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Title: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Howard on May 13, 2011, 01:42:45 PM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: supernick on May 13, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
I agree
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Howard on May 13, 2011, 01:55:42 PM
Cool! care to add or comment on anything from the list?
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Red Hook on May 13, 2011, 02:33:58 PM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.

sounds to me like you walked in a local supplement store (GNC) and the young sales clerk said that you always buy the hardcore stuff behind the glass. Never mind that she could be your grand daughter but she made you feel like a new man and further validated you buying the NO mixed with Creatine hardcore stuff. Have fun on the dark side Howard. Perhaps she will be wife #6
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Howard on May 13, 2011, 02:36:51 PM
sounds to me like you walked in a local supplement store (GNC) and the young sales clerk said that you always buy the hardcore stuff behind the glass. Never mind that she could be your grand daughter but she made you feel like a new man and further validated you buying the NO mixed with Creatine hardcore stuff. Have fun on the dark side Howard. Perhaps she will be wife #6
wtf? does that rambling diatribe have to do with drugged or natural BB.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: dyslexic on May 13, 2011, 02:38:09 PM
It's Fat Nation or Concentration Camp victims.



Not the same.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on May 13, 2011, 02:42:21 PM
sounds to me like you walked in a local supplement store (GNC) and the young sales clerk said that you always buy the hardcore stuff behind the glass. Never mind that she could be your grand daughter but she made you feel like a new man and further validated you buying the NO mixed with Creatine hardcore stuff. Have fun on the dark side Howard. Perhaps she will be wife #6

You made me laugh, Thanks.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: BayGBM on May 13, 2011, 02:54:11 PM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.
:)
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 13, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
Howard reminds me of a guy that doesn't curse calling someone a "crapface" and thinking that he really "told him". he's just so banal
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Primemuscle on May 13, 2011, 03:14:58 PM
The more I workout and the bigger I get, the more other folks look small and out of shape to me. Maybe it is human nature, but I compare myself with guys who are jacked and I work towards looking like them. The bigger I get the bigger the fellows I compare myself to. What is abnormal becomes the norm overtime.

A few years back, I weighed around 185-190 lbs. I was in good shape but not huge at all. I am 5'10 1/2" tall. I am also 66 years old. Since retiring, I hit the gym six days a week for about an hour or so of lifting and then about 30 minutes of cardio. Today, I weigh 217 lbs. My waist is still 34", but my arms are about an 1 1/2" larger than they were and my quads are a bit bigger too. My neck is bigger. What is weird is that I wear the same clothes and they aren't any tighter....well except my dress shirts no longer button up at the neck and they look like I stole them from some kid. LOL. Still, when I look in the mirror or when I compare myself to someone who I think looks good, I see myself as being small. Is this body dysmorphic disorder?

The point is that how we look is relative to the environment we create for ourselves. And sometime before I croak, I want to look like a fucking superhero! Time to go to the gym and exercise more than my fingers.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 13, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
How does "a calorie is just a calorie" fit in?
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 13, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
sounds to me like you walked in a local supplement store (GNC) and the young sales clerk said that you always buy the hardcore stuff behind the glass. Never mind that she could be your grand daughter but she made you feel like a new man and further validated you buying the NO mixed with Creatine hardcore stuff. Have fun on the dark side Howard. Perhaps she will be wife #6


LMAO !!! LMAO !!!!! God, I love GetBig !!!!!
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on May 14, 2011, 01:18:12 AM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.


STFU, "Howard".
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: muscularny on May 14, 2011, 03:34:00 AM
guy once said hes natural because all the drugs he takes are naturally occurring hormones
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: TrueGrit on May 14, 2011, 03:37:00 AM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.

This is the problem...
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Ex Coelis on May 14, 2011, 09:04:44 AM
bodybuilding is the drugs
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Dr Dutch on May 14, 2011, 09:08:25 AM
The more I workout and the bigger I get, the more other folks look small and out of shape to me. Maybe it is human nature, but I compare myself with guys who are jacked and I work towards looking like them. The bigger I get the bigger the fellows I compare myself to. What is abnormal becomes the norm overtime.

A few years back, I weighed around 185-190 lbs. I was in good shape but not huge at all. I am 5'10 1/2" tall. I am also 66 years old. Since retiring, I hit the gym six days a week for about an hour or so of lifting and then about 30 minutes of cardio. Today, I weigh 217 lbs. My waist is still 34", but my arms are about an 1 1/2" larger than they were and my quads are a bit bigger too. My neck is bigger. What is weird is that I wear the same clothes and they aren't any tighter....well except my dress shirts no longer button up at the neck and they look like I stole them from some kid. LOL. Still, when I look in the mirror or when I compare myself to someone who I think looks good, I see myself as being small. Is this body dysmorphic disorder?

The point is that how we look is relative to the environment we create for ourselves. And sometime before I croak, I want to look like a fucking superhero! Time to go to the gym and exercise more than my fingers.
8)
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
The more I workout and the bigger I get, the more other folks look small and out of shape to me. Maybe it is human nature, but I compare myself with guys who are jacked and I work towards looking like them. The bigger I get the bigger the fellows I compare myself to. What is abnormal becomes the norm overtime.

A few years back, I weighed around 185-190 lbs. I was in good shape but not huge at all. I am 5'10 1/2" tall. I am also 66 years old. Since retiring, I hit the gym six days a week for about an hour or so of lifting and then about 30 minutes of cardio. Today, I weigh 217 lbs. My waist is still 34", but my arms are about an 1 1/2" larger than they were and my quads are a bit bigger too. My neck is bigger. What is weird is that I wear the same clothes and they aren't any tighter....well except my dress shirts no longer button up at the neck and they look like I stole them from some kid. LOL. Still, when I look in the mirror or when I compare myself to someone who I think looks good, I see myself as being small. Is this body dysmorphic disorder?

The point is that how we look is relative to the environment we create for ourselves. And sometime before I croak, I want to look like a fucking superhero! Time to go to the gym and exercise more than my fingers.

 ::)  Oh Brother, "Primemuscle" you must be a beast. 
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 14, 2011, 09:48:13 AM
::)  Oh Brother, "Primemuscle" you must be a beast. 

He's old Adonis....you just kinda nod and let them have their pride
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: The True Adonis on May 14, 2011, 09:52:49 AM
He's old Adonis....you just kinda nod and let them have their pride
I guess you are correct.

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/aging-fitness-2.jpg)
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Palpatine Q on May 14, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
I guess you are correct.

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/aging-fitness-2.jpg)


 ;D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: BIG_STI on May 14, 2011, 10:58:41 AM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.

STFU you fat pig
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Primemuscle on August 29, 2011, 01:15:18 PM
He's old Adonis....you just kinda nod and let them have their pride

Not to worry, you'll be old someday too. Hopefully, you'll still keep hitting the weights, like me. While it isn't the "fountain of Youth" it does help one to be old, healthyand in shape as opposed to old, sick and out of shape.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: dyslexic on August 29, 2011, 01:41:17 PM
Someone forgot the "genetic" equation, but I must also concur.


I am living proof.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: apply85 on August 29, 2011, 02:19:56 PM
got a news letter?
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: BayGBM on August 29, 2011, 03:16:33 PM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.

I disagree!  >:(
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Nirvana on August 29, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
fuck bodybuilding,  drug free or enhanced it's all the same
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 29, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
Howard = worst threads on getbig. I want to tear my hair out due to the retardedness.  :D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on August 29, 2011, 04:11:15 PM
Not to worry, you'll be old someday too. Hopefully, you'll still keep hitting the weights, like me. While it isn't the "fountain of Youth" it does help one to be old, healthyand in shape as opposed to old, sick and out of shape.

Just get some test and 10 iu's of GH a day and STFU...... ;D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: el numero uno on August 29, 2011, 04:29:22 PM
Bodybuilders take drugs?  ???
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: ChopperRider on August 29, 2011, 04:42:31 PM
Howard = worst threads on getbig. I want to tear my hair out due to the retardedness.  :D

No kidding.....the Getbig brotherhood, sitting around having a beer, yucking it up, poking fun at each other, generally having a good time. Then along comes Howard, Getbig's version of Officer Farva. An absolute social misfit.



Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 29, 2011, 04:44:46 PM
::)  Oh Brother, "Primemuscle" you must be a beast. 

i bet he gets the most handy j's at the retirement home.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: dyslexic on August 29, 2011, 04:46:34 PM
Howard = worst threads on getbig. I want to tear my hair out due to the retardedness.  :D


Why can't I stop laughing my ass off?
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Dipadidu on August 29, 2011, 09:03:15 PM
this is getbig, some posts are funny, some posts are interesting and some are howards
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: CalvinH on August 30, 2011, 06:33:57 AM

STFU, "Howard".


This.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Howard on August 31, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
Howard reminds me of a guy that doesn't curse calling someone a "crapface" and thinking that he really "told him". he's just so banal
Well golly gee there sport aren't we a silly sally. :-*
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Howard on August 31, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
this is getbig, some posts are funny, some posts are interesting and some are howards
Epic getbig, I can't even try to fix or top this one.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: Wiggs on August 31, 2011, 06:45:39 PM
Howards the guy i. Class no one liked even the tacher but for no reason.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: abijahmaniaco on August 31, 2011, 07:07:32 PM
1. Drug free or enhanced, in the end, it is all the same basic thing...BODYBUILING.
2. Every bodybuilder lifts wts , tries to gain muscle size and/or lose fat at various times during their training.
3. Drugs allow for quicker, more dramatic gains.
4. Pick your path, be honest and enjoy the bodybuilding lifestyle.
5. Being a champion is rare and only a very rare few make it to the top tier.
6. Give a guy's BB claims the bennefit of the doubt unless you have objective evidence that clearly shows he is full of shit.
End of story  ;)  nuff said.
after ten years of hardcore "no drugs bodybuilding", girls can't tell you apart from the next bloke who doesn't even lift weights, and family members ask "do you still lift weights?" you have to ask yourself what is the point? speaking with the voice of experience i assure you THERE IS NO BODYBUILDING WITHOUT DRUGS (hope this helps)
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: the_swami on August 31, 2011, 10:48:59 PM
what i hate about BB is all these fucking liars in gyms who are clearly using steroids but saying they are natural
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: 99 Bananas on August 31, 2011, 11:59:09 PM
Any rational person among bodybuilders can agree with such a thing. The real issue is that the majority of the population interested is primarily retarded and operate on everything but logic. It's hard to even try to relate to most that have anything to do with bodybuilding discussion.

Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 12:03:15 AM
wtf? does that rambling diatribe have to do with drugged or natural BB.
99.9% of the claimed nattys are not - HTH
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 05:56:30 AM
99.9% of the claimed nattys are not - HTH

That's just bloody disgraceful.  >:(



Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on September 03, 2011, 05:58:14 AM
99.9% of the claimed nattys are not - HTH

As Spike once said, testosterone, HGH, insulin, all naturally in our body occuring hormones....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 05:59:25 AM
As Spike once said, testosterone, HGH, insulin, all naturally in our body occuring hormones....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh yes - sorry anything under 2 gram is natural these days  :D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on September 03, 2011, 06:02:10 AM
Oh yes - sorry anything under 2 gram is natural these days  :D

2g of each steroid in the stack.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 06:07:05 AM
It's no wonder anyone with any muscle at all gets the 'He's on gear' accusations if ass clowns on gear are claiming natural status.

What's the point of these clowns claiming natty? Genetic response to gear to shitty to pit oneself against other gear users? Or perhaps just too lazy in the gym so they'll claim natty and it'll account for their lack of muscle.

People still try to convince my fiance, with whom I've lived with for the last 7 years, that I'm on gear. Because anyone with any muscle at all is 'enhanced'. Fuck that shit.


Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 06:15:08 AM
It's no wonder anyone with any muscle at all gets the 'He's on gear' accusations if ass clowns on gear are claiming natural status.

What's the point of these clowns claiming natty? Genetic response to gear to shitty to pit oneself against other gear users? Or perhaps just too lazy in the gym so they'll claim natty and it'll account for their lack of muscle.

People still try to convince my fiance, with whom I've lived with for the last 7 years, that I'm on gear. Because anyone with any muscle at all is 'enhanced'. Fuck that shit.



They are just average guys - drugs give them a look that takes them away from average but not good enough to go far in BB so they claim natural and get sponsers etc who play off this natural status to sell supplements - moody and la cour are two that spring to mind - not natural but claim it though..They dont want the drugs to take all the credit so claim its genetics.. norton is another one..

They no doubt work hard in the gym watch what they eat but are loaded on gear also - liars the lot of them.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 06:21:31 AM
They are just average guys - drugs give them a look that takes them away from average but not good enough to go far in BB so they claim natural and get sponsers etc who play off this natural status to sell supplements - moody and la cour are two that spring to mind - not natural but claim it though..They dont want the drugs to take all the credit so claim its genetics.. norton is another one..

They no doubt work hard in the gym watch what they eat but are loaded on gear also - liars the lot of them.

I agree with you. I see very few, if any at all, natural pros whom I would ever believe to be truly lifetime natural. Key word being lifetime.

Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 03, 2011, 06:22:29 AM
I agree with one of the above posts. The sport of bodybuilding doesn't exist without drugs.  It's a sport based on drugs.  Some will say all elite sports are drugs but that isn't true.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on September 03, 2011, 06:24:47 AM
I agree with one of the above posts. The sport of bodybuilding doesn't exist without drugs.  It's a sport based on drugs.  Some will say all elite sports are drugs but that isn't true.

LOL, name me a sport where you don't need drugs to compete in the top class.


I agree with you. I see very few, if any at all, natural pros whom I would ever believe to be truly lifetime natural. Key word being lifetime.




Another LOL, most "Natural" pros are happy if they get off for a few weeks each year i would say.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 06:28:31 AM
I agree with one of the above posts. The sport of bodybuilding doesn't exist without drugs.  It's a sport based on drugs.  Some will say all elite sports are drugs but that isn't true.

Which sports do you believe aren't inundated with performance enhanced athletes?

NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL (CFL yeah yeah...), surely are.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on September 03, 2011, 06:30:36 AM
Which sports do you believe aren't inundated with performance enhanced athletes?

NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL (CFL yeah yeah...), surely are.

Even in shooting and billiard they use drugs, even in horse racing HUMANS use drugs so that the poor horse doesn't have to dope alone.

There is NO competitive sport in the world where people take no drugs. NOT ONE.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 06:32:49 AM
Golf also - everything uses PED's this is fact - you cannot compete without it
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 06:33:45 AM
Even in shooting and billiard they use drugs, even in horse racing HUMANS use drugs so that the poor horse doesn't have to dope alone.

There is NO competitive sport in the world where people take no drugs. NOT ONE.

I tend to believe that these days.

Drug use is become prevalent in high school sports, so it's an obvious conclusion that drug use will be more commonplace when the stakes, meaning $$$, are much higher.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on September 03, 2011, 06:43:24 AM
Golf also - everything uses PED's this is fact - you cannot compete without it

Deca for the joints, testosterone for recovering (and obviously no one wants to run deca alone).


Shooters use beta-blockers to stay calm, EVERYONE dopes, and always has. The athletes in ancient greece used herbs and other medicine to outperform their opponents.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 03, 2011, 06:44:31 AM
LOL, all elite sports are drugged?  You're a fool in denial because you are a bodybuilding fan.  Yes there are drug users in all sports but not all sports are based on drugs like bodybuilding. Do you really believe all baseball players, football players and sprinters are  using?  I guess the drug tests in the olympics must use really bad technology in their testing.





LOL, name me a sport where you don't need drugs to compete in the top class.



Another LOL, most "Natural" pros are happy if they get off for a few weeks each year i would say.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: che on September 03, 2011, 06:47:19 AM
.

There is NO competitive sport in the world where people take no drugs. NOT ONE.
I disagree
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 06:48:49 AM
LOL, all elite sports are drugged?  You're a fool in denial because you are a bodybuilding fan.  Yes there are drug users in all sports but not all sports are based on drugs like bodybuilding. Do you really believe all baseball players, football players and sprinters are  using?  I guess the drug tests in the olympics must use really bad technology in their testing.





Oh come on - you dont beleive the tests do you ? Chemists are designing new drugs all the time changing structures to get around tests - drugs that mask other drugs get used to - its a game of cat and mouse and to even bring up the olympics and infer its drug free clearly shows you have your head buried in the sand - no disrepect to you but christ guy open your eyes.. PED's win games and events - athletes use them they always have - do you honestly think world records have been broken by huge amounts compared to what they were 60 years ago all because of diet ? ??? really
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 06:50:03 AM
And as I posted toward you in another thread OT - PED'S is not limited to steroids
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 03, 2011, 06:52:00 AM
Which sports do you believe aren't inundated with performance enhanced athletes?

NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL (CFL yeah yeah...), surely are.

I was just reading a ' reader's poll ' in Golf Weekly or Golf Digest and it asked if do you think Pro Golfers are using performance enhancing drugs , just their readership poll said over 60% felt Golf pros were using

I believe every single sport the professionals are using something  from Tennis , to PGA , to Tour De France , be it GH , test , etc

the old adage applies , the biggest problem with steroids is ..................... they work.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: che on September 03, 2011, 06:53:42 AM
' reader's poll '

 ::)
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 07:12:38 AM
If, and that's a big 'if' professional poker is a sport, does that mean Tobey is enhanced?

(http://goodnightsnack.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tobey-maguire-torneo-de-poker.jpg?w=300&h=240)

Notice the bald spot indicating accelerated mpb due to gear use.

Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: WillGrant on September 03, 2011, 07:17:11 AM
If, and that's a big 'if' professional poker is a sport, does that mean Tobey is enhanced?

(http://goodnightsnack.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/tobey-maguire-torneo-de-poker.jpg?w=300&h=240)

Notice the bald spot indicating accelerated mpb due to gear use.


Do they have banned substance lists ? PED could even be classed as caffiene or focusing agents - if they are banned then they are illegal to said "sport" but cards is professional ? hahaha shit how fucked we have become as a race  :-\
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 03, 2011, 07:20:20 AM
::)

I'm not using that as proof of use but just the awareness that performance enhancing drugs have reached everywhere for a reason
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: YngiweRhoads on September 03, 2011, 07:20:51 AM
Do they have banned substance lists ? PED could even be classed as caffiene or focusing agents - if they are banned then they are illegal to said "sport" but cards is professional ? hahaha shit how fucked we have become as a race  :-\

No shit. Things that make you go WTF?  ;D
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: DK II on September 03, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
LOL, all elite sports are drugged?  You're a fool in denial because you are a bodybuilding fan.  Yes there are drug users in all sports but not all sports are based on drugs like bodybuilding. Do you really believe all baseball players, football players and sprinters are  using?  I guess the drug tests in the olympics must use really bad technology in their testing.






FYI, the drug tests are a joke. The only ones that get caught are the idiots, for example they caught the columbian goalkeeper in the WOMEN's soccer world cup, she actually was a last day nomination because the originally elected goalkeeper got injured, so she never thought she would  play the world cup.

A WOMAN, in SOCCER, testing positive for nandrolone.

You are a fool if you believe that ANYONE who earns a lot of money in sports would not use anything to give him an edge, recover faster, heal their joints and so on and so on.
Baseball, Basketball, whatever, they all use steroids and HGH at some point in their careers, 100%.

Check the old GDR files on doping, hell even 13-14 year old GIRLS were given steroids. You're really dumb.
Title: Re: C'mon ,can't we agree , drugged or natural, it's still BODYBUILDING
Post by: MikMaq on September 03, 2011, 07:45:33 PM
Do they have banned substance lists ? PED could even be classed as caffiene or focusing agents - if they are banned then they are illegal to said "sport" but cards is professional ? hahaha shit how fucked we have become as a race  :-\
Ritalin/Birth control are the most common PEDs out there. There's not one thing you can say about rit that isn't true for steroids. People just love to make it a two extremes situation. Either it's all bad or all good. Like anything in life balance is the  key, and making decisions on these sorts of deals based on your emotions is just plain childish.

Anyone that has ever considered being an athlete knows you must make many sacrifices and take on many risk. Not just when it comes to steroids, but also the high probability of injury, mental and emotional stresses, and the fact you passing up a series of financial opportunity all in the pursuit of a dream. To think somehow steroids are ruining sports is the perspective of a bunch of keyboards warriors.