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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Wiggs on May 01, 2011, 09:08:28 PM
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I have to say that unless the economy absolutely collapses... No.
He will get re-elected... any decent Republican should just wait for their next chance in 2016.
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Let's be realistic, you think any Americans will care about Bin Laden a month from now when gas is $5/gal?
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Other than this, do you actually think he could win on his record and failed policies? Seriously, think about this, I know you're a liberal and its hard to think with any commonsense, but really try.
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Let's be realistic, you think any Americans will care about Bin Laden a month from now when gas is $5/gal?
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Correct, nothing is perfect but this is very good psychologically especially with Sep. 11 being so close to election day Nov. 4....
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To put it lightly, I'm not an Obama supporter.
But he WILL get re-elected again. He's going to get the black vote again, latino vote, the young liberal 20 somethings will vote for him again.
I hope the Republicans are kidding when they mention Trump as a potential candidate. Does he have ANY political experience? Trump is almost as liberal as Obama is!
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I hope so. If your main considerations for his being our president are that he's black and liberal , just remember one drop was enough for the olde tyme Democrats, and it was Republicans that freed the slaves and Democrats that put people back into slavery via welfare, then fuck that noise. He is still a liberal and I could give a rats ass what color he is and so neither should any real American.
I am Conservative and Republican. The two don't always go hand in hand, but with me they do. Unless Mr. Obama has an epiphany the likes of which hasn't been witnessed since the conversion on Saul becoming Paul, then I hope he is voted out of office.
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This will help Obama get re-elected but it doesn't excuse him for his crimes against the American taxpayer. If the Republicans had any brains or any balls he would be on his way out, but they dont. 4 more years or hemorrhaging money. Boo.
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obama 4 trillion debt and mega unemployment
of course obama gone
prsident trump baby!!
Search your heart, you know not to be true...Don't think about how you'd like it be think of it as it is and the behavior of Americans cause trust, me if you thought we made him a messiah before, you're going to want to not turn on your tv.
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I hope so. If your main considerations for his being our president are that he's black and liberal , just remember one drop was enough for the olde tyme Democrats, and it was Republicans that freed the slaves and Democrats that put people back into slavery via welfare, then fuck that noise. He is still a liberal and I could give a rats ass what color he is and so neither should any real American.
I am Conservative and Republican. The two don't always go hand in hand, but with me they do. Unless Mr. Obama has an epiphany the likes of which hasn't been witnessed since the conversion on Saul becoming Paul, then I hope he is voted out of office.
exactly! there is nothing to do with the color,but what he did, is doing and will do.
I am not going to vote him.
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Yes. He is still a one term President. Thanks for Playing. This will spike his approval ratings but with gas prices at $5.00, unemployment at 9% and everything else, will be his undoing. Sorry.
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Yes. He is still a one term President. Thanks for Playing. This will spike his approval ratings but with gas prices at $5.00, unemployment at 9% and everything else, will be his undoing. Sorry.
If you were smart enough you'd know that there will be a psychological effect and Obama will be God like status again and this will stimulate the economy and gas prices will be lowered....All Hail President Obama!!!!!!!! The man and president will lead us all to glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you were smart enough you'd know that there will be a psychological effect and Obama will be God like status again and this will stimulate the economy and gas prices will be lowered....All Hail President Obama!!!!!!!! The man and president will lead us all to glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really thought you were smarter than this... Apparently you are not.
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a sad day for fox news.
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I really thought you were smarter than this... Apparently you are not.
We will never agree.
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Obama didn't kill Bin Laden. A sniper did. Obama is a wimp with butter soft hands who nervously listened as he was briefed by the military.
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We will never agree.
Not when it has anything to do with Politics.
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Isn't 'wigs' a daily pot smoker?
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If you were smart enough you'd know that there will be a psychological effect and Obama will be God like status again and this will stimulate the economy and gas prices will be lowered....All Hail President Obama!!!!!!!! The man and president will lead us all to glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With regard to intellect, I suggest you don't go there young fella... ;) With regard to our current president, you have got to be kidding. I will choose pride in American any day over black pride and that is what you are pretending to be about in these innocuous (to people that are genuinely colorblind) diatribes of yours. Surely you jest?
And yes, I'm calling you surely. ;D
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Isn't 'wigs' a daily pot smoker?
Are you questioning my intellect and reasoning ability because of my cannabis use? You're not serious are you?
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Serious as th elung cancer you're busily priming your lungs for.
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You were more rational when you were not smoking weed....and drinking beer.
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Obama didn't kill Bin Laden. A sniper did. Obama is a wimp with butter soft hands who nervously listened as he was briefed by the military.
fact: obama accomplished the number one thing that bush wanted to do during his presidency hahahahahahahahahaha
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fact: obama accomplished the number one thing that bush wanted to do during his presidency hahahahahahahahahaha
booooooooom! I expected this from all you stone age conservatives....like flies to sh it!!!!!
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fact: obama accomplished the number one thing that bush wanted to do during his presidency hahahahahahahahahaha
Actually Bush wanted Saddam Hussein more and got him... The fight is against the Taliban and Al-Qaida and if Osama was taken out then so be it.
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fact: obama accomplished the number one thing that bush wanted to do during his presidency hahahahahahahahahaha
Fact: Anyone with even a modicum (i.e., "a little bit of") of intelligence realizes that this process has been an ongoing one, spanning two presidencies and was brought to fruition (again, for those of you in Rio Linda, CA that means "completion" or "it be done") by our Military and Intel. The President merely signs off on it.
If, and I do mean "if", any of us here really think the President is the "hero" for this having ben finally accomplished, then they are genuinely and most importantly, ignorant. Or should I have spelled it more phonetically as it is sometimes pronounced in circles of stupidity, i.e., "ignant"?
FTN that is liberalism.
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Fact: Anyone with even a modicum (i.e., "a little bit of") of intelligence realizes that this process has been an ongoing one, spanning two presidencies and was brought to fruition (again, for those of you in Rio Linda, CA that means "completion" or "it be done") by our Military and Intel. The President merely signs off on it.
If, and I do mean "if", any of us here really think the President is the "hero" for this having ben finally accomplished, then they are genuinely and most importantly, ignorant. Or should I have spelled it more phonetically as it is sometimes pronounced in circles of stupidity, i.e., "ignant"?
FTN that is liberalism.
And Wiggs knows this, he is former military....people like you have fallen into his hands...
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And Wiggs knows this, he is former military....people like you have fallen into his hands...
Not hardly. He has no grasp upon neither my thoughts nor my person. "Former" means little to me when it is combined with a pusillanimous attitude towards our nation. I seriously doubt he is that childish and is merely playing this up for a laugh or two. But that doesn't mean I will not express my true thoughts on such a topic.
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Fact: Anyone with even a modicum (i.e., "a little bit of") of intelligence realizes that this process has been an ongoing one, spanning two presidencies and was brought to fruition (again, for those of you in Rio Linda, CA that means "completion" or "it be done") by our Military and Intel. The President merely signs off on it.
If, and I do mean "if", any of us here really think the President is the "hero" for this having ben finally accomplished, then they are genuinely and most importantly, ignorant. Or should I have spelled it more phonetically as it is sometimes pronounced in circles of stupidity, i.e., "ignant"?
FTN that is liberalism.
of course the president of the united states doesn't personally go out and get the evil doer. ::)
but announcing the death of osama bin laden is of huuuge symbolic importance, and in extremely partisan american politics you can bet that it's a sad day for fox news that bush-cheney or mccain-palin weren't/aren't in office to make the announcement.
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This will help Obama get re-elected but it doesn't excuse him for his crimes against the American taxpayer. If the Republicans had any brains or any balls he would be on his way out, but they dont. 4 more years or hemorrhaging money. Boo.
What crimes against the American tax payer? He extended tax cuts for the rich a move he regretted and will not do again. Rich need to be taxed big time 2x what they get taxed now. Unemployment isn't that big of a problem because people can stay on unemployment and receive benefits for almost 2 years, so people are satisfied. Obama 2012!
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They started tracking the courier that led them to the compound 4 years ago and finally managed to follow him to the compound in August. Took them two years just to get his nickname and real name. ::)
People politicizing this are pretty sad.
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I am very excited for more social programs, we need more money from the rich people living in mansions so the poor can move up to the middle class.
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of course the president of the united states doesn't personally go out and get the evil doer. ::)
but announcing the death of osama bin laden is of huuuge symbolic importance, and in extremely partisan american politics you can bet that it's a sad day for fox news that bush-cheney or mccain-palin weren't/aren't in office to make the announcement.
Gee, thanks for the rolling eyes. ;D Any real American, one that cares primarily for our nation, cares only that an enemy of hers is now dead and doesn't give a shit who is "in power" when it happened. But you already knew that, didn't you? ;D I would be just as a happy if it were a Republican. By your words quoted above regarding Fox and certain Republican politicians it would appear that we may differ on this. Or not. ;D Let us set aside any differences and celebrate the death of a worthless pile of shit.
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Wheres my free money printer ho?
Obama should take 5,000 dollars one time tax from the rich and redistribute it to each poor family in USA about 90 percent of USA that isn't rich.
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yea give it all to BDB instead.
no, I mean 5,000 dollars for each poor person, people who earn under 40,000 dollars a year, if you make 200,000 dollars a year, take 5,000 of that from that person and give it to the person who makes less than 40,000 dollars a year, no matter if they have a job or not, Obama will get re elected no problem.
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Gee, thanks for the rolling eyes. ;D Any real American, one that cares primarily for our nation, cares only that an enemy of hers is now dead and doesn't give a shit who is "in power" when it happened. But you already knew that, didn't you? ;D I would be just as a happy if it were a Republican. By your words quoted above regarding Fox and certain Republican politicians it would appear that we may differ on this. Or not. ;D Let us set aside any differences and celebrate the death of a worthless pile of shit.
Hey, as a Canadian, i'm just having fun with the Democrat vs. Republican thing. I share your happiness that Bin Laden is dead.
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president barak huseein obama will be elected second term as united states president,,
congratulations, ,
job well done,,
great president,,
2 terms,,
again congratulations
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people with half a brain know that the intelligence community and the armed forces brought down bin laden.. not obama.. he will be judged on the economy and his failed policies.. not for the armed forces taking out bin laden.. what obama now needs to figure out is why the paki's (our friends ::) ) "didnt know" that he had a compound built and armed in a military base town.. so much for the "joint effort" with our friends..
obama already admitted publically that he has nothing to do with gas prices and can not influence them.. so if they do come down it will not be because of him.. he will be easy to beat if the republicans play the right guy.. if obama wins again it will not be because of his policies and his ratings that for sure.. it will be because the repubs have a weak field right ..
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president barak huseein obama will be elected second term as united states president,,
congratulations, ,
job well done,,
great president,,
2 terms,,
again congratulations
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Did you see that? That was my admiration for you flying out the window... ;) Later, kiddo. ;D
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people with half a brain know that the intelligence community and the armed forces brought down bin laden.. not obama.. he will be judged on the economy and his failed policies.. not for the armed forces taking out bin laden.. what obama now needs to figure out is why the paki's (our friends ::) ) "didnt know" that he had a compound built and armed in a military base town.. so much for the "joint effort" with our friends..
obama already admitted publically that he has nothing to do with gas prices and can not influence them.. so if they do come down it will not be because of him.. he will be easy to beat if the republicans play the right guy.. if obama wins again it will not be because of his policies and his ratings that for sure.. it will be because the repubs have a weak field right ..
not many people in us with half a brain thats the problem
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the sad truth of this is that their attacks will be stepped up.. if they happen, god forbid, to get one in on american soil obama can kiss it all good bye.. all will be on high alert for a while..
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Did you see that? That was my admiration for you flying out the window... ;) Later, kiddo. ;D
you must be rich folk?
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Did you see that? That was my admiration for you flying out the window... ;) Later, kiddo. ;D
relax,,
a president is mesured by what he achieve,,every president has a list for its time,,1 to 10...obama failed everything but he achieved number 1 on the list ,, that = second term ,,
no matter how you hate the fella,,no matter how not qualified he was,,THIS! made him qualified,,
this is not matter of discussion ,,gas prices can be 6 dolaros it wont matter,,
obama finished osama...end!
for that kind of a win ,,which is always followed closely and approve by president since they ask him if he want him dead or alive,,he chose dead ,,for that he will get second term and most likley get in history ofo usa as good president
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I am very excited for more social programs, we need more money from the rich people living in mansions so the poor can move up to the middle class.
Reading shit like this pisses me off! Why?? Cause you and these other fucktards think they are "entitled," to something??
Pieces of shits like you should be shot by a firing squad! I hate people who think with this "entitlement," attitude!
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Reading shit like this pisses me off! Why?? Cause you and these other fucktards think they are "entitled," to something??
Pieces of shits like you should be shot by a firing squad! I hate people who think with this "entitlement," attitude!
lol, you must be rich folk.
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relax,,
a president is mesured by what he achieve,,every president has a list for its time,,1 to 10...obama failed everything but he achieved number 1 on the list ,, that = second term ,,
no matter how you hate the fella,,no matter how not qualified he was,,THIS! made him qualified,,
this is not matter of discussion ,,gas prices can be 6 dolaros it wont matter,,
obama finished osama...end!
for that kind of a win ,,which is always followed closely and approve by president since they ask him if he want him dead or alive,,he chose dead ,,for that he will get second term and most likley get in history ofo usa as good president
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elections are far away, you seem to forget how quick humans forget, next week this time it will be such old news no one will care anymore
you are also out of touch with how poor people are getting here in the states especially in NY, educate yourself a bit, year to date prices are up an avg of 14% http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/big_apple_gets_price_clubbed_BYF1ApF3ol3i4CuiQbDEoM
Him vs Mitt Romney, romney wins, not because he is or isnt better but people need change again, its a fools game these elections.
But again, until you do not study how broke people are you will not truly understand that killing b9in laden is no guarantee for another term.
People here are PISS poor
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i agree.. a year from now people will remember the failed policies (stimulus and the health care bill is looking like it will be overturned) and the piss poor economy.. not the killing of bin laden.. people will celebrate the death of bin laden and america will come together for a week or two and then the reality will come about.. again..
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lol, you must be rich folk.
Nothing to do with rich, poor, middle class. More about people thinking they deserve, entitled to something because they are incapable, or too lazy to make something out of themselves. Last time I checked we still live in a capitalist world. Shouldn't be any free handouts and dumbasses draining the system.
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amen.. i am far from rich.. but i am not going to expect those that are to give me their own money.. that is just ignorant thinking.. my lack of wealth is based on the job i choose.. the lack of education i have .. and just plain bad decision making in regards to jobs i did have.. i am far from poor.. but my current income is my own burden to bare.. not others..
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Nothing to do with rich, poor, middle class. More about people thinking they deserve, entitled to something because they are incapable, or too lazy to make something out of themselves. Last time I checked we still live in a capitalist world. Shouldn't be any free handouts and dumbasses draining the system.
it has everything to do with class racism is no longer your biggest problem its classism there are no races just rich and poor
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To put it lightly, I'm not an Obama supporter.
But he WILL get re-elected again. He's going to get the black vote again, latino vote, the young liberal 20 somethings will vote for him again.
I hope the Republicans are kidding when they mention Trump as a potential candidate. Does he have ANY political experience? Trump is almost as liberal as Obama is!
Sorry Obama will get 30% of the black votes at best. You are behind the times.
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JUST ANNOUNCED.... bin laden was asked to surrender more than once during the raid.. so the order was to be taken alive if possible.. of course he would say no.. but that goes to show ya that obama and holder would have liked to have taken him alive... how ignorant!!!
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FAIL
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i really don't think that he will. this was a very strategic political move (taking out bin laden) but i still think he is generally disliked...in other word's no he is a one term president
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you fellas are nuts for real,,
this is the equivalent of capturing adolf hitler in the 1940s.... now osama is no adolf hitler and didnt murder as many ,,and not even close to what that natzi psycopath was,,but osama was the hitler of generation nothingness,,again not remotely close but if he could osama woudl put all of you into oven and cook you alive,,
so in conclusion
barak huseen obama the infantile the one who had no experience in nothing ,,the one who brought to power by internet....found his compass he showed the ability to operate and make decisions that are critical for the outmost security of the usa....he did probably the most important thing in the last 20 years,,thus barak hussein obama has eared a second term ,,what he will do with this second term only god know,,hopefuly will do something good,,
he is APPROVED BY GH15 WITH CAPITAL RAINBOW OF GOLDEN STRIPES ,,he has passed my test
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just before all of the republicanos junkies jump let me clarify somethign highly important
SECURITY > ECONOMY
to all the republicans who always like to talk security ,,you have here the least experience individual did something UN FUCKIN BELIAVBEL ,,that little black and white fella quietly and wizely located,,put a plan ,,and execute the shot into the head of the most wanted terorist in the world in the last 20 years,,
it is important to undertsnd how big it is,,it is not something that is half way big ,,it is major major major,,the mossad wanted him to do it ,,and he did it ,,he gained major point in isreal he will be reelected for second term ,,
in addition! i told you many times in the past that i dont like him,,i still dont,,but! anyone who can sit in close room and keep his mouth shut and plan this thing and oh HE PLANNED IT he is main part of the plan he is the final order signer,,that means he knows and plan every detail of the operation ,,for him to sit a year quiet about it.....shows something that i never thought this fella has,,
he is the ability to to execute.
he is belong where he is
white house
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you fellas are nuts for real,,
this is the equivalent of capturing adolf hitler in the 1940s.... now osama is no adolf hitler and didnt murder as many ,,and not even close to what that natzi psycopath was,,but osama was the hitler of generation nothingness,,again not remotely close but if he could osama woudl put all of you into oven and cook you alive,,
so in conclusion
barak huseen obama the infantile the one who had no experience in nothing ,,the one who brought to power by internet....found his compass he showed the ability to operate and make decisions that are critical for the outmost security of the usa....he did probably the most important thing in the last 20 years,,thus barak hussein obama has eared a second term ,,what he will do with this second term only god know,,hopefuly will do something good,,
he is APPROVED BY GH15 WITH CAPITAL RAINBOW OF GOLDEN STRIPES ,,he has passed my test
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Dude, Obama didn't do it. The MILITARY did it.
Obama was probably sitting back getting told what's what by the military. I doubt Obama himself was the mastermind behind it all.
It's all a charade anyway. Obama was a CIA asset. And he died as a CIA asset. it's not hard to read between the lines.
By the way, what do you think of my physique? Is it pretty awesome?
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Dude, Obama didn't do it. The MILITARY did it.
Obama was probably sitting back getting told what's what by the military. I doubt Obama himself was the mastermind behind it all.
It's all a charade anyway. Obama was a CIA asset. And he died as a CIA asset. it's not hard to read between the lines.
By the way, what do you think of my physique? Is it pretty awesome?
no,,this kind of operation is seen and planned and participated by president,,president know every little detail ,,garenteed!,,comander in cheif will know every detail ,,he wont do the kill ofcourse but he plan it all on paper as in had a hand and feet in everything,,what i mean is the follwing
he got options
a b c d he had to chose,,how you want the operation to go ,,what type of unit,, what type of killing? capture or kill? ground or air or both,,he had oprtions given to him and he had to make a choice,,this is how those things work i garentee you this,,in usa and isreal this is how they do it
he even know the names!! of the fellas from the unit who were in that compound ,,every single name,,G A R E N T E E D
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I am proud of Obama and the military and anyone else involved with this operation.
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Fact: Anyone with even a modicum (i.e., "a little bit of") of intelligence realizes that this process has been an ongoing one, spanning two presidencies and was brought to fruition (again, for those of you in Rio Linda, CA that means "completion" or "it be done") by our Military and Intel. The President merely signs off on it.
If, and I do mean "if", any of us here really think the President is the "hero" for this having ben finally accomplished, then they are genuinely and most importantly, ignorant. Or should I have spelled it more phonetically as it is sometimes pronounced in circles of stupidity, i.e., "ignant"?
FTN that is liberalism.
This Reeves fella should post more often.
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Again, Obama didn't "get" anyone. The military caught up with Bin Laden, and it happened during Obama's administration. Obama had no more hand in this than he did winning last year's Superbowl, which also happened under his watch. But go ahead and gloat anyway. Take another bong hit and write "boooom". It's where your head's at: cartoonland.
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yeah seriously, why should obama get credit for this? he probably will because thats how it works.
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Again, Obama didn't "get" anyone. The military caught up with Bin Laden, and it happened during Obama's administration. Obama had no more hand in this than he did winning last year's Superbowl, which also happened under his watch. But go ahead and gloat anyway. Take another bong hit and write "boooom". It's where your head's at: cartoonland.
Uh, thats not how it happened. Do a little research on how the intel was obtained, and the subsequent National Security briefings that Obama ordered and chaired and then the final directive to carry out this mission issued directly by the President on Friday.
Sorry, but the military didn`t "just catch up" to Bin Laden. Obama and his advisors are due a ton of credit here.
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Uhhhh....no.
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you have to be a complete moron to think this is going to get Barry reelected.
this won't even be a story next weekend, let alone in two years
when gas is $5 a gallon and unemployement is still over 10% see how fast boy wonder gets reelected
no way American makes the same mistake twice
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are these photos real?
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yes already looked fake to me. what idiot is making that
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now that Squadfather's work is done, when can we expect Dave to return from his business trip?
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not buying the whole burial at sea thing,i think its bullshit.they would have brought the body back.this is just more bullshit being as it was an inside job.obama sucks.
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are these photos real?
The one in the middle is Osama's Son. The one on the end is Osama.
He certainly picked the wrong time to visit his dad.
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Republican candidates react to death of Osama bin Laden
. . . Other Republicans, including those likely to run in the 2012 campaign to replace President Obama, also weighed in. Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor whose plans remain uncertain, was blunt.
"Welcome to hell," he said in a statement.
Notably, few give the current commander in chief credit. Here's a sampling of the reaction:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-republicans-bin-laden-20110502,0,7603406.story
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his corpse shoudl be tortured and knife shoudl be stuck through the heart for good day ,,shoudnt have gone to the sea,,shoudl have been humiliated and destroyed,,
arabs know nothing else but the power of strength ,,you show them strength they go hide in theri cave,,you show them fear ...they will stub you in the back,,
a bullet to the head was right,,a burried in the sea was only ok if the seals were fucked with the body before,,giving him muslim burial? FUCK MUSLIM BARIALS ,,he is no muslim ,,he is terrorist of the worst kind,,he will be eaten by the sharks every little piece of his rotten ugly body will ,,
disgusting filthy arab psyco
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Republican candidates react to death of Osama bin Laden
. . . Other Republicans, including those likely to run in the 2012 campaign to replace President Obama, also weighed in. Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor whose plans remain uncertain, was blunt.
"Welcome to hell," he said in a statement.
Notably, few give the current commander in chief credit. Here's a sampling of the reaction:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-republicans-bin-laden-20110502,0,7603406.story
Notice the men gave President Obama credit and the women didn't mention him...just like a c u n t.
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Again, Obama didn't "get" anyone.
What did John McCain mean when he said in almost every stump speech during the presidential campaign, "I will get Osama Bin Laden" ?
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What did John McCain mean when he said in almost every stump speech during the presidential campaign, "I will get Osama Bin Laden" ?
Boom!....President Obama deserves alot of credit!
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Republican candidates react to death of Osama bin Laden
. . . Other Republicans, including those likely to run in the 2012 campaign to replace President Obama, also weighed in. Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor whose plans remain uncertain, was blunt.
"Welcome to hell," he said in a statement.
Notably, few give the current commander in chief credit. Here's a sampling of the reaction:
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-republicans-bin-laden-20110502,0,7603406.story
Take a look at the celebrations that are taking place, who they are that is celebrating and where they are celebrating. College kids that were about 10 years old when this happen. The places that I've seen that are celebrating......Fresno, Boston, SF and more, not that this isn't deserving, but this is Obama's base and these are the people that think Obama deserves ALL of the credit. Any rational and even semi-educated person knows that Obama does deserve credit, but also give credit where credit is due with Pres. Bush. He's the one who made the PROMISE that we would get him no matter how long it took, no matter where he was. Bush was the one who set the tone Bush was the one who had the tools in place for this capture. Props to Obama for following through with it.
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Again, Obama didn't "get" anyone. The military caught up with Bin Laden, and it happened during Obama's administration. Obama had no more hand in this than he did winning last year's Superbowl, which also happened under his watch. But go ahead and gloat anyway. Take another bong hit and write "boooom". It's where your head's at: cartoonland.
Take a look at the celebrations that are taking place, who they are that is celebrating and where they are celebrating. College kids that were about 10 years old when this happen. The places that I've seen that are celebrating......Fresno, Boston, SF and more, not that this isn't deserving, but this is Obama's base and these are the people that think Obama deserves ALL of the credit. Any rational and even semi-educated person knows that Obama does deserve credit, but also give credit where credit is due with Pres. Bush. He's the one who made the PROMISE that we would get him no matter how long it took, no matter where he was. Bush was the one who set the tone Bush was the one who had the tools in place for this capture. Props to Obama for following through with it.
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Not mad at all, but as usual Benny, you're lost for words.
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Not mad at all, but as usual Benny, you're lost for words.
And as usual "The Coach," your english is terrible. lol
Still think Obama is a pathological "lair?" ;D
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maybe is was obama who figured that a wealthy 6'4-6'6" guy with health problems probably ain't living in a cave?
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Actually Bush wanted Saddam Hussein more and got him... The fight is against the Taliban and Al-Qaida and if Osama was taken out then so be it.
LMAO.. this is awesome "bush didnt really want to get the dude that killed 3000 people"
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Gas Prices/War/Economy/Employment/Inflation
That will be the focal point of the election.
"Hey, I got Bin Laden!" will ring hallow in 1-2 years if Joe 12-Pack is paying $5 a gallon and working more $8 p/hr because that's the only job available.
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And as usual "The Coach," your english is terrible. lol
Still think Obama is a pathological "lair?" ;D
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Year and a half is long off. If gas is still 5 dollars and ue at or near 9-10 percent - he is gone.
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Year and a half is long off. If gas is still 5 dollars and ue at or near 9-10 percent - he is gone.
Dude - gas is $4, we're in the Great Depression II, UE is realistically at 17% probably...
And even without the "Bin Laden Bump" - His ass is already at 46% this morning on Gallup.
Do you think he's gonna go DOWN by killing OBL? LOL!
face it champ - about 46% of americans DO NOT BLAME HIM FOR gas prices or UE numbers.
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Obama will be reelected imo... Not my wish but that's what I think will happen at this point. I posted about this before today's news. This crap just adds to it.
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Nobody knows for sure at this point. Obama could very well end up like Jimmy Carter:
Carter's campaign for re-election in 1980 was one of the most difficult, and least successful, in history. He faced strong challenges from the right (Ronald Reagan), the center (John B. Anderson), and the left (Ted Kennedy). He had to run against his own "stagflation"-ridden economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter#1976_presidential_campaign
In economics, stagflation is a situation in which the inflation rate is high and the economic growth rate is low. It raises a dilemma for economic policy since actions designed to lower inflation may worsen economic growth and vice versa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagflation
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The President was elected on the platform of Health Insurance for everyone,...even if you work part time...And do not say that you can go to an emergency room...that is not cogent healthcare...
Failure to get through access to Healthcare for everyone dooms him I believe.
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The goofs at HP are not even happy over this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/osamas-legacy-american-drift_n_856365.html
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The President was elected on the platform of Health Insurance for everyone,...even if you work part time...And do not say that you can go to an emergency room...that is not cogent healthcare...
Failure to get through access to Healthcare for everyone dooms him I believe.
Oh, I thought most of his supporters elected Obama because they thought he would pay their mortgage, their car loan, their credit card debt and their lottery ticket.
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Nobody knows for sure at this point. Obama could very well end up like Jimmy Carter:
i'm pretty darn 99.9% sure at this point... Obama will see a second term. No it's not what I want.
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i'm pretty darn 99.9% sure at this point... Obama will see a second term. No it's not what I want.
No matter what the economy does, stay the same, get a lot worse? Even if it's out of Obama's control, the crowd if fickle and tends to blame El Presidente.
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Wishful thinking.
Two things--
One, if Obama gets credit for this, he gets blame for Fort Hood, bungling the KSM trial, the naturalization of 3 aliens with terror convictions and any attack that occurs in retaliation for killing Osama. Allegedly, intel to put this operation together came from interrogation via harsh interrogation methods allowed under Bush that ended once Obama took office.
Two, its the economy stupid.
Killing Osama is a largely symbolic accomplishment. Americans will rejoice, but at the end of the day the Navy Seals killed Osama based on intel gathered under President Bush. If there are no jobs and gas is 5 bucks a gallon- nobody will care about this come election time.
Obama can and will be defeated unless the economy does a 180 degree reversal.
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with all due respect.. bin laden was no hitler.. as evil as, maybe.. but no hitler.. this is not THAT big.. but it is big... but to assume obama gets re elected for this is silly.. he will get re elected because the repubs will bring no one against him.. he has failed miserably in the economy (even may liberals have said so) and his health care bill will be chopped to pieces.. so basically he has done little.. even those friendly to the president are giving the credit to the intelligence community and not much to the pres.. the order to ask for his surrender (what the hell were ya going to do with him anyway) and not shot on sight was silly.. you gonna put the guy on trial? silly.. now they are saying most of the intel came from guys who were "persuaded" or waterboarded 4 years ago.. the intel about the courier was obtained this way.. so much for obamas stance that no good info comes this way..
he will get re elected.. but not because of this... it will be because the other team did not show up.. forfeit if you will..
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Did anyone listen to Rush today? Is this true?
http://www.thegrio.com/politics/rush-limbaugh-praises-president.php
Limbaugh: 'Thank God for President Obama'
Today, Rush Limbaugh applauded President Barack Obama for ordering the execution of Osama bin Laden on Sunday.
"We need to open the program today by congratulating President Obama," Limbaugh said. "President Obama has done something extremely effective, and when he does, this needs to be pointed out."
Limbaugh went on to say that President Obama "insisted on the special forces, no one else thought of that."
WATCH RUSH LIMBAUGH PRAISE PRESIDENT OBAMA:
In the past, Limbaugh has issued several negative statements regarding President Obama, his supporters and first lady Michelle Obama.
Limbaugh has routinely slammed the president in less than politically correct language. He has referred to Obama as a "pharoah" and "graffiti on the walls of U.S. history."
Just last month, Limbaugh called Obama's supporters "savages" and said "A lot of it is just walking human debris on the Democrat base side."
In February 2011 Limbaugh commented on Michelle Obama's eating habits, saying "it doesn't look like Michelle Obama follows her own nutritionary, dietary advice," after saying she was spotted eating ribs on a ski vacation.
But today, Limbaugh had nothing but positive remarks about the president.
He continued to praise Obama for killing Osama bin Laden.
"It was President Obama single-handedly and alone who came up with the strategy that brought about the effective assassination of Osama bin Laden.
Thank God for President Obama."
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The people who are making this out to be a Bush v. Obama thing are really pathetic and are the waste of the sewer. Let's keep in mind that this does not make up for two major non government prevented terrorist attacks that occured within a year.
The capturing of Kaleed Sheik Mohamaad which happened less than two years after 9/11, is far more important and a great development than this. Dont get me wrong, Im glad he is dead, but when we captured MOHAMMED, we got valuable intel.
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Obama will be reelected imo... Not my wish but that's what I think will happen at this point. I posted about this before today's news. This crap just adds to it.
ofcourse he will be reelected,,,fella sit there in his fuckin room fo ralmost a year otu of 2 year presidency planning the killing of osama bin laden ,,that no one obama was sitting in a room for almost a year planning the killing of osama with out it gettign out of the room ,,he was sitting and planing liek an ant,,every little detail ,,every little thing to make sure it is the right finish,,
he HIMSELF chose the way it wil go ,,he decided to send 24 seals,,directly to the source so they can verify and bring body ,,he made sure it was no bombs so they can bring him justice to his face,,
obama has done something great in american history ,,this is no more generation nothingness president,,it is generation nothingness govered by president that proved himself to be qualified for generation nothingess or any other generation.
what he did ijn the last year,,because this is a plan of atleast a year...wil be remembered for 100s of years ,,he got into history books with ACTION,,
he will be reelected and deserved it
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ahhhh thanks. ::)
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Nothing to do with rich, poor, middle class. More about people thinking they deserve, entitled to something because they are incapable, or too lazy to make something out of themselves. Last time I checked we still live in a capitalist world. Shouldn't be any free handouts and dumbasses draining the system.
We live in a hybrid system now, not capitalism. The corporations have the say of pay for employee's no longer the unions. The corporations choose your pay, the lowest possible they can pay to keep you at your post. Great system! Obama needs to unionize the whole workforce and shove it down corporate America's throat.
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ofcourse he will be reelected,,,fella sit there in his fuckin room fo ralmost a year otu of 2 year presidency planning the killing of osama bin laden ,,that no one obama was sitting in a room for almost a year planning the killing of osama with out it gettign out of the room ,,he was sitting and planing liek an ant,,every little detail ,,every little thing to make sure it is the right finish,,
he HIMSELF chose the way it wil go ,,he decided to send 24 seals,,directly to the source so they can verify and bring body ,,he made sure it was no bombs so they can bring him justice to his face,,
obama has done something great in american history ,,this is no more generation nothingness president,,it is generation nothingness govered by president that proved himself to be qualified for generation nothingess or any other generation.
what he did ijn the last year,,because this is a plan of atleast a year...wil be remembered for 100s of years ,,he got into history books with ACTION,,
he will be reelected and deserved it
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HAHAHA yea... ok............ Obama just saved the world.... Go Go Transformerbama!!! ::)
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We live in a hybrid system now, not capitalism. The corporations have the say of pay for employee's no longer the unions. The corporations choose your pay, the lowest possible they can pay to keep you at your post. Great system! Obama needs to unionize the whole workforce and shove it down corporate America's throat.
Wrong. Its less capitalism when unions determine wages. In that type of arrangement, you are not exhibiting an efficient allocation of resources. People are not free to negotiate thier own wages, and you are making people unemployed. Cooporations dont CHOOSE pay. They have very little control over that. First of all, they dont have total control over how much YOU will produce. They can only pay you what you produce. Coorporations also dont have total control over revenue. Its the revenue that allows them to pay the workers.
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Obama's entire reelection hinges on the state of the economy.
A year from now, if unemployment is still around 10%, gas hits $4+ for the second year in a row, inflation is hitting the rest of the markets and so on then no amount of Democratic spin will save him.
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Wrong. Its less capitalism when unions determine wages. In that type of arrangement, you are not exhibiting an efficient allocation of resources. People are not free to negotiate thier own wages, and you are making people unemployed. Cooporations dont CHOOSE pay. They have very little control over that. First of all, they dont have total control over how much YOU will produce. They can only pay you what you produce. Coorporations also dont have total control over revenue. Its the revenue that allows them to pay the workers.
record profits, record lowest wages(when factor in inflation), explain that. Corporate greed.
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Wrong. Its less capitalism when unions determine wages. In that type of arrangement, you are not exhibiting an efficient allocation of resources. People are not free to negotiate thier own wages, and you are making people unemployed. Cooporations dont CHOOSE pay. They have very little control over that. First of all, they dont have total control over how much YOU will produce. They can only pay you what you produce. Coorporations also dont have total control over revenue. Its the revenue that allows them to pay the workers.
so US was less capitalism from 1900 - 1970's, when it was doing it's best, but now it is best capitalism because we have less unions, but wait, isn't the US in it's worst economic times now, so capitalism maybe is bad? US was doing well with unions from 1900 - 1970.
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record profits, record lowest wages(when factor in inflation), explain that. Corporate greed.
We do not have record low wages, particularly when you factor in benefits. Its profits that pay salaries and create jobs. Profits are only 10% of the economy.
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Obama's entire reelection hinges on the state of the economy.
A year from now, if unemployment is still around 10%, gas hits $4+ for the second year in a row, inflation is hitting the rest of the markets and so on then no amount of Democratic spin will save him.
I dunno... people have lived in a depression for what, 2.5 years now? it's worse every day and obama's ass is sitting pretty at 46% on gallup.
Will things be THAT much worse in 1 year? How many of that 46% (who are currenly A-okay with the shit we're in) are going to change their mind after supporting 2.5 years of this spend happy lib?
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I dunno... people have lived in a depression for what, 2.5 years now? it's worse every day and obama's ass is sitting pretty at 46% on gallup.
Will things be THAT much worse in 1 year? How many of that 46% (who are currenly A-okay with the shit we're in) are going to change their mind after supporting 2.5 years of this spend happy lib?
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Spin, fail, spin, fail, spin, fail. When are you going to learn that your attempts to defend this sinking administration mean nothing, creepy leftist?
I posted a Gallup graph showing Obama's approval ratings crashing in a nearly IDENTICAL pattern to Carter's less than two weeks ago. Was Carter reelected? No, he wasn't.
46% doesn't mean anything (and it was lower than 46% before Bin Laden's death). What matters are the independents, which he has been bleeding badly. 40% or so of this country is always going to vote Dem and another 40% or so is always going to vote Republican. You acting like like a 45% approval rating is something to be proud of (hilarious, by the way) and guarantees his election shows just how fucking stupid you are.
The funniest part of this is that you claim to do nothing but watch and read about politics.
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it was 46% last night. gallup doesn't adjust by the minute.
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HAHAHA yea... ok............ Obama just saved the world.... Go Go Transformerbama!!! ::)
again i will rrepeat it once again!,,obama has gained major points wether you like it or not with this,,this is very very big thing,,only fellas who understand security understand how big it is,,and yes obama knew every little detail and stage of the plan because HE IS THE ONE WHO MADE IT! ,,if you knew how countris like americana is isreal operate ....you would know the commander in chief knows everything when it comes to war and special missions of the military,,
obama from nothing became something and something quite big ,,he will be remembered for good
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He made the plan?
I don't think so. Where did he get his training? Rainbow 6 on xBox?
HE APPROVED THE PLAN AND GAVE THE GO AHEAD.
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it was 46% last night. gallup doesn't adjust by the minute.
That's all you took out of my post? Guess that means you can't refute anything else.
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The one I see this helping most is Romney.
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The one I see this helping most is Romney.
hahah Romney that fool is a joke, rich, mormon, and losing many times over, just doesn't seem to get the message.
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He made the plan?
I don't think so. Where did he get his training? Rainbow 6 on xBox?
HE APPROVED THE PLAN AND GAVE THE GO AHEAD.
NO ,,he was integral part of making the plan ,,every step he had to approve ,, he also had to suggest diff ways for it to be done,,he is the one who brought diff situation like ...what if a choper go down LIKE IT DID,,he is the one who decided he wanted face to face killing and bringing a body out rather than live terorist,,
his decision was to contact it face to face and finish him on the spot,,as in BRINING JUSTICE TO HIM IN A MATTER OF 120 SECONDS,,he decided that HE WANTED OSAMA BIN LADEN TO FEEL FEAR AND TO SEE HIS LIFE SLEEPING AWAY ,,THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CHOSE THE WAY OF KILLING,,OBAMA HAS DECIDED HOW OSAMA WILL BE FINISHED,,
it is great leadership
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yeah... there was a lot of risk with the boots-on-ground method here. Suppose the house was booby-trapped and bin laden triggered a device that killed 30 marines along with himself? He surely heard the choppers - it was 3 pm there. he had plenty of time to throw a handful of grenades at the crowd of men climbing his walls.
So there was some risk here. it worked out. A predator strike wouldn't have given nearly the same risk, but wouldn't have been a bullet to head either.
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yeah... there was a lot of risk with the boots-on-ground method here. Suppose the house was booby-trapped and bin laden triggered a device that killed 30 marines along with himself? He surely heard the choppers - it was 3 pm there. he had plenty of time to throw a handful of grenades at the crowd of men climbing his walls.
So there was some risk here. it worked out. A predator strike wouldn't have given nearly the same risk, but wouldn't have been a bullet to head either.
They didn't land anywhere close to that house... They landed a good distance away and creeped in.
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Nonsense. You actually think that a man that was playing hide and seek for almost 10 years was going to booby-trap the compound and go out in a blaze of glory? A person that keeps running away from justice that much has a sense of self preservation. And as we know, he proved he was a coward by using the woman as a human shield. Please, there was no risk of such a thing occurring. And even if Bin Laden wasn't there, Pakistan would have done anything about it. It was not the first time, that USA goes into their territory, whether by drones or soldiers, looking for him.
Having said all that, Obama is still a 1 term president if he continues to destroy the economy. Killing Bin Laden doesn't pay the bills, doesn't save jobs and doesn't prevent foreclosures. Only liberal idiots and emotionally disturbed individuals would think otherwise.
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They didn't land anywhere close to that house... They landed a good distance away and creeped in.
Gotcha. I read bin laden had 2 minutes to shit his pants before they capped him?
They shot down 22 of his men, and then got him in the house, and he didn't have time to pick up his grenade belt? Come on.
If he was 'for real', he'd have a nice trigger in every room or on his belt, to blow the whole compound and take em all with him
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Gotcha. I read bin laden had 2 minutes to shit his pants before they capped him?
They shot down 22 of his men, and then got him in the house, and he didn't have time to pick up his grenade belt? Come on.
If he was 'for real', he'd have a nice trigger in every room or on his belt, to blow the whole compound and take em all with him
They didn't shoot down 22. They shot down 4 and captured 20-22. He was capped on the third floor where he had been sleeping. You really think he expected 30 SEALs and CIA SAD guys to drop into his house at 3 AM?
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it was 46% last night. gallup doesn't adjust by the minute.
What was it when he started his job?
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oh, i thought it was 3 PM when they caught him. Gotcha.
still... million dollar compound and you don't have a better bedroom door?
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They didn't shoot down 22. They shot down 4 and captured 20-22. He was capped on the third floor where he had been sleeping. You really think he expected 30 SEALs and CIA SAD guys to drop into his house at 3 AM?
team6,,the best team among the americano seals
mission: killing osama bin laden
results: complied and accomplished sucesfully
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oh, i thought it was 3 PM when they caught him. Gotcha.
still... million dollar compound and you don't have a better bedroom door?
He had 18 foot steel walls, every section of the house was walled off, a 7 foot high wall hiding the patio and a bunch of other shit designed to protect him. You think a door is going to stop 30 of the most powerful soldiers on the planet? This was DEVGRU and CIA paramilitary (S.A.D.). You really think a door was going to stop them?
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He had 18 foot steel walls, every section of the house was walled off, a 7 foot high wall hiding the patio and a bunch of other shit designed to protect him. You think a door is going to stop 30 of the most powerful soldiers on the planet? This was DEVGRU and CIA paramilitary (S.A.D.). You really think a door was going to stop them?
no, but i think a door would provide him 2 seconds to stomp on the house bomb trigger.
Seems like someone intent on not getting taken alive would have a suicide option. They had time to stand (hence his woman in front of him) so he had time to trigger the house system or a grenade or whatever.
I dunno... he was probably running around the room shitting his pants for 30 seconds, and his bitch obediently put the gun to his head. REMEMBER - OBL used to have a man whose only job was to shoot him before capture. Maybe that "lucky" shot was a close range bullet from his wifey before they got her or she off'd herself too, as they heard the popping downstairs.
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no, but i think a door would provide him 2 seconds to stomp on the house bomb trigger.
Seems like someone intent on not getting taken alive would have a suicide option. They had time to stand (hence his woman in front of him) so he had time to trigger the house system or a grenade or whatever.
I dunno... he was probably running around the room shitting his pants for 30 seconds, and his bitch obediently put the gun to his head. REMEMBER - OBL used to have a man whose only job was to shoot him before capture. Maybe that "lucky" shot was a close range bullet from his wifey before they got her or she off'd herself too, as they heard the popping downstairs.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't buy any of that shit... A guy who didn't care about living or dying would have been the martyr a long time ago... Instead, this jackass was too much of a pussy to do anything himself... He sends women, children, and stupid dumbass men to do his work for him.
OBL has NEVER... listen to me... NEVER EVER... had any notion of killing himself.
He was too much of a pussy to do anything that would kill himself, and using a woman as a human shield should show every single person on the fucking planet, that he was all talk and no walk.
You can take that to the fucking bank.
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As far as I'm concerned, I don't buy any of that shit... A guy who didn't care about living or dying would have been the Martyr a long time ago... Instead, this jackass was too much of a pussy to do anything himself... He sends women, children, and stupid dumbass men to do his work for him.
OBL has NEVER... listen to me... NEVER EVER... had any notion of killing himself.
He was too much of a pussy to do anything that would kill himself, and using a woman as a human shield should show every single person on the fucking planet, that he was all talk and no walk.
You can take that to the fucking bank.
Word.
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As far as I'm concerned, I don't buy any of that shit... A guy who didn't care about living or dying would have been the Martyr a long time ago... Instead, this jackass was too much of a pussy to do anything himself... He sends women, children, and stupid dumbass men to do his work for him.
OBL has NEVER... listen to me... NEVER EVER... had any notion of killing himself.
He was too much of a pussy to do anything that would kill himself, and using a woman as a human shield should show every single person on the fucking planet, that he was all talk and no walk.
You can take that to the fucking bank.
Exactly. All these imams, clerics and other terrorist leaders that stir people onto jihad are fucking pussies. Fucking cowards through and through.
Really though, why would they pass up 72 virgins? ::)
Time to get off oil and send the Muslims and their bullshit into the ashes of history.
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As far as I'm concerned, I don't buy any of that shit... A guy who didn't care about living or dying would have been the Martyr a long time ago
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I dunno... Just the fact he was alive, releasing statments, helped recruitment for his cause.
Maybe this will become the prevalent conspiracy theory here- why he was shot in the eye (and I"m betting his woman had a self-inflicted similar shot...
There's no denying he had a suicide man, right? it's been talked about a lot - he could never be taken alive.
My guess is that they got some noise warning. exchanged some words and she popped him. Then she off'd herself. OR maybe he shot himself, who knows.
Special forces did their job, found the bodies, and got him the hell out of there.
Really - doesn't that make more sense than "middle of night magic shot to the eye socket in a fast 3 am shootout in the dark"? LOL! He's dead, that's all that matters. The rest is the story we choose to sell.
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Here we go with the unsubstantiated CTs.
You do know that every story has stated that he was killed while firing his own gun, right? Was probably hiding behind the bed with only his head exposed, hence the double tap to the face.
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I dunno... Just the fact he was alive, releasing statments, helped recruitment for his cause.
Maybe this will become the prevalent conspiracy theory here- why he was shot in the eye (and I"m betting his woman had a self-inflicted similar shot...
There's no denying he had a suicide man, right? it's been talked about a lot - he could never be taken alive.
My guess is that they got some noise warning. exchanged some words and she popped him. Then she off'd herself. OR maybe he shot himself, who knows.
Special forces did their job, found the bodies, and got him the hell out of there.
Really - doesn't that make more sense than "middle of night magic shot to the eye socket in a fast 3 am shootout in the dark"? LOL! He's dead, that's all that matters. The rest is the story we choose to sell.
Dude... I know you like to stir the shit... but let's be real here.
Osama Bin Laden NEVER... EVER thought about killing himself... Not once.
This guy could have done it when the USSR was in Afghanistan or a 100 other times since... This guy was wouldn't have got married to anyone if he was ready to die... Everything in his life was about LIVING.
Not one god damn thing was about potentially dying...
He was even willing to let a woman take a bullet for him to keep HIMSELF alive... That blows your CT to hell right there.
Dude was a straight pussy.
I can't believe you're even just making these stories up... These aren't CTs... These are god damn fairy tales.
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Here we go with the unsubstantiated CTs.
You do know that every story has stated that he was killed while firing his own gun, right? Was probably hiding behind the bed with only his head exposed, hence the double tap to the face.
You said it. "Every story".
I believe some "stories" change over time. Ask pat tillman.
In this case... eye shot... my guess is suicide. autopsy pics would show how close that bullet was, but he was dumped overboard a little too fast for that.
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Here we go with the unsubstantiated CTs.
You do know that every story has stated that he was killed while firing his own gun, right? Was probably hiding behind the bed with only his head exposed, hence the double tap to the face.
Fuck "unsubstantiated CTs".
It's fucking completely made up bullshit this time... 100 percent fabrication.
I can handle a CT... maybe some evidence... This shit is just like me or you telling a straight fucking lie.
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Osama Bin Laden NEVER... EVER thought about killing himself... Not once.
He didn't have a suicide guy whose only job was to shoot him before he could be captured?
Did our govt make that up?
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He didn't have a suicide guy whose only job was to shoot him before he could be captured?
Did our govt make that up?
He might have made it look like he did... Maybe even had some guy close by who he "let it slip" that's what his job was, so we had bad information, but his actions are NOT that of someone who's ready to "die for the cause".
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Fuck "unsubstantiated CTs".
It's fucking completely made up bullshit this time... 100 percent fabrication.
I can handle a CT... maybe some evidence... This shit is just like me or you telling a straight fucking lie.
oh god, now we have different classifications of CTs? oh WTF?
he had a suicide man for years.
i believe you can't kill/capture peoeple thru an entire compund and kick down 3rd story door without OBL hearing something.
I believe he capped himself. It's that simple. Hence the quick throwaway.
NOW - unless you have beef with 333386 and his unsubstantiated theories that obama is killing economy on purpose for his NWO handlers.
Offing himself would make OBL even more of a bitch for this. I'm not exactly defending him here.
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. And as we know, he proved he was a coward by using the woman as a human shield.
I also heard the SEALs came in just as he was ready to sit down for a nice hot bowl of fetus. Fetus' around the world are now breathing a sigh of relief. U.S.A! U.S.A!
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He might have made it look like he did... Maybe even had some guy close by who he "let it slip" that's what his job was, so we had bad information, but his actions are NOT that of someone who's ready to "die for the cause".
NOw who is making up unsubstantiated shit? Our retired generals said there was a suicide man. They said it many times in 2001.
You have just presented an unsubstanaitated theory that goes against all of that. But that's cool.
my belief is that OBL knew death or capture was arriving - and he preferred death. I think the eye shot - and not 40 bullet holes in his torso - indicates a close shot. self inflicted or his woman.
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oh god, now we have different classifications of CTs? oh WTF?
he had a suicide man for years.
i believe you can't kill/capture peoeple thru an entire compund and kick down 3rd story door without OBL hearing something.
I believe he capped himself. It's that simple. Hence the quick throwaway.
NOW - unless you have beef with 333386 and his unsubstantiated theories that obama is killing economy on purpose for his NWO handlers.
Offing himself would make OBL even more of a bitch for this. I'm not exactly defending him here.
You know this based on?
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oh god, now we have different classifications of CTs? oh WTF?
he had a suicide man for years.
i believe you can't kill/capture peoeple thru an entire compund and kick down 3rd story door without OBL hearing something.
I believe he capped himself. It's that simple. Hence the quick throwaway.
NOW - unless you have beef with 333386 and his unsubstantiated theories that obama is killing economy on purpose for his NWO handlers.
Offing himself would make OBL even more of a bitch for this. I'm not exactly defending him here.
333 backs his claims up with stories and articles. You just pulled your claim out of your ass.
Here's a claim. The SEALs walked in on OBL taking it up the ass from his wife with a strap-on. After pointing a dildo at the SEALs they double-tapped him in the face.
The funny part? That has as much credence as your theory.
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NOw who is making up unsubstantiated shit? Our retired generals said there was a suicide man. They said it many times in 2001.
You have just presented an unsubstanaitated theory that goes against all of that. But that's cool.
my belief is that OBL knew death or capture was arriving - and he preferred death. I think the eye shot - and not 40 bullet holes in his torse - indicates a close shot.
No... I said it's possible... Which it is...You treat the crap you whip out of your head like it's some kind of fact.
I'm saying that at the end of the day, the SEAL team said they shot the guy and I'm going to believe them over some guy 1/2 a planet away who is making shit up.
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You know this based on?
years of watching fox and msnbc. they always talked about how OBL woudl never be captured or taken alive. We've talked about it here a lot too. God, having a good memory is a pain sometimes.
At any rate, you believe what the tv tells you. quick body disposal, don't worry about that. personally, i think he capped himself. close eye shot as opposed to getting sprayed full auto.
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No... I said it's possible... Which it is...You treat the crap you whip out of your head like it's some kind of fact.
I'm saying that at the end of the day, the SEAL team said they shot the #### and I'm going to believe them over some guy 1/2 a planet away who is making shit up.
Also to note, having your wife shoot you in the face does not grant you martyrdom. If he was as pious a Muslim as he claimed he was then he would have died in battle at the hands of a US soldier.
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years of watching fox and msnbc. they always talked about how OBL woudl never be captured or taken alive. We've talked about it here a lot too. God, having a good memory is a pain sometimes.
At any rate, you believe what the tv tells you. quick body disposal, don't worry about that. personally, i think he capped himself. close eye shot as opposed to getting sprayed full auto.
I'd rather believe my armed forces than some made up story you just pulled out of your ass dude... sorry.\
And who cares about taking him alive... No one in America gave a fuck about that.
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Also to note, having your wife shoot you in the face does not grant you martyrdom. If he was as pious a Muslim as he claimed he was then he would have died in battle at the hands of a US soldier.
Exactly... That is just some jackass getting shot.
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No... I said it's possible... Which it is...You treat the crap you whip out of your head like it's some kind of fact.
I'm saying that at the end of the day, the SEAL team said they shot the #### and I'm going to believe them over some guy 1/2 a planet away who is making shit up.
I don't claim anything as fact. My belief is that - for history, for the victory, for world perception for hundreds of years to come - OBL shooting himself in head is not a win. Him cowering behind a woman while super USA guy kicks down door and delivers precision shot like an eddie murphy movie? Fcuk, yes!
Just my theory tho. I think if we kicked down that door, he gets pinkmisted by 3 guys with 30 rounds apiece. And I think if he wanted to shoot himself, the eye is a safe bet.
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I'd rather believe my armed forces than some made up story you just pulled out of your ass dude... sorry.\
And who cares about taking him alive... No one in America gave a fuck about that.
You're right about that. It was a kill mission from the get-go. They had no intention of taking him alive.
I don't claim anything as fact. My belief is that - for history, for the victory, for world perception for hundreds of years to come - OBL shooting himself in head is not a win. Him cowering behind a woman while super USA guy kicks down door and delivers precision shot like an eddie murphy movie? Fcuk, yes!
Just my theory tho. I think if we kicked down that door, he gets pinkmisted by 3 guys with 30 rounds apiece. And I think if he wanted to shoot himself, the eye is a safe bet.
You realize they assembled 30 of the best soldiers in this country for this mission, right? You really think they aren't capable of shooting a guy in the face in a bedroom? Please. These are guys who have been fighting inside Pakistan for years....in teams that usually number 4 or less people. Their aim is as good as it gets and they can probably shoot a guy in the face at that range with their eyes closed.
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Obama Finds Praise, Even From Republicans
By JEFF ZELENY and JIM RUTENBERG
WASHINGTON — President Obama drew praise from unlikely quarters on Monday for pursuing a risky and clandestine mission to kill Osama bin Laden, a successful operation that interrupted the withering Republican criticism about his foreign policy, world view and his grasp of the office.
Former Vice President Dick Cheney declared, “The administration clearly deserves credit for the success of the operation.” New York’s former mayor, Rudolph W. Giuliani, said, “I admire the courage of the president.” And Donald J. Trump declared, “I want to personally congratulate President Obama.”
As fleeting as it might prove to be, the positive tone stood in blunt contrast to the narrative Republicans have been working to build in the opening stages of the 2012 presidential campaign.
The argument that most potential Republican candidates have been making — that Mr. Obama is an indecisive leader, incapable of handling rapidly evolving events around the world — suddenly became more complicated. And the boost in stature for Mr. Obama, even if temporary, comes when a number of Republicans are deciding whether to commit themselves to the presidential race, and offered fresh evidence that he might be less vulnerable than his opponents thought.
The development came at a good time for Mr. Obama, who received the worst foreign policy rating of his presidency in a New York Times/CBS News poll last month, with 46 percent of respondents saying they disapproved of his handling of international affairs. But the implications for the president, who will visit the World Trade Center on Thursday, were impossible to predict.
The nation’s unemployment rate remains relatively high, and the economic recovery has yet to gain traction. High gasoline prices are pinching consumer budgets and eroding confidence. Seventy percent of Americans in the Times/CBS poll last month said the country was on the wrong track, and the White House is heading into what could be a bitter fight with Republicans about spending and raising the debt limit.
But at a minimum, Mr. Obama has been dealt another high-profile opportunity to try to position himself above the bitter partisan fray and offer a voice of reasoned compromise — a theme consistent with his strategy over the past six months of shedding Republican efforts to cast him as a partisan liberal out of touch with the country’s values.
“The world is safer; it is a better place because of the death of Osama bin Laden,” Mr. Obama said Monday. “Today, we are reminded that, as a nation, there’s nothing we can’t do when we put our shoulders to the wheel, when we work together, when we remember the sense of unity that defines us as Americans.”
The terrorist attacks that Bin Laden masterminded in New York and Washington a decade ago caused a significant shift in the nation’s politics. It remained to be seen to what extent his killing — dramatic as it was — would reorder the political landscape.
The developments came at a big moment in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, with new prospective candidates like Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana facing pressure to jump in. Jon M. Huntsman Jr., a former Utah governor who just returned from two years as ambassador to China to open a presidential run, found his efforts to trumpet his foreign policy experience immediately overshadowed.
“The president deserves and will receive credit for Bin Laden being killed on his watch,” said Mike DuHaime, a Republican strategist who advised Mr. Giuliani’s 2008 presidential bid. “Like Sept. 11 and its aftermath, this is a moment that transcends politics.”
Karl Rove, the Republican strategist for President George W. Bush, said that party’s crop of presidential aspirants would be wise to not be “churlish.” But he said he did not believe Bin Laden’s death would be a deciding issue in the 2012 campaign.
“This will tend to cause a lot of people to say we got our job done,” Mr. Rove said, noting a similar reaction when Saddam Hussein was captured in 2003. “This is a moment that will require him to say, ‘Here’s what needs to be done to prevail in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Yemen, in the broader war on terror.’ ”
For Mr. Obama, the killing of Bin Laden represented a significant mark in his evolution as a national political leader, a career that has developed entirely in the decade since 9/11.
He was initially warned against seeking higher office because his name looked and sounded like Bin Laden’s. His campaign assertions that he would unilaterally act against “high-value terrorist targets” in Pakistan were met with charges of naïveté from rivals — including Hillary Rodham Clinton — for telegraphing such a move. The president’s advisers declined to discuss the political ramifications of the Bin Laden killing. But they said that they were mindful of the lessons of 1992, when the approval ratings of President George Bush rocketed after the Gulf War.
Samuel K. Skinner, the White House chief of staff at the time, remembered how Mr. Bush emerged with approval ratings of around 90 percent only to lose to Bill Clinton the following year.
“Everybody was shocked at how quickly things had dropped, precipitously,” Mr. Skinner said in an interview Monday. “Because of economic issues — and people’s perspectives of where the economy was — we were basically down south of 50 percent by October and November, and we were never able to recover.”
More recently, the bump in the polls that George W. Bush received after the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003 evaporated within months.
In his first presidential campaign, Mr. Obama reaped considerable political benefit from his anti-Iraq war candidacy. In his second, he is hoping that he reaps the same level of benefit from his established role as a commander in chief who sent more troops to Afghanistan, authorized military strikes on Libya and signed off on the mission to kill Bin Laden.
John Ullyot, a former Marine intelligence officer who served as a Republican spokesman on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the operation was “a gutsy call because so much could have gone wrong.”
“The fact that Obama approved this mission instead of the safer option of bombing the compound was the right call militarily,” Mr. Ullyot said, “but also a real roll of the dice politically because of how quickly it could have unraveled.”
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I'd rather believe
I don't trust what anyone says here. Only the physical evidence. Obama is a liar, and will give us the spoonfed story. Ask Jessica Lynch about that heroic gun battle we heard about. What really happened? Ask Pat tillman!
In my opinion - and I'm not holding some emotional tie to some narrative like you -
The evidence says it was a clean eye shot. To me, that looks more like close shot. To me, a big gun battle in middle of night with multiple guys with rilfes would be a shitload of body shots. I know, the Jessica lynch version of "She emptied two clips" is way sexier than "She never fired a shot then went thru weeks of X X X "
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I don't trust what anyone says here. Only the physical evidence. Obama is a liar, and will give us the spoonfed story. Ask Jessica Lynch about that heroic gun battle we heard about. What really happened? Ask Pat tillman!
In my opinion - and I'm not holding some emotional tie to some narrative like you -
The evidence says it was a clean eye shot. To me, that looks more like close shot. To me, a big gun battle in middle of night with multiple guys with rilfes would be a shitload of body shots. I know, the Jessica lynch version of "She emptied two clips" is way sexier than "She never fired a shot then went thru weeks of X X X "
How do you know they had rifles? If anything, they were probably using something like an MP5 or pistols.
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I don't claim anything as fact. My belief is that - for history, for the victory, for world perception for hundreds of years to come - OBL shooting himself in head is not a win. Him cowering behind a woman while super USA guy kicks down door and delivers precision shot like an eddie murphy movie? Fcuk, yes!
Just my theory tho. I think if we kicked down that door, he gets pinkmisted by 3 guys with 30 rounds apiece. And I think if he wanted to shoot himself, the eye is a safe bet.
If you actually believe all of this stuff you just make up, then you really are lost man.
You're right about that. It was a kill mission from the get-go. They had no intention of taking him alive.
You realize they assembled 30 of the best soldiers in this country for this mission, right? You really think they aren't capable of shooting a guy in the face in a bedroom? Please. These are guys who have been fighting inside Pakistan for years....in teams that usually number 4 or less people. Their aim is as good as it gets and they can probably shoot a guy in the face at that range with their eyes closed.
We're talking about the BEST of the BEST.
CIA ground OPS , Tier 1 guys, Navy Seals... These guys are the BEST fucking fighters on the fucking planet.
Osama Bin Laden was as dead as fried chicken the second they landed.
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If you actually believe all of this stuff you just make up, then you really are lost man.
We're talking about the BEST of the BEST.
CIA ground OPS , Tier 1 guys, Navy Seals... These guys are the BEST fucking fighters on the fucking planet.
Osama Bin Laden was as dead as fried chicken the second they landed.
Exactly. It was CIA paramilitary and DEVGRU. You don't get any better than that. They are THE best fighters you will find on this planet. And there were THIRTY of them. He was fucked the second those helicopters lifted off the ground in Afghanistan.
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I don't trust what anyone says here. Only the physical evidence. Obama is a liar, and will give us the spoonfed story. Ask Jessica Lynch about that heroic gun battle we heard about. What really happened? Ask Pat tillman!
In my opinion - and I'm not holding some emotional tie to some narrative like you -
The evidence says it was a clean eye shot. To me, that looks more like close shot. To me, a big gun battle in middle of night with multiple guys with rilfes would be a shitload of body shots. I know, the Jessica lynch version of "She emptied two clips" is way sexier than "She never fired a shot then went thru weeks of X X X "
This is where you are out there man... You think that because I believe what the reports say that I'm some mindless drone?
I'm telling you that Osama Bin Laden's own actions in life SHOW that he's not into being a martyr and I have no doubt that a kill team who were sent to do the job, got it done.
If it wasn't done by them... it will come out... and then you can jump up and down about how right you are... but until then, I WILL believe them (you know, since they were there) over your imagination.
I'm sure you understand why.
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How do you know they had rifles? If anything, they were probably using something like an MP5 or pistols.
MP5? 9mm and 40cal available, right? ;)
pistols? PISTOLS??????????
Jeebus, as you serious? YOu think they went into his bedroom with pistols. Even including that in the sentence leaves me completely baffled.
You think they walked into a fortified 3-story house filled with terrorists, and they used a caliber that can be stopped with a $400 kevlar vest?
WTF, man?
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MP5? 9mm and 40cal available, right? ;)
pistols? PISTOLS??????????
Jeebus, as you serious? YOu think they went into his bedroom with pistols. Even including that in the sentence leaves me completely baffled.
You think they walked into a fortified 3-story house filled with terrorists, and they used a caliber that can be stopped with a $400 kevlar vest?
WTF, man?
How is it any different than you thinking they cleared a house with full-length assault rifles? Houses over there aren't like they are here. You're not maneuvering a hallway with an M4.
You're really reaching here.
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How is it any different than you thinking they cleared a house with full-length assault rifles?
where did I say that? Link?
LOL... are you taking back the pistol statement yet? I admit it's completely an unfounded theory of a suicide via eye socket.
But are you standing by your statement about using pistols to enter OBL's bedroom? :)
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MP5? 9mm and 40cal available, right? ;)
pistols? PISTOLS??????????
Jeebus, as you serious? YOu think they went into his bedroom with pistols. Even including that in the sentence leaves me completely baffled.
You think they walked into a fortified 3-story house filled with terrorists, and they used a caliber that can be stopped with a $400 kevlar vest?
WTF, man?
Well, the CIA ground ops DO use MP5s... They are trained for the close quarters... Maybe even MP7s.
The Seals were most likely using M4s or something similar...
They actually do quite a bit of close work with Glock17, the Sig 226, and the Beretta M9
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where did I say that? Link?
LOL... are you taking back the pistol statement yet? I admit it's completely an unfounded theory of a suicide via eye socket.
But are you standing by your statement about using pistols to enter OBL's bedroom? :)
I wasn't there so I can't stand by anything. Unfortunately, I'm not a member of DEVGRU or SAD. Still, my claim has just as much weight as yours. :D
LOL @ you thinking all 30 guys were using the same weapon, though.
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LOL @ you thinking all 30 guys were using the same weapon, though.
Link to where I said that? Nope!
I'm saying the breach team going in his door will have rifles. Or mayyybe shottys. Fucking period. They might be up against a damn army in there. They might be up against vests or walls or anything else.
"Grab your glock and run into that room, private!" LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look, we only have the official story of what is the biggest military event in 10 years. IF we had entered and found OBL dead already, it's not impossible we'd paint it as different. Give the hero single shot soldier the credit, as OBL hides behind a woman.
Sorry, the story just sounded too perfect to me. If he was riddled with 40 rounds, I'd believe it. If he wasn't "Cowering behind a woman", I'd believe it.
The story is just too perfect. Just like the Lynch or Tillman stories - and this one matter 100 times more!
So yeah, completely unfounded... but the body getting dumped so fast... makes me think exit wound size and location is something we don't want getting out...
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Link to where I said that? Nope!
I'm saying the breach team going in his door will have rifles. Or mayyybe shottys. Fucking period. They might be up against a damn army in there. They might be up against vests or walls or anything else.
"Grab your glock and run into that room, private!" LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look, we only have the official story of what is the biggest military event in 10 years. IF we had entered and found OBL dead already, it's not impossible we'd paint it as different. Give the hero single shot soldier the credit, as OBL hides behind a woman.
Sorry, the story just sounded too perfect to me. If he was riddled with 40 rounds, I'd believe it. If he wasn't "Cowering behind a woman", I'd believe it.
The story is just too perfect. Just like the Lunch or Tillman stories - and this one matter 100 times more!
So yeah, completely unfounded... but the body getting dumped so fast... makes me think exit wound size and location is something we don't want getting out...
Who the fuck said it was the breach team that killed him? Fact of the matter is that none of us know shit about how it went down and you're pulling completely unfounded theories right out of your ass. That's all there is to it.
Can you even put anyone in the bedroom with him? Because I surely can't. ::)
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Who the fuck said it was the breach team that killed him?
breach team being the ones who "breached" his bedroom door.
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breach team being the ones who "breached" his bedroom door.
I'm fully aware of what you meant by it. Again, can you confirm that the first people in the room were the ones who killed him? Can you even put another person in the room with him? I've yet to read anything that says there was another person in the room with him.
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Again, can you confirm that the first people in the room were the ones who killed him?
???
Are you introducing the possibility that some US military entered the bedroom but didn't shoot bin laden? Were there tea and crumpets involved in this time-out? Or were they loading their 9 mm at the time?
LOL... we're on the same side here, glad he's history. i don't see a CT here - but I am completely cognizant of the fact that no matter how it went down, Obama was going to paint a perfect rosy picture. And after reading Tillman was killed shady by his own team, and Lynch never fired a round but endured brutal rape - and we were sold complete bullshit from the top leaders in our country - I'm not buying this storybook ending.
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Bin Laden used wife as human shield: US official
Source: AFP
(AFP) – 47 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden used one of his wives as a human shield in an apparent attempt to try to save his own life during a raid by US covert forces, a top US official said Monday.
"There was family at that compound, and there was a female who was, in fact, in the line of fire that reportedly was used as a shield to shield bin Laden from the incoming fire," counter-terrorism official John Brennan said.
Pressed on reports the woman shot dead by Navy SEALs during a firefight at a compound in Abbottabad in Pakistan was one of bin Laden's four wives, Brennan told a White House briefing: "That's my understanding."
Brennan said it was not entirely clear "whether or not bin Laden or the son or whatever put her there or she put herself there" or whether the Al-Qaeda chief himself fired rounds during the exchange.
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Wow, an autopsy was a legal requirement for such a shooting?
I guess we didn't want any notes on that exit wound, huh?
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Wow, an autopsy was a legal requirement for such a shooting?
I guess we didn't want any notes on that exit wound, huh?
Do you have any concept of how idiotic you sound when you say shit like that?
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Do you have any concept of how idiotic you sound when you say shit like that?
personal insult instead of addressing my point?
Why didn't they do an autopsy on him?
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personal insult instead of addressing my point?
Why didn't they do an autopsy on him?
No... you really just sound like an idiot when everything you say is some CT based bullshit.
Maybe they DID do an autopsy... They've had the body for almost a week they say right?
Enough to do DNA analysis... Why do you say they didn't? It seems to me that DNA analysis (as they are reporting) is usually a PART of an autopsy.
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Barry Mccaffrey on NBC yesterday:
his security agents had been told to kill in if he were about to be captured by any US extraction operation
And the body was dumped in the ocean inside of 24 hours as per religious custom.
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again i will rrepeat it once again!,,obama has gained major points wether you like it or not with this,,this is very very big thing,,only fellas who understand security understand how big it is,,and yes obama knew every little detail and stage of the plan because HE IS THE ONE WHO MADE IT! ,,if you knew how countris like americana is isreal operate ....you would know the commander in chief knows everything when it comes to war and special missions of the military,,
obama from nothing became something and something quite big ,,he will be remembered for good
gh15 approved
HEHEHEHEEH!!
He made what? American Presidents don't make any military or intelligence plans. NONE. They listen to the CIA and military leaders. The intelligence community did everything. They are the ones who tracked Bin Laden through his courier and the SEALS finished him off. The only thing Obama did was give the green light to execute the attack. Obama did nothing, squat, zero, zilch, nada that led to finding Bin Laden. For crying out loud, the main intelligence gathering that resulted in Bin Laden's death was collected during the Bush administration.
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HEHEHEHEEH!!
He made what? American Presidents don't make any military or intelligence plans. NONE. They listen to the CIA and military leaders. The intelligence community did everything. They are the ones who tracked Bin Laden through his courier and the SEALS finished him off. The only thing Obama did was give the green light to execute the attack. Obama did nothing, squat, zero, zilch, nada that led to finding Bin Laden. For crying out loud, the main intelligence gathering that resulted in Bin Laden's death was collected during the Bush administration.
he gave the final go, that's a big deal.your problem is you watch to much hannity,reading your post is just like your repeating him word for word. :D
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RASMUSSEN: No Immediate Bounce for Obama... Developing...
RASMUSSEN ^ | May 3 2011 | Drudge
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:11:25 AM
RASMUSSEN: No Immediate Bounce for Obama... Developing...
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RASMUSSEN: No Immediate Bounce for Obama... Developing...
RASMUSSEN ^ | May 3 2011 | Drudge
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:11:25 AM
RASMUSSEN: No Immediate Bounce for Obama... Developing...
lol... wanna take a wager on the results over the next 4 weeks? ;)
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RASMUSSEN: No Immediate Bounce for Obama... Developing...
RASMUSSEN ^ | May 3 2011 | Drudge
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:11:25 AM
RASMUSSEN: No Immediate Bounce for Obama... Developing...
who the fu#k cares, this wasn't about polls this is about killing that piece of shit.that's what i like about the repubs they try to take credit or play down the pres part. just be happy the fu#kers dead and leave it at that
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he gave the final go, that's a big deal.your problem is you watch to much hannity,reading your post is just like your repeating him word for word. :D
Hannity must be reading my posts because I stated this early Monday morning while you were drooling all over Obama's nuts.
Tell me something. What is the big deal of giving the final go when all the intelligence has been collected by the CIA administration under your predecessor? Are you stating that it takes a "special" kind of courage on intelligence that no other president has? LOL!! Are you going to actually sit there and act as if Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, GW, or any other president wouldn't have done the same thing? HEHEHEHE!! You, sir, are a moron for overstating the role of a man, who was against everything (enhanced interrogation techniques, CIA camps in Europe, and Gitmo) that contributed to the killing of Bin Laden.
Come back with a talking point from Chris Matthews.
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who the fu#k cares, this wasn't about polls this is about killing that piece of shit.that's what i like about the repubs they try to take credit or play down the pres part. just be happy the fu#kers dead and leave it at that
Look at the title of this thread fool.
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Look at the title of this thread fool.
You have to excuse him, 3333. He is an imbecile.
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Hannity must be reading my posts because I stated this early Monday morning while you were drooling all over Obama's nuts.
Tell me something. What is the big deal of giving the final go when all the intelligence has been collected by the CIA administration under your predecessor? Are you stating that it takes a "special" kind of courage on intelligence that no other president has? LOL!! Are you going to actually sit there and act as if neither Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, GW, or any other president wouldn't have done the same thing? HEHEHEHE!! You, sir, are a moron for overstating the role of a man, who was against everything (enhanced interrogation techniques, CIA camps in Europe, and Gitmo) that contributed to the killing of Bin Laden.
Come back with a talking point from Chris Matthews.
sean,can you just be happy they got him without putting your little right wing spin on it.the pres could have said just bomb the shit out of that site,but instead they went in to make sure they got him.more chances of something going bad.and if something did go wrong you can bet you and sean would have been complaining the next day saying why didn't they just bomb the place and we would have had no american deaths
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sean,can you just be happy they got him without putting your little right wing spin on it.the pres could have said just bomb the shit out of that site,but instead they went in to make sure they got him.more chances of something going bad.and if something did go wrong you can bet you and sean would have been complaining the next day saying why didn't they just bomb the place and we would have had no american deaths
What site did you steal that post from?
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What site did you steal that post from?
great comeback,mr lawyer ::)
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now we know that the US choppers landed INSIDE the compound.
So bin laden had time to think, time to throw grenades, time to off himself, etc.
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now we know that the US choppers landed INSIDE the compound.
So bin laden had time to think, time to throw grenades, time to off himself, etc.
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its always the guys who talk the toughest who never off themselves when it comes time to do so....
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its always the guys who talk the toughest who never off themselves when it comes time to do so....
Hell, you think he'd swallow cyanide or some other substance before letting himself get popped like he did. Hitler and his wife swallowed a couple of suicide pills and Hitler requested his body be destroyed by his henchmen before the allies arrived. Osama may well have been too scared to actually shoot himself, but I'd have thought he'd have some poison pill on a necklace or something so he couldn't be captured and beat up, tortured, etc.
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Osama may well have been too scared to actually shoot himself, but I'd have thought he'd have some poison pill on a necklace or something so he couldn't be captured and beat up, tortured, etc.
choppers landing in his yard and them shooting their way from the 1st to the 3rd floor...
he knew it was coming. He had time to shit himself.
He had time to blow the place if he had chosen to wire it for that.
We can say this - IF IF IF he had shot himself, it's entirely possible that White house would LIE about it. Just like we lied about Tillman, liked about Lynch, etc. paint this amazing heroic picture of events. Tillman was shot in face by friendlies and covered up - what was the story we heard about him capping a ton of mofos? Lynch covered her head, caught and raped - what was the story we were told about her emptying two clips with broken arms?
The fact we had cameras on every helmet but didn't get him being killed on video? Just an announcement of "Geronimo (He's down...)"
barry Mccaffrey reiterated the FACT that Osama had a kill man whose only job it was to cap him before capture.
I still believe he off'd himself or his woman did it. To say "we wouldn't lie about that" would be to ignore the fact we lied about tillman and lynch - FAR smaller stories in terms of importance. They knew they'd find his body and they had this story ready.
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It was a good week for BO, he found his birth certificate and OBL in the same week. Unfortunately for him, the economy and $1.5 trillion deficit is all that matters.
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its always the guys who talk the toughest who never off themselves when it comes time to do so....
Bin Laden did resist. That is why they had to kill him not capture.
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Bin Laden did resist. That is why they had to kill him not capture.
Bin Laden is a fag twink. ...no way he resisted
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Bin Laden is a fag twink. ...no way he resisted
They said put your hands up... he didn't... That's enough resistance.
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The fact we had cameras on every helmet but didn't get him being killed on video? Just an announcement of "Geronimo (He's down...)"
barry Mccaffrey reiterated the FACT that Osama had a kill man whose only job it was to cap him before capture.
I still believe he off'd himself or his woman did it. To say "we wouldn't lie about that" would be to ignore the fact we lied about tillman and lynch - FAR smaller stories in terms of importance. They knew they'd find his body and they had this story ready.
Still finding yet another CT to create and will yourself into believing, eh Rob? You are something else, I tell ya'. :P
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It was a good week for BO, he found his birth certificate and OBL in the same week. Unfortunately for him, the economy and $1.5 trillion deficit is all that matters.
Wrong, those things are not all that matters when we have so many foreign military engagements ongoing. This helps slam shut the door the repubes will try to open that the dems (and specifically Obama) is somehow soft on defense.
Also, your premise that a $1.5 trillion deficit matters is a joke. If unemployment continues downward and gas stabilizes, you're getting four more years of Obama. Dick Chaney once famously said as VP under Bush, "Ronald Reagan proved...deficits don't matter." And they really don't come election time. If a politician runs on promising to make all the necessary cuts to bring down the debt, he would lose in a landslide.
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Wrong, those things are not all that matters when we have so many foreign military engagements ongoing. This helps slam shut the door the repubes will try to open that the dems (and specifically Obama) is somehow soft on defense.
Also, your premise that a $1.5 trillion deficit matters is a joke. If unemployment continues downward and gas stabilizes, you're getting four more years of Obama. Dick Chaney once famously said as VP under Bush, "Ronald Reagan proved...deficits don't matter." And they really don't come election time. If a politician runs on promising to make all the necessary cuts to bring down the debt, he would lose in a landslide.
For the millionth time, deficits dont matter when they are a small enough percentage of your income and assets. But when they are racing up as a large percentage of your GDP, they do matter because they make it harder to create jobs.
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Bin Laden is a fag twink. ...no way he resisted
how many people are you responsible for killing? How many people is Bin Laden responsible for killing? Case closed, your the twink!
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how many people are you responsible for killing? How many people is Bin Laden responsible for killing? Case closed, your the twink!
First of all you closet fag...I never claimed that I am a tough guy killer.....Bin Laden was always asking people to kill themselves for the cause of Islam yet when he had the chance to kill himself to avoid capture (like he promised he would do rather than be captured) he chickened out and chose to die at the hands of the Navy seals....
Maybe you are angry because I exposed the inner fag in you..now the CASE IS CLOSED >:(
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First of all you closet fag...I never claimed that I am a tough guy killer.....Bin Laden was always asking people to kill themselves for the cause of Islam yet when he had the chance to kill himself to avoid capture (like he promised he would do rather than be captured) he chickened out and chose to die at the hands of the Navy seals....
Maybe you are angry because I exposed the inner fag in you..now the CASE IS CLOSED >:(
How do you know this for fact, he could have been sleeping, not close enough to a firearm, you have no idea what happened in that place. Bin Laden is a man of his word, he has shown that over time. Calling me a closet fag for not agreeing with you, yeah real good arguing :)
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First of all you closet fag...I never claimed that I am a tough guy killer.....Bin Laden was always asking people to kill themselves for the cause of Islam yet when he had the chance to kill himself to avoid capture (like he promised he would do rather than be captured) he chickened out and chose to die at the hands of the Navy seals....
Maybe you are angry because I exposed the inner fag in you..now the CASE IS CLOSED >:(
You really don't understand Islam. Killing himself in that manner wouldn't have given him martyrdom. Do you really think one of the most devout Muslims on the planet, who dedicated his life to the pursuit of a caliphate, would fuck up his chance to get his 72 virgins? No. He was able to martyr himself taking a bullet to the face.
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How do you know this for fact, he could have been sleeping, not close enough to a firearm, you have no idea what happened in that place. Bin Laden is a man of his word, he has shown that over time. Calling me a closet fag for not agreeing with you, yeah real good arguing :)
first of all, you started first by calling me a twink....I called Bin laden a twink and you in turn call me one....I just simply called you one using another term for it
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You really don't understand Islam. Killing himself in that manner wouldn't have given him martyrdom. Do you really think one of the most devout Muslims on the planet, who dedicated his life to the pursuit of a caliphate, would fuck up his chance to get his 72 virgins? No. He was able to martyr himself taking a bullet to the face.
This is probably true dickface..I wasn't there..BUT..Bin Laden himself stated that he would never be taken alive and that he supposedly wears a suicide vest 24 hours a day in the event that he is found...we see that wasn't the truth, but Bin laden and other guys from Al Qiada did say this....not me
I simply called him a twink for not following through on what he himself said he would do..thats all...we've blown this up into something stupid for nothing.I found it ironic that he implored others to sacrifice their lives yet he could not do the same when it was his turn
we all satisfied now???
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This is probably true dickface..I wasn't there..BUT..Bin Laden himself stated that he would never be taken alive and that he supposedly wears a suicide vest 24 hours a day in the event that he is found...we see that wasn't the truth, but Bin laden and other guys from Al Qiada did say this....not me
I simply called him a twink for not following through on what he himself said he would do..thats all...we've blown this up into something stupid for nothing.I found it ironic that he implored others to sacrifice their lives yet he could not do the same when it was his turn
we all satisfied now???
A suicide vest and having your wife shoot you in the face or you shooting yourself in the face are very different concepts.
But you find it shocking that he implored others to do it but he didn't? Good job, you just described 99% of radical Muslim clerics.
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A suicide vest and having your wife shoot you in the face or you shooting yourself in the face are very different concepts.
But you find it shocking that he implored others to do it but he didn't? Good job, you just described 99% of radical Muslim clerics.
Boom!!!!
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Boom!!!!
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Andre - want to see slayer and megadeth w me at yankee stadium?
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Andre - want to see slayer and megadeth w me at yankee stadium?
nice invite.,.....I've never seen those guys or really heard their music..but It might be worth it nevertheless...you got tics?
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BACK DOWN TO 45%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
He is gone.
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4 more years!
of
HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT
INFLATION
UNCERTAINTY
HORRIBLE FOREIGN POLICY
WARS OUT THE YIN YANG
WTF POLICIES
HORRIBLE SC APPOINTMENTS
HORRIBLE APPOINTMENTS TO REGULATORY AGENCIES
EPA MADNESS
NLRB MADNESS
WEEKLY GOLFING ADDICTION
FIRST LADY MAKING A GRIFTER OF HERSELF
WORLD KNEEPAD TOURS
NO DRILLING FOR OIL
COMMODITY PRICE INFLATION
AND ON AND ON.
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4 more years!
of
HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT
INFLATION
UNCERTAINTY
HORRIBLE FOREIGN POLICY
WARS OUT THE YIN YANG
WTF POLICIES
HORRIBLE SC APPOINTMENTS
HORRIBLE APPOINTMENTS TO REGULATORY AGENCIES
EPA MADNESS
NLRB MADNESS
WEEKLY GOLFING ADDICTION
FIRST LADY MAKING A GRIFTER OF HERSELF
WORLD KNEEPAD TOURS
NO DRILLING FOR OIL
COMMODITY PRICE INFLATION
AND ON AND ON.
his foreign policy has killed two of the top al queda figures, i'd say he is much better than bush and actually best ever if you consider he got osama bin laden, also their military brain guy too.
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his foreign policy has killed two of the top al queda figures, i'd say he is much better than bush and actually best ever if you consider he got osama bin laden, also their military brain guy too.
Oh please. Bush did no worse on killing terrorists. He captured the #3 man - the mastermind of 9/11, which was the best piece of intelligence in the entire war. He also killed and captured tons of thier leadership. Its way more of a millitary thing than a Bush/Obama thing.
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What the hell does obama plan to do in a second term?
Cap n trade?
More wars?
There is not a single reason I can conjure up to give this idiot a second term either for what he has done so far or plans to do.
He has already screwed up enough and should not be rewarded for it.
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Oh please. Bush did no worse on killing terrorists. He captured the #3 man - the mastermind of 9/11, which was the best piece of intelligence in the entire war. He also killed and captured tons of thier leadership. Its way more of a millitary thing than a Bush/Obama thing.
who do you think sets the tone, puts the right people in place, provides the leadership and makes the decisions?????..get real
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Oh please. Bush did no worse on killing terrorists. He captured the #3 man - the mastermind of 9/11, which was the best piece of intelligence in the entire war. He also killed and captured tons of thier leadership. Its way more of a millitary thing than a Bush/Obama thing.
Oh please, don't believe what you are being told by your government.
If someone lies to you over and over, do you believe them the next time they tell you something? NO.
Then why do you believe the lying government?
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who do you think sets the tone, puts the right people in place, provides the leadership
What was the difference in tone between this administration and the last, as it pertains to killing terrorists?
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"Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who"
King of the Swamp Caslte
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What was the difference in tone between this administration and the last, as it pertains to killing terrorists?
none...I never said there was...talk to 3333...you just made my point for me
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none...I never said there was...talk to 3333...you just made my point for me
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Please tell me what obama will do wih a second term?
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Andre - re-read the chain in one post. You're not making sense to me with your last comment.
Oh please. Bush did no worse on killing terrorists. He captured the #3 man - the mastermind of 9/11, which was the best piece of intelligence in the entire war. He also killed and captured tons of thier leadership. Its way more of a millitary thing than a Bush/Obama thing.
who do you think sets the tone, puts the right people in place, provides the leadership and makes the decisions?????..get real
What was the difference in tone between this administration and the last, as it pertains to killing terrorists?
none...I never said there was...talk to 3333...you just made my point for me
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Andre is desperate to cling on to anything to kneepad obama.
Wait till he reads my China thread with obama today.
It doesnt get more FAIL than that.
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Andre - re-read the chain in one post. You're not making sense to me with your last comment.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear...i was busy and posted the comment quickly..
you said that basically the Bush administration did no worse than the Obama administration in terms of killing terrorists.....I agreed with you and pointed out that 3333 is the one who says that Obama is lacking in that area...
I pointed out that you stated that Bush did no worse than Obama which I took to mean that they both did a good job or an equivalent job...
I then thanked you for reiterating my point, which you basically did, but in a roundabout way
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The only point you reiterate over and over is that you worship the ground obama walks on, even when its pointed out to you that he is a complete disaster.
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The only point you reiterate over and over is that you worship the ground obama walks on, even when its pointed out to you that he is a complete disaster.
sort of like the pot calling the kettle black with your worship of Palin and her numerous mistakes and gaffes
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To err is human, to take someone else's hard earned money and then give it to lazy worthless fucktards requires a democrat.
Want another? Okay...
Brigands (that would be a thief, i.e., your neighbor, for those of you in Rio Linda, California ;D) demand your money or your life. Democrats take both. In the name of "fairness".
FTN™ ;D
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To err is human, to take someone else's hard earned money and then give it to lazy worthless fucktards requires a democrat.
Want another? Okay...
Brigands (that would be a thief, i.e., your neighbor, for those of you in Rio Linda, California ;D) demand your money or your life. Democrats take both. In the name of "fairness".
FTN™ ;D
I understand the point you are trying to make but it is really idiotic....The Republicans have been spending a lot of money as well over the past 40 years or so....they claim to want fiscal sanity but they have been spending a lot as well...remember they controlled the congress for a very long time...about almost 15 years or so......
also. the republicans take your money by not taxing enough and letting corporations keep huge tax breaks and by giving subsidies to the rich....who do you think makes up the difference????.....the average tax-payer...YOU..through the borrowing we have to do to make up the difference
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I understand the point you are trying to make but it is really idiotic....The Republicans have been spending a lot of money as well over the past 40 years or so....they claim to want fiscal sanity but they have been spending a lot as well...remember they controlled the congress for a very long time...about almost 15 years or so......
also. the republicans take your money by not taxing enough and letting corporations keep huge tax breaks and by giving subsidies to the rich....who do you think makes up the difference????.....the average tax-payer...YOU..through the borrowing we have to do to make up the difference
The Republicans balanced the budget in 4 years, something the Dems didnt do for 40 years before that. The spending they did in the last decade was no ideal but far better than the Dems record. Both Dems and Republicans are responsbile for subsidies to corporations - because of lobbying and votes. Even if you raised taxes on "the rich" and got rid of those subsidies, you would at most save $100 billion a year, which is not even close to getting the deficit down. If you raised taxes on only the true rich and left upper middleclass families out, you would save only $10 billion.
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I understand the point you are trying to make but it is really idiotic....The Republicans have been spending a lot of money as well over the past 40 years or so....they claim to want fiscal sanity but they have been spending a lot as well...remember they controlled the congress for a very long time...about almost 15 years or so......
also. the republicans take your money by not taxing enough and letting corporations keep huge tax breaks and by giving subsidies to the rich....who do you think makes up the difference????.....the average tax-payer...YOU..through the borrowing we have to do to make up the difference
I would not make an idiotic point, sir. ;D Both sides lay blame and take credit, ergo what to do...? Who is rich and who is poor? To someone making $25,000 per year, one that makes double or triple that is rich. To be specific and humorous, that, my friends is rich indeed.
When they come for your money, who will speak for you? Give till it hurts, so that others may hurt less? Or is it really give so that others may do less? Yup. That is what it really is. The Great Society is a failure at everything save one goal and that being the subjugation of a group of people, regardless of skin color. Indentured servitude and all for their vote.
And their life. Their soul. Their children's lives and souls, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
If we were to say, instead add two and two and come up with four, we would have at least accomplished something, but alas even sound math is not allowed in the feel good world of liberalism. Allow me to proffer a glimpse of wisdom.
Give a man a fish and you give him a full belly. Teach a man to fish and you end his hunger. Show him how to make nets and sail a boat and you give him a livelihood. Get the fuck out of his way and watch a man do what a man does best. Succeed.
Give a man a welfare check and you take away his pride and his sense of humanity, honor and yes, even decency. Teach him a trade, educate him, infuse him with a work ethic and perhaps even an entrepreneurial spirit and you allow him to stand upon his own two feet and in doing so you do more than give him back his pride, you give him a life worth living. And sharing. With friends and family. And why is this so? Because you did not give him something for nothing and in doing so nurtured his self worth allowing him to strive on his own behalf and that of his family. To earn his way.
The wealthy have the capital to create businesses and business begat jobs. You would tax that to death and in the name of fairness? Fuck that noise.
Now then, if for whatever reason you feel that someone needs to give more, then by all means step up to the plate. Is 50% of your income enough? Why not 60% or more? Yes, why not indeed? Surely you make more than enough for you to get by on less? I would wager that compared to some, you are quite wealthy. Who are you to deny the poor their fair share of your wealth?
I don't think I've made my point, I know I've made it.
Ignorance like love, is never so blind that one cannot lift the binding 'round one's head to sneak a peak at the real world. I have just raised it for you. You are welcome. ;D
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The Republicans balanced the budget in 4 years, something the Dems didnt do for 40 years before that. The spending they did in the last decade was no ideal but far better than the Dems record. Both Dems and Republicans are responsbile for subsidies to corporations - because of lobbying and votes. Even if you raised taxes on "the rich" and got rid of those subsidies, you would at most save $100 billion a year, which is not even close to getting the deficit down. If you raised taxes on only the true rich and left upper middleclass families out, you would save only $10 billion.
okay,..you say the Republicans balanced the budget....what years was that???..I don't remember that happening
you said that the Democrats hadn't balanced the budget in 40 years...Bill Clinton did so...he gets the credit....not the senate or congress
you said both Dems and Repubs are responsible for spending...same thing I said basically....okay the Dems are responsible too...but it doesn't lessen the culpability of the Repubs who are big spenders as well
your figures are low in terms of subsidies and help for the rich...between 1995 and 2009, the gov't paid a quarter of a trillion dollars to rich farmers alone!!!!!
http://farm.ewg.org/summary.php
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Gallup: Obama's Weekly Job Approval Ties Term Low of 43%
Gallup.com ^ | July 25, 2011 | by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama averaged a 43% job approval rating for the week of July 18-24, tied for the lowest weekly average of his administration. Obama's rating at this point is lower than President Bill Clinton's ratings were in the fall of 1995 when he was embroiled in a budget dispute similar to the one Obama faces now.
Clinton's job approval rating was above 50% during most of the shutdown, and continued at that level from February 1996 through the November election, which he won. Obama's job approval ratings in recent weeks have been significantly lower.
(Excerpt) Read more at gallup.com ...
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sort of like the pot calling the kettle black with your worship of Palin and her numerous mistakes and gaffes
bump
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I HAVE TOLD YOU, I LIKE HER BECAUSE ON THE ISSUES THAT MATTER SHE UTTERLY DESTROYS TYPHOID BARRY.
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I HAVE TOLD YOU, I LIKE HER BECAUSE ON THE ISSUES THAT MATTER SHE UTTERLY DESTROYS TYPHOID BARRY.
LIKE QUITTING?
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LIKE QUITTING?
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LMAO...
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One and done
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
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YES - ONE AND DONE.
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Re: Still think Obama is a one term president????
yes
yes i do
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
Wow! High 30's on the way.
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
Wow! High 30's on the way.
Once he is in the mid 30s and stays there, he is dead. Unless, a RINO runs against him.
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he is a one term president and its his fault..
his watered down pseudo republican Bush policies did it.
he should have nutted up from the start.. told republicans.. "you did this shit and look at us now"... Shut the fuck up.. its my thing now bitch
Instead... with health care.. he let idiot ass republicans run the scare tactics and not go with the original plan.. he lost..
the cuts/entitlements thing... he fucked that up.. let idiot ass republicans who think money just appears with out any revenue, bargain him out of that decision.
Everyone calls this guy liberal but this guy isnt.. he is so pseudo repub its not funny.. the last true liberal was forced out of washington for showing his wang on twitter..
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He had two years of all dems. He wasted his presidency on obamacare, cap n trade, spending like a lunatic, etc.
He has no one to blame but himself for his predicament.
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Obama was too liberal even for his own party.
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I think he is going to be asked not to run by his own party.
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He had two years of all dems. He wasted his presidency on obamacare, cap n trade, spending like a lunatic, etc.
He has no one to blame but himself for his predicament.
333 - why do you ignore that fact that the Dems do not have the hive mind of Repubs and many so called "blue dogs" voted against their party
Even more significant - why do you completely ignore the fact that the Repubs in the Senate blocked everthing and used the filibuster much more than any other time in history to block anything they could
why do you ignore these FACTS adn just pretend the Dems could have done anything they wanted in the first 2 years?
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333 - why do you ignore that fact that the Dems do not have the hive mind of Repubs and many so called "blue dogs" voted against their party
Even more significant - why do you completely ignore the fact that the Repubs in the Senate blocked everthing and used the filibuster much more than any other time in history to block anything they could
why do you ignore these FACTS adn just pretend the Dems could have done anything they wanted in the first 2 years?
How did they get obamacare?
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I think he is going to be asked not to run by his own party.
you also told us if we pursued operation gunrunner against the ATF, "the government would probably collapse".
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How did they get obamacare?
They made sure they got a certain number of Republicans to vote for it as well, removing the filibuster by invoking cloture I'm guessing.
I am not an ultimate knowledge of the this myself, but it sounds reasonable.
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I think he is going to be asked not to run by his own party.
you think alot of crazy things
just another one to add to the list
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How did they get obamacare?
are you joking
you really don't remember?
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How did they get obamacare?
The numerical representation of obamacare is negative 333386. (333386).
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are you joking
you really don't remember?
Name me the republicans that voted for obamacare.
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Name me the republicans that voted for obamacare.
why don't you look them up
and what is your point
are you admitting to the fact that the Dems really couldn't do much given the Repubs use of filibuster in the Senate?
are you actually admitting you're aware of reality?
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Name me the republicans that voted for obamacare.
Joseph Cao
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why don't you look them up
and what is your point
are you admitting to the fact that the Dems really couldn't do much given the Repubs use of filibuster in the Senate?
are you actually admitting you're aware of reality?
no - just saying that when they really wanted something - they got it.
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Name me the republicans that voted for obamacare.
the 18% of 2004 GOP voters that stayed home in 2008.
They are responsible for obamacare. he promised to do it. And you lazy shites stayed home because your VP was defeated in 72 seconds by Katie Couric.
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the 18% of 2004 GOP voters that stayed home in 2008.
They are responsible for obamacare. he promised to do it. And you lazy shites stayed home because your VP was defeated in 72 seconds by Katie Couric.
Really - please show me the clip from 2008 in the campaign where obama promised an individual mandate to buy insurance from a private carrier.
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Really - please show me the clip from 2008 in the campaign where obama promised an individual mandate to buy insurance from a private carrier.
I'll look for it. I think it was actually from 2004 with the guy you voted for in 2008.
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no - just saying that when they really wanted something - they got it.
so by that standard Obama and the Dems must not really have wanted the things they didn't get or they just could have willed them to happen?
the filibuster would not have mattered at all?
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I'll look for it. I think it was actually from 2004 with the guy you voted for in 2008.
I refer you to Skips rules again.
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I refer you to Skips rules again.
you don't even have a clue what Rob is talking about do you?
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you don't even have a clue what Rob is talking about do you?
Yes I do. Try again - please show me where Obama promised an individual mandate as part of health care.
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so by that standard Obama and the Dems must not really have wanted the things they didn't get or they just could have willed them to happen?
the filibuster would not have mattered at all?
The Republicans didnt have the fillibuster the first year and the second year they didnt have it in defacto terms either because of Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Scott Brown, and Arlen Spechter.
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They made sure they got a certain number of Republicans to vote for it as well, removing the filibuster by invoking cloture I'm guessing.
I am not an ultimate knowledge of the this myself, but it sounds reasonable.
What happened is that the Senate had already voted on a version of Obamacare that the House had not yet approved BEFORE the GOP had gotten the 41st vote to forge a filibuster. After the GOP got the 41st vote the Democrats got the house approved plan through the Senate again with a "reconilliation" vote, which only requires a majority vote but is only used on simple budget bills. It was highly unethical and contreversial . Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare. If people are going to support this freakshow of an administration, the least they can do is get thier facts straight.
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To put it lightly, I'm not an Obama supporter.
But he WILL get re-elected again. He's going to get the black vote again, latino vote, the young liberal 20 somethings will vote for him again.
I hope the Republicans are kidding when they mention Trump as a potential candidate. Does he have ANY political experience? Trump is almost as liberal as Obama is!
Really?
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If you were smart enough you'd know that there will be a psychological effect and Obama will be God like status again and this will stimulate the economy and gas prices will be lowered....All Hail President Obama!!!!!!!! The man and president will lead us all to glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh?
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What crimes against the American tax payer? He extended tax cuts for the rich a move he regretted and will not do again. Rich need to be taxed big time 2x what they get taxed now. Unemployment isn't that big of a problem because people can stay on unemployment and receive benefits for almost 2 years, so people are satisfied. Obama 2012!
YEEEAARRRRHHHHHHH!!!!!
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president barak huseein obama will be elected second term as united states president,,
congratulations, ,
job well done,,
great president,,
2 terms,,
again congratulations
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riigggggghhttt.
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relax,,
a president is mesured by what he achieve,,every president has a list for its time,,1 to 10...obama failed everything but he achieved number 1 on the list ,, that = second term ,,
no matter how you hate the fella,,no matter how not qualified he was,,THIS! made him qualified,,
this is not matter of discussion ,,gas prices can be 6 dolaros it wont matter,,
obama finished osama...end!
for that kind of a win ,,which is always followed closely and approve by president since they ask him if he want him dead or alive,,he chose dead ,,for that he will get second term and most likley get in history ofo usa as good president
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It doesnt look like it now does it?
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What happened is that the Senate had already voted on a version of Obamacare that the House had not yet approved BEFORE the GOP had gotten the 41st vote to forge a filibuster. After the GOP got the 41st vote the Democrats got the house approved plan through the Senate again with a "reconilliation" vote, which only requires a majority vote but is only used on simple budget bills. It was highly unethical and contreversial . Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare. If people are going to support this freakshow of an administration, the least they can do is get thier facts straight.
That's not true. One Republican from Louisiana did vote for it.
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That's not true. One Republican from Louisiana did vote for it.
He did that LONG after the Dems got the majority they needed, in order to look good for his district.
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It doesnt look like it now does it?
i sure dont want him another term ,, but americano people are stupid ,, they go by the vibe of the moment,, you never know what they will do ,, they go by internet histerias and naked whores,, they just dumb people so you never know ,, i myself almost refused citizenship when offered it i only took it because i like the land,, cant stand the americanos now day
gh15 approved
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He did that LONG after the Dems got the majority they needed, in order to look good for his district.
I'm not saying otherwise, but he DID vote for it.
That's just a fact.
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Yes - obama is done.