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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bber on April 27, 2011, 06:22:12 PM
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Do you still think that arnold would have won with the judges of the time?
this is not about who you think has a better physique..
i personally think people would think WTF at a modern mass monster physique
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i think people would be amazed at a time traveler too much to worry about a bodybuilding contest
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The thong would be sparklier...I know that much.
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I always wondered that too. It wouldnt be pretty.
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This is a good question. Jay's 2010 size would be inconceivable in 1975. The judges wouldn't even know what they would be looking at. I could see this going two ways: the judges would do like they did to Dorian in 1993 and award him the win without him even having to step onstage or they could give it to Arnold based on the fact that Jay would look too inhuman and grotesque and not really like the ideal of what a bodybuilder should look like. I really think they would give it to Arnold simply because Arnold was the standard and Jay would be too out of anything they had seen to that day to evaluate properlyy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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This is a good question. Jay's 2010 size would be inconceivable in 1975. The judges wouldn't even know what they would be looking at. I could see this going two ways: the judges would do like they did to Dorian in 1993 and award him the win without him even having to step onstage or they could give it to Arnold based on the fact that Jay would look too inhuman and grotesque and not really like the ideal of what a bodybuilder should look like. I really think they would give it to Arnold simply because Arnold was the standard and Jay would be too out of anything they had seen to that day to evaluate properlyy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
They would wonder if he took drugs.
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They would start to worship Jay as their god 8)
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im sorry, as much as im not a cutler fan, he'd crush everyone one there for size and condition... his shape isnt that bad either
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imagine ruhl or ronnie got in that time-machine!
kai would probably be shot dead as an abomination.
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He`d look like a fatass by comparison.
End of thread!!
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nope,,,, not astho any of them back then were totaly shredded
as much as i love arnie, no way in hell could he touch cutler on stage
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no offence, but this is a real stupid question, however you bring him back to a 93 olympia then maybe you have a a case. With the exception of Coleman in 93 bodybuilding hit an equilibrium IMO
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no offence, but this is a real stupid question, however you bring him back to a 93 olympia then maybe you have a a case. With the exception of Coleman in 93 bodybuilding hit an equilibrium IMO
I agree, 93 was a pivotal year.
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nope,,,, not astho any of them back then were totaly shredded
as much as i love arnie, no way in hell could he touch cutler on stage
Are you nuts? What is bodybuilding even about for you?? ???
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Do you still think that arnold would have won with the judges of the time?
this is not about who you think has a better physique..
i personally think people would think WTF at a modern mass monster physique
Weider would have disqualified him for being overweight as he did with Serge Nubret. Even so, Cutler wouldn't have even placed due to his physique not being pleasing to the eye as was the competitors of the day. Certainly would have dwarfed them, that's for sure
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He would have been shot immediately.
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Joe Weider would offer him double for posing sessions...
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i think people would be amazed at a time traveler too much to worry about a bodybuilding contest
LOL!
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Are you nuts? What is bodybuilding even about for you?? ???
honestly,,, how could arnie beat cutler
i love arnie, everyone does, but its not like he was the most complete,,,, shite legs, weak back,,wide waist from the front..
what he did have is great chest and arms, and amazing presence ..
culter is totaly complete, carries tons of size and is better conditioned than arnie ever was.. if youve actually attended any shows youd know that arnie would look absolutly tiny and out his depth in comparison.
what your doing is totaly overlooking this and just going for your preference of physique, theres only a handfull of bodybuilders who could possibly beat cutler and no one before the 90's is in that list
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He would beat him becasue he looks a lot better.
Aren't you the drug addict with the shit structure, no wonder you are hanging from Jay's balls.
Cutler couldn't have competed in the seventies, he doesn't have the genetics.
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He would beat him becasue he looks a lot better.
Aren't you the drug addict with the shit structure, no wonder you are hanging from Jay's balls.
Cutler couldn't have competed in the seventies, he doesn't have the genetics.
im not a drug addict, my structure is ok, was one pic taken on holiday which was ripped apart by a bunch of much smaller insecure people.... nowt wrong with my waist here...
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or here...
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We need A virtual posedown between Arnold,Jay,Serge and Lou...
Or it hasnt been imagined.
WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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He didn't so get over it.
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or here...
No offense dude you have HORRIBLE genetics for bodybuilding, horrible
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He would have been shot immediately.
(BY Marty Ferrigno)
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I think that of all Mr.O champs, Jay and Dorian are the extreme opposite of Arnold.....
Something to see Jay in Pretoria 1975' trying to flex his muscles and look "better" than someone taller and about 70 pounds lighter ...
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery11/ar293.jpg)
Can you pic our champ Jay posing like this? I can't :(
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No offense dude you have HORRIBLE genetics for bodybuilding, horrible
i suppose your incredible your self, theres loads of shit talkers on here, but until you actualy diet down to low digits and step on stage you dont even know where you stand, no good looking at your self in a half lit kitchen after youve trained and convincing your self your class
i never said i was anything special, my torso is too long, short legs which need more sweep etc etc im never going to be a pro, but i can compete at 225 ripped at 6'1 and walk around 260 in ok condition as well as working 6/7 days a week in a ship yard
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i suppose your incredible your self, theres loads of shit talkers on here, but until you actualy diet down to low digits and step on stage you dont even know where you stand, no good looking at your self in a half lit kitchen after youve trained and convincing your self your class
i never said i was anything special, my torso is too long, short legs which need more sweep etc etc im never going to be a pro, but i can compete at 225 ripped at 6'1 and walk around 260 in ok condition as well as working 6/7 days a week in a ship yard
You don't have horrible genetics, your waist isn't wide, you can get ripped. Yes your legs are weaker than your upper body, but they are ok.
Ur exactly right, until someone diets all the way down they have no idea how their physique will change. We are on a board where people knock Heath, Kai and Jay, if they are at the top what does that make everyone else ::)
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You don't have horrible genetics, your waist isn't wide, you can get ripped. Yes your legs are weaker than your upper body, but they are ok.
Ur exactly right, until someone diets all the way down they have no idea how their physique will change. We are on a board where people knock Heath, Kai and Jay, if they are at the top what does that make everyone else ::)
Bingo.
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2010 Jay is to 1975 Arnold as 2010 Atwood/Bautista is to 2010 Jay.
In other words, a 2010 Jay wouldn't even place at the 1975 Olympia.
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it might go down like that whole scene ( hell wasn't the whole movie about this) in pumping iron 2: the women, where bev francis showed up and no one from the beauty pageant like ripped contestants and the queen at that time rachel mclish and the fans and the most important people, the judges had NO IDEA WHAT TO MAKE OF HER (FRANCIS THAT IS)
too muscular, too manly, not feminine enough, but a bodybuilding show is supposed to be about bodybuilding and muscles and mass right, not beauty? but they are women, not men, so how much is too much, how little is too little and so on.
francis placed low because of this argument that no one at the time could answer.
might be similar for a 2010/2011 jay showing up at a 1975 event? during that era mass was just getting to be the most important and arnold was the example, but symetry and lines and what not were still the most important or least at the top of the judging criteria?
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Arnol would have still won .... you people are clueless to give Jay a chance
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Arnol would have still won .... you people are clueless to give Jay a chance
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i suppose your incredible your self, theres loads of shit talkers on here, but until you actualy diet down to low digits and step on stage you dont even know where you stand, no good looking at your self in a half lit kitchen after youve trained and convincing your self your class
i never said i was anything special, my torso is too long, short legs which need more sweep etc etc im never going to be a pro, but i can compete at 225 ripped at 6'1 and walk around 260 in ok condition as well as working 6/7 days a week in a ship yard
You look great. I canīt believe some of the comments. Great shape.. very classic.
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local hero:
you = a cool dude
but you have nothing in common with bb
ZERO
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This is a good question. Jay's 2010 size would be inconceivable in 1975. The judges wouldn't even know what they would be looking at. I could see this going two ways: the judges would do like they did to Dorian in 1993 and award him the win without him even having to step onstage or they could give it to Arnold based on the fact that Jay would look too inhuman and grotesque and not really like the ideal of what a bodybuilder should look like. I really think they would give it to Arnold simply because Arnold was the standard and Jay would be too out of anything they had seen to that day to evaluate properlyy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I agree with this..very well thought-out
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1st Arnold
2nd Serge
3rd Lou
4th Jay
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how about 99 ronnie instead.
then I think the outcome is more clear.
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What if Kovacs showed up?
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They would probably have called an ambulance to take Jay to the ER thinking that he had a massive Steroid OD.
WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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best chest ever
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best chest ever
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(http://reptilis.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/bodybuilder_bodytypes.jpg)
(http://fullspike.com/bodybuilding/bodybuilders/_images/arnold-schwarzenegger-vs-ronnie-coleman-vs-jay-cutler-comparison_green_1289x900.png)
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Jay only looks good it pictures and perfectly posed photographs, in person he looks like a blown up freak missing proper structure to even be a bodybuilder. Arnold looked awesome even just wearing a t shirt or walking on the beach. He could look huge in all the right poses, and look lean and pleasing to the eye in all the others all while still having a small waist and 22" arms. Arnold takes this eazzzy.
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The Oak, with ease.
Jaw Cutler and Ronnie Coleslaw are turds in comparison to Arnold, Zane, Reeves, Park, Paris, Benfatto, et al. The only thing shit like those two attract is flies and the flies in their case are human: Schmomosexuals. Homos in heat. El Faggitos. Smokers of the wang. Turd burglars. Rump Rangers. Butt Pirates. Tummy Stick duelists. Fuck that noise.
Who the fuck in their right mind would ever want to look like a fatass, fat gut, bag of shit? Bodybuilding as it is being presented today is for the fags and fags alone. I know of no real man that finds a woman with gigantic fake breasts (e.g., 50 DDDD) to be attractive and yet schmoes regularly whip their lizard to the likes of Jaw and Coleslaw. Fuck that noise.
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He would be booed off stage.
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they gays woulda loved it
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best chest ever
Yes if you want hanging breasts that are over developed.
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;D
ND, I thought having arms proportionally slightly larger than your delts was a massive bodybuilding faux pas?
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arnold could do pull ups
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Arnold has an IQ higher than his age.
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they gays woulda loved it
I agree with this...the gays would have loved Jay's blond mane...Jay could have made a great living just on the G4P circuit
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Arnold would not win anything today because the Judges who helped him are long gone and now there are lots of guys who have better physiques. He was always over rated by all the Weider Gang.. a product from Uncle "Joe" to make money... still there there are still a few Arnold Ass lickers around.
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good comparison shots pulled,jay outweighs him but overall does he out mass him everywhere no,quads yes ,chest arnold was king,most muscular crunched is not jays best arnold it was .jay is a product of todays scene,arnold was the scene.
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Arnold would not win anything today because the Judges who helped him are long gone and now there are lots of guys who have better physiques. He was always over rated by all the Weider Gang.. a product from Uncle "Joe" to make money... still there there are still a few Arnold Ass lickers around.
I totally agree with that.
You seem like a man you can read between the lines on things.
Cheers to that.
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Arnold would not win anything today because the Judges who helped him are long gone and now there are lots of guys who have better physiques. He was always over rated by all the Weider Gang.. a product from Uncle "Joe" to make money... still there there are still a few Arnold Ass lickers around.
This statement is absurd....Arnold had the personality that no other bodybuilder has ever had or has had since..he would have won today easily...schmoozing the judges and berating his opponents..his physique still holds up very well today and his chest and abs are still unparalleled.... the bodybuilders of today have NO personality at all...which is why bodybuilding remains a cult at best...Arnold would be all over TV especially with all the channels today..he would be an even bigger star than he was then....
he would be appearing on the Tonight show....David Letterman....he would have his own reality show.....Yes people back then licked Arnold's ass but better to do that than to cross him....your ass would have been blackballed
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This statement is absurd....Arnold had the personality that no other bodybuilder has ever had or has had since..he would have won today easily...schmoozing the judges and berating his opponents..his physique still holds up very well today and his chest and abs are still unparalleled.... the bodybuilders of today have NO personality at all...which is why bodybuilding remains a cult at best...Arnold would be all over TV especially with all the channels today..he would be an even bigger star than he was then....
he would be appearing on the Tonight show....David Letterman....he would have his own reality show.....Yes people back then licked Arnold's ass but better to do that than to cross him....your ass would have been blackballed
Go and wank over your Arnold pictures. Arnold only won so much because he sucked Weider's Dick. He was and is an over rated wanna be Americana. His chest was Bulbous and Hanging, He only got into Politics because of connections..and we all know how much he screwed it up. Bodybuilders even in Arnold "the fucking Oaks" time should have beaten him ...Frank Zane, Sergio. As an actor too he is a joke and his English is crap. Get over Arnold and move on! I just hope that the man just Fades away and buys a Ranch somewhere remote.. >:(
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Go and wank over your Arnold pictures. Arnold only won so much because he sucked Weider's Dick. He was and is an over rated wanna be Americana. His chest was Bulbous and Hanging, He only got into Politics because of connections..and we all know how much he screwed it up. Bodybuilders even in Arnold "the fucking Oaks" time should have beaten him ...Frank Zane, Sergio. As an actor too he is a joke and his English is crap. Get over Arnold and move on! I just hope that the man just Fades away and buys a Ranch somewhere remote.. >:(
well first of all..I am not an Arnold wanker...I don't particularly like him.....but I have to be objective and acknowledge that his physique is still better than almost anyone today...and yes he did have help from weider...but who doesn't have help.....and the fact that Arnold has risen so far in his career shows you he has above average intelligence and perseverence.....to say that Zane and Sergio should have beat him is subjective.,..and they DID in fact beat him once each.....They didn't have his looks.....desire....pers onality...etc
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What looks?, what personality?, what desire? His Books are a load of shit too. ARNOLD MANIA.. ::)
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What looks?, what personality?, what desire? His Books are a load of shit too. ARNOLD MANIA.. ::)
I think your opinion is in the minority.....he doesn't look like much now but back in the 70's he was hot shit with the ladies....and men
as for personality..you can't be serious...I guess you are the only one who didn't see "Pumping Iron"
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I think your opinion is in the minority.....he doesn't look like much now but back in the 70's he was hot shit with the ladies....and men
yeh.. nice for Fags like you.
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yeh.. nice for Fags like you.
okay..now I'm a fag for causing you to meltdown and proving you wrong....the vast majority of guys on getbig who know bodybuilding will agree with me.....
admit you're wrong an move on..melting down like this makes you look really bad and childish
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Itīs ok if your a Fag, we wonīt treat you badly.. :-*
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Arnold deserved to win every contest he placed first in, even the 80 O and the close calls with sergio. Every one.
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Arnold deserved to win every contest he placed first in, even the 80 O and the close calls with sergio. Every one.
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Arnold deserved to win every contest he placed first in, even the 80 O and the close calls with sergio. Every one.
BOLLOCKS
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What is dan lurie doing posting here? ???
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Arnold deserved to win every contest he placed first in, even the 80 O and the close calls with sergio. Every one.
Thank YOU!!!!!!!! :D
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What is dan lurie doing posting here? ???
I bet you look like Mr Bean
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I bet you look like Mr Bean
::)
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Didn't Bev Francis do this very thing when she stepped into CChaplins time machine and competed? How did it work out for her?