 PM
???

How many 'flickers' of al-Q do you want to send money, weapons and training to?  My answer is zero.  When their commander admits the US Aid will be going to some Al-Q members, that's kinda a problem. 

Al Qaeda Confirms its Role with Libya Rebels | UNCOVERAGE.netApr 19, 2011 ... It was arguably obvious before the United States undertook “humanitarian” war in Libya that Al Qaeda was behind the Libyan rebels trying to ...
www.uncoverage.net/.../al-qaeda-confirms-its-role-with-libya-rebels/ - CachedIntelligence on Libya rebels shows flickers of Qaeda | ReutersWASHINGTON (Reuters) - Intelligence on the rebels battling Libya's Muammar Gaddafi has shown "flickers" of al Qaeda or Hezbollah presence, NATO's operations ...
www.reuters.com/.../us-libya-usa-intelligence-idUSTRE72S43P20110329 - CachedAmid Rebels, 'Flickers' of al Qaeda - WSJ.comU.S. intelligence agencies believe ragtag rebel forces fighting Col. Moammar Gadhafi in eastern Libya include some Islamists with possible ties to al Qaeda, ...




However, IMO, mccain and friends knew going in what this would be - a nice slow bloody stalemate in which a whole bunch of people kill each other and a terrorist is undermined.  He's not a "winner" - he killed americans.  Only people like trump will deal with him. 

So yeah, if it ends up being a 2 or 3 year stalemate, kadaffi is weakened, and a lot of al-Q die... is it a loss for us?   ???
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
How many 'flickers' of al-Q do you want to send money, weapons and training to?  My answer is zero.  When their commander admits the US Aid will be going to some Al-Q members, that's kinda a problem. 

Al Qaeda Confirms its Role with Libya Rebels | UNCOVERAGE.netApr 19, 2011 ... It was arguably obvious before the United States undertook “humanitarian” war in Libya that Al Qaeda was behind the Libyan rebels trying to ...
www.uncoverage.net/.../al-qaeda-confirms-its-role-with-libya-rebels/ - CachedIntelligence on Libya rebels shows flickers of Qaeda | ReutersWASHINGTON (Reuters) - Intelligence on the rebels battling Libya's Muammar Gaddafi has shown "flickers" of al Qaeda or Hezbollah presence, NATO's operations ...
www.reuters.com/.../us-libya-usa-intelligence-idUSTRE72S43P20110329 - CachedAmid Rebels, 'Flickers' of al Qaeda - WSJ.comU.S. intelligence agencies believe ragtag rebel forces fighting Col. Moammar Gadhafi in eastern Libya include some Islamists with possible ties to al Qaeda, ...




However, IMO, mccain and friends knew going in what this would be - a nice slow bloody stalemate in which a whole bunch of people kill each other and a terrorist is undermined.  He's not a "winner" - he killed americans.  Only people like trump will deal with him. 

So yeah, if it ends up being a 2 or 3 year stalemate, kadaffi is weakened, and a lot of al-Q die... is it a loss for us?   ???

I don't support any of my money being spent supporting Al Qaeda.  Was just asking for your source that "many" of the rebels are Al Qaeda.
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 22, 2011, 05:04:28 PM
Mccain showin signs of dementia. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 24, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
It's sad that a veteran like McCain has become so brainwashed and disillusioned by Washington DC culture. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 12:04:27 PM
Mccain showin signs of dementia. 

many people believed this leading up to the 2008 elections, and decided not to vote for him as a result.  You have to wonder about the judgment of a voting base which believed he was the best bet. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2011, 12:09:25 PM
A demented mccain was still better than your messiah.
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 01:11:10 PM
A demented mccain was still better than your messiah.

why do you suppose clueless republican primary voters chose puppet RINOs like Mccain or romney in 2008?
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2011, 01:17:10 PM
why do you suppose clueless republican primary voters chose puppet RINOs like Mccain or romney in 2008?

The GOP primary system sucks.   Indes voted in mclame. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 01:23:34 PM
The GOP primary system sucks.   Indes voted in mclame.  

Do you think independent voters show poor judgment?  




A (Gallup) study shows that only 35% of our independents now approve of the work our president is doing.

April 17, 2011

Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2011, 01:49:45 PM
Yes.  They were and still are mostly morons   
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 01:55:44 PM
Yes.  They were and still are mostly morons   

So they're wrong when they say obama is doing a poor job?

or is it possible that Independent voters are finally showing some better judgment, learning from mistakes of the past?
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
So they're wrong when they say obama is doing a poor job?

or is it possible that Independent voters are finally showing some better judgment, learning from mistakes of the past?

They are fickle. 
Title: Re: McCain calls Libyan rebels "heroes"
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
They are fickle.  

hard to criticize them for hating on palin, but praise them for hating on obama.  They're either wisening up, or they're not.


In the totally improbable yet amusing match-up, Palin takes only 36 percent of independents to the troubled actor’s 41 percent, according to a Public Policy Polling survey out Thursday.

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