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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The_Leafy_Bug on May 09, 2011, 07:58:51 PM
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14 weeks out... looken pretty fat here. A little worried but my closest advisors aren't and think im fine. I spent a few weeks trying to atleast touch 208 or greater before dieting back down. I got there the other night.... im hoping i can grow into a larger weight. I am really liking the dorian yates side tri so i made a tribute. Time to turn my foods from dirty to clean. Going to try about 3200 calories this year and see how that works. Last year i went to 2700. 14 weeks out from the State show. 17 from the other.
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Looking awesome as usual
can't wait to see the crazy conditionning you get in this year 8)
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is Noel still doing your diet ?
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Looking awesome as usual
can't wait to see the crazy conditionning you get in this year 8)
Yours were much better... 220 and already in good condition. I hate marathon runner genetics.... (take that as you will ;))
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is Noel still doing your diet ?
Yes... I do my own diet program and everything. Noel just gives me suggestions for the most part and is there for me when i start going psycho and get too hard// down on myself. I actually need him. He also tells me what i should do with my water etc... usually i want to go overboard and do something crazy if i listen to the wrong people. Basically having him is like having me train myself in a clear state of mind. Great relationship there.
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Here is where i was at last year at 17 weeks out. I was much leaner but only got up to around 195-200. I am hoping i can be atleast 190 this year dieted down... i can usually squeeze some last minute growth in as i diet down. I seem to only grow when i diet... never knew why.
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Up the dosage leafbug >:(
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For your height and only weighing 208 your lookin pretty thicke!
Great Ary@n genetics right there bro!
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looking big for that bodyweight
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Up the dosage leafbug >:(
Indeed. Things might be slightly disappointing this year. The unemployment for 3 months, mono, etc.. did not further my cause. I hate to make excuses so i want to see if i can't pull this one out and impress getbig again. This is my competition for the year. He will be hard to beat. If i don't end up heavier or atleast bigger looking at the same weight im going to be tempted to throw this year in the gutter.
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145 pounds without drugs.
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145 pounds without drugs.
BOOM BITCH More like 220 with out them. Take that shitstinky and go to your thai hut that smells of cooked dog and cat!@
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BOOM BITCH More like 220 with out them. Take that shitstinky and go to your thai hut that smells of cooked dog and cat!@
Already on drugs there.
You degenerate, drug injecting piece of shit.
Go to an NA meeting and get your life turned around.
Be a natural champion like "Big" BFRS. Stupid cunnt.
Potatos and milk is all I need to get swole. But unlike you, i'm a real man.
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You really should focus on your chest.
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You really should focus on your chest.
I agree... Focused on it all year. I've done heavy, light, etc... All the weight just ends up in my delts. It looks thick from the side but when i hit a front lat spread it disappears and looks thin. :-\
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Already on drugs there.
You degenerate, drug injecting piece of shit.
Go to an NA meeting and get your life turned around.
Be a natural champion like "Big" BFRS. Stupid cunnt.
Potatos and milk is all I need to get swole. But unlike you, i'm a real man.
You are irrelevant on this site. Just another gnat that will disappear in time. :)
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I agree... Focused on it all year. I've done heavy, light, etc... All the weight just ends up in my delts. It looks thick from the side but when i hit a front lat spread it disappears and looks thin. :-\
I have a theory........
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I have a theory........
his nipples are developing quite nicely, whats the problem?
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his nipples are developing quite nicely, whats the problem?
Nipples are no good without tits!!
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You are irrelevant on this site. Just another gnat that will disappear in time. :)
Looks like you were about 145 pounds in 2007.
That's your natural, clean build.
Stop doing the drugs and you'll be back to that in 6 months. Just admit it.
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i didnt approve it,,,
but! this fella when in condition has THE BEST build on getbig.com amatuer history ,,better than matt t,,not size btu over all build!
if you could only grow this same way...but for that you need to start doing exactly opposite of what noelie tell you ,,no serious bodybuilder had guru back in the day ,,you need to know YOURSELF what you do from your own trial and error,,
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i didnt approve it,,,
but! this fella when in condition has THE BEST build on getbig.com amatuer history ,,better than matt t,,not size btu over all build!
if you could only grow this same way...but for that you need to start doing exactly opposite of what noelie tell you ,,no serious bodybuilder had guru back in the day ,,you need to know YOURSELF what you do from your own trial and error,,
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um no
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you will be a pro and GOOD pro if putting on 20lb of this quality,,you will be pro at 200lb maybe even slightly lighter,,
very impressive when in condition just 20 lb over tad bit of muscle diameter on each muscle,,right now you wipe floor with 250lb fellas
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um no
umm yes,, he has the best amatuer build on getbig.com history,,remember comparing to what he take! comparing to age...comparing to the years he is in it...this fella is the best build on this site..not the biggest he is not big but conditioned size ...and symetric very very symetric ,,and tiny ass waist,,and really pull good illusion of being musch bigger,,and he is quite thick for his size,,he can be monster at 200lb on stage ,,this is pro card for sure with 20 extra lean lbs
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umm yes,, he has the best amatuer build on getbig.com history,,remember comparing to what he take! comparing to age...comparing to the years he is in it...this fella is the best build on this site..not the biggest he is not big but conditioned size ...and symetric very very symetric ,,and tiny ass waist,,and really pull good illusion of being musch bigger,,and he is quite thick for his size,,he can be monster at 200lb on stage ,,this is pro card for sure with 20 extra lean lbs
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he looks mediocre at best on stage
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umm yes,, he has the best amatuer build on getbig.com history,,remember comparing to what he take! comparing to age...comparing to the years he is in it...this fella is the best build on this site..not the biggest he is not big but conditioned size ...and symetric very very symetric ,,and tiny ass waist,,and really pull good illusion of being musch bigger,,and he is quite thick for his size,,he can be monster at 200lb on stage ,,this is pro card for sure with 20 extra lean lbs
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I see you've been practicing your spelling. :)
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he looks mediocre at best on stage
balonie,, he looks very very good ,,rip girl whatever her name is loerie? she saw it first with this kid,, i never actualy followed it ,,she saw it first and she know her bodybuild,,i am telling you this fella can be pro,,he is the best build on getbig.com amatuer ,,
again he is not bodybuil 2000 big as in the monster you see on stage with guts to china...he is more of a frank zane version and can be MUCH MUCH bigger ,,this is pro card at 200lb ,,he has better leg potential than zane..he is really good build,,
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up the tren dosage and focus on blowing up the back and chest. you will slay em.
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I see you've been practicing your spelling. :)
little bit,, i try ,,coach sent me hook on phonix like he promised ::)
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get that tad of gyno on the right pec under control and you'll be square
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get that tad of gyno on the right pec under control and you'll be square
Why worry about it so early ?
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good luck bro!
btw what's your macros intake for now?
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gh15 don't talk like that cuz u don't know all members here.
he's looking good but hes not the best build in this forum,many members looking good too.
thats just in my opinion sir.
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GH15 meant to say best looking build after yours.
me? lol - no
many members here looks wayy better,not gonna mention any names but c'mon gimme a break.
anyway the guy looks good, like gh said 10-15 kilos of lean mass will make him looks at his best for his height.
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Would a physique like this in the pictures below be able to get to 4 to 6% bodyfat in 5 weeks? What is this guys bodyfat in the pictures and could he get down to 4% I looked it up online and the guy was 238 when these pictures were taken here.
If he looks like this in pictures at 238, should they still be shooting to come on stage at 200 to 210 to get to that 4% bodyfat?
The bodyfat looks low but how would you really know when you are near 4% bodyfat? Any help would be greatly appreciated
Didn't mean to steal your thread by the way man...so sorry if it seems like that but just had a question
How tall are you?
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5'9"
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5'9"
Get your numbers right and we can talk about it bro. ;D
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hahaha i wont even lie i was getting ready to put 5'10" but im really 5'9.5"
Oh here we go with the ".5's" again, lol. ;)
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:) Its all good I'll own all that 5'9" dont want to be looked at as a liar but just looking for straight critique on what weight i'd need to be on stage at to be at 4% bodyfat if I'm 238 in the pictures about though.
All these fucking "hypotheticals?" ???
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Would a physique like this in the pictures below be able to get to 4 to 6% bodyfat in 5 weeks? What is this guys bodyfat in the pictures and could he get down to 4% I looked it up online and the guy was 238 when these pictures were taken here.
If he looks like this in pictures at 238, should they still be shooting to come on stage at 200 to 210 to get to that 4% bodyfat?
The bodyfat looks low but how would you really know when you are near 4% bodyfat? Any help would be greatly appreciated
Didn't mean to steal your thread by the way man...so sorry if it seems like that but just had a question
its sub 6 % ,,this is 10lb from comeptition weight,,doesnt lok 238 maybe but mayybe its because you stand alone and lack some density and thickness for that weight,,in any case this condition at 238lb = 228lb on stage ...should be if you dial in final few weeks right,,
this is not NOT 200lb on stage...you show me here bodybuild in condition already for photoshoot if lose 5lb,, the lower back will come moment you lose 5-7lb its already there but the fibers will show clearer
225-228 on stage
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ther problem is that it doesnt look like 238!,,something in the thickness and density ,,might be water fountain from within the muscle due to insulina usage and gh...really hard to tell in those picture,,this fella look like he would make damage at light heavy class..aka 197-205lb on stage,,yet the numbers given to me is of super heavy,,and there is no gut...
might be because fella is standing alone,, but from whatevrr he is in the picture he need to lose 10lb to be in best condition if insulina has not been used,,if insulina has been used it is more complicated and more weight will have to be lost to see the best condition ,, never the less this IS sub 6% bodyfat when it comes to straight out bodyfat
what prevent the lines to be complettely cleat is the little bit of water
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its sub 6 % ,,this is 10lb from comeptition weight,,doesnt lok 238 maybe but mayybe its because you stand alone and lack some density and thickness for that weight,,in any case this condition at 238lb = 228lb on stage ...should be if you dial in final few weeks right,,
this is not NOT 200lb on stage...you show me here bodybuild in condition already for photoshoot if lose 5lb,, the lower back will come moment you lose 5-7lb its already there but the fibers will show clearer
225-228 on stage
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I realized as I was dieting down that I really do not have that density for the number on the scale which confuses the heck out of me honestly. I figured you always talked about leaving insulin as your last thing to use so i have not used it because you always talk about getting bodyfat as low as possible BEFORE touching it otherwise you would get fat and how you need that foundation there first.
I think this may be why the density is just not there but I haven't really been competing for very long which may be another reason for the lack of density. Is there anything you can really do for that thickness and density besides weight training or is this just using different compounds over time. Guess I'm not really too sure what to do from here after dieting down to develop that density honestly.
For some reason the glutes and hamstrings are just taking forever to come in but they may just end up coming in last for me.
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I realized as I was dieting down that I really do not have that density for the number on the scale which confuses the heck out of me honestly. I figured you always talked about leaving insulin as your last thing to use so i have not used it because you always talk about getting bodyfat as low as possible BEFORE touching it otherwise you would get fat and how you need that foundation there first.
I think this may be why the density is just not there but I haven't really been competing for very long which may be another reason for the lack of density. Is there anything you can really do for that thickness and density besides weight training or is this just using different compounds over time. Guess I'm not really too sure what to do from here after dieting down to develop that density honestly.
For some reason the glutes and hamstrings are just taking forever to come in but they may just end up coming in last for me.
heavy lifting ,,halo,,masterona
offseason ghiher doses testosterona with masterona as the anti estrogen rather than arimidex or nolvadex ,,use masterona as anti estrogen
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Back in the day, Ed Connors would have told these champions to use LESS, gh15. FUCK OFF.
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leafy, dude, your traps are insane... i'm beyond jealous!!!
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Pro potential!!
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Back in the day, Ed Connors would have told these champions to use LESS, gh15. FUCK OFF.
yes ,,if you want to sit 187.5 lb on stage at 5'10 use less,,that is lovely competition weight ,,light heavy,,but can you do damage with it today? no,, in 1978 you could...now day you cant,,i actualy believe in lower dose if it was common to all ,,much prefer samir and chris dickerson and young dorian physiqes....but today if you go on stage like leaf fella 182lb 5'11... you cant do damage in higher show even if you look as good as him ,,you still cant do damage,,195-200lb yes ,,180-185...too light for this height for higher level comeititon ,,local yes you can go onstage 180 and win the all thing,,but you talk national ,,
what i say to this fella is he need 20lb not 20 kilograms,,20 lb...and he can step and win pro card
20lb of muscle is a lot ,,5lb of muscle is a lot,,hell 3 lb of lean muscle is a lot
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balonie,, he looks very very good ,,rip girl whatever her name is loerie? she saw it first with this kid,, i never actualy followed it ,,she saw it first and she know her bodybuild,,i am telling you this fella can be pro,,he is the best build on getbig.com amatuer ,,
again he is not bodybuil 2000 big as in the monster you see on stage with guts to china...he is more of a frank zane version and can be MUCH MUCH bigger ,,this is pro card at 200lb ,,he has better leg potential than zane..he is really good build,,
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correct.
Leafy Bug is ripitupbaby approved 8)
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leafy what does your cycle look like? looks like you might have a bit of puffiness around the nips?
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Plenty of time to beat your conditioning of last year. Are you going up against Joe again this year? I assume he will be exactly as he was last year so its time to take him out. Use him as the ruler to measure your progress by.
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14 weeks out... looken pretty fat here. A little worried but my closest advisors aren't and think im fine. I spent a few weeks trying to atleast touch 208 or greater before dieting back down. I got there the other night.... im hoping i can grow into a larger weight. I am really liking the dorian yates side tri so i made a tribute. Time to turn my foods from dirty to clean. Going to try about 3200 calories this year and see how that works. Last year i went to 2700. 14 weeks out from the State show. 17 from the other.
I've from the start said... If anyone can be a pro,it will be Leafy.. ! Don't know if that's what you want,but you absolutely have the potential to be,if you wanted to.. Awesome build.. Keep at it.
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balonie,, he looks very very good ,,rip girl whatever her name is loerie? she saw it first with this kid,, i never actualy followed it ,,she saw it first and she know her bodybuild,,i am telling you this fella can be pro,,he is the best build on getbig.com amatuer ,,
again he is not bodybuil 2000 big as in the monster you see on stage with guts to china...he is more of a frank zane version and can be MUCH MUCH bigger ,,this is pro card at 200lb ,,he has better leg potential than zane..he is really good build,,
gh15 approved
Wormie Approved!
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Only LeafyBug can get away with posting pics in a thong/oiled up - God Speed.
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Looking good Leafystud
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Leafy always looks great come contest time.
Dude has an excellent physique.
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Plenty of time to beat your conditioning of last year. Are you going up against Joe again this year? I assume he will be exactly as he was last year so its time to take him out. Use him as the ruler to measure your progress by.
No he will not... I talked to him in the gym the other day though. He is through with bodybuilding. He still promotes the natural shows though and hosts fitness conventions. Thanks all for the support. I will try not to let you guys down for a 5th year in a row.
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No he will not... I talked to him in the gym the other day though. He is through with bodybuilding. He still promotes the natural shows though and hosts fitness conventions. Thanks all for the support. I will try not to let you guys down for a 5th year in a row.
Has it been 5 years already? Where has the time gone?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375818.0;attach=413021;image)
Look great here. All you need is a darker tan and better backdrop (like arnie on top of a mountain, instead of in front of a toilet). That silhouette is classic bodybuilding.
**edited to add: i have a feeling that i said almost this exact same thing the last time i saw this picture***
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I used to post here regularly a few years ago, and I remember your old pics. Your physique was great back then, but seeing this thread years later, I was surprised to see how much bigger you are. Keep up the hard work; very inspiring.
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Plenty of time to beat your conditioning of last year. Are you going up against Joe again this year? I assume he will be exactly as he was last year so its time to take him out. Use him as the ruler to measure your progress by.
LOL what the fuck do you know.
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LOL what the fuck do you know.
I know that you are obese and most likely will die soon.
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Definite pro material. Without a doubt.
In fact I'd go as far as to say .... The Leaf has better potential than S. Reeves at his best.
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Definite pro material. Without a doubt.
In fact I'd go as far as to say .... The Leaf has better potential than S. Reeves at his best.
lol i wouldnt go that far...more of a zane type that can be grown into mini denis wolf but more of zane type,, reeves was better tha both zane and wolf,, used much less too,,that generation is looooooooong gone
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5'10" at 195-200lbs wouldnt do shit at the Nationals..to skinny..even shredded at 3-4 %...5'10" 200lbs at a national qualifier would possibly do good..225lbs and up do decent at the nationals with shredded glutes..but 200lbs Nooooooooo waaaay..Maybe 15-20 years ago...
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5'10" at 195-200lbs wouldnt do shit at the Nationals..to skinny..even shredded at 3-4 %...5'10" 200lbs at a national qualifier would possibly do good..225lbs and up do decent at the nationals with shredded glutes..but 200lbs Nooooooooo waaaay..Maybe 15-20 years ago...
5'10 195 can win national in americana ,,easily if in the right condition ,,they always wipe floor with larger fellas ,,ALWAYS,,all the insulina gh fellas that walk around 240lb 5'9 then cut to 207lb and look like complete shit with big guts on stage...all of them dont count,,a 5'10 195 symetric and proportionate with great condition and tight waist and no insulina usage can and will win national taking a pro card ,,back in 2000 and so is today ,,
it all depends on how the fella look ,,in leaf bug case he will look great at 195lb in great condition and look like shit at 215 lb its a promise,, and just to add to this ....for anyone to be 210 215 225 on stage the usage of insulina is a must ,,no ifs and no buts,,
the usage of insulina ruin physiqes it blures condition ,,it blow you from within but mainly in the gut ,,it doesnt give you the ability to get shredded,,a good pro will turn pro with out the usage of insulina,,a bad pro wil turn pro with a lot of insulina
thats the diff my friends
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actually leafys physique looks alot like basilles when he was younger.
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5'10 195 can win national in americana ,,easily if in the right condition ,,
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Ummmm..No ..5'10" 195lbs in contest shape is way to skinny for nationals and wont win a pro card now..Like I said Maybe 15-20 years ago but a 5'10" lightheavy is to small for nationals..Iam 5"10"...I was competing at 200-210 --and yes Shredded with good Physique small waste and very tight in mid 90s and winning state level and national qualifying shows with ZERO Ins and GH...
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Ummmm..No ..5'10" 195lbs in contest shape is way to skinny for nationals and wont win a pro card now..Like I said Maybe 15-20 years ago but a 5'10" lightheavy is to small for nationals..Iam 5"10"...I was competing at 200-210 --and yes Shredded with good Physique small waste and very tight in mid 90s and winning state level and national qualifying shows with ZERO Ins and GH...
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again ,,,you can win if you had goo denough physiqe,,you did not,,thats why you didnt,,sometime one think they do but they dont,,having good physiqe include having the right frame for this 195 to look like 215 220....many middle eqsterns are good exaqmple...shari kamali is good exampel,, they need to win pro card at 197 inorder to make aqny damage..moment they blpw up to 220 they look liek shit,,,they grow offsesson to this weigt and size,,but moment they go up to 220 + competition weight and start using insulina past 200 like any bodybuilder...they look like shit,,
reason you didnt get pro card is simple,,you were nto good enough,,i seen many times 190lb fellas wipe floor with 205 fellas even when same condition ...
for EXAMPLE rodrigez would wipe floor with any phyqie you woudl bring up even at your 210lb ... why? condition and flow in his case...
many other examples,,
today and then you can win pro card at 195lb ,,if you are good you are good and you wil be good among others no matter your weight...ofcourse you do need to make the class and try to be the toppest of the class weight...thats a given
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Hey, GH! OK ... I gotta agree with you about the Leaf's build being somewhat similar to Zane's
above and beyond my statement comparing him to Reeves.
YOU have a good eye when it comes to bodybuilding. GH, but I gotta add here that I disagree with you entirely about your belief regarding Reeves and roids.
I knew and worked with Steve since he was about 18 years old if my memory serves me correctly. I also knew George Eifferman and many others of that era.
I guess you can say, "I was in the loop." (A very small 'loop' back then.)
In those days the entire world was entirely different .... as well as the people who resided in it.
It was sort of a Victorian atmosphere. Or maybe I can explain it better by simply saying that we were all a lot more modest.
It was before the age of free love, Rock n' Roll, hippies, beatniks, marijuana, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones and every sort of drug that is so common now-a-days.
All of the above contributed in their own small way producing a completely different environment which is impossible for me to expalin adequately .... Probably better to sit down with your grandfather and let him talk about the days when he was a young kid.
Back then the word 'bodybuilding' was a relatively unknown term.
Those who were familiar with that word were more than likely lifting weights in their home town YMCA who noticed the strange guy who came in regularly who wasn't too damn interested in showing how much he could bench or lift overhead. He was the guy who looked in the mirror a lot to make sure that everrything was in the right place .... or so the other Y members thought.
In brief ... those who trained as bodybuilders were rare and a bit of an outcast.
But gradually things began to change from pretty bad to 'pretty worst' and slowing an uphill improvement.
The "pretty bad" was as I explained above.
The "pretty worst" was when national publications started showing up in the downtown newstands showing photos of 'half naked' men hitting muscular shots for the camera.
I think that there is a list of those original 'muscle mags' posted somewhere here on the internet.
Each a publication that would not be offered for sale in any local neighborhood drug store.
Some publications stuck it our and gradually changed their format but not before the gym business changed completely.
Before the BOOM your gym choices were very limited .... Jack LaLanne's (the original), Yarick's, Golden Gate YMCA. Walt Baptiste's were soon followed by new endeavors that offered chrome plated equipment and personal showers such as the short lived American Health Studios.
But some one other that Jack realized that Jack had something going (was it Wynn Paris?) and opened a good number of Health Clubs bearing jack's name and the business grew by leaps and 'pounds'.
I was there to see this all happen and was an active participant.
As I said ... Things were so much different then! ....
Back east there was an Olympic Lifting Team with connections to a doctor (I'll not name individuals here because I was not there personally but I do know people who were actively involved.... and they talk about those good old days a lot.)
And to the best of my knowledge .... that is where roid use started in the States .... outside of its medical use at Tripler Medical Hospital in Hawaii for WW II burn patients (among other medical use).
And to the best of my knowledge .... (I knew a hell of a lot back them!) ... the use of roids among bodybuilders did not become somewhat known and popular until roughly 1960.
And as you know roids were easily obtained at any pharmacy in the USA back in them good old day. You had no fear of being locked up someplace.)
But most doctors had no idea what roids really were until we'd refer him to the correct page in their PDR.
ANd the AMA was saying that roids were merely a placebo ... meaning that they had no affect on muscle growth.
Sorry for the length of this but here's the important point I want to make.
No one that I ever knew back then kept their roid usage a secret. We would talk openly about it whenever unusual gains were made or noticed. No one was ashamed to say, 'i'm on D and Decca!"
Years later I had a few good conversations with Reeves about the present condition of competitive bodybuilding and he would simply say that the roids ruined it all and that he never used them.
Could he have lied?
Sure, but I seriously doubt it.
I tend to believe him due to the fact that he always spoke with me honestly and realized that I was never adverse to the sensible use of roids ... and also due to the fact that he never did reach his FULL POTENTIAL.
There are some fighting-words up there someplace so feel free to jump in in full battle array.
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Keep it respectful and you have a worthy opponent
Thanks for reading this GH. It may not be GH APPROVED but I hope it allows you to see that times were so much different then.
One last comment .... Steve was not the only "kid on the block" who had an exceptional build, but he was somewhat rare in that he had a great looking face. But there were other youngsters back then who had similar builds due to genetics ..... They were not the type of guy who would strip down and appear 'almost naked ... and sometimes absolutely naked' for a photo taking session.
Steve had an advantage in that he had no quelms about doing either. Plus he had the rare opportunity to be photographed by the likes of Arty Zeller and other physique photographers of his day.
More to say on that last parqagraph, but time is of the essence and this posting is about Leaf whom I personally think can be a major contributor to the world of competitive bodybuilding if he stays with it.
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gh15, what kind of drugs and dosages do you think Steve Reeves was using? Was there much stuff that was really even available in his day?
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again ,,,you can win if you had goo denough physiqe,,you did not,,thats why you didnt,,sometime one think they do but they dont,,having good physiqe include having the right frame for this 195 to look like 215 220....many middle eqsterns are good exaqmple...shari kamali is good exampel,, they need to win pro card at 197 inorder to make aqny damage..moment they blpw up to 220 they look liek shit,,,they grow offsesson to this weigt and size,,but moment they go up to 220 + competition weight and start using insulina past 200 like any bodybuilder...they look like shit,,
reason you didnt get pro card is simple,,you were nto good enough,,i seen many times 190lb fellas wipe floor with 205 fellas even when same condition ...
for EXAMPLE rodrigez would wipe floor with any phyqie you woudl bring up even at your 210lb ... why? condition and flow in his case...
many other examples,,
today and then you can win pro card at 195lb ,,if you are good you are good and you wil be good among others no matter your weight...ofcourse you do need to make the class and try to be the toppest of the class weight...thats a given
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Ur fricken funny---I did win the nationals and get my pro card..Booom!!!!
You Babble on alot..READ AND LISTEN-------------.5'10" at 195 is SMALL....U better have some crazy genetics to win the nats/usa at that height and weight..because I cant name one guy at that height and weight who has won the Nationals/usa in the last 15 years..can you. ??? ::) Maybe 20-30 years ago..
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