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Diaz is has an unpredictable style that can really give GSP some problems, mainly psychologically. Everything about GSP is so calculated that an unpredictable fighter like Diaz can really screw with him
Diaz is also not afraid to take some shots in order to get his hands on GSP.
If nothing else, Diaz can make for an exciting GSP fight.
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I wouldn't mind seeing this. I think Diaz can hang on the ground with gsp, at least in terms of JJ.
I don't know what's next for GSP. Perhaps marquardt if he drops.
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Marquardt already has a fight lined up with Anthony Johnson on UFC Versus 4 6/26
I like the idea of Diaz vs GSP.
You got one guy (Diaz) who hasn't had a boring fight in years.
You got one guy (GSP) who hasn't has an exciting fight in years.
This makes for a good fight!
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Marquardt/Rumble will (should) be a slugfest.
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I hope this fight happens, but Diaz has no chance in hell of wining. Wrestlers are his kryptonite. It's why lost so many UFC fights.
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Marquardt/Rumble will (should) be a slugfest.
They said that about Rumble & Hardy, but Rumble unfortunately doubted himself in the stand up.
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It's why lost so many UFC fights.
or maybe it was because he was 20 years old and not 1 tenths the fighter he is today...
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or maybe it was because he was 20 years old and not 1 tenths the fighter he is today...
Really? He lost against other guys his age like Diego Sanchez. Do you really think his wrestling has improved enough to stuff the GSP take down? This would be a boring fight. 25 minutes of GSP laying on Diaz.
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Really? He lost against other guys his age like Diego Sanchez. Do you really think his wrestling has improved enough to stuff the GSP take down? This would be a boring fight. 25 minutes of GSP laying on Diaz.
The thing with Diaz is, GSP would not have one glaring weakness in Diaz to expose. Diaz has good stand-up and good ground skills.
But GSP's solution could be LnP for 25 minutes.
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The thing with Diaz is, GSP would not have one glaring weakness in Diaz to expose. Diaz has good stand-up and good ground skills.
But GSP's solution could be LnP for 25 minutes.
Diaz does have a major glaring weakness...his wrestling! This fight would have a lot of great hype going into it, but would be 25 minutes of GSP laying on Diaz.
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Diaz does have a major glaring weakness...his wrestling! This fight would have a lot of great hype going into it, but would be 25 minutes of GSP laying on Diaz.
Do you think GSP would keep it standing or will he think it's safer to take it to the ground, seeing that Diaz is strong in JJ and could possibly submit GSP?
This is what makes me like this match-up. There is no real 'safe' area for GSP. Diaz can be dangerous in all aspects.
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Do you think GSP would keep it standing or will he think it's safer to take it to the ground, seeing that Diaz is strong in JJ and could possibly submit GSP?
This is what makes me like this match-up. There is no real 'safe' area for GSP. Diaz can be dangerous in all aspects.
He would probably put a game plan together that worked. Look at the last BJ fight. He took him to the ground with no fear of getting submitted (BJ has better BJJ than Diaz). After he tired him out, he picked him apart on his feet. Who knows what kind of game plan he would have. I'm sure it will involve exposing Nick's poor wrestling...
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He would probably put a game plan together that worked. Look at the last BJ fight. He took him to the ground with no fear of getting submitted (BJ has better BJJ than Diaz). After he tired him out, he picked him apart on his feet. Who knows what kind of game plan he would have. I'm sure it will involve exposing Nick's poor wrestling...
Diaz is taller and has better cardio than BJ, so that changes things a bit. His chin is solid as well.
Overall, I see this match-up as being needed for bothe fighters and has many possibilities of being an exciting fight.
There are risks for each fighter, no matter where it ends up. Both of these guys have been fighting nearly one dimensional opponents recently.
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Diaz is taller and has better cardio than BJ, so that changes things a bit. His chin is solid as well.
Overall, I see this match-up as being needed for bothe fighters and has many possibilities of being an exciting fight.
There are risks for each fighter, no matter where it ends up. Both of these guys have been fighting nearly one dimensional opponents recently.
Nick has been fighting a bunch of StrikeForce cans. You know that as well as anyone. GSP has dominated and/pr finished every top 170lb foighter...some twice. I don't think Nick would get past Kos or Fitch, let alone GSP. They should make him fight a few times in the UFC before getting a title shot. Same thing they've done with Condit...
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Nick has been fighting a bunch of StrikeForce cans. You know that as well as anyone. GSP has dominated and/pr finished every top 170lb foighter...some twice. I don't think Nick would get past Kos or Fitch, let alone GSP. They should make him fight a few times in the UFC before getting a title shot. Same thing they've done with Condit...
Normally I would say he should earn his title shot with a couple wins in the UFC, but due to the lack of viable contenders that GSP hasn't beaten, a GSP vs Diaz fight makes sense right now. Just for the entertainment value alone.
It's a win/win situation for the fans. Either GSP get's beat, and we have an exciting, reckless champ, or Diaz gets destroyed and quits MMA for good. I'm pretty tired of the ghetto shit from Diaz to be honest. Who doesn't like to see a punk get his ass whooped?
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Normally I would say he should earn his title shot with a couple wins in the UFC, but due to the lack of viable contenders that GSP hasn't beaten, a GSP vs Diaz fight makes sense right now. Just for the entertainment value alone.
It's a win/win situation for the fans. Either GSP get's beat, and we have an exciting, reckless champ, or Diaz gets destroyed and quits MMA for good. I'm pretty tired of the ghetto shit from Diaz to be honest. Who doesn't like to see a punk get his ass whooped?
I agree. I guess we're back to being a gimmick...
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I like the idea of this fight, but realistically i dont see Diaz being able to pull it off ( win ).Id like to see him beat GSP personally but i dont think he has the tools.GSP is too smart.He wont stand n box with Nick.I dont think theres any area where Nick is better than GSP either.Even boxing or JJ theyre not miles apart, and although GSP looked shit against Shields he always gets the job done
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I like the idea of this fight, but realistically i dont see Diaz being able to pull it off ( win ).Id like to see him beat GSP personally but i dont think he has the tools.GSP is too smart.He wont stand n box with Nick.I dont think theres any area where Nick is better than GSP either.Even boxing or JJ theyre not miles apart, and although GSP looked shit against Shields he always gets the job done
I agree, I don't think Diaz has what it takes to beat GSP, but I think he's the next best match-up that GSP has not already beaten.
I would be happy with whomever wins this fight.
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I think Marquardt would push the fight with him.
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I think Marquardt would push the fight with him.
from what I hear, GSP toys with him during sparring...
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from what I hear, GSP toys with him during sparring...
Really? That's interesting. If true, why would Nate move to 170 only to know that he'd get schooled in a championship fight? Then again, who knows whether they'd fight each other or not.
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Really? That's interesting. If true, why would Nate move to 170 only to know that he'd get schooled in a championship fight? Then again, who knows whether they'd fight each other or not.
I think Nate believes that by the time he got a title shot, GSP would have vacated the title.
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Nate would make GSP struggle to get his usual UD
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Nate would make GSP struggle to get his usual UD
I think Nate needs to have a fight at 170 before we can start speculating. Nate is another 'safe" fighter, and my bet is a fight with GSP would be one of the worst selling PPV title fights in UFC history.
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Nate would make GSP struggle to get his usual UD
25 minutes of Nate laying on his back...guaranteed.
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25 minutes of Nate laying on his back...guaranteed.
Gsp wouldnt get out of there without an elbow gash
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GSP is a huge pussy? Spoken like a true Strikeforce ballhugger.
;D
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Lacy to fight MMA star Diaz
Former IBF super middleweight champion Jeff “Left Hook” Lacy officially signed on the dotted line to face Strikeforce champion Nick Diaz, who wants to pursue a professional boxing career in addition to his mixed-martial arts title reign. The boxing match will take place in the Fall of 2011. Promoter Don Chargin states, “This is a very dangerous fight for both men. Not only is this fight dangerous but stylistically it is very intriguing. I expected more resistance from fight fans and media in regards to this match-up but its amazing as to the hundreds of calls and e-mails I’ve received from fans on both sides wanting to see this match-up take place. I’ve received more than a few inquiries from some other very high-profile boxers that want to step up and fight Nick. It’s been a real whirlwind….I’ve been around boxing for quite some time and I’ve seen a lot of great, tough fighters in my six decades within the sport. I believe that if Nick had been one of those kids who had picked up boxing from a youth, he’d undoubtedly be a world-champion today. Sometime within the next 2 weeks I’ll be personally making the trek to Cesar Gracies gym to setup a private, closed door sparring session between Nick and a few nameless top-level contenders I have in mind.”
so I'll only assume that now that the paperwork is done, this is going to be in direct conflict of any contract Nick would need to sign with the UFC to ever fight GSP...
in other words it looks like Nick is out of the running for a fight with George for now.
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Personally, I think this is a ploy to get Uncle Dana to put some big money up if he wants Diaz to fight GSP.
Diaz is a lot smarter than we are giving him credit for here. GSP really has no other 'promotable' opponents at WW besides Diaz.
Otherwise, without Diaz, you have a boring champ with a boring opponent, and a fight nobody will to pay to see.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/05/06/unless-bout-with-st-pierre-materializes-soon-diaz-will-box-lac/ (http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/05/06/unless-bout-with-st-pierre-materializes-soon-diaz-will-box-lac/)
While boxing promoter Don Chargin told MMA Fighting on Friday that both Diaz and Lacy have signed bout agreements to face one another in a boxing match later this year, Diaz's manager, Cesar Gracie, said Diaz has a contract with Chargin, but has yet to sign a specific bout agreement for this fight.
"Nick has a signed contract but is waiting to sign an actual bout agreement," Gracie wrote in a text message on Friday afternoon. "We are only waiting to see if Zuffa is serious about a Diaz-GSP fight."
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any idea how many fights nick has on his existing strikeforce/zuffa contract ?
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Diaz will get put on his back every round, as soon as he commits to those punches GSP will change levels and take him down and avoid sub attempts for 5 rounds in another GSP point style decision. I like Nick, but there is a reason Strikeforce and EliteXc kept him away from guys who can wrestle and just kept feeding him stand up fighters.
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any idea how many fights nick has on his existing strikeforce/zuffa contract ?
I'm not certain, but I think I remember it being 6 that he signed before the last Noons fight.
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Diaz will get put on his back every round, as soon as he commits to those punches GSP will change levels and take him down and avoid sub attempts for 5 rounds in another GSP point style decision. I like Nick, but there is a reason Strikeforce and EliteXc kept him away from guys who can wrestle and just kept feeding him stand up fighters.
Good post. You know your shit, man.
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Diaz will get put on his back every round, as soon as he commits to those punches GSP will change levels and take him down and avoid sub attempts for 5 rounds in another GSP point style decision. I like Nick, but there is a reason Strikeforce and EliteXc kept him away from guys who can wrestle and just kept feeding him stand up fighters.
Hard to give him a wrestler, when there were really none to give him in WW. I'll admit that Diaz has shown a weakness to wrestlers, but his skill level has changed greatly over the past few year.
That being said he's been beating cans for the past few years, and most likely will get crushed by GSP.
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Northern California - Mixed Martial Arts Champion, Nick Diaz will continue pursuing his Mixed Martial Arts career instead of professional boxing as it has been deemed that it be in Nick's best interest to focus on his primary combat sport and profession.
Team Diaz had contemplated transitioning over to the boxing world in a legitimate attempt to pursue a high-level boxing career. These discussions began in 2009 with long-time boxing promoter, Don Chargin and proceeded up until recent times.
Never before in the history of both sports had a pound-for-pound MMA combatant in his prime had the desire or been contractually free to attempt to transition over to boxing.
The landscape of Mixed-Martial Arts moves at a rapid pace and while Diaz's chance to make history, becoming the first true cross-over MMA star to enter the boxing ring, an opportunity arose for Nick to make a different sort of history in his primary field of fighting.
Don Chargin states, "Nick is a good kid and a very exciting fighter.* Right now he has an opportunity of a lifetime as it pertains to his MMA career.* While I don't doubt that Nick and his team were serious about taking the big step into boxing, it only makes sense for him to finish what he started and see how far he can go in MMA before he does anything in boxing.* It's all about timing... we began these discussions over two years ago and nobody would have imagined the type of demand that there currently is for Nick as a mixed martial artist."
Cesar Gracie (Nick's manager) states, "There are some people that have said we were just posturing to go into professional boxing and they don't understand that this thing is something we had been working on since 2009.* It wasn't just out of nowhere but at this point in time, there's a certain chance that comes along once in a very long while and it only makes sense to stick to MMA as of right now.* Nick's been working really hard to get to this point in his MMA career and it wouldn't make sense for us to make that transition into boxing right now.* If this were a couple months ago or if certain fights had played out differently, we'd definitely be ready to go into boxing, but that's not how it played out.* Don Chargin is a great boxing promoter and he understood our dilemma completely and I thank him for that."
While the intrigue for the proposed Nick Diaz-Jeff Lacy bout had drawn a massive amount of media interest in its rumored status, this type of cross-over match-up will have to take place at a later date.
Diaz's MMA career will undoubtedly have some major changes within a short while as he's ready to transition into the next phase of his fighting career.
Don Chargin continued, "I've had a long promotional career filled with numerous big events dating back the 1960s.* Taking Nick Diaz into boxing would have undoubtedly been a big one but this is Nick's career and his legacy as a MMA fighter needs to be solidified now.* I wish him all the luck going forward and know that Zuffa will have itself one very exciting fighter for many years to come."
Nick had stated in a previous interview that the only thing at this point that would keep him interested in MMA was a fight for more money against GSP. Rumors are already starting to swirl about him being next in line for GSP and the fight possibly taking place towards the end of the year in Canada. There are already betting odds out on the rumored match up out as well with GSP opening as the heavy favorite.
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I guess I don't know what to say here. GSP should be able to dismantle Diaz easily.
I'm against GSP being forced to move into different weight classes.. but without it, 170 is becoming a boring division.
Oh, and i think it's kinda bs that GSP always seems to get these fights in canada. Just my .02 cents.
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I guess I don't know what to say here. GSP should be able to dismantle Diaz easily.
I'm against GSP being forced to move into different weight classes.. but without it, 170 is becoming a boring division.
Oh, and i think it's kinda bs that GSP always seems to get these fights in canada. Just my .02 cents.
I agree, Nick has better boxing and BJJ is pretty close between the two.....but GSP's wrestling and his defensive BJJ should be the telling tale here in this fight. Nick is gonna come out and look to bang and GSP is gonna change levels and take him down repeatedly while avoiding the occasional sub attempt. GSP in another 5 round point fight is the likely outcome. I look forward to the smacktalk and stare down more than the fight itself lol.
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Maybe it's just b/c I really hate the kid's stupid grimace, but I don't even put Diaz in the same ball park as GSP. I think he would get DISMANTLED. And I don't understand this talk about him boxing, his punches have never impressed me.
He got his ass kicked in the UFC. Diego Sanchez beat him when Diego was just starting out coming off TUF. I think GSP would kill Diaz in a stand up fight or any other kind of fight. Honestly, I don't think Diaz could beat Anthony Rumble Johnson, I think Johnson would crack him in the jaw and knock him out cold. I think Jon Fitch would beat him too, as well as Kos and probably 3 or 4 other welterweights in the UFC.
Seems like a lot of people like Diaz as a fighter, but I just don't see it. I think he'd get killed if he tried to fight a boxer in a boxing match and I think he'd get killed in the UFC.
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gut feeling tells me we'll see GSP try to prove a point and bang with Nick....
everyone know nicks weakness's and strengths and something tell's me GSP will try and prove a point...
Nick may have good hands but nobody's ever called him "heavy handed", so if nick does win the stand up for a period of time GSP can always fall back on what he (and everyone else) knows.......
this fight isn't worth waiting till the fall though !
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Marquardt/Rumble will (should) be a slugfest.
No way will Rumble stand. Nate has a reputation for power strikes going back a long way. Might be a Cheal Sonnen impersonator that turns up on the night.
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Probably in houston...discuss.
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it's good thing that Diaz is back in the UFC, but I don't give him much of a chance..
I seriously doubt he'd even be in line for a title shot if he was fighting UFC fighters for the last 2 years...
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Its gonna be in vegas not houston
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well that changes everything then.....
I think Diaz is gonna kick his ass !
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Hes crazy enough to pursue GSP and force him to fight, in other words GSP will HAVE to go for a finish one way or the other. Potentially his most exciting fight since regaining the belt IMO, but ultimately i see GSP winning. Is Jackson still the only guy to have finished Diaz (actually finish - not cuts)? I dont think GSP will get the TKO but a very entertaining points decision could be on the cards.
BTW i would love to see Diaz win, it opens up a whole new dimension in regards to fights and the ability to get the belt to change hands a'la the LHW belt (if GSP doesnt get an immediate rematch).
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I give Diaz as much of a shot as I gave Matt Sera.
GSP will have to finish him-- or at least fight.
Gameplan should go out the window. On sheer talent alone GSP should annihilate Diaz. However, Greg Jackson has him fighting like a fucking ballerina. Pulling something like that against Diaz is either going to result in a loss or a really dissipointing win. Either way his rep is going to be tarnished.
If Georges fights Diaz he should win easily. If he is cautious, he may lose.
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Signed. Late October.
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No one can beat gsp, topic closed
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GSP is not even worth watching anymore, the guy should have his earnings cut by Dana White, for the last 5 fights he's gone the exact same route, the safe route.. that's not how a champion fights, in my opinion he's become a complete loser in the cage, afraid to do anything but jab from the outside and the occasional takedown , he plays it so safe that he's become the most boring fighter in the UFC. 5 rounds of the same shit everytime, and then he has the nerve to apologize to t he fans EVERY FUCKING TIME and he says the exact same shit 'Oh I am sorrreee to my fans for putting on such a boring fight' all you can expect from him anymore is 5 round decision.
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At least it won't be another 25 minute MMA fight. This fight will not go the distance. :D
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theres an mma board, dicknose.
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Nick Diaz FTW
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theres an mma board, dicknose.
;D There's also an ironing board Nancy.
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LMAO!
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GSP is not even worth watching anymore, the guy should have his earnings cut by Dana White, for the last 5 fights he's gone the exact same route, the safe route.. that's not how a champion fights, in my opinion he's become a complete loser in the cage, afraid to do anything but jab from the outside and the occasional takedown , he plays it so safe that he's become the most boring fighter in the UFC. 5 rounds of the same shit everytime, and then he has the nerve to apologize to t he fans EVERY FUCKING TIME and he says the exact same shit 'Oh I am sorrreee to my fans for putting on such a boring fight' all you can expect from him anymore is 5 round decision.
GSP does not have knock out power. And for this reason he is afraid to really commit to a stand up game. So ALL his fights will always go the same way. At least with anyone who possess a decent defense against take downs and subs. I don't think Nick has what it takes to concur GSP so itll be another walk and talk 5 round decision
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GSP lost a lot of explosivness and strenght when took up gymnastics to train for his last fight (Rush fitness). If he trains the same way for Diaz as he did for Sheilds, he'll get killed. Diaz is strong, explosive and one tough mother f**ker.
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GSP lost a lot of explosivness and strenght when took up gymnastics to train for his last fight (Rush fitness). If he trains the same way for Diaz as he did for Sheilds, he'll get killed. Diaz is strong, explosive and one tough mother f**ker.
I'm sorry, but Diaz is nowhere near GSP in terms of fight caliber.
Many critics are finding this match-up to be comical at the very least.
Diaz is in no way comparable to GSP, not in skillset and certainly not in penis size.
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Skill wise I agree, not very people are the same caliber as GSP, but again, it may come down to strength and power (explosivness) which GSP lost in that last fight.
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Lay and pray FTW!
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GSP does not have knock out power. And for this reason he is afraid to really commit to a stand up game. So ALL his fights will always go the same way. At least with anyone who possess a decent defense against take downs and subs. I don't think Nick has what it takes to concur GSP so itll be another walk and talk 5 round decision
Exactly, he's never had the ability to finish fights, so he takes everything to decision, and he's too much of a bitch to move up 10lbs. and face Silva because he knows he's going to get murdered. So instead he's hogging the division and taking every fight to decision with 5 rounds of boring ass bullshit
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The one thing diaz brings here is unpredictability. Gsp likes control and when fighters come out of nowhere at him you get things like the serra ko and the Matt Hughes armbar.
The real challenger with world class credentials at ww is nate the great. Will see how he adjusts to the cut from a big mw
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I'm sorry, but Diaz is nowhere near GSP in terms of fight caliber.
Many critics are finding this match-up to be comical at the very least.
Diaz is in no way comparable to GSP, not in skillset and certainly not in penis size.
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i agree. coach has no idea what he is talking about
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GSP should run some nolva... he has gyno from the intense test prop pining...
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GSP is not even worth watching anymore, the guy should have his earnings cut by Dana White, for the last 5 fights he's gone the exact same route, the safe route.. that's not how a champion fights, in my opinion he's become a complete loser in the cage, afraid to do anything but jab from the outside and the occasional takedown , he plays it so safe that he's become the most boring fighter in the UFC. 5 rounds of the same shit everytime, and then he has the nerve to apologize to t he fans EVERY FUCKING TIME and he says the exact same shit 'Oh I am sirree to my fans for putting on such a boring fight' all you can expect from him anymore is 5 round decision.
He just brought 50 000 people to an MMA event, that's most then the last 2 records combined, he smashed all paper view records...and if you think it was anybody but him, you're delusional. Ya I understand he is boring, but if he had an event next week it would sell out and that's the bottomline, from a business point of view he is worth every penny Dana has given him. But everything else you wrote, I agree.
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He just brought 50 000 people to an MMA event, that's most then the last 2 records combined, he smashed all paper view records...and if you think it was anybody but him, you're delusional. Ya I understand he is boring, but if he had an event next week it would sell out and that's the bottomline, from a business point of view he is worth every penny Dana has given him. But everything else you wrote, I agree.
fantastic
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I hope gsp dies in the cage. How does this guy have fans still.
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I give Diaz as much of a shot as I gave Matt Sera.
GSP will have to finish him-- or at least fight.
Gameplan should go out the window. On sheer talent alone GSP should annihilate Diaz. However, Greg Jackson has him fighting like a fucking ballerina. Pulling something like that against Diaz is either going to result in a loss or a really dissipointing win. Either way his rep is going to be tarnished.
If Georges fights Diaz he should win easily. If he is cautious, he may lose.
Excellent synopsis.
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The thing that makes Diaz an interesting opponent for GSP's safe style is the fact that there's no real safe place to fight Diaz. Sure, GSP may use his wrestling, which has been a weak point for Diaz, but Diaz has a great ground game, so there is still risk. IMO, I think Diaz has pretty comparable stand-up and Diaz is not afraid to get hit and can take a punch. If Diaz starts landing the jabs on GSP, he way very well take this fight. We all know GSP does not like and it not used to getting punched.
I think Diaz has a great chance at beating GSP. I think Diaz is a handful for many reasons and just the guy to make GSP fight if nothing else.
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GSP does not have knock out power. And for this reason he is afraid to really commit to a stand up game. So ALL his fights will always go the same way. At least with anyone who possess a decent defense against take downs and subs. I don't think Nick has what it takes to concur GSP so itll be another walk and talk 5 round decision
wrong nicks stand up is great his ground game is the same submissions are his game gsp might not want to take nick down he submits guys from his back..
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Rooting for Diaz, probably for the first time. :o
Unfortunately, I see a long night of take downs, with GSP passing Nick's guard and issuing a beat down mostly from side mount. Hopefully the fight won't be stopped on cuts.
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Rooting for Diaz, probably for the first time. :o
Unfortunately, I see a long night of take downs, with GSP passing Nick's guard and issuing a beat down mostly from side mount. Hopefully the fight won't be stopped on cuts.
Diaz has truly made me a fan over the years. His "bad-attitude" has made him unlikeable at times, but in the end, he's the one that made out. He's getting his big money and title shot straight out of Stikeforce and has created one of the most anticipated/fan requested fights in a long time.
IMO, Diaz knew what he was doing all along playing his "bad attitude" character.
I can't remember the last time I saw a boring Diaz fight.
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I'd love to see Diaz win, but it's not happening anytime soon.
There always is a puncher's chance though.
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No way will Rumble stand. Nate has a reputation for power strikes going back a long way. Might be a Cheal Sonnen impersonator that turns up on the night.
Rumble is OUT.
Rick Story will beat be fighting Nate.
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I think GSP will go for the 25 minute lay and pray, but Diaz is so good off his back, the takedowns might be playing into his strengths.
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Rumble is OUT.
Rick Story will beat be fighting Nate.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/06/02/ufc-books-rick-story-vs-nate-marquardt-for-june-26/ (http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/06/02/ufc-books-rick-story-vs-nate-marquardt-for-june-26/)
Oh shit! Almost as excited about that as Condit v Lytle. Which probably means it also won't happen. Story will have to moderate his take downs as Nate won't let the counter slip-by.
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If GSP was a bouncer and he told me I couldn't go into a club, I'd slap the cum from his rotten French teeth and probably slap his girlfriend to. He is the worst 'champion' in UFC history, and a disgrace to the spot.
Hopefully Diaz will annihilate the stinking maggot.
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Story is fighting Marquardt? Oh brother. Story really now has his hands full.
If he is somehow able to get by Marquardt, which won't happen unless Nate has some issue cutting, he absolutely deserves a shot.
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If GSP was a bouncer and he told me I couldn't go into a club, I'd slap the cum from his rotten French teeth and probably slap his girlfriend to. He is the worst 'champion' in UFC history, and a disgrace to the spot.
Hopefully Diaz will annihilate the stinking maggot.
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Mark my words. Diaz is going to knock St.Pierre out via a shitload of unorthodox punches that lead up to one mild punch that just buckles the french canadian. It may not even be a head shot. Possibly a body shot like the one that buckled Frank Shamrock. Nick Diaz wins via Stockton Gang Signs.
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GSP is not even worth watching anymore, the guy should have his earnings cut by Dana White, for the last 5 fights he's gone the exact same route, the safe route.. that's not how a champion fights, in my opinion he's become a complete loser in the cage, afraid to do anything but jab from the outside and the occasional takedown , he plays it so safe that he's become the most boring fighter in the UFC. 5 rounds of the same shit everytime, and then he has the nerve to apologize to t he fans EVERY FUCKING TIME and he says the exact same shit 'Oh I am sorrreee to my fans for putting on such a boring fight' all you can expect from him anymore is 5 round decision.
well in boxing simulation video games you are better off just jabbing than taking a chance and throwing too many punches. so i say his style is pretty intelligent
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fantastic
LOL
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Beefy: who else took it in the pooper from the pros .. better yet: who didn't?
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;D There's also an ironing board Nancy.
BOOOOM. tommy by KO in the 7th post. I'll bet he didn't see that one coming. ;D
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BOOOOM. tommy by KO in the 7th post. I'll bet he didn't see that one coming. ;D
you're like a faggish cheerleader
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GSP lost a lot of explosivness and strenght when took up gymnastics to train for his last fight (Rush fitness). If he trains the same way for Diaz as he did for Sheilds, he'll get killed. Diaz is strong, explosive and one tough mother f**ker.
are you kidding? Diaz is not an elite. A good fighter? yes. A great, no. GSP dominates him every round. Diaz wouldn't even defeat half of GSP's victims the past couple of years.
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well that changes everything then.....
I think Diaz is gonna kick his ass !
Quit being gay, I was just assuming they were going to add this to the card that's coming to my neck of the woods the first weekend of October, It's gonna be the winner of JDS/Carwin vs. Cain in Houston for the strap.
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are you kidding? Diaz is not an elite. A good fighter? yes. A great, no. GSP dominates him every round. Diaz wouldn't even defeat half of GSP's victims the past couple of years.
This is sad. He sold out from a real trainer.
http://www.gsprushfit.com/?gclid=CJj-oc-hmqkCFQEQbAod02cAtQ
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yea, that is pretty gay. GSP may beat himself if he keeps letting all of this fame shit get in his way.
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Other than a freak upset like we saw with Serra, Diaz has no chance in hell with GSP. In fact, Diaz would not get through the UFC's top welterweights like Fitch, BJ, Koschek, etc.
Nonetheless, GSP has completely cleaned out the 170lbs division and all that we have left are overhyped cans like Diaz.
I know everyone, myself included, wants to see GSP demolish his opponents in spectacular fashion. But, winning is more important that flashy finishes. GSP knows this. And, that is why we will see a 5 round bump & grind decision win for GSP.
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If GSP was a bouncer and he told me I couldn't go into a club, I'd slap the cum from his rotten French teeth and probably slap his girlfriend to. He is the worst 'champion' in UFC history, and a disgrace to the spot.
Hopefully Diaz will annihilate the stinking maggot.
epic jealousy & homoerotic fantasies ::)
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Other than a freak upset like we saw with Serra, Diaz has no chance in hell with GSP. In fact, Diaz would not get through the UFC's top welterweights like Fitch, BJ, Koschek, etc.
Nonetheless, GSP has completely cleaned out the 170lbs division and all that we have left are overhyped cans like Diaz.
I know everyone, myself included, wants to see GSP demolish his opponents in spectacular fashion. But, winning is more important that flashy finishes. GSP knows this. And, that is why we will see a 5 round bump & grind decision win for GSP.
Totally agree. I think it's actually funny they're calling this a "super-fight". Come on! Give me GSP vs. Anderson Silva and you can call it a Super-fight. Diaz is so fucking outmatched in the UFC.
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Other than a freak upset like we saw with Serra, Diaz has no chance in hell with GSP. In fact, Diaz would not get through the UFC's top welterweights like Fitch, BJ, Koschek, etc.
Nonetheless, GSP has completely cleaned out the 170lbs division and all that we have left are overhyped cans like Diaz.
I know everyone, myself included, wants to see GSP demolish his opponents in spectacular fashion. But, winning is more important that flashy finishes. GSP knows this. And, that is why we will see a 5 round bump & grind decision win for GSP.
Diaz an overhyped can? Dont judge him on his previous performances in the UFC, he wasnt half the fighter he is now. I firmly believe he would beat Koschek, Johnson, Hardy, Lytle etc, it would be a decent match with Fitch and he'd force GSP into a fight he doesnt want. If GSP is going to look to see this one out comfortably hes facing the wrong guy. Im not saying Diaz will walk through him or even win, but this is a bad matchup for GSP going by his last 6 fights.
If Dana didnt think he was ready he wouldnt have made this fight, i honestly thought Shields would present something of a challenge but from the moment he walked out he was like a hedgehog staring at a tank steaming at him @ 100MPH. Diaz doesnt give 2 shits who you are when he gets in there and that is why i think this fight isnt straight forward to predict.
BTW GSP v Silva would end very badly for GSP, Anderson should be looking to fight the LHW elite rather than bullying a much smaller GSP. GSP would have to work his way through 2 - 3 fights at 185 before he was physically ready for that ass whooping.
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The best possible candidates to fight GSP in his division are Fitch and Koz. They both took beatings prior. I'd like to see a Fitch rematch though.
Marquardt could be interesting for GSP. Nate is athletic too. I'd say much faster and stronger as well, and an excellent striker. I'd like to see this match up.
As for Diaz, he will be absolutely embarrassed here... and believe me, he knows that.
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If GSP was a bouncer and he told me I couldn't go into a club, I'd slap the cum from his rotten French teeth and probably slap his girlfriend to. He is the worst 'champion' in UFC history, and a disgrace to the spot.
Hopefully Diaz will annihilate the stinking maggot.
Hes an athlete that fights what do you expect.
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Diaz an overhyped can? Dont judge him on his previous performances in the UFC, he wasnt half the fighter he is now. I firmly believe he would beat Koschek, Johnson, Hardy, Lytle etc, it would be a decent match with Fitch and he'd force GSP into a fight he doesnt want. If GSP is going to look to see this one out comfortably hes facing the wrong guy. Im not saying Diaz will walk through him or even win, but this is a bad matchup for GSP going by his last 6 fights.
If Dana didnt think he was ready he wouldnt have made this fight, i honestly thought Shields would present something of a challenge but from the moment he walked out he was like a hedgehog staring at a tank steaming at him @ 100MPH. Diaz doesnt give 2 shits who you are when he gets in there and that is why i think this fight isnt straight forward to predict.
BTW GSP v Silva would end very badly for GSP, Anderson should be looking to fight the LHW elite rather than bullying a much smaller GSP. GSP would have to work his way through 2 - 3 fights at 185 before he was physically ready for that ass whooping.
Yep...he is overhyped. Who has he beaten? Even he himself says that he's been fighting a bunch of cans. If he had worked his way through the UFC's top 5, then he would be a legit contender. GSP will dismantle him. He will say it was all BS because GSP laid on im for 5 rounds and then he'll be nothing more than a gate keeper.
And, if there's a dollar to be made, Dana will put anyone in there. Did you not see the James Tony fight ::)
Oh, and I would be on GSP in a matchup against Silva...
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The Toney fight didnt interest me ata ll but i watched it to see just how badly Randy would beat him up. A very professional job by Randy however, he could very well have made an example out of him and battered him senseless.
Fighting cans and being a can is a different matter, i really believe that Diaz is a worthy contender and this makes for an interesting matchup - much better than Fitch & Kos. If Fitch cant beat BJ then he has no room to be demanding main event fights only, hes good but BJ is past his best (although still top 5) & GSP is a shadow of his former self mentally. As for Kos, he has a near negative IQ and would be stupid enough to get back in there only to have the other side of his face dismantled.
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I don't think Nick is a legit contender but that's all we have and I am looking forward to this bout. I like to watch Nick and Nate. Both are real thugs. Real fighters. Still doesn't change the fact that GSP will dominate Nick....
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Quit being gay, I was just assuming they were going to add this to the card that's coming to my neck of the woods the first weekend of October, It's gonna be the winner of JDS/Carwin vs. Cain in Houston for the strap.
you don't have to explain yourself dipshit !
;D
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I don't think Nick is a legit contender but that's all we have and I am looking forward to this bout.
I think he's a contender because now they can play the Strikeforce V UFC card but I agree.....I seriously have my doubts about him being in there with GSP if he was fighting UFC welters for the last 3 years....
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you don't have to explain yourself dipshit !
;D
I wasn't, I was just lookin for an opportunity to throw out that little tidbit of info I got in regards to the winner of JDS/Carwin fighting Cain on October 8th in Houston, but anyways...GSP by 5 round snoozer.
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I think it'll be an interesting fight. Diaz is an amusing personality, but he has a face i'd never tire of punching.
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I think it'll be an interesting fight. Diaz is an amusing personality, but he has a face i'd never tire of punching.
Yeah cos youd be able to land loads of punches on him from your keyboard......
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Yeah cos youd be able to land loads of punches on him from your keyboard......
lol. That's funny. I am looking forward to his post fight rant about how GSP wouldn't fight him. He just laid on him.
What's going to happen to the StrikeForce belt? Not that it matters, but will the titles be united?
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GSP is not even worth watching anymore, the guy should have his earnings cut by Dana White, for the last 5 fights he's gone the exact same route, the safe route.. that's not how a champion fights, in my opinion he's become a complete loser in the cage, afraid to do anything but jab from the outside and the occasional takedown , he plays it so safe that he's become the most boring fighter in the UFC. 5 rounds of the same shit everytime, and then he has the nerve to apologize to t he fans EVERY FUCKING TIME and he says the exact same shit 'Oh I am sorrreee to my fans for putting on such a boring fight' all you can expect from him anymore is 5 round decision.
Hmmmm....in his last few fights, GSP has finished BJ Penn, finished Matt Serra, demolished Fitch and demolished Koscheck. Koscheck still can't fight because the left side of his face is still numb. I do agree that the Dan Hardy & Jake Shields fights were not the most exciting. But it's not GSP's fault. He has the belt and those guys want it. It's up to them to go in there an take it. Why should GSP risk everything just so that you can be entertained? It's no different from when Anderson fought Leites. Leited flopped to the ground every time Anderson came at him. And, Anderson wouldn't go down there with him. If Leites wanted the belt, he needed to get in there and take it.
The bottom line is that there is not a single man at 170 that can even come close to beating GSP. Not a single one. He is that much further ahead than everyone else.
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Hmmmm....in his last few fights, GSP has finished BJ Penn, finished Matt Serra, demolished Fitch and demolished Koscheck. Koscheck still can't fight because the left side of his face is still numb. I do agree that the Dan Hardy & Jake Shields fights were not the most exciting. But it's not GSP's fault. He has the belt and those guys want it. It's up to them to go in there an take it. Why should GSP risk everything just so that you can be entertained? It's no different from when Anderson fought Leites. Leited flopped to the ground every time Anderson came at him. And, Anderson wouldn't go down there with him. If Leites wanted the belt, he needed to get in there and take it.
The bottom line is that there is not a single man at 170 that can even come close to beating GSP. Not a single one. He is that much further ahead than everyone else.
Demolished doesn't equal finished. I want a KO, or a TKO by GSP. He NEVER does that. He is totally boring to watch. In fact, i'm starting to resent him for not trying to finish fights and just playing defense for a win.
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Demolished doesn't equal finished. I want a KO, or a TKO by GSP. He NEVER does that. He is totally boring to watch. In fact, i'm starting to resent him for not trying to finish fights and just playing defense for a win.
He is fighting the best of the best! Guys that are next to impossible to finish. How many people have finished Fitch? How many have finished Shields? No body! And, GSP has plenty of finishes. 58% of his wins are finishes.
Stop hating :) lol
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You make a good point Spin.
I just hate that it seems as though he could indeed finish fights but is too defensive to, for the sake of not losing.
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Look at how hard he tried to finish Fitch...
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Does this look like he's not trying to finish? This fight should have been stopped...
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Koz and Fitch are warriors indeed. Those are definitely tough for any fighter to finish.
But look at his record. He should've and probably could've finished many more fighters.
Maybe he needs to hit the weights a little and develop better power. IDK. Just sick of GSP. Looking to see a match up with Marquartd in the future.
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My problem with GSP is he goes 50%, he never goes all in, or even close to 100% he always does the pussy thing and waits out for a decision with lame ass jabs and a take down every once in a w hile, I think it's become a pre-programmed pattern for him, jab jab jab, cross, jab jab , move left to right , jab jab, takedown
Someone needs to light a fire under his ass, or get his pussy ass to step up to 185 where it's obvious he'll get killed.
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My problem with GSP is he goes 50%, he never goes all in, or even close to 100% he always does the pussy thing and waits out for a decision with lame ass jabs and a take down every once in a w hile, I think it's become a pre-programmed pattern for him, jab jab jab, cross, jab jab , move left to right , jab jab, takedown
Someone needs to light a fire under his ass, or get his pussy ass to step up to 185 where it's obvious he'll get killed.
your math is way off, read your own post
He goes 50% and slaughters the best there is in the 170, but it's obvious he will get killed in 185
This is the biggest contradiction I have ever heard. Someone that give 50% and cleans out a division would obviosly not get killed in the 185....reality, he would probably clean house there too with the exception of silva
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your math is way off, read your own post
He goes 50% and slaughters the best there is in the 170, but it's obvious he will get killed in 185
This is the biggest contradiction I have ever heard. Someone that give 50% and cleans out a division would obviosly not get killed in the 185....reality, he would probably clean house there too with the exception of silva
Boom!
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lol. That's funny. I am looking forward to his post fight rant about how GSP wouldn't fight him. He just laid on him.
What's going to happen to the StrikeForce belt? Not that it matters, but will the titles be united?
Good point bro.Im curious about all this as well.Its all a bit confusing to me as to how the belts are going to work ???
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My problem with GSP is he goes 50%, he never goes all in, or even close to 100% he always does the pussy thing and waits out for a decision with lame ass jabs and a take down every once in a w hile, I think it's become a pre-programmed pattern for him, jab jab jab, cross, jab jab , move left to right , jab jab, takedown
Someone needs to light a fire under his ass, or get his pussy ass to step up to 185 where it's obvious he'll get killed.
Damn right, he fights anyone bigger and tougher than him he'll get killed. Anderson and Sonnen would murder GSP and turn his face into burger meat, after they break his fragile spirit.
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your math is way off, read your own post
He goes 50% and slaughters the best there is in the 170, but it's obvious he will get killed in 185
This is the biggest contradiction I have ever heard. Someone that give 50% and cleans out a division would obviosly not get killed in the 185....reality, he would probably clean house there too with the exception of silva
You're wrong, most of the 185 guys have vicious knockout power (Henderson, Wanderlei, Bisping, etc)
something GSP has never had nor will ever have, he hits about as hard as a mosquito
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Damn right, he fights anyone bigger and tougher than him he'll get killed. Anderson and Sonnen would murder GSP and turn his face into burger meat, after they break his fragile spirit.
What are you on about exactly? 'bigger and tougher then him' ::) Isnt it kind of obvious anyone bigger and tougher than a guy would beat you up? FFS ::)
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You're wrong, most of the 185 guys have vicious knockout power (Henderson, Wanderlei, Bisping, etc)
something GSP has never had nor will ever have, he hits about as hard as a mosquito
GSP has finished plenty of guys with big KO power. But what does that matter anyway. They can't get to him. He DOMINATES! At 185, GSP would walk through most of the division. It's the weakest division in the UFC.
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GSP has finished plenty of guys with big KO power. But what does that matter anyway. They can't get to him. He DOMINATES! At 185, GSP would walk through most of the division. It's the weakest division in the UFC.
I think George would carry 185 and not skip a beat physically,and while I think Anderson would punish him standing up,Sonnen and Stan would be interesting fights for the obvious two different reason (Sonnen on the ground and Stann's stand up)
other than that it's a pretty shallow division for George !
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My problem with GSP is he goes 50%, he never goes all in, or even close to 100% he always does the pussy thing and waits out for a decision with lame ass jabs and a take down every once in a w hile, I think it's become a pre-programmed pattern for him, jab jab jab, cross, jab jab , move left to right , jab jab, takedown
Someone needs to light a fire under his ass, or get his pussy ass to step up to 185 where it's obvious he'll get killed.
I used to think the same, but i figure he's just learnt to pace himself and be methodical rather than take risks and make himself vulnerable. I still remember the matt hughes fight where he went for a kimora and matt switched into a devestating armbar sub. After the fight gsp was all "i don't know why i tried for it - we didn't practice that in training.". Not denying it makes for dull fights, just that gsp wants to be exciting, but he also wants to win. The guy might be the first president of the disunified franco-canadian republic if he spends long enough in the spotlight.
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Hmmmm....in his last few fights, GSP has finished BJ Penn, finished Matt Serra, demolished Fitch and demolished Koscheck. Koscheck still can't fight because the left side of his face is still numb. I do agree that the Dan Hardy & Jake Shields fights were not the most exciting. But it's not GSP's fault. He has the belt and those guys want it. It's up to them to go in there an take it. Why should GSP risk everything just so that you can be entertained? It's no different from when Anderson fought Leites. Leited flopped to the ground every time Anderson came at him. And, Anderson wouldn't go down there with him. If Leites wanted the belt, he needed to get in there and take it.
The bottom line is that there is not a single man at 170 that can even come close to beating GSP. Not a single one. He is that much further ahead than everyone else.
LOL, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE'RE PAYING $70 A PAY PER VIEW FOR !?!? for him to constantly
get half assed wins by decision?!? are you fucking all there man, our ppv buys pays his salary so he can like in a nice mansion and drive a ferrarri, hell yeah I expect him to give it ALL
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LOL, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE'RE PAYING $70 A PAY PER VIEW FOR !?!? for him to constantly
get half assed wins by decision?!? are you fucking all there man, our ppv buys pays his salary so he can like in a nice mansion and drive a ferrarri, hell yeah I expect him to give it ALL
Wow.. you're getting ripped off.